nyrgravey9 wrote:
Again with this debate. Compared to the majority of other residences (in JC and elsewhere), luxury apartment buildings have a doorman, amenities like gyms, tennis courts, movie rooms etc. which some in DTJC/Newport have. Just because they don't have gold plated doorways, etc. doesn't mean it's luxury; there are degrees of it, you know.

Get over yourselves and your insecurities. There are "luxury" buildings in DTJC, so give it a rest. Just ignorant haters.

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http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business ... lacement=2&pgtype=article

Picture of corner of Communipaw and Westside (I think) in today's NYT. One image includes - Cheap Chinese, Cluck-U, Blimpie and 99 cent store. Is this a coincidence in an article concerning a worldwide phenomenon?

I believe there are those type of places on every block in GV and BL.

DTJC offers luxury condo/rental living
Heights offers more space for your dollar
Journal Square offers ethnic food a good investment
Newport offers unobstructed views of Manhattan

What exactly does BL and GV offer besides crime and more crime? I think it's totally right for the make it yours campaign to have most scenes filmed in the orderly neighborhoods of JC

Again with the "luxury" thing. Dude, does the word "luxury" denote that you have air conditioning? You throw that word around so loosely it has no meaning at all.

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http://www.nytimes.com/pages/business ... lacement=2&pgtype=article

Picture of corner of Communipaw and Westside (I think) in today's NYT. One image includes - Cheap Chinese, Cluck-U, Blimpie and 99 cent store. Is this a coincidence in an article concerning a worldwide phenomenon?

I believe there are those type of places on every block in GV and BL.

DTJC offers luxury condo/rental living
Heights offers more space for your dollar
Journal Square offers ethnic food a good investment
Newport offers unobstructed views of Manhattan

What exactly does BL and GV offer besides crime and more crime? I think it's totally right for the make it yours campaign to have most scenes filmed in the orderly neighborhoods of JC

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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
Wegmans could fit in the area north of the tunnel and would get plenty of people from Hoboken that way too.

TJ could fit downtown- it's a much smaller footprint, maybe in the mall when Sears and JC Penny inevitably go under.

I could do without Whole Foods.

The A&P is nice, no crowds, and you can get decent prices if you get sale items. The Shop Rite is god awful and I only deal with it if it's a big sale. The entire place is a madhouse. I've never been so aggravated to go food shopping.

The Pathmark is in desperate need of an overhaul. Imagine what that whole plaza could be with even TJ as an anchor.

Call me crazy, but I much prefer the Pathmark at Old Colony than the ShopRite at Metro Plaza. The Pathmark is less crowded, has a self service check out aisle, and I find that their inventory is pretty decent, including things I would never expect to find in a supermarket catering to a ghetto area. (And, yes, I used that term. Sue me.)

Heck, sometimes I find and buy some nice products I would normally buy at WF, but at a much lower price.

You're crazy. That is probably the only part of DTJC where I feel totally unsafe. Definitely seen drugs dealt in the parking lot. Also have seen expired foods put on the shelves. As much as shoprite is horrible, pathmark is 10x worse.

If that's the only part of JC where you feel unsafe, you are a braver man than I.

Downtown JC

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Wegmans could fit in the area north of the tunnel and would get plenty of people from Hoboken that way too.

TJ could fit downtown- it's a much smaller footprint, maybe in the mall when Sears and JC Penny inevitably go under.

I could do without Whole Foods.

The A&P is nice, no crowds, and you can get decent prices if you get sale items. The Shop Rite is god awful and I only deal with it if it's a big sale. The entire place is a madhouse. I've never been so aggravated to go food shopping.

The Pathmark is in desperate need of an overhaul. Imagine what that whole plaza could be with even TJ as an anchor.

Call me crazy, but I much prefer the Pathmark at Old Colony than the ShopRite at Metro Plaza. The Pathmark is less crowded, has a self service check out aisle, and I find that their inventory is pretty decent, including things I would never expect to find in a supermarket catering to a ghetto area. (And, yes, I used that term. Sue me.)

Heck, sometimes I find and buy some nice products I would normally buy at WF, but at a much lower price.

You're crazy. That is probably the only part of DTJC where I feel totally unsafe. Definitely seen drugs dealt in the parking lot. Also have seen expired foods put on the shelves. As much as shoprite is horrible, pathmark is 10x worse.

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I think its funny how crazy people are about shop rite. I go there pretty often and while its not a fun place to be on weekends its actually doesn't have bad food.

Their fish is actually excellent (assuming you know even a tiny bit about fish and ask what is fresh) and if you get there when the butcher is open (probably before 6 or 7 pm) you can have them custom cut and trim any meat you like (I find they generally cut things too thin likely to keep the price down and I prefer a thick steak/pork chop)

I am lucky enough to shop during the day in the week and its totally fine. There is a decent aisle of "health" food for gluten free/ organic dry goods etc and the while there isn't a ton of organic produce there is a standard selections (apples, pears, grapes, lettuces, potatoes, tomato, broccoli etc)

that being said I would love a Fairway or something just because I like to get a lot of more specialty items (currently I just get them when I am on the road for work or I have them delivered by fresh direct)

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I don't think it's particularly attractive, but I also don't think it's absolutely hideous. From the rendering, it looks actually kind of dated, like a 1980s building you'd see built in Miami.

vindication15 wrote:
I find it very inhumane that a dog or cat is killed because there is no space. The street is not ideal but it's preferable than death!!

We don't even kill convicted criminals because lack of space... You people are cruel

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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...

Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.

This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.

"we" being non crack/meth addicts that live in houses, apts etc and not abandoned shopping carts that have families and pay taxes and are generally decent people and don't want to live with this sort of "filth".

If you think differently, there's something wrong with you.

JC still has remnants of it's drug/gang obsessed past that can be seen on Newark Ave. That's what needs to get cleaned up. Half the places on Newark don't even look like they make a sale a day; are they fronts for something?

Anyways, as Seagull mentioned, let's keep thread to it's original purpose.

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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...

Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.

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You do realize that there are plenty of people in JC like that already.

I'm 28, male, straight, single, a lawyer, my parents live in NJ, love football. Don't shop at any of those stores though and never did. Those are for HS kids anyway. No one wears Abercrombie anymore. And I really hate hipsters and everything they stand for. But they are not "offbeat" whatsoever, basically, they are everything they hate. The bros are true to themselves. They legit like most of things you mention. The hipsters like what the other hipsters tell them too. Skinny jeans are not comfortable nor are they flattering. PBR sucks. Brooklyn is so commercial and UES is now considered more "offbeat".

I basically respect every counter culture, foreign culture (been all over the world), LGBT culture, you name it except hispters...I wish all the hipsters DT would leave downtown and head to Newark already before they ruin that or whatever the next generation of "offbeat" is.

And it would be thrilling to have a "bro" place, maybe it starts to scare them off and it sure is hell better than a dollar store.

I was right there with you until you brought up the Dollar Store. It's fine to have places where young guys can get drunk and scream at TVs (not my thing, never was, but go for it). That doesn't mean you need to crowd out every business that caters to a lower-income clientele that just wants to buy a cheap sweatshirt for their kid. And hipsters are fine too.It's a big town, there's room for everybody.

Wrong, low income is old navy. Dollar stores bring down neighborhood property values and make it less likely for other businesses to come to the area. A prospective restaurant/business will choose to be located next to a "bro" establishment 100% of the time than a dollar store that sells lead toothpaste.

I would go further in saying that if you shop at a dollar store, you hate Jersey City.

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You do realize that there are plenty of people in JC like that already.

I'm 28, male, straight, single, a lawyer, my parents live in NJ, love football. Don't shop at any of those stores though and never did. Those are for HS kids anyway. No one wears Abercrombie anymore. And I really hate hipsters and everything they stand for. But they are not "offbeat" whatsoever, basically, they are everything they hate. The bros are true to themselves. They legit like most of things you mention. The hipsters like what the other hipsters tell them too. Skinny jeans are not comfortable nor are they flattering. PBR sucks. Brooklyn is so commercial and UES is now considered more "offbeat".

I basically respect every counter culture, foreign culture (been all over the world), LGBT culture, you name it except hispters...I wish all the hipsters DT would leave downtown and head to Newark already before they ruin that or whatever the next generation of "offbeat" is.

And it would be thrilling to have a "bro" place, maybe it starts to scare them off and it sure is hell better than a dollar store.