neverleft wrote:
Attention Jersey City old-timers all 236,000 of you. The invading hipster?s all 2,000 (or less) of them have decided to tear down our statues, our symbols of the past. (they have their hip designer sneakers at the ready to whack the statues as they fall) The statues seem to be a little too ugly for their tastes. After all they are HIPsters! Way cooler to paint or plaster posters on the walls of downtown buildings with cool designs. Than have everyone try and figure out what the **** they mean.

Please be aware that they are also trying to take control of YOUR neighborhood bars and restaurants. They do not want you in their territory. They have begun to take away all of our dollar stores. They want the space for their fancy second hand stores (which are really just fancy dollar stores..dah!) and bicycle shops.

It?s interesting that they all want ?the ultimate urban living experience? yet they don?t want to deal with the natives, their past symbols, or their current problems. They want JC to be ?nice? like the burds where they grew up living in mommy and daddy?s split level ranch.

It ain?t happening deal with it! We?re here! We?re old-timers! Get use to it!


For all of you geniuses... what does a bayonet being driven into someone?s back symbolize?


What?s next on your hit list? The Jackie Robinson statue up Journal Square (I don?t like the way he is raising his both arms...seems too threatening to be in front of a transportation center) or the Christopher Columbus statue.. (hey he is holding a cross and just who is he pointing at? Is that his pointer finger or middle finger?).

Or better yet....

Is the Holocaust Memorial: Liberation Monument by Nathan Rappaport in Liberty State Park next on your hit list? It is kind of ?in your face? having a US WWII soldier carrying a poor skin and bones concentration camp survivor in the shadow of the NYC skyline. Gee how gross I think his rib bone is popping out.


LSP: Liberation Monument

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JC old-timers watch group: I am looking for volunteers to guard the Ruby Dollar Store and the K-Mart on Rt 440. I heard that the hipster?s might try and make a move on them. Something about a combined wine school, yoga studio, bike shop complex, where you can sip a glass of homemade wine, workout, while you get your bike fixed.

Jersey City will survive with out without hipsters. If you remember the first hipster..err I mean yuppie invasion was in the late 80?s. That didn?t work out too well because of the crash in the early 90?s. But we survived ... crappy dollar stores and all!

heights wrote:
If someone pays property taxes in one town where they live (in this case NOT Jersey City) and have their children go to a public school in another town such as Jersey City is it legal and if not how can it be addressed ?

jcindy wrote:
Taxpayers? new assessments will kick in at the start of 2013.

FakeGreenDress wrote:
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Althea wrote:

To those asking what is meant by the vault. No one seems to know what it contained or why it is there. It was only just discovered by the construction company and upon inquiries by the Engineering division, there is no access to it from the Dixon Mills building, only from manholes above it.

Huh. So it's not the wiring then? Mysterious...

mwa7368 wrote:

A property bought for around 300k in the past few years, would likely be assessed around 90k and pay taxes somewhere around
4k a year.
A property currently worth 300k that was bought in 1987 for 70k and assessed in 1988 for I'm guessing somewhere around 25k would pay about $1200 in taxes

So both properties worth 300k yet one pays 4k in taxes and the other $1200. How is this fair?!?

Property owners with under-assessed properties should have known the day was coming when you would have to pay your fair share.

Crazy_Chester wrote:
Why do people think abatement means "no taxes"?

heights wrote:
I heard that condos will be taxed twice once for the owner of the unit and then the condo association will be taxed for the building itself just as homes are taxed that are not of condo status. I hope this doesn't affect maintenance fees. Can someone in the mill please verify this rumor.

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brewster wrote:
As far as I can tell from perusing records, taxation is simply a complete mess. A 100 year old Heights 3 family bought in 2004 at $385k is assessed at $119.5k and pays $3386. Next door a new construction condo bought for $455K is assessed at $98k and pays $2777. Can anyone make sense of that? Everyone is saying new construction owners are getting reamed. Not from this example.

Yes I'm sure that there is some cases like you have pointed out. I would venture, however that there are more like what I am about to lay out.

Our taxes for 2009 were $6,625.10. I've also chosen two other properties in our neighborhood that I am familier with. The 2009 taxes on those properties were $7,501.25 and $9,679.61 respectively.

All three properties are likely well over 100 years old. Two of the three are woodframe construction, and the third is a brick Italianate home. The brick home is paying the highest tax bill.

None of this sounds really that out of wack, right?

Here's the thing. Our nearly $7,000 tax bill is for 1000 sq ft. The other two examples are for entire buildings.

Why the disparity?

Our building got converted to condos in 2003. No structural changes. No major renovations beyond some cosmetic fixes. No new heating systems. But simply because it was converted, it became eligible for reassessment by law.

Now I will admit, we've made our actual unit pretty nice, but it's still only 1000 sq ft.

That means property assessment is simply not done on an equitable basis. It is simply not fair.

Yes my taxes are lower than both of the examples I gave. But proportionally, I shouldn't be paying anything close to those who own property that is 3 to 4 times the square footage of mine. If my 1000 sq ft is so damn valuable, just think what their 3, 4, 5 thousand sq ft properties should be worth.

I realize people have lived here a long time. I understand that these places might not have always been the best neighborhoods. But property values are what they are. You get your rewards for living here a long time when you sell at a profit ratio that I, and most of the other relative newcomers, will never begin to come close to.

So I'm on the "bring it on" band wagon. I'm tired of being unfairly assessed.

FDS_JC wrote:
Glad to know I'm no the only one. It is very strange that JC has no good old school Irish pub. Not that I'm a big fan of Hoboken, but they have more than enough there, and have for a long time. We're next door, and there's been plenty of Irish in JC's history, you'd think there'd be a few around.