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Re: A Typical Day in JC's Construction World
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I call bullshit on this. Theres more to this story.


Why would the OP post a bullshit story apparently using his real name, and after posting his business name and phone # in his 1st post? Give him a call and ask.

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Sure it's true. I lived in front of a construction site for 3 yrs downtown & we used to watch the cops working or should I say talking on there phones, eating and always arriving late & leaving early. Even the construction workers would tell us stories & were always complaining about it being a city scam.

Posted on: 2011/7/21 16:05
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I call bullshit on this. Theres more to this story.

Posted on: 2011/7/21 15:34
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This is extortion plain and simple.

I like the post above, pay him with a bag of pennies. Money is money. FVCK HIM and this ridiculous

Posted on: 2011/7/20 22:52
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The rates were set up by the city council members by city ordinance, 3-85.1, not by the union. There are no provisions for overtime rates.

I'm sure if you're a real vendor as you claim, they gave you a copy of the ordinance. Post your invoice and prove it.

Posted on: 2011/7/20 19:41
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Does the on duty police office have to be a Jersey City cop? Since the officers are off duty, couldn't you just hire some off duty officer with authority in Jersey City -- such as State Police, Rutgers University Police, Port Authority Police, or Hudson County Sheriffs?

Posted on: 2011/7/20 19:37
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oh how I wish you'd said, "sure. ask him to meet me at the corner at noon," then showed up two hours later with his money....in nickles.

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Bring it up to Fulop I could see him working to fight this.

Posted on: 2011/7/20 18:47
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Ring, ring??

Me: Hello?

Jersey City Police Department: Hi Ben, this is Officer X from the Police Department. I am calling about the officer you had at your job site for your delivery yesterday.

Me: YES?..

JCPD: You didn?t pay him enough. You owe us another $40

Me: Officer, I paid him $160 which is a 4 hour rate (Jersey City has a 4 Hour Minimum), although he was only here for a quick 15 minute delivery. I didn?t even complain that he was 2 hours late?He was supposed to be here at 12. So, I don?t understand, how did I not pay him enough?

JCPD: Well, they get Time and Half after 4:00PM. I understand that he was late but he technically started at 2PM. So, from 2-4 he gets $80, and from 4-6 another $120.

Me: Come again...?

JCPD: I know he should have been there at 12, but he was late. It still doesn?t change the fact that he started when he did, which is 2PM. AS you know, according to the Union Rules, we have a 4 Hour minimum, so he technically worked till 6PM. And after 4PM, they get time and half?.

Me: Are you listening to yourself?

JCPD: haha. I don?t make up the rules Ben.

Me: I understand that, but 1) you want me to pay for a 4 hour service, which was only 15 minutes; 2) you also want me to pay time and half for a time the officer had already left; 3) and ignore that the officer should have been there at 12 instead of 2pm?

JCPD: Yes

Me: and you wonder why investors refuse to do business in this city? Why last year, you came close to laying off 80 Officers because of budget cuts?

JCPD: I know it sounds ridiculous.
Wouldn't you be able to argue that since he was supposed to be there at 12PM, that's when he started, and he worked 12PM - 4PM, meaning there is no overtime?


Ridiculous shit though. #OOPS# these guys.

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Awesome. I love when you asked "Are you listening to yourself?"

And sad.

Posted on: 2011/7/20 17:11
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You have to pay them because they are off duty. I don't have a problem paying. I just don't find fair when it reaches this absurd....
Ofcourse a lot of builders get deliveries without getting a cop but if they get caught, you get multiple tickets close to 580. This is why major supply houses won't deliver to JC unless you have an officer present.
So, you either pay $200 for a 15min drop off or risk getting tickets up to 580

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The Cop is not delivering anything. You have to get an off duty cop when you get deliveies to a job site.

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It's part of the embedded corruption that's in all the municipal services of Jersey City.
I'm not sure which is worse the fire dept. or the police dept. or the building dept.

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can anyone fill me in what the cop is delivering. never heard of this.

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I don't understand why we need to pay cops for deliveries and road work.

New York City and most other places manage just fine without cops for these tasks.

Why should we have to pay this extortion?


I think that every time I pass a site in NYC & elsewhere with flaggers instead of cops. The only argument for it is if you actually have to close a block down. And even then, I've seen the MUA do it without cops.

Pferm, the cop is acting as an overpaid traffic flagger while construction supplies are delivered to a jobsite. Most flaggers I've seen are actually doing their jobs, while most of the cops just stand there playing with their phones or chatting.

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I don't understand why we need to pay cops for deliveries and road work.

New York City and most other places manage just fine without cops for these tasks.

Why should we have to pay this extortion?

Posted on: 2011/7/20 16:03
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I paid, Because I hire a lot of officers for deliveries. I am all in favor of having officers for deliveries at jobsites. But a 15 min delivery doesn't warrant a 200 price.

Posted on: 2011/7/20 15:18
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I'm just curious did you, or are you going to pay it?

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The law requiring cops for these things must be changed.

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Ring, ring??

Me: Hello?

Jersey City Police Department: Hi Ben, this is Officer X from the Police Department. I am calling about the officer you had at your job site for your delivery yesterday.

Me: YES?..

JCPD: You didn?t pay him enough. You owe us another $40

Me: Officer, I paid him $160 which is a 4 hour rate (Jersey City has a 4 Hour Minimum), although he was only here for a quick 15 minute delivery. I didn?t even complain that he was 2 hours late?He was supposed to be here at 12. So, I don?t understand, how did I not pay him enough?

JCPD: Well, they get Time and Half after 4:00PM. I understand that he was late but he technically started at 2PM. So, from 2-4 he gets $80, and from 4-6 another $120.

Me: Come again...?

JCPD: I know he should have been there at 12, but he was late. It still doesn?t change the fact that he started when he did, which is 2PM. AS you know, according to the Union Rules, we have a 4 Hour minimum, so he technically worked till 6PM. And after 4PM, they get time and half?.

Me: Are you listening to yourself?

JCPD: haha. I don?t make up the rules Ben.

Me: I understand that, but 1) you want me to pay for a 4 hour service, which was only 15 minutes; 2) you also want me to pay time and half for a time the officer had already left; 3) and ignore that the officer should have been there at 12 instead of 2pm?

JCPD: Yes

Me: and you wonder why investors refuse to do business in this city? Why last year, you came close to laying off 80 Officers because of budget cuts?

JCPD: I know it sounds ridiculous.

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