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Re: This old house may be the greener one - renovating almost always better for the environment
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A lot of "greenism" is motivated not by a rational understanding of environmental impacts but by a desire to publicly proclaim one's self-righteousness. A new house with solar panels, etc. or a new Prius does this but insulating an old house or continuing to drive an older but efficient car (or not owning a car) does not. That Al Gore lives in multiple giant houses and flies around everywhere, thereby having an immense carbon footprint while making the money to support his wasteful lifestyle from preaching environmentalism, is a good example of this.

It was nice to hear some sanity on this subject from NPR this morning. Hopefully someone will compare the environmental impact of buying a new hybrid vs. keeping a car that gets a few less mpg in the city and/or the impact of destroying existing vehicles (and occasioning all the impact of building a new car) via "cash for clunkers".


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WADHAMS: The greenest building is the one that's already built.

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This old house may be the greener one

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Ironically, it seems that leading an environmentally friendly lifestyle is equated with getting rid of all your old stuff and starting fresh. Marketplace's Eve Troeh reports on how to be really green when it comes to your new home.

KAI RYSSDAL: In Chicago, Ill. today the talk is of kitchen countertops made from recycled soda bottles and insulation made out of old blue jeans. The Green Building conference started this morning -- the newest construction techniques and design methods that'll help save the planet. But there's a school of thought out there that, for buildings at least, new isn't as green as old is.

EVE TROEH: The TV show "World's Greenest Homes" has the air of "The Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous."

"THE WORLD'S GREENEST HOMES": This 3,200-square foot weekender functions entirely on its own energy, thanks to solar power, a wind turbine and rain collection.

And that's how most people visualize a green building. Big, angular, new and armed with the latest energy technology. But some argue that's the wrong idea. Real green building looks more like this:

BOB VILLA: Hi, I'm Bob Vila and welcome to "This Old House." I've got something to show ya...

Historic preservationists say renovating an old building is almost always better for the environment than framing up a new one. You don't add to sprawl by taking up more land. And, you don't waste all the energy and resources, like wood and metal, already in existing buildings. But people don't often equate old buildings with "going green."

Take Blenda Wright's historic bungalow in Claremont, Calif.

BLENDA WRIGHT: Hello, come on in.

TROEH: Thanks, and this is Greene and Greene Darling home, is that right?

WRIGHT: The Greene and Greene Darling Wright home, it's been here since 1903.

To be clear, this Greene and Greene has no relation to today's concept of going green. At the turn of the 20th century, brothers and architects Charles and Henry Greene launched the Arts and Crafts movement. When the Wrights bought the house, they loved its built-in fixtures and old-growth wood beams -- but not the way it leaked air.

TROEH: Were you afraid that, "I'm gonna live in this drafty old house.


Wright laughs

They hired designer Bill Baldwin to "green" the house without compromising the Greene and Greene aesthetic.

BILL BALDWIN: They thought about harmony and balance and detail.

He combined that style with technology to make this the first historic home to earn a green rating from the state of California. There's no rain-collecting roof or solar panels -- that wouldn't look authentic. And besides, Baldwin aimed to prove that a "green" home doesn't have to look futuristic. He hid high-tech insulation behind the vintage wainscoting.

BALDWIN: We did an inch of close-cell foam to seal it, then we...

And the warm glow from the stained glass lighting fixtures?

BALDWIN: It's a flourescent light, so highly energy efficient, but until you look under the shade, you wouldn't know.

The house earned its credentials, imperceptibly.

BALDWIN: The thing I'm most proud of is that you can't tell.

But that green rating important, says Scot Horst. He runs the most popular system for measuring the environmental impact of buildings. It's called LEED.

SCOT HORST: Existing buildings that become LEED buildings also have a higher value, and value tends to incentivize buildings to stay around.

Meaning, they're less likely to be torn down. He says if you re-use a building, you do get points toward LEED certification. But it's a small percentage of the total points needed, says Emily Wadhams at the National Trust for Historic Preservation.

EMILY WADHAMS: We feel it sends a signal to the marketplace that reusing a building simply isn't that valuable or important.

She says it will always be easier to build in energy efficiency from scratch. But if renovation got more credit from the get-go, more people would do it. And the definition of "green building" might change from new, high-tech weekend homes to something like this...

WADHAMS: The greenest building is the one that's already built.

In Los Angeles, I'm Eve Troeh for Marketplace.

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