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Re: We can thank our Mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City
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No wonder why we can't get crime under control...Great use of the Police Force Healy and out tax dollars....

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At least the honking tour could report a crime if they saw one. Almost two-thirds of our police force are brass. That means that most of them are desk jockeys or only come out for special circumstances. Healy blatantly breaks the law while he is present at the path this afternoon with a damn campaign van of his idling while spewing out its message.. I do not care how small the infraction is, but breaking any law as the mayor is corrupt and he should look back at himself.

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I was out of town this weekend, who was on the honking tour?

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So thats where all the rain has been coming from the last week? Well, he lost my vote! Healy: Soft on rain.

Lets vote in the guy who went on a honking tour of JC on Saturday. What a great way to get everyone to like you.

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The Healy Team:

Pissing on your leg and telling you it's raining.

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The best way to point that out to the next administration is to send this administration packing!

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Elvis, you have no idea how I wish I was wrong...Jersey City does have a real chance to be a great city. Hell I know there are no perfect politicians...but yo got to admit, this administration sure does not give the feeling they have the best interest of the Citizens of Jersey City at hand. I have spent time going to the debates of the Mayor and Councilman, there are a few of them that seem much more decent than the elected officials we have currently in office.

No matter what, we need a change, though does not look all that likely. So then the only other thing to do will be for the citizens of Jersey City to rise up and hold whomever becomes the next administration accountable.

This is the first time in many years that the people of Jersey City really seem to be fed up and are not totally buying into things such as crime is down and the high tax issue. These were campaign promises made the last time..What's the saying fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

Once the next administration is in, we the people of Jersey City must make sure we are heard and voice the same we we are while they are in office...not just at election time...

We will need the administration work for us and I believe we can accomplish this by putting the administration on notice that no more will we accept business as usual from them. They either do a good job otherwise we point them out an make sure they become part of the news on a regular basis and point out there poor performance in the newspapers, on boards such as these and on local news stations. We cannot not let them hide anymore...Time to pressure our elected officals into doing a good job.

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And what's with all the rain lately? Healy has been soft on rain for too long. We need change! We need a Mayor who will promise us sunny days and deliver.

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Please tell me this is a joke. As I read the full page ad it says:
Putting more cops on the beat. Where? I don't see any cops on the beat on Central Ave, Palisades or Summit Ave up the Heights..In fact go by the Police Station on Central Ave, not only are there no Cops on the beat, there are between 10-15 patrol cars parked in front of the station, shouldn't they be out patrolling.

Redeveloping Beyond the Waterfront. Where? Central Ave a main avenue up the Heights has not had much redevelopment if any in years, most of the nice stores moved out. Unless they mean in the ad the 99 cent stores, there are a lot of them...Wow some redevelopment.

We have much bad element up the heights, Gangs roaming around, Drugs being sold...Years ago we did not have these problems up the Heights, it was one of, if not the best place to live in Jersey City, and to think Healy, Gaughan, DeGise are from the Heights....Some team they make...

How about other sections of Jersey City, Ward F for instance...They have practically been ignored under the Healy Administration.


Healy Administration, Weak on Crime. A joke as our elected officials. This Administration, our leaders to represent us do not look out for the citizens of Jersey City's public interest. It will just more of the same if they are elected again.

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Chances per capita per 1000 of becoming Murder victim JC is .10% as opposed to NYC .08%.. Higher by .02% in JC.

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Crime in Jersey City by Year according to city-data.com First and Last year on their graph. Aside from flucuating murder numbers, everything else has been consistently going down.

**edit, that was a mess.


Actually crime went up for 2008, here are the numbers added up from the JCPD website compared to last years total. Keep in mind they don't edit there site once they post so it can be higher then what they gave. For example the murders missing from there site. ( I gave the real murder count anyway)

2008
Murder-27 Rape-57 Robbery-1256 Aggravated Assault-954 Burglary-1868 Larceny-4423 Auto Theft-1160 Arson-82 Overall Crime Index-9822



Murder-20 Rape-47 Robbery-1248 Aggravated Assault-1106 Burglary-1504 Larceny-4082 Auto Theft-1218 Arson-100 Overall Crime Index-9325

So that means Murder is up 7, Rape up 10, Robbery up 8, Aggravated Assault down 152, Burglary up 364, Larceny up 341, Auto theft down 58, and Arson down 18. Overall crime is up by almost 500 crimes.


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This city is safer than 16% of the cities in the US.
city Annual Crimes
VIOLENT PROPERTY TOTAL
2,894 8,271 11,165
annual crimes per 1,000 residents
12.06 34.45 46.51




Violent Crime Comparison per 1,000 residentsNATIONAL MEDIAN 4.7 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM
in Jersey City
1 in 83
in New Jersey
1 in 282
12.06 3.55
Jersey City New Jersey
Jersey City violent crimes Population: 240,055 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT
REPORTED TOTAL 23 71 1,418 1,382
RATE PER 1,000 0.10 0.30 5.91 5.76
United States violent crimes Population: 296,410,404 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT
REPORTED TOTAL 16,692 93,934 417,122 862,947
RATE PER 1,000 0.06 0.32 1.41 2.91
Property Crime Rate Comparison per 1,000 residentsNATIONAL MEDIAN 34.3 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM
in Jersey City
1 in 29
in New Jersey
1 in 43
34.45 23.33
Jersey City New Jersey
Jersey City property crimes Population: 240,055 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT
REPORTED TOTAL 2,044 4,445 1,728
RATE PER 1,000 8.52 18.52 7.20
United States property crimes Population: 296,410,404 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT
REPORTED TOTAL 2,154,126 6,776,807 1,235,226
RATE PER 1,000 7.27 22.86 4.17
Crimes Per Square Mile 671 61
Jersey City New Jersey
NATIONAL MEDIAN 49.6


About Jersey City crime rates
The crime rate in Jersey City is considerably higher than the national average across all communities in America from the largest to the smallest, although at 47 crimes per one thousand residents, it is not among the communities with the very highest crime rate. The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Jersey City is 1 in 22. Based on FBI crime data, Jersey City is not one of the safest communities in America. Relative to New Jersey, Jersey City has a crime rate that is higher than 90% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes.

However, compared to other communities of similar population size, Jersey City has a crime rate that is noticeably lower than the average. This means that for comparably sized cities all across America, Jersey City is actually safer than most according to NeighborhoodScout's exclusive analysis of FBI crime data.

The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined.

Now let us turn to take a look at how Jersey City does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in Jersey City.

For Jersey City, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout's analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in Jersey City is one in 83.

Significantly, based on the number of murders reported by the FBI and the number of residents living in the city, NeighborhoodScout's analysis shows that Jersey City experiences one of the higher murder rates in the nation when compared with cities and towns for all sizes of population, from the largest to the smallest.

NeighborhoodScout's analysis also reveals that Jersey City's rate for property crime is 34 per one thousand population. This makes Jersey City a place where there is an above average chance of becoming a victim of a property crime, when compared to all other communities in America of all population sizes. Property crimes are motor vehicle theft, arson, larceny, and burglary. Your chance of becoming a victim of any of these crimes in Jersey City is one in 29.

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This city is safer than 33% of the cities in the US.

city Annual Crimes

VIOLENT PROPERTY TOTAL
12,217 34,523 46,740
annual crimes per 1,000 residents
7.75 21.90 29.65





Violent Crime Comparison per 1,000 residents
NATIONAL MEDIAN
4.7
MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM
in New York
1 in 129
in New York
1 in 224
7.75
4.46

New York New York
New York violent crimes
Population: 1,537,195 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT
REPORTED TOTAL 125 313 5,344 6,435
RATE PER 1,000 0.08 0.20 3.39 4.08
United States violent crimes
Population: 296,410,404 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT
REPORTED TOTAL 16,692 93,934 417,122 862,947
RATE PER 1,000 0.06 0.32 1.41 2.91

Property Crime Rate Comparison per 1,000 residents
NATIONAL MEDIAN
34.3
MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM
in New York
1 in 46
in New York
1 in 47
21.9
21.09

New York New York
New York property crimes
Population: 1,537,195 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT
REPORTED TOTAL 5,252 25,032 4,238
RATE PER 1,000 3.33 15.88 2.69
United States property crimes
Population: 296,410,404 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT
REPORTED TOTAL 2,154,126 6,776,807 1,235,226
RATE PER 1,000 7.27 22.86 4.17

Crimes Per Square Mile
1647
175

New York New York

NATIONAL MEDIAN
49.6



About New York crime rates
New York has an overall crime rate of 30 per 1,000 residents, making the crime rate here near the average for all cities and towns of all sizes in America. According to our analysis of FBI crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of crime in New York is 1 in 34. How does New York fare compared to other communities in New York of all population sizes? New York's crime rate is lower than approximately 20% of New York communities.

However, NeighborhoodScout analyzed all cities and towns in America with a similar population size to New York, and we found that the crime rate in New York is one of the lowest in the nation for its size. This means New York is one of the safest places in America in which to live for its size, a very important finding.

The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined.

Now let us turn to take a look at how New York does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in New York.

For New York, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout's analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in New York is one in 129.

Moreover, the rate of property crime in New York ? burglary, larceny ($50 or more), grand theft auto, and arson ? is 22 per 1,000 residents. This is about average for all cities and towns in America of all population sizes.

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As you can see from the above statistics provided by a neutral source it is safer to be living in NYC than to be liviing in JC. Per capita per 1000 residents JC violent crime rate of 12.06% vs NYC violent crime rte of 7.75%. Non Violent crime rate JC 34.45% vs NYC 21.9%. Total crime rate JC 46.51% vs NYC 29.65%. Jersey City is safer than 16% of cities while NYC is listed as 33% safer on a scale of 1-100 with 100 being the safest.

In 1997 Mayor Healy took out a full page ad and sent out identical mailers lambasting Bret Schundler because Jersey Citys Crime rate was higher than New York Citys. It said that Schundler kept putting out phony crime statistics and that based on the above Schundler should be replace by Healy. Well guess what Mayor Healy. Things have come full circle and crime in JC is still higher than in NYC. Based on your own reasoning and news paper ads shouldn't you be replaced? Isn't whats good for the goose good for the gander? This is like deja vu all over again!

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Crime in Jersey City by Year according to city-data.com First and Last year on their graph. Aside from flucuating murder numbers, everything else has been consistently going down.

**edit, that was a mess.


Actually crime went up for 2008, here are the numbers added up from the JCPD website compared to last years total. Keep in mind they don't edit there site once they post so it can be higher then what they gave. For example the murders missing from there site. ( I gave the real murder count anyway)

2008
Murder-27 Rape-57 Robbery-1256 Aggravated Assault-954 Burglary-1868 Larceny-4423 Auto Theft-1160 Arson-82 Overall Crime Index-9822

2007
Murder-20 Rape-47 Robbery-1248 Aggravated Assault-1106 Burglary-1504 Larceny-4082 Auto Theft-1218 Arson-100 Overall Crime Index-9325

So that means Murder is up 7, Rape up 10, Robbery up 8, Aggravated Assault down 152, Burglary up 364, Larceny up 341, Auto theft down 58, and Arson down 18. Overall crime is up by almost 500 crimes.

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I think we should look into the mirror for the state of crime in JC - The majority of us voted for Healy as Mayor.

By the way, which candidate for Mayor has the strongest view and solutions to the crime problems we are facing, which will on get worse as more people lose their jobs, evicted and can't support their families?

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There are two failures of this administration at work here. On one hand there is the public safety issue, and the second is the lack of a property tax revaluation. They are inextricably linked.

As I said previously and have been criticized for, the downtown needs an improved perception of safety, and needs it more than the rest of the city. The wealth is downtown. The redevelopment of the city will spread from the downtown. If the perception downtown is an increase in crime, many people will leave and fewer people will move here in the future. The flight of wealth from urban centers over the last forty years was largely due to increasing crime, and look where that got the city. An abandoned waterfront, abandoned houses, empty storefronts. You may not like the gentrification, but consider the alternative before you begin to criticize all the wealthy young people who you secretly envy.

I say property tax revaluation is linked directly to this issue because of the faster rate of appreciation downtown then elsewhere in the city. There is no arguing that all of the property in the city is worth more now than it was twenty years ago. But the downtown real estate values increased much faster than most other neighborhoods. As a result of that, after a revaluation, even after reducing the rate of taxation, the downtown would begin paying a larger share of the overall tax revenue in the city. The downtown's increased share of tax revenue would fund services throughout the city, and in my mind at least, justify an improvement in policing downtown to maintain those values.

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It is much more than just thanking our mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City,it is also the people he has surrounded himself with.I am slow to realizing this but we need to vote him and those he surrounds himself with out of office come next election whenever that is,but I intend to find out.

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Thank you, Super_Furry. I couldn't have said that any better myself. I am a Non-Ward E homeowner, paying taxes, spending a lot of money in Jersey City, using contractors who are residents to restore my home, I vote, I am concerned about crime and quality of life issues throughout the entire city, I am law-abiding, I care about my neighborhood and so on. Why should I accept lower safety standards? I've mentioned before on this list that until we all see each other as one, there will be no positive growth.

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That said, there is a benefit to maintaining higher safety standards downtown; the gentrification downtown benefits the entirety of the city, and more crime downtown, the more likely gentrification ...


ALL residents in JC deserve high safety standards. Ward E (Downtown) doesn't deserve disproportionate resources for policing. Ianmac, is there something wrong with you?

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That said, there is a benefit to maintaining higher safety standards downtown; the gentrification downtown benefits the entirety of the city, and more crime downtown, the more likely gentrification ...


ALL residents in JC deserve high safety standards. Ward E (Downtown) doesn't deserve disproportionate resources for policing. Ianmac, is there something wrong with you?

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Where is the accountability? We need to DEMAND accountability. As of late it feels like the wild wild west. They need to crack down Giuliani style.

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That's a little disturbing to me. I don't live downtown. So, are you saying the wealthy crowd should have more police protection because now there are boutiques and places where coffee is served by a barrista? They same place where developers get tax abatements so the rest of people who pay ordinary property taxes have to make up the slack? I vote and pay taxes too. Too bad most of the time the choice of who to vote for turns out too be grim.

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I'm not saying it isn't selfish, but as a resident and voter, I'm concerned about where I live. As a public policy matter, I understand that say Detroit, MI has a crime problem, but since I'm not going to go to Detroit or live there, I don't really care one way or another if Detroit does or doesn't do anything about crime.

That said, there is a benefit to maintaining higher safety standards downtown; the gentrification downtown benefits the entirety of the city, and more crime downtown, the more likely gentrification will begin to reverse itself. The downtown gentrification creates jobs and generates revenue for the city. Moreover, the city should have instituted a tax revaluation, which would have meant the downtown would contribute even more money to the city's coffers.

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ianmac47, Isn't that somewhat selfish that all you care about is downtown.

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SLyng, since you're good wid da numbers, have a crack at this nut. Newark has about 50% more cops than we do with a similar population, the cops say it's because the airport provides a shot of additional tax revenue. I find it hard to believe the airport is a better cash cow than our Downtown Waterfront. Have we really given away that much? I thought the PILOTS actually brought the city more cash in the short run.


You forgot that Newark has several different businesses that bring in tax revenue. Airport, oil refineries, ports, and a federal courthouse. It has a lot of things that could make it a great place but the problem is it's a large part of it's people just don't give damn about that city or society. Much of the violence that happens around here, ESPECIALLY DTJC is perpetrated by people from Newark.

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Here are some crime stats to support the rise in crime.

2008
Murder-27 Rape-57 Robbery-1256 Aggravated Assault-954 Burglary-1868 Larceny-4423 Auto Theft-1160 Arson-82 Overall Crime Index-9822

2007
Murder-20 Rape-47 Robbery-1248 Aggravated Assault-1106 Burglary-1504 Larceny-4082 Auto Theft-1218 Arson-100 Overall Crime Index-9325

So that means Murder is up 7, Rape up 10, Robbery up 8, Aggravated Assault down 152, Burglary up 364, Larceny up 341, Auto theft down 58, and Arson down 18. Overall crime is up by almost 500 crimes.


I haven't seen the 2008 numbers, but i'll take your word for it that the ones you posted above are correct. It might be useful to look at those numbers with some perspective rather than just looking at 2years in a vacuum:


The number of murders between 2000 and 2007 respectively were: 17, 25, 21, 24, 23, 38, 22, and 20. So the 27 that you claim was this year's number doesn't seem too far off from what we've experienced the last 8 years. [On a side-note, I'm not sure how you can blame the mayor for people getting murdered. If someone wants to murder someone they are going to do it.] Also, what is the population of Jersey city, was it larger or smaller than 2007 - i.e. if there are more people, (all else being equal) you would expect more murders. (i'm not trying to be morbid here, just stating a fact, a town of 100 people should have less murders than a town of 250,000 all else being equal).

Lets look at the Rape #s. Again from 2000-2007: 74, 89, 86, 98, 71, 43, 60, and 47 (for 2008). Healy took over after the 98 statistic.

As for Robbery, those numbers are 1237, 1301, 1381, 1416, 1418, 1642, 1553, and 1248. So this stat of 1256 for 2008 is basically exactly the same as the prior year.

Assaults were 1,438 - 1,419 - 1,389 - 1,382 - 1,413 - 1,255 - 1,106 - 954. So after peaking in 2005, Assault has gone down every year Healy has been in office.

Burglary: 2350, 2285, 2191, 2044, 2216, 1670, 1504, 1868.
Tough Economy causing more break-ins? I won't sugarcoat this one, looks like an ugly jump there.

Theft was up vs. 2007 but lower versus 2006, 2005, etc

Auto Theft, With the exception of 2005 has gone down every single year since the year 2000. I'm sick of typing out all these numbers, so look them up yourself...

But again what does the mayor have to do with my ability or desire to commit a crime? If I want to burn down a house or kill someone, I would probably do it whether or not Lou Manzo, Jeremiah Healy, or Fat-Ass-Bike were the mayor...

Also, if your cure for the uptick in crime is more police officers - how do you plan on paying for them given that tax receipts most likely will be down versus last year? I'm just curious.


I couldn't really care less if the citywide numbers are up or down. All I'm interested is the downtown statistics, and more importantly, my PERCEPTION of safety in the downtown. My perception is that there should be more police in the downtown, and that crime is up. Of course Healy can win without carrying the downtown, so he probably doesn't care.

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SLyng, since you're good wid da numbers, have a crack at this nut. Newark has about 50% more cops than we do with a similar population, the cops say it's because the airport provides a shot of additional tax revenue. I find it hard to believe the airport is a better cash cow than our Downtown Waterfront. Have we really given away that much? I thought the PILOTS actually brought the city more cash in the short run.

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Here are some crime stats to support the rise in crime.

2008
Murder-27 Rape-57 Robbery-1256 Aggravated Assault-954 Burglary-1868 Larceny-4423 Auto Theft-1160 Arson-82 Overall Crime Index-9822

2007
Murder-20 Rape-47 Robbery-1248 Aggravated Assault-1106 Burglary-1504 Larceny-4082 Auto Theft-1218 Arson-100 Overall Crime Index-9325

So that means Murder is up 7, Rape up 10, Robbery up 8, Aggravated Assault down 152, Burglary up 364, Larceny up 341, Auto theft down 58, and Arson down 18. Overall crime is up by almost 500 crimes.


I haven't seen the 2008 numbers, but i'll take your word for it that the ones you posted above are correct. It might be useful to look at those numbers with some perspective rather than just looking at 2years in a vacuum:


The number of murders between 2000 and 2007 respectively were: 17, 25, 21, 24, 23, 38, 22, and 20. So the 27 that you claim was this year's number doesn't seem too far off from what we've experienced the last 8 years. [On a side-note, I'm not sure how you can blame the mayor for people getting murdered. If someone wants to murder someone they are going to do it.] Also, what is the population of Jersey city, was it larger or smaller than 2007 - i.e. if there are more people, (all else being equal) you would expect more murders. (i'm not trying to be morbid here, just stating a fact, a town of 100 people should have less murders than a town of 250,000 all else being equal).

Lets look at the Rape #s. Again from 2000-2007: 74, 89, 86, 98, 71, 43, 60, and 47 (for 2008). Healy took over after the 98 statistic.

As for Robbery, those numbers are 1237, 1301, 1381, 1416, 1418, 1642, 1553, and 1248. So this stat of 1256 for 2008 is basically exactly the same as the prior year.

Assaults were 1,438 - 1,419 - 1,389 - 1,382 - 1,413 - 1,255 - 1,106 - 954. So after peaking in 2005, Assault has gone down every year Healy has been in office.

Burglary: 2350, 2285, 2191, 2044, 2216, 1670, 1504, 1868.
Tough Economy causing more break-ins? I won't sugarcoat this one, looks like an ugly jump there.

Theft was up vs. 2007 but lower versus 2006, 2005, etc

Auto Theft, With the exception of 2005 has gone down every single year since the year 2000. I'm sick of typing out all these numbers, so look them up yourself...

But again what does the mayor have to do with my ability or desire to commit a crime? If I want to burn down a house or kill someone, I would probably do it whether or not Lou Manzo, Jeremiah Healy, or Fat-Ass-Bike were the mayor...

Also, if your cure for the uptick in crime is more police officers - how do you plan on paying for them given that tax receipts most likely will be down versus last year? I'm just curious.

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Could the infusion of upper middle class into JC be behind the crime drops?


I think it has some affect but not as much as you think. When many of the Downtown residents that were priced out during the gentrification of there neighborhood the majority moved to the Heights. Most of the families were good and hard working but the criminals and gang members moved up there as well. I think that is a part of the reason crime went up in the Heights over the years. Downtown became safer by pricing out the people that lived there while the Heights became more dangerous as most of them moved up there to more affordable housing. This city is just moving all the poor and middle class in the same neighborhoods instead of trying to keep them balanced. Most of the crime statistic decline is a national decline and has little to do with the upper middle class moving here. The violence hasnt had as much of a decline though and there are more gangs now then the 90s had.

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Healy must be delusional, we have more crime, pay higher taxes, streets are filthier, there are more gangs in Jersey City than ever. Just look at the Central Ave district for example, I lived up the heights for over 20 years, we had nice stores, it was place people could shop, grab a bite to eat. In the evening you have to watch your back, gangs, drugs being sold. The poor senior citizens they don't stand a chance if they want to take a walk in the evening, nice change Healy. Gaughan, has been councilman 16 years in Ward D, great job guys in turning Central Avenue in the opposite direction. Does Gaughan still live in Jersey City, seems he spends more time in Spring Lake, maybe he should run for councilman down the shore. I know there are other areas in Jersey City that have not changed for the best either, I use Central Ave and should mention all of the Heights as an example because it was at one time one of, if not the best section of Jersey City to live, not anymore. So there is the change we can see.

Here are some crime stats to support the rise in crime.

2008
Murder-27 Rape-57 Robbery-1256 Aggravated Assault-954 Burglary-1868 Larceny-4423 Auto Theft-1160 Arson-82 Overall Crime Index-9822

2007
Murder-20 Rape-47 Robbery-1248 Aggravated Assault-1106 Burglary-1504 Larceny-4082 Auto Theft-1218 Arson-100 Overall Crime Index-9325

So that means Murder is up 7, Rape up 10, Robbery up 8, Aggravated Assault down 152, Burglary up 364, Larceny up 341, Auto theft down 58, and Arson down 18. Overall crime is up by almost 500 crimes.


Right on JRL, I to grew up in the heights and watched the demise of this section of JC.Growing up,there were Fur shops, fine clothing stores,quality furniture stores, jewlers, etc, etc,obvious that Cityhall is to blame for all if this, since they turned their backs on everyone in the heights...

what a shame!

My sentiments exactly, when I moved to New Jersey for the first time 5 years ago, I settled in Jersey City. I heard a lot about the glory days of the heights and that it is an area on the rebound. I thought it would be a good sound investment but I am not really seeing that. I think that 5 years is long enough to wait, with no real improvement other than a few paved streets. Given the recent ?activity? on my street, there are now 4 houses up for sale. I am contemplating making ours the 5th house. The commute to work in the city is great for my husband and my reverse commute to a city in Union County is great most days but we don?t have to put up with this. The Heights has a lot of potential but I don?t want to jeopardize my safety or my sons education hoping that something will happen. I don?t like the odds of 400 applications for 22 slots to get in LCCS. The public school right next to us performs average at the state level. The unfortunate part of our decision is that wherever we move is going to complicate our lives as we own several rental properties. There is so much potential in Jersey City but I have lost my patience. It was great when we were DINK?s but not anymore. If we can divest we will. Wish us well.

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I agree most of the crime is going down over the years but I think people are more concerned with the murders, robberies and shootings/stabbings that have stayed steady and have not seen as much of a decline over the years as everything else has. I rather have something stolen from me then be robbed by a violent stick up boy. In Jersey City you have a higher chance of being robbed then in Newark, Paterson or Elizabeth.

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Really, on average every day 3 cars get stolen!?


Considering Jersey City was once the car theft capitol of the country and was one of the top 10 for highest car theft rates for years, this statistic is only a fraction of what it once was. I remember an old article over 10 years ago that said 1 in 38 or 48 cars in the city were reported stolen back then. Downtown used to be the capitol within the the capitol for auto thefts at that time. The amount of stolen cars has dropped by a lot over the years.

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