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A second Jersey City councilman to abstain on ambulance contract vote

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on October 28, 2014 at 12:50 PM

A second Jersey City councilman will abstain from voting on awarding the city's ambulance contract, citing his new job with one of the two bidders.

Councilman-at-large Daniel Rivera started working for Jersey City Medical Center-Barnabas Health six months ago, in patient services. JCMC and CarePoint Health, partnering with McCabe Ambulance, are the two bidders for the city's ambulance contract, which Mayor Steve Fulop has said would be awarded at the City Council's Nov. 12 meeting. Fulop has not announced yet whether the city has selected a winning bid.

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Jersey City councilman to abstain from vote on ambulance contract

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal

The president of the Jersey City City Council will abstain from voting on the city?s ambulance contract because of his ties to an executive with one of the two firms bidding for it.

For about eight years, Rolando Lavarro, a councilman at large, worked in the grants office at New Jersey City University with Ruddys Andrade, who left the university in February to become a director at CarePoint Health Foundation, the nonprofit arm of local hospital chain CarePoint Health ...

After The Jersey Journal learned that Andrade scheduled a campaign fundraiser for Lavarro at Casino in the Park in August, Lavarro told the paper he asked Andrade to book it because Andrade ?has a really good relationship? with the Lincoln Park banquet hall's management.

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Bayonne to opt out of McCabe ambulance pact and seek best deal

By Jonathan Lin | The Jersey Journal
October 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM

The Bayonne City Council voted unanimously last night to put the city's contract for ambulance services out to bid, with plans in place to opt out of the existing five-year contract with McCabe Ambulance by the end of the year.

The decision by Bayonne council members comes less than two months after both CarePoint Health, whose Hudson County hospitals own a majority share of McCabe Ambulance, and Jersey City Medical Center-Barnabas Health put in bids to provide ambulance services at no cost to Jersey City.

"Our taxpayers are paying over $650,000 a year, when McCabe Ambulance gave a proposal to Jersey City for zero," City Council President Sharon Nadrowski told The Jersey Journal today. "If that's the trend, and they're going to provide services for free, then we would expect a comparable offer."

For the 2015 fiscal year, Bayonne is paying McCabe more than $815,000.

"We have a deficit, so we need to save any money we can," she added.

Bayonne's existing contract with McCabe Ambulance runs from July 1, 2011 to June 30, 2016, but includes an "out clause" that allows city officials to unilaterally end the contract upon 30 days written notice at its sole discretion.

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With all the past turbulence and lack of transparency concerning this contract, the city selects Nov 26th, the day before Thanksgiving to announce the decision. Really?

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Bidders for Jersey City ambulance contract state their case

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
on August 27, 2014 at 3:09 PM, updated August 27, 2014 at 5:16 PM

Officials representing Jersey City Medical Center-Barnabas Health and CarePoint Health each stated their case at a neighborhood meeting last night detailing why their hospital should be awarded a contract to provide ambulance service for the city.

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Bayonne man gets charged $8200 for a bandage at Bayonne medical:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/a-n ... put-a-bandage-on?s=mobile


If Steve goes through with this I hope you fools make sure you keep him from winning JC in the governors race. Oh wait, but, Christie!!!!

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I just picked up my Jersey City Reporter, headline says, "City of Bayonne reconsidering McCabe contract? The mayor of Bayonne wants the contract to go to JCMC instead. Yet our leader, Fulop wants to give us McCabe/Carepoint. I cannot wait until the article goes on line.



City of Bayonne reconsidering McCabe contract?
Davis insiders say Bayonne ambulance contract could go to JCMC instead
by Al Sullivan

With two years until the McCabe Ambulance contract expires in Bayonne, city officials apparently are looking for other bidders who will provide the service without cost to the city. Sources connected to the Davis administration said the city is looking more closely at its contract with McCabe, a company based in Bayonne.

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Bayonne is the most expensive hospital in the country. The article posted here the other day said they charged $9,000 to fix an injured finger. They are owned by the same folks that run McCabe/Carepoint.

I bet people will be very concerned when they see their bills from these places, courtesy of Fulop.


With CarePoint's recent acquisitions of Hoboken and Christ hospitals people in the JC area should expect to soon find out for themselves.

That is what really disapoints me about Fulop's desire to work with CarePoint. CarePoint represents the worst of a broken healthcare system by making most people with insurance "out of network" and then charging what should be considered criminal rates.

At a recent neighborhood meeting Mayor Fulop was bragging about the Affordable Care Act signup results from JC and how they were well above the national average. Well, who cares when you are supporting a healthcare profiteer that will have many of those people insured "out of network". Supporting CarePoint is selling out the residents of JC.

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I just picked up my Jersey City Reporter, headline says, "City of Bayonne reconsidering McCabe contract? The mayor of Bayonne wants the contract to go to JCMC instead. Yet our leader, Fulop wants to give us McCabe/Carepoint. I cannot wait until the article goes on line.


Bayonne is the most expensive hospital in the country. The article posted here the other day said they charged $9,000 to fix an injured finger. They are owned by the same folks that run McCabe/Carepoint.

Instead of being worried that Fulop could hijack JC residents into being sent to these extortionate nightmares, some people are concerned with getting credit for an idea to split the city in half. Or are not concerned at all.

I bet people will be very concerned when they see their bills from these places, courtesy of Fulop.

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I just picked up my Jersey City Reporter, headline says, "City of Bayonne reconsidering McCabe contract? The mayor of Bayonne wants the contract to go to JCMC instead. Yet our leader, Fulop wants to give us McCabe/Carepoint. I cannot wait until the article goes on line.

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(if the city goes with two providers I wonder if the city and Kelly (and the JJ) will give credit to the JCList guy who came up with the idea on December 17, 2013)

CarePoint Health, Jersey City Medical Center again vie for Jersey City ambulance contract
By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal

on August 08, 2014 at 2:00 PM, updated August 08, 2014 at 2:09 PM

After an eight-month break, the battle for control of Jersey City's ambulance contract is heating up again.

Bids for the contract were due last week, and local hospital chain CarePoint Health and Jersey City Medical Center-Barnabas Health were the only entities to submit proposals to become the city's ambulance provider. JCMC has provided that service for Jersey City for over 100 years.

The contract concerns basic life support only. JCMC will remain the ambulance provider for advanced life support because it is the only Jersey City hospital with a trauma center.

Jersey City, CarePoint and JCMC would not provide the bids to The Jersey Journal.

The city has devised two plans for the contract: one would have one entity provide ambulance service for the entire city; the second would divide the city at Montgomery Street, with one bidder providing ambulance service for the northern half and one providing it for the southern half. Bidders were required to submit a plan for the entire city, while a proposal to service just one half of the city was optional.

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You have no choice if the EMS ambulance is Carepoint. Are you suppose to say, "Get lost if you are having a medical emergency?"

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It has to be about patient choice, not b/s Carepoint is peddling about taking people to the nearest hospital in an "emergency". That should be written into the ambulance contract.

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Set up system with neighbors, if you get hurt or sick have one of the neighbors take you to the hospital... or call a cab.


Or prevent Fulop from trying to jam this through to make his campaign donors happy.

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Set up system with neighbors, if you get hurt or sick have one of the neighbors take you to the hospital... or call a cab.

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This is absolutely scary that Fulop is pushing this. $8,000 for an injured finger, can you imagine a trip in a Carepoint EMS ambulance?

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Recent news on Bayonne Medical Center!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... at-CUT-middle-finger.html

'United Healthcare is deeply concerned about hospitals establishing an out-of-network strategy to hike the rate they charge for emergency room services, often surprising patients,' said Jones to NBC.

A friend of mine had a similar experience at Hoboken Medical Center. Got charged 6k out of network bill for a small cut on hand.



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Fulop really doing everything he can to help his campaign donor folks over at McCabe/CarePoint. All at the expense of Jersey City residents of course.

I guess many won't realize just how bad this is until they get out of network insurance bills from McCabe and massive medical bills from CarePoint that could force them into bankruptcy. And of course it will be too late to do anything at that point.

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Can't think of a worse outcome when Carepoint owns both Bayonne MC and Christ Hospital. Carepoint will simply take a huge section of the South and the Heights anyway. And it will pretty much be down to their discretion in the section they operate ("the traffic was bad to JCMC...").

Is there any mention of patient choice in the RFP? Shouldn't that be what it's about?

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Here?s a solution?.

Both companies are good at what they do no denying it.

Both companies are offering their EMS services free of charge to JC.

So just split Jersey City in two at Montgomery Street.

JCMC will get everything from Montgomery to Bayonne.

McCabe (assuming they will operate out of Christ Hospital) gets everything from Montgomery to Union City.

No need for the $2.6 million from McCabe because there shouldn?t be any calls that the JCFD would need to handle being we would have two EMS companies serving the city backing up each other.

Also make both companies sign a 7 year free service contract with JC. JC has been paying/ subsidizing the JCMC EMS close to $4 million a year since 2006* . So they owe us around $20 million worth of free service. (we saved the JCMC)

*I find that interesting we were paying/subsidizing JCMC EMS millions a year so they could make money from our emergencies.

The solution is a win-win for everyone. JCMC EMS keeps a share, McCabe EMS gets a share, JC taxpayers stop subsiding EMS services, JC residents have double/closer EMS coverage.


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[Ah -- Well, city officials do read JC List so they probably did indeed get the idea here!


Yeah I am going to email Mayor Fulop if they go with the idea I at least hope they name it "the neverleft" or better yet "the Sound Machine".

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Jersey City would divide in half at Montgomery Street under ambulance contract plan

By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal
on July 02, 2014 at 8:15 AM, updated July 02, 2014 at 8:16 AM

Jersey City could be split in half and serviced by two ambulance providers under a request for proposals issued last week.

The RFP, which was issued Friday and seeks proposals by July 30, includes two possible scenarios. Under the first, one provider would respond to calls throughout the city. Under the second, one provider would respond to calls north of Montgomery Street and another south of it.

"It is within the sole discretion of the city to award based on option A or option B, and whether to award to a single or to multiple respondents," the 55-page RFP reads.

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(No I am talking about this guy...who came up with the idea on Dec 17, 2013 and who has been posting it here on JCList and nj.com. Dang I should have copy righted it.)


Ah -- Well, city officials do read JC List so they probably did indeed get the idea here!

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(No I am talking about this guy...who came up with the idea on Dec 17, 2013 and who has been posting it here on JCList and nj.com. Dang I should have copy righted it.)


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Here?s a solution?.

Both companies are good at what they do no denying it.

Both companies are offering their EMS services free of charge to JC.

So just split Jersey City in two at Montgomery Street.

JCMC will get everything from Montgomery to Bayonne.

McCabe (assuming they will operate out of Christ Hospital) gets everything from Montgomery to Union City.

No need for the $2.6 million from McCabe because there shouldn?t be any calls that the JCFD would need to handle being we would have two EMS companies serving the city backing up each other.

Also make both companies sign a 7 year free service contract with JC. JC has been paying/ subsidizing the JCMC EMS close to $4 million a year since 2006* . So they owe us around $20 million worth of free service. (we saved the JCMC)

*I find that interesting we were paying/subsidizing JCMC EMS millions a year so they could make money from our emergencies.

The solution is a win-win for everyone. JCMC EMS keeps a share, McCabe EMS gets a share, JC taxpayers stop subsiding EMS services, JC residents have double/closer EMS coverage.


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(Hey Terrence or Jennifer how about a mention of the person who came up with the dividing idea? )


I thought this graf took care of that -- plus there's a link to our original story about CarePoint's letter regarding the idea.

On June 18, after the city announced it was rebooting the RFP process, CarePoint senior adviser Peter Kelly sent a letter to Fulop and members of the City Council asking that it award the contract to CarePoint and JCMC.

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(Hey Terrence or Jennifer how about a mention of the person who came up with the dividing idea? )



Jersey City would divide in half at Montgomery Street under ambulance contract plan

By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal
on July 02, 2014 at 8:15 AM, updated July 02, 2014 at 8:16 AM

Jersey City could be split in half and serviced by two ambulance providers under a request for proposals issued last week.

The RFP, which was issued Friday and seeks proposals by July 30, includes two possible scenarios. Under the first, one provider would respond to calls throughout the city. Under the second, one provider would respond to calls north of Montgomery Street and another south of it.

"It is within the sole discretion of the city to award based on option A or option B, and whether to award to a single or to multiple respondents," the 55-page RFP reads.

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http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... html#incart_river_default

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I really don't understand the reason for the RFPs for an ambulance provider for JC. I don't understand why if we have a current provider who provides service without complaints why we should change now.

I was discussing this with one of my health care providers and was told that McCabe is awful, they over-bill and steer patients to their affiliates, charges that have been aired here as well.

If this is such a well known situation, why is this whole charade being pursued, with an effect that may be detrimental to the health and economic well being of our residents?

What is the official reason for the need for this change?


Process-wise, there should absolutely be an RFP for EMS services. It is something the city has been paying JCMC almost $4 million a year to provide. Any time the city is contracting for services (i.e. paying), there should be a competitive bid.

The truth is, EMS is a profitable enterprise and the city was paying JCMC over the past several years largely to subsidise JCMC's operations, when they were on the verge of closing. That isn't a criticism - it's great that the medical center is still here and doing well, that is a better sign of vitality for the city than a 100 new pizza places.

But now that the Medical Center has rebounded and is growing and doing well, there is no longer a need for that subsidy. There should definitely be a bidding process, but the JCMC's outstanding track record should count for something too - it shouldn't just be about dollars.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was in the past 100+ years JCMC was serving JC, all of it was free to the City except during the recession years of 2008-2013. I thought that since they were recovered from that, they'd go back to not charging JC. If so, why the RFP?

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Financial impact to residents should factor in just as much, if not more, than a small subsidy to a current provider. If a small tax assessment can zero out a subsidy, and prevent egregious out of network costs to residents, it's something to consider.

But that is not the priority of resume polishing politicians.

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I really don't understand the reason for the RFPs for an ambulance provider for JC. I don't understand why if we have a current provider who provides service without complaints why we should change now.

I was discussing this with one of my health care providers and was told that McCabe is awful, they over-bill and steer patients to their affiliates, charges that have been aired here as well.

If this is such a well known situation, why is this whole charade being pursued, with an effect that may be detrimental to the health and economic well being of our residents?

What is the official reason for the need for this change?


Process-wise, there should absolutely be an RFP for EMS services. It is something the city has been paying JCMC almost $4 million a year to provide. Any time the city is contracting for services (i.e. paying), there should be a competitive bid.

The truth is, EMS is a profitable enterprise and the city was paying JCMC over the past several years largely to subsidise JCMC's operations, when they were on the verge of closing. That isn't a criticism - it's great that the medical center is still here and doing well, that is a better sign of vitality for the city than a 100 new pizza places.

But now that the Medical Center has rebounded and is growing and doing well, there is no longer a need for that subsidy. There should definitely be a bidding process, but the JCMC's outstanding track record should count for something too - it shouldn't just be about dollars.

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It's a sham of an RFP to put a veneer of legitimacy over it.

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