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Unbelievable! Father of Officer Santiago's killer is looking to get $-filing wrongful death lawsuit
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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_jersey_city_polcie.html

Lawyers for the estate of a Jersey City man shot dead by police in June, as well as the man?s father, have notified the city that they intend to file a wrongful death lawsuit, an attorney said last night.

?There is obviously an excessive force claim and this would be the highest form of excessive force -- an action which involved killing someone,? Jersey City attorney Joel Silberman said of the death of Lavon King, 20, who was shot by a Jersey City police officer on Ege Avenue on June 24.

?It was certainly an unfortunate death, and at this point of time, unnecessary and unfortunate.?

The brief notice of tort filed with the city Wednesday names the King estate and King?s father, Elliot Conyer, as plaintiffs, and the defendants listed are Jersey City, the city police department and unnamed police officers, said Silberman, who is handling the matter with attorney Aymen Aboushi.

On July 24, police officers spotted King, who had open warrants and prior run-ins with the law, on Kearney Avenue at approximately 4:30 p.m. One officer pursued him on foot, another followed in a vehicle, Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Gene Rubino said, based on the preliminary investigation.

King was tracked to an Ege Avenue backyard, where he entered a shed. As an officer entered the shed with his gun drawn, King "attempted to disarm" him and the officer fired one round, striking King in the chest, Rubino said, adding that King died that night after surgery.

?At this point the facts are not exactly clear," Silberman said. "What we do know is Lavon King was shot and killed by a member of the Jersey City Police Department. Part of the issue is that there hasn?t been a lot of details released by the city at this point.

"It seems the details of the incident are being protected. There has been little if any communication between the city and Lavon King's immediate family.?

Rubino has said the shooting is still under investigation by the Prosecutor's Office.

Silberman said he also finds it unfortunate that the city appeared to connect the death of King with the murder of Jersey City Police Det. Melvin Santiago, 23, who was gunned down by Lawrence Campbell, 27, of Grant Avenue, on July 13. Police shot Campbell dead moments after he shot Santiago.

"There was a memorial made for in Lavon King?s neighborhood for Santiago?s killer, which a lot of people found offensive and I can understand," Silberman said. "But the city ordered both (the Campbell and King memorials) be torn down.?

?Our position is that the city, in an incident like that, should really be more concerned with building bridges than tearing down memorial for a young man that lost his life,? Silberman said.

Silberman said King's "family is obviously distraught and a lot of his friend and the community are equally upset" because police "have not given any answers or explanations and we are hoping, with the action, some of those answers will come forward and we can help mend some of the breakdowns that have been created between the police department and community.?

Asked for comment, city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said in an email: "We don't comment on litigation and the case is still under the jurisdiction of the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office.''


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Re: Occupy our homes movement in Jersey City?
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I assume paying the loan you agreed to is out of the question, or is that just an absurd suggestion for you "occupy" types?

Posted on: 2011/12/19 23:05
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Re: Your Vote Can Make a Difference
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Well, case in point, Corzine. Recent events prove he was nothing more than a corrupt incompetent tool, and he was Governor while literally sleeping with labor leaders (well, his relationship with at least one labor-leading w$*#e has been well documented). Quote:

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Ditto.

Why would we ever elect a pro-union guy to represent OUR interests in negotiations with unions?

Posted on: 2011/11/8 12:07
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Re: Your Vote Can Make a Difference
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It saddens me that this \"candidate\" is teaching our children. Aside from the horrible sentence construction and the typos in his past and current rants, his staunch support of the unions shows that he is absolutely 100% NOT independent, but rather another union tool, whether he realizes it or not. I question his ability to even comprehend the complex issues that face us.

I know that this is a bastion for Democrats, but please Jersey City, let\'s not vote for the lowest common denominator. I am not advocating for anyone here, but this is definitely not the one to mend the Council of the Healy Team\'s corrupt ways.

Mr. Youssef, for the future, you were looking for the word \"choose\", not chose, get it? This is an on-line forum, and language/spelling rules are not generally that important. We all make mistakes. However, you put yourself out for public office, and tout yourself as an Educator. Your repeated errors show either a lack of education (problem) or a lack of due diligence (even more disturbing).

Posted on: 2011/11/8 1:35
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Re: I am running for Jersey City Council seat because we need a reform
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[quote]
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I was only commenting on PBW's statement. Nothing else.

No where did I endorse the candidate. I do not know the candidate and based on his postings I give him about a 1% chance of succeeding. This would be equally true even if his name reflected a different ethnicity/culture.

My point stands.

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I've responded to your ramblings, but you've made no point that "stands", as far as I can ascertain.

Posted on: 2011/8/8 13:32
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Re: I am running for Jersey City Council seat because we need a reform
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Quote:

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Of course, Jersey City has been the source of serious muslim reformers in the past. A few of them took down the towers on 9/11. I hope that's not the kind of reform your looking for.


My goodness PBW! Such views.
But then again, maybe you have a point!
Keep in mind just 2 weeks ago a serious white christian reformer murdered about 90 people in Norway.

With this reasoning lets keep white christian reformers out of the political process. Agreed?

BTW: I would really appreciate your thoughts on our governor speaking about Muslims and Sharia Law just 2 weeks ago (July 26). Check out the video at http://youtu.be/y83z552NJaw
I look forward to your response.


I'm sorry, perhaps you were too daft to read that I hoped he was NOT a nutjob. Everyone in this nation has gotten so PC, so we're supposed to forget and not even mention 9/11 and the millions of muslims across the globe calling for the downfall of the US.

As for your Norwegian reference, you are correct, if you mean I would like to eliminate nazi's from public office as well. He's a nazi.

As for your chosen candidate here, his approaches are juvenile at best. First, he's flat out wrong on his facts. JC is not even among the top 100 cities in highest paying taxes: http://wealth.mongabay.com/tables/100_high_tax-20000.html

Without the tax breaks, businesses will flee. NYC gives them. JC is competative. There are plenty of other places for businesses to go.

As for combining budgets, how is that going to solve anything other than giving more money to politicians to move around for their own ends?

I don't know this guy. I don't know what he's about. Where he comes from. I don't even know what he looks like. It seems clear that he is not really qualified, but is rather running on a platform of liberal sympathy and guilt, in this case towards muslims and minorities. It may work. It's an approach that's proven quite successful.

I'll wait to see who else is running before making up my mind, but I doubt this guy's getting my vote simply because he's muslim and says buzz words like "reform", "hope", or "change". But you seem to have blindly gone right for it, so enjoy your choice.

Peace.

Posted on: 2011/8/8 1:35
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Re: I am running for Jersey City Council seat because we need a reform
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Quote:

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What happened in the past two weeks? Or did you mean years, Referring to the FBI shake up?

Tell me your views. I wouldn't vote for you just cause you are non-caucasian, which would be racist itself. But I would vote for you if I agreed with you on most issues.


Yeah--using words like "reform" without any detail (or, I presume, any real concept) is simply an empty political move. What's your plan? What are your qualifications? Is simply being a member of a minority your ticket to politics? It's worked in the past, but how about getting serious and not just running based upon a skin color.

Of course, Jersey City has been the source of serious muslim reformers in the past. A few of them took down the towers on 9/11. I hope that's not the kind of reform your looking for.

Posted on: 2011/8/7 21:32
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Re: Former Hudson County Freeholder, Jersey City Police Official Sentenced to 41 Months for Extorting Co
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Quote:

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Also thanks for introducing me to a new word, "hypocracy". I though it was a misspelling but on research found that it describes the political situation here in Hudson County. This applies double to the JCPD.
Best!


Yeah--gotta love Urban Dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hypocracy

HYPOCRACY What Democracy turns into when all of the politicians in your country are liars.

Posted on: 2011/7/23 19:15
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Former Hudson County Freeholder, Jersey City Police Official Sentenced to 41 Months for Extorting Co
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No need to read all the drivel from Mr. Braker in his article, "Gov. Christie takes care of richest", but I have attached the link for background:

http://www.nj.com/hudson/voices/index ... ie_takes_care_of_ric.html

I'm sure many, if not most on JClist, agree with his sentiment. I personally think the world is more shades of gray, and that there are fundamental differences in philosophy about how much involvement the government should have with individuals and businesses. I fall somewhere between the dems and repubs. Christie is a galvanizing individual. There aren't many with lukewarm feelings about him.

Anyway, I'm not a big fan of hypocracy, so when I see it, I feel it should be brought to light. Former Freeholder and JC Police official William C. Braker speaks of the lessons his father taught him. Apparently, "Billy's" father forgot to teach him not to extort money from people.

If you read Mr. Braker's article, you'd think he's an innocent do-gooder. A man of the people. A good Democrat.


Here's an interesting bit about the author, that perhaps is more the source of his disdain for the Gov.-(aka, the man that prosecuted Mr. Braker). Seems like times in JC never change, even after successful convictions.:

http://www.edmecka.com/articles/forme ... orting-county-vendor.html


12-22-04 -- Braker, William C. -- Sentencing -- News Release

Former Hudson County Freeholder, Jersey City Police Official Sentenced to 41 Months for Extorting County Vendor

NEWARK - Former Hudson County Freeholder William C. Braker was sentenced today to 41 months in federal prison for extorting $3,000 in payments from a county vendor, U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie announced.

Braker, 58, who was also formerly a Deputy Director of the Jersey City Police Department, faced an applicable sentencing range of between 41 and 51 months in prison. Braker would have faced a probable range of between 31 and 41 months in prison. But last month, Braker tried to retract his guilty plea and, because of that, U.S. District Judge John C. Lifland today ruled that Braker had failed to accept responsibility for his crimes, a factor considered under U.S. Sentencing Guidelines in imposing sentence.

"We are very pleased with the sentence," Christie said. "Like other corrupt public officials we've seen, Mr. Braker seems unwilling or unable to recognize his criminality. For that, he's earned more prison time, which is appropriate and should stand as a lesson to other corrupt individuals."

Braker, who was indicted in December 2002 on a seven-count corruption Indictment, pleaded guilty on June 29, just as jury selection was to begin for his trial. He pleaded guilty to Count Three of the Indictment, which charged him with attempted extortion under color of official right.

Braker was a member of the freeholder board since 1987 and a Jersey City police officer until his retirement in 2002, when he was a deputy police director with the rank of lieutenant.

Braker admitted in June that between 1999 and September 2000 he met repeatedly with a vendor of psychiatric services and arranged to accept bribes. In exchange, the vendor was promised his vote of support as a freeholder and influence as a police official in helping the vendor obtain a contract with the police department.

The Indictment charged Braker with accepting three separate bribes. On April 4, 2000, Braker accepted a $2,000 cash bribe payment from the vendor. In June, 2000, Braker told the vendor that before the vendor could obtain a Jersey City Police Department contract, the vendor would have to "show good faith" by providing Braker with $2,000 in cash to purchase two $1,000 tickets to a political fundraiser. Braker was going to make a $1,000 cash contribution himself. Braker subsequently agreed to accept from the vendor a benefit of $1,000 by allowing the vendor to contribute not only $2,000 but also an additional $1,000 to cover the contribution that Braker had intended to make. On Sept. 29, 2000, one day after the Hudson County Board of Freeholders had approved a contract extension for the vendor, Braker accepted a $1,880 corrupt cash payment from the vendor.

After receiving a cash payment on one occasion, the Indictment states that Braker told the vendor, "I try and tell people invest five or six thousand for a three-hundred-thousand-dollar contract; you're way ahead of the game." The vendor received contracts with both Hudson County and the Jersey City Police Department.

Throughout the period that Braker was under investigation, the vendor had been voluntarily cooperating with the FBI. According to the Indictment, numerous conversations between the vendor and Braker were consensually recorded, and two of the three cash payments were captured on video tape as well.

Last month, Braker and his attorneys moved in federal court to take back his guilty plea, expressing his innocence and saying he wanted to go to trial. Judge Lifland, however, denied the motion and scheduled sentencing.

Christie credited Special Agents of the FBI in Newark, under the direction of Special Agent in Charge Joseph Billy, Jr., for their work in developing the case.

The Government was represented by Assistant U.S. Attorney Phillip Kwon, of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Newark.

Posted on: 2011/7/23 12:51
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Re: Satis Bistro - THUMBS DOWN
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Went here for brunch last weekend. The waiter could give a hoot that we were actually CUSTOMERS. "Hey guys (we are both women), want to sit here?" Gee - thanks for the welcome, pal. Oh, and it was worst seat in the house (right by the door on a cold day) when others were empty. My friend and I both had the fritatta - was like a pile of Elmer's glue. Thankfully, we brought wine to slug it down with. What a waste. Next time I will head back to Le Source, where the bartenders and staff are charming.


Yeah-Le Source, where the staff is not charming, and the food sux. Stay there. I'll take your table at Satis anytime. Great service, great food, byob.

You are clearly a tool.

Posted on: 2011/5/26 1:40
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Re: Landlord rent dispute - come back and place has been lived in
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Quote:

jmcee wrote:
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what kind of action should I take?


Keep the shampoo, water the flowers.


My dog's looking at me kinda strange because I'm laughing hysterically. Good one jmcee.

Posted on: 2011/4/30 8:48
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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I can't believe this Witch is up to it again. She needs to go directly to jail. Scumbag.

Posted on: 2011/2/8 1:03
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Re: Jersey City Police Department lay offs and budget cuts
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Not to go off on a tangent but if the mayor didn't give out all of those tax abatements, perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess. I think it is time that all those people who are living property-tax free in this city, start paying for the services that they get from the city. There has to be a legal way to put through a special "assessment" on these properties. Hell, as the mayor has said, these are tough times. Everyone has to do their part.


You don't know what you are talking about. Tax abated property owners, particularly on newer properties, are paying just as much as any other JC taxpayer. It is how those funds may be allocated, which actually benefits the city and screws the county and state. Abated property taxes generally don't rise throughout the abated period, but anyone that bought in the last 5-10 years is paying as much, or more, than their property warrants.

Posted on: 2010/12/2 11:58
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Re: Rosie O'Donnell films in Jersey City for new reality show on hunt for her ancestors
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She might have more success finding her ancestors if she searched farms.


The first place she should check should be city hall, its full of pigs hungry for money.


There's the animal shelter too. Lot's of ugly humorless b*tches that can't be socialized wasting their lives in the cages up there, just like her.

Posted on: 2010/11/22 2:29
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Re: NJ Teachers Union gone wild
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People would be calling for death if it was someone on the governor's staff. Or someone at a GOP convention.

And how the hell does this disgrace of a teacher go back to teaching in patterson. Rediculous.

Posted on: 2010/11/11 11:58
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Re: L. Harvey Smith's defense against federal corruption charges.
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Harvey Quote--It's a lynching if they're a minority. White guys be all guilty.

I say they all deserve to spend some solitude on our dollar behind bars-guarantee sharpton comes out for only a special few. Scumbags, one and all.

Posted on: 2010/10/31 23:32
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Re: Do we cut the public employees a break?
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Quote:

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skepticalhook wrote: Government employees work for society, but they act like society owes them. Well I say F them.


You sound like a typical Bush/Christie right wing moron. The unions are responsible for all, that is wrong in this country, particularly those evil government worker and teacher unions.

The truth of the matter is this country was on a sound financial footing when Clinton left office and Bush the war criminal screwed it up. Tax cuts for the wealthy, two wars that weren't paid for with tax increases and a slew of unfunded/under-funded mandates.

Now the bills are coming due and the right wing teabagger crowd want to take it out of the hide of government workers. While the banks, hedge funds and multi-nationals continue to skate.


Now who is the idiot with convenient assumptions? Oh, it's you. The amount of money wasted because the Clinton administration allowed 9-11 is beyond measure. You don't agree with iraq/afghanistan-check out SOS Rice's recemt interviews. The fact is, we spent huge dollars to keep us safe. And that worked. Not an attack, until we stopped funding and supporting proper defense, and the big O said it's inevitable that a successful attack will happen. Charon, please go to hell. We'll all be happy if you follow your moniker.

Posted on: 2010/10/31 23:25
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Re: Do we cut the public employees a break?
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This notion that all of these public employees are pulling in six figure salaries is a bit embellished. There are plenty of poorly paid public employees who aren't earning enough to buy a home in Jersey City. Of course I'm not ignorant to many of the abuses. The assertion that public employees in general are making dramatically more "than the rest of us" is hard to believe and in fact absurd Bankers and Hedgefund people are the really over paid people creating problematic income disparity. Their grossly over paid salaries created an unsustainable and unbearable rate of inflation. In a area where the average home is about $700k, why is anyone astonished by someone with a college degree and 20 plus years or working experience earning $110 to $120k.

My mom worked for the state court system for 20 years and did not earn anywhere near $100k. She barely made $55k. Her pension now pays her approximately 40% of her average salary for her last three years on the job. Nor did she have more than 4 weeks unused vacation or sick time to be paid out. This is hardly a burden on our local economy. I'd like to know what percentage of the public employees fall in my mom's category and what percentage of highly paid folks there are. Among the highly paid folks what percentage are reasonably being paid well. I know for sure that county prosecutors and public defenders aren't "raking in the dough." Yet they have seven years of advanced education and a professional license.

Of course the abuses should be addressed. For instance public employees like some police officers who were putting in for over time while hanging out at home or sometimes even at another job. Unfortunately some of those folks have retired and their pension payout is based upon the salaries they were paid including the falsified OT. So it's probably nearly impossible to figure out how to reclaim those dollars at this point. Still if a propery audit is done uncovering enough abuse I suspect a claim may be made to support a position in an effort to reform the pension obligations to something that would alleviate the impending disaster.



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STOP TELLING TEA PARTY LIES!!!!!!!!!


Sounds right on the money (so to speak) to me. We can no longer afford to have 2 parallel but unequal economies: one of high compensation, benefits and security for public employees, and another for the rest of us.

The problem is $55K isn't a bad public salary for someone with an average education. I'm guessing your mom didn't graduate from college (which for someone making $55K plus benefits and pension, would be a bare minimum in the private sector to earn that). She wasn't a judge--she was a court clerk taking her 5 weeks vacation and unlimited sick pay. These "necessary union percs" are not provided in the private sector.

The public sector unions have muscled their way into inequitable benefits and salaries. And the misery that we non-public employees experience every time that we deal with city, state and federal idiot bureaucrats just confirms that the lowest common denominator in society is working for more as government employees than the actual people that keep this world moving. Government employees work for society, but they act like society owes them. Well I say F them.

Posted on: 2010/10/31 20:36
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Re: Teppan Bar and Grill
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I have to say that I had high hopes seeing as it is close to where I live.... My boyfriend and I both thought it was terrible. We were there for hudson restaurant week and selected items from their set menu. I can't speak to hibachi or sushi but everything was clearly frozen, defrosted and put on our plates. Reading these other comments makes me want to give it one more shot.... but we spent over $100 and we expect more than frozen seafood.


I'm a drinker, and I make no judgment, but if you and your boyfriend spend $100 there, half your bill was booze. I've been there and I've seen the food before it's grilled. Looked relatively fresh. Why don't you try heading there sober and follow up for us. Eh?

Posted on: 2010/10/28 23:21
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Re: Your favorite Hi-Rise in downtown JC
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If you're looking for a highrise in which nobody has ever seen a cockroach in it, I think you should probably reevaluate your standards. The more important question is, is there a history of infestation, how do the landlords and/or codo assoc deal with it, etc. There's probably not a building in downtown, new or old, that doesn't have cockroaches on occasion. That's par for the course in high density living and is no reflection on the cleanliness of any one person since they spread so easily. You could keep your home spotless but if someone down the hall brings them in, bam!


That's bs. I lived in Portside for years and never saw a roach. I bought recently in a downtown highrise and, again, have never seen one.

Posted on: 2010/10/22 17:04
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Re: Downtown: Trump Plaza Residences Featured on Fifth Season of "HGTV Design Star"
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The bitter folks on this board would rather speculate and complain than ever do anything positive or actually look at facts. I've said it before and I'll say it again--stay in your basement apartment in the heights. Enjoy yourself. Just let us enjoy ourselves too.

Posted on: 2010/10/19 23:38
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Re: JJ Editorial; Well worth reading....
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From the JJ:

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Velazquez, who earned his jurist doctorate at Notre Dame, works as a judge in the Jersey City Municipal Court and as assistant Hudson County counsel.


So this will make 3 city/county jobs this guy has.

Am I correct that this makes him the first "triple dipper"?


He's a multi-TOOL.

Friggin political hack token appointment.

Why, again, isn't Healy in jail?

Posted on: 2010/9/28 12:18
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Re: Time to buy?
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Quote:

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As far as banks paying back the taxpayer money. It ignores the mountain of toxic mortgages that were "bought" by the government at face value.
This largesse to Wall Street and the banking system made the TARP money look like cabfare. Officials, those few who understand an iota of economics, prefer not to dwell on this fact.

If we revalued this toxic debt to actuual value, the number would be BLINDINGLY high.

So, no, the banks that should have failed and the insurance companies that should have failed, and the mortgage companies that should have failed were bailed out for many many TRILLIONS and that debt to the American people will NEVER be repaid.

And as for inflicting pain, anyone who is jobless today can thank Wall Street's greed and fraud.


Keep your head in the sand and keep drinking the dems coolaid. Thank Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for the mess. ?Do you really think the repubs were behind minority loan programs that ignored credit scores?

Posted on: 2010/9/28 1:24
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Re: Trump Plaza - Jersey City
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First, Trump is the managing agent for the pool, gym, etc. He doesn't own or have any investment in the building aside from that. He has no interest in a bankruptcy in the building and would hold no sway.

The building is more than 65% sold (actual as opposed to under contract). Your rumors are without basis in fact. I know you hate that some people can afford it and you can't, but how about you just not speak about things you know nothing about rather than conjecturing from a point of jealousy (as you sit in your basement rental).

If you'd like to cite sources, please feel free.

Posted on: 2010/9/26 20:06
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Re: Can landlord 'force' me to renew my lease?
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In Soviet Russia, leases renew you.


Yakov Smirnov, you are hysterical!

Posted on: 2010/9/11 17:40
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Re: Jersey City school district welcomes 13 new administrators
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Quote:

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still do not understand how Healy escaped prosecution. the man is on freaking tape thanking Dwek for 10K.


Well it's not like he tried to sell Obama's senate seat. If that's not illegal (according to some lunatic post-menopausal Chicago grandmother), then Healy taking cash for favors should be worthy of commendation for bringing $ into JC in these harsh financial times. (again, read with sarcasm).

Posted on: 2010/8/28 17:29
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Re: Jersey City school district welcomes 13 new administrators
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I certainly hope they were all given both promotional and merit raises. . .

(please re-read again with extreme sarcasm).

The schools suck. OK, so let's have the head sucker promote some cronies. And let's pay 'em more money. Awesome. Go team Healy! (minus whoever got indicted). So, I guess, go Healy! Please, just go . . .

Posted on: 2010/8/28 16:55
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Re: We are census undercounted
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Can someone, anyone, please tell me why I have had two (2) census workers sitting at a table in my apartment building for the last four (4) weeks, wasting time and tax payer dollars? I know Obama wants to keep those employment numbers up, but this is ridiculous.

Isn't the census over!? I thought it ended April 30, 2010, 4 months ago.

Posted on: 2010/8/19 22:59
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Re: JC residents complaining about Goldman ferries?
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Agreed!

Posted on: 2010/8/3 22:44
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Re: JC residents complaining about Goldman ferries?
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Nope--they don't even have to go in to get a voucher or anything. They go straight to the boat. And I rarely see any urgency.

Whoever it was that cut in front of you was from a different company.

Posted on: 2010/8/3 22:22
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