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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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JCase wrote:
The OP is talking about a test of passive millimeter wave units. They don't see through your clothes.


Very insightful. Still disturbing from a 4th amendment standpoint. And still useless if someone with intent to harm gets as far as the checkpoint before being detected.

Also seems more than a little disingenuous to call this a "test" as they appear to be using these things all over the place. I think what they're testing is public acceptance of (yet more) surveillance.

Posted on: 2009/6/12 12:27
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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jennymayla wrote:
Please do not presume to understand what I think and what educates my point of view. Do not belittle my opinion because it is different than yours. I've respected what you all had to say (ok, at least 99% of it. fine, maybe 95%) and request that you do the same.


No, no. I'll take the hit on this. I did mean jennymayla. No offense intended. And I'm not blowing a gasket.

I have no intention of belittling anyone's opinion. I'm just taken aback when people aren't riled up when the government takes away their rights. This would appear to be an illegal search. (I'm not a lawyer.)

IMO the reason it's OK with airports is EVERYONE is subject to the same search. This, on the other hand, is crap. You can circumvent this by using another station, another entrance to Exchange Place, etc.

What next? Buses? NY Waterway? Turnpike toll booths?

And if this is the same technology as the "virtual strip search" that TSA says they've taken great pains to ensure the privacy of the traveler then why aren't they taking the same steps here?

TSA had what appears to be the same portable system in the Minneapolis airport last summer at the conclusion of the Republican convention. It was right outside the security checkpoint observing people in line. There was no warning (that I'm aware of) to the public. There were no signs near the equipment informing the public of what they were doing. There were two or three guys sitting at a table about ten feet from the tripod-mounted scanner watching whatever it is they can see on their screens and steering the scanner to look at different subjects.

Posted on: 2009/6/11 20:07
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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jennymayla wrote:

If I have to make sacrifices for general safety, I am ok with that.


And that is precisely the point here: It's doubtful they're making anyone any safer. It's "security theater" (I love that term!)

You see action and equate it with progress. (If they are scanning me or making me take my shoes off, it must be making me safer.)

Posted on: 2009/6/11 15:50
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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T-Bird wrote:

Sadly, to me at least, the legacy of the WTC attack won't be that we are safer and have learned some lesson because we can never be "safe." That's just the way life is. No, the real legacy will be that fear is the most effective tool available to people who want to control you to achieve their objectives.


Bingo. I think that sums it up nicely!

Posted on: 2009/6/11 15:44
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Re: PATH: Security Screening
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jennymayla wrote: Quote:
It's not too late. The potential damage control, including collateral damage, is substantial. And also? They are the security experts. We are just people with a platform where we like to b*tch about things. Unless you are a senior level security official, in which case I apologize. Fail fail.
It is too late. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Kip Hawley (TSA Administrator under Bush): KH: Moving security out from behind the checkpoint is a big priority for us. First, it gives us the opportunity to pick up a threat a lot earlier. Taking away weapons or explosives at the checkpoint is stopping the plot at nearly the last possible moment. Obviously, a good security system aims at stopping attacks well before that. That's why we have many layers of security (intel, law enforcement, behavior detection, etc.) to get to that person well before the security checkpoint. When a threat gets to the checkpoint, we're operating on his/her terms -- they pick when, where, and how they present themselves to us. We want to pick up the cues on our terms, before they're ready, even if they're just at the surveillance stage. Also: This is yet another infringement of rights that people seem to willingly give up. A little here, a little there... it all adds up. And... the "I have nothing to hide" argument is crap. Have a look at this rather lengthy (28 page!) essay on that argument. I have only had time to skim the essay but from what I read it's very interesting.[quote]

Posted on: 2009/6/11 12:23
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Re: Harley Davidson motorcyclist killed in accident this morning in Greeville
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GnomeGeneral wrote:
How come people who commit most crimes in Jersey City have such shitty names? Dyrell? Who the eff comes up with these?


Read "Freakonomics"

Posted on: 2009/5/15 15:07
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Re: Coast Guard comes to rescue of whale in the Hudson River (underneath the Verrazano Bridge)
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trp3 wrote:
someone should tell this whale where the cool hangouts are......Fiji, Bahamas, Hawaii......


Not the Sand Bar?

Posted on: 2009/4/10 11:55
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Re: Liberty State Park in the evening
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On skates? Beware the cobblestones! Otherwise it's a nice, flat (VERY flat) ride.

Posted on: 2009/2/11 12:34
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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skepticalhook wrote:

The best thing would be to really push for the criminal charges and try to get restitution from the criminal courts. I also wouldn't count out the possibility that they might just disappear and you'd have to find them. FYI--While it's been reported that they were moving to California, I understand that they've also said that they were moving to Ohio.


I'm sure they'll set up that nifty looking web site wherever{sp?} they land.

Posted on: 2009/1/28 18:00
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Re: Unleashed Pit Bull attacks jogger in Lincoln Park -- Owner leaves woman bleeding
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Quote:

elvis wrote:
Phun,

That loud swooshing sound you hear is my post going way over your head.

Biscut,

You think Phun has his head up his ass? Is that it?


And still no response to mine... And why make it personal? I'm simply asking about the numbers you quoted and you accuse me of having may head up my ass?

Nice job.

Posted on: 2008/12/16 20:52
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Re: Unleashed Pit Bull attacks jogger in Lincoln Park -- Owner leaves woman bleeding
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Just staying on the topic of dogs -- glass tables? Start another thread.

Posted on: 2008/12/16 19:07
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Re: Unleashed Pit Bull attacks jogger in Lincoln Park -- Owner leaves woman bleeding
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Quote:

elvis wrote:
Hey Just for Phun,

Each year an estimated 20,000 people, most of them children, are treated in emergency rooms for injuries sustained from glass furniture. In an average year, three children die.

Lets ban glass coffee tables!

Riiiight...


Hey Elvis!

I noticed that your "1 in 145,000,000" is from a pit bull owner's web site. I'm sure they have no axe to grind. (Or is that "dog in this fight" ?) Totally unbiased, I'm sure.

Posted on: 2008/12/16 16:22
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Re: Unleashed Pit Bull attacks jogger in Lincoln Park -- Owner leaves woman bleeding
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Quote:

elvis wrote:
Fact: Out of the estimated 53 million dogs in the United States 92 fatal attacks are contributed to Pit Bulls or Pit Bull Mixes from 1965-2001. (Thats 37 years so almost 3 a year! WOW!)

Source: Fatal Dog Attacks by Karen Delise



So I guess it's OK if only 3 people per year die from a "Pit Bull" attack?

Riiiight...

Posted on: 2008/12/16 13:03
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Re: KIOSK BADGERING AT NEWPORT MALL
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So which order is it?

A: Kiosk badgering is a step up from telemarketing; or

B: Telemarketing is a step up from kiosk badgering?

Posted on: 2008/11/13 12:40
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Re: Liberty Harbor
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Damn! Do you teach acting classes?? -- you should be!

Quote:

fasteddie wrote:
You don't have to like them. Go there and treat them like a bum at a drive up donut window. Wear your best most expensive clothing and jewelry. If you don't have any, borrow some. Arrange to have someone call your cell in the middle of their sales speil and take the call, mention large sums of money and drop some celebrity names. Keep an impatient annoyed expression on your face. The kind of face you make when you smell something bad. They want YOUR money and they will kiss your ass to get it.

Posted on: 2008/10/24 11:29
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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ianmac47 wrote:
Quote:

jclxz wrote:
Yuppie scumbags.


Get a job.


Errr... don't you mean "Get a car." or "Get a granny cart." ??

Posted on: 2008/7/23 18:24
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Re: Photogaphy illegal in public places? PA didn't get the memo
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Nice collection of horror stories about the "War on Photography"

http://nycphotorights.com/wordpress/

Posted on: 2008/7/10 11:33
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Re: What was going on last night around Ham Park?
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simplify wrote:
It makes me thankful we live so close to the fire house on 8th.


Really?

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Posted on: 2008/6/19 18:23
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Re: An Open Letter to You, My City Hall Nemesis
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ZOMG! Impossible to make this stuff up! I love it! Best. Post. Ever!!!!

Posted on: 2008/6/6 18:34
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Re: Lafayette Park Communipaw Neighborhood
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Quote:

parkman wrote:
If you like being a pioneer, it?s possible to buy or rent a large space for 1/3 the cost of downtown.


But remember: Pioneers get the arrows, settlers get the land.

Posted on: 2008/6/5 11:30
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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I've lived in four different buildings in Paulus Hook since 2000. Every one of them had/has a small collection of BJ's carts. I guess folks who walk to the store just keep on going with them straight out of the parking lot to their home. Contractors use them to lug paint cans, lumber, whatever to apartments.

The marina behind Hudson Point actually had two chained to the fence for a while.

They just seem to accrete over time. It's no wonder you see people following shoppers around the BJ's parking lot to snag a cart!

Posted on: 2008/5/29 12:12
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Re: Maniac drivers who speed through crosswalks (and stop signs)
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Quote:

alb wrote:
Second, I think one problem with the pedestrians in Jersey City is that a lot of people have never driven a car, or at least have never taken a U.S. driver's ed class, so they really have no idea how a driver is thinking.

Along the same lines, a lot of drivers here probably have never learned much about the local rules of the road and have no idea that pedestrians in crosswalks have right of way.


Pedestrians don't need to read the rules of the road. A little common sense goes a long way. (Should go a long way. I can't recall a pedestrian vs auto incident where the car loses.)

As for drivers... see this: NJ MVC Driver Manual

Drivers have very specific instructions as to who has the right of way.

Posted on: 2008/5/23 19:04
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Re: Maniac drivers who speed through crosswalks (and stop signs)
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I stop when there's a stop sign and if there are people about to cross at a crosswalk. Otherwise I keep moving.

All mine, no sniglet reader here.

Posted on: 2008/5/22 14:25
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Re: Maniac drivers who speed through crosswalks (and stop signs)
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Quote:

JCbiscuit wrote:
uh, the STOP sign at said crosswalk would probably be a good reason to, I dunno....stop? whether or not there are pedestrians present.

it's not exactly "making up the rules," it's following them.


I meant the folks who stop when there is no stop sign. Or they stop for the "Yield to pestrian" when there is no pestrian to yield to. (pestrian: Pest + pedestrian)

Posted on: 2008/5/22 14:15
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Re: Maniac drivers who speed through crosswalks (and stop signs)
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Quote:

RocketBldg wrote:

I, too, have stopped at cross walks only to have the car behind me blow its horn or receive unwelcomed and unnecessary vulgar hand jestures. And one of the cars simply went around me because the driver could not wait.



I *hope* you're not the person that stops at the crosswalk when there's nobody crossing. Although I wouldn't drive around someone in this situation, you can be sure I'd hit the horn and probably give an "unnecessary vulgar hand gesture." I see this all the time. Drivers who make up their own rules of the road. It's dangerous for other drivers when someone does the unexpected.

Posted on: 2008/5/22 11:55
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Re: HD Experts: Questions on using JC Comcast?
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ianmac47 wrote:
If HD is your cup of tea, you might want to consider that Comcast degrades their HD signal.

Gizmodo Article


Just curious: Do you have Comcast HD or are you just pointing to an article about it?

Posted on: 2008/4/16 18:26
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Re: Handicapped Hang Tags
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Aren't pregnant women supposed to exercise?? Maybe those "expectant mom" spots should be at the *other* end of the lot?!

Posted on: 2008/4/10 13:08
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