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Re: A New Study Revives the Debate Over Property Tax Abatements
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So ridiculous, right on the waterfront and the developer needed to have a higher abatement than they already had?

The rich getting richer at the expense of all taxpayers. I love it. I suppose things aren't as bad now as they used to be, but the city council was just giving this city away back then.

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I believe you are referring to what was known as Crystal Point at the foot of 2nd Street. The building was completed and the developers came back to city council to sweeten the tax abatement due to poor sales during the great recession and the council did it.

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I can't recall any exact details of it here but there was one condo project in Jersey City that received an abatement some years ago when it was first built, then the developers asked for an additional abatement quite some time after the agreement had already been signed because the individual units in the project weren't selling fast enough. Whether or not they received the additional abatement or not I don't remember but the fact that the city even took this request seriously just blew my mind. Did anybody here not understand the basic economic concept of supply and demand? If the units were not selling fast enough, did the possibility of LOWERING their prices ever occur to the developers?

Maybe I'm the idiot here, to think that any developer Jersey City should be required to take some RISK when there is a potential REWARD, rather than pushing the risk onto to the taxpayers and collecting the reward for themselves. The economics class I took in high school and business classes I took in college must have been total bunk. Our previous President, in his days as a businessperson was all about capitalist profits and socialized losses, after all.

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Re: A New Study Revives the Debate Over Property Tax Abatements
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I can't recall any exact details of it here but there was one condo project in Jersey City that received an abatement some years ago when it was first built, then the developers asked for an additional abatement quite some time after the agreement had already been signed because the individual units in the project weren't selling fast enough. Whether or not they received the additional abatement or not I don't remember but the fact that the city even took this request seriously just blew my mind. Did anybody here not understand the basic economic concept of supply and demand? If the units were not selling fast enough, did the possibility of LOWERING their prices ever occur to the developers?

Maybe I'm the idiot here, to think that any developer Jersey City should be required to take some RISK when there is a potential REWARD, rather than pushing the risk onto to the taxpayers and collecting the reward for themselves. The economics class I took in high school and business classes I took in college must have been total bunk. Our previous President, in his days as a businessperson was all about capitalist profits and socialized losses, after all.

Posted on: 7/28 23:00
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Re: Social Justice and Arts Groups go AWOL on Pompidou
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JPhurst wrote:
City council should allow unlimited time to speak. However, the speaker has to sit on a dunk tank and has to leave when one of the council members hits.


There ya go, that'll work well. Some of these wannabe politicians and self-appointed activists could use a good dunking. So annoying the way they drag things out at every meeting!

Posted on: 7/12 15:58
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Re: Social Justice and Arts Groups go AWOL on Pompidou
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Yvonne wrote:
The city council has reduced public speaking from 5 minutes to 3 minutes, so it is difficult to have the time to speak on more than one subject. If you want to speak on garbage removal that effects your property or the museum, you must choose what to speak on.


Is this for speaking on the different resolutions being put to a vote or for the open mike at the end of the meeting? Either way, I have no problem with this rule because it is one way to combat that certain contingent of people (not saying you are one of them) who come to every single meeting and feel the need to make comments or ask (often inane) questions about every single ordinance and drag out the meetings for hours when there are other residents with a quick comment or question who have to work the next day and/or kids to put to bed. It's the price of democracy I guess but the way certain individuals act that result in meetings being dragged out so long is really frustrating and comes off as inconsiderate to those who don't need to ask questions about every single ordinance and filibuster with their comments.

Posted on: 7/8 1:26
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Re: Low Commission real estate agents
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Quote:

MDM wrote:
Anyone here have good / bad / indifferent experience with low (i.e. 2%) commissions for selling a property?


I would love to hear any stories (most I've heard have been very negative) people have about Foxtons. Granted, they went out of business more than 10 years ago, so that's probably a tall order. Their business model made no sense - while a seller could save a lot because of the lower commissions, what incentive would a buyer have to use them? A real estate transaction has to work from both sides of it to successfully sell a property at a good price and Foxtons couldn't do that with their business model. I remember seeing their small billboards around Jersey City on occasion.

On a somewhat related and funny note, for many years after Foxtons went out of business, I would see their badly faded purple and yellow umbrellas attached to hot dog carts all over Manhattan, presumably purchased in the bankruptcy sale! Haven't been into Manhattan too much lately for obvious reasons, but you may *still* see those umbrellas today.

Posted on: 4/8 16:26
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Re: Low Commission real estate agents
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Quote:

MDM wrote:
Anyone here have good / bad / indifferent experience with low (i.e. 2%) commissions for selling a property?


Remember Foxtons? They were one of the original low commission real estate agents that charged 2% and eventually 3% when the 2% commission just wasn't sustainable. In any case, let me put it this way - you get what you pay for. I heard a lot of horror stories with regard to them and then they went out of business entirely when the housing market tanked in 2008 I think.

While many full-service agents will agree to a lower commission than 6% - I've heard some go with 5% from the outset - anything too far below that and I'd wonder how much attention they would give my property. That said, I do know some people who used eRealty or RedFin, where you pay a flat commission of a few hundred dollars plus 3% to be in the realtor's Multiple Listing Service and claim they got the results they desired while saving a lot.

Really, the best thing to do is find an agent that others have highly recommended that will work their hardest to get the highest possible price for the property. Some agents are well worth the 6%, others just get lucky when the home sells quickly, having done hardly any work, but the reality is, while you may want to save on commission, no buyer cares what agent you are using. If you miss out on any potential buyers because your low cost agent didn't market it to enough people, the savings probably isn't worth it.

Posted on: 4/7 18:42
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Re: Council Approves Controversial STEM High School
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So how much more will our property taxes be going up to pay for this, in addition to the special property tax to pay for the arts? No doubt there will be funds diverted from the regular schools to pay for this place, and we as taxpayers have to make up the difference. I just love it.

Posted on: 3/26 17:38
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Re: Schools to be Well Funded but Taxes are Going Up
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Somebody should challenge the legality of a property tax to specifically finance the arts. That is absolute horse sh*t for sure. People want art, they can donate money to the museums and other organizations. Property taxes are high enough in Jersey City, the economy is really bad and this is just ridiculous. Our schools are a necessity. While I might offend people if I say the arts is a luxury, we have plenty of it already and the general public should not have to subsidize it for those that need more of it. This is just unacceptable.

Posted on: 3/19 22:37
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Re: Car wash
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I've always been pleased with City Car Wash at 6th & Division Streets. They're cheap, it's brushless (spraying instead) and they work hard. It is cash only and also bring some extra money to put in the box they have for tips because their workers deserve it.

There are gas stations over by the Holland Tunnel with car washes but I don't care for them because they are the automated brush kind that can potentially damage the finish on some cars, mine included.

Posted on: 2/25 16:14
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Jersey City parking enforcement officers say they have to issue a ticket every 30 minutes
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Nothing for me to add on this one, just read the story:

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/08/jers ... ket-every-30-minutes.html

Posted on: 2020/8/24 2:06
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Re: Evict a tenant of illegal (not zoned) apartment
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Quote:

tern wrote:
Perhaps there is more to the story, but from what is written, a 21 year old throwing parties and having guests, hardly seems the worst tenant you could have.

Involving the city, or "lawyering Up" is the worse thing you could do, in my opinion, just speak to her and let her know that you need the apartment back at the end of her lease, giving her plenty of notice to find a new place.

Robin.


I didn't necessarily think that "lawyering up" is a good idea per se, but consulting with a landlord-tenant lawyer have them readily available should the need arise is probably a good idea. You don't want to find yourself knee deep in this sh__ and then waste your time finding a lawyer, making an appointment and signing a retainer. Best to get that done ahead of time, and to know what your options are as well. While a lawyer might give the very same advice being given here - i.e., pay the tenant off and have them move out - they'll make sure it's all done legally and properly. Some people here may feel that it's unnecessary but that's just my two cents.

Posted on: 2020/7/20 3:00
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Re: Evict a tenant of illegal (not zoned) apartment
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Quote:

tern wrote:
Perhaps there is more to the story, but from what is written, a 21 year old throwing parties and having guests, hardly seems the worst tenant you could have.

Involving the city, or "lawyering Up" is the worse thing you could do, in my opinion, just speak to her and let her know that you need the apartment back at the end of her lease, giving her plenty of notice to find a new place.

Robin.


I didn't necessarily think that "lawyering up" is a good idea per se, but consulting with a landlord-tenant lawyer have them readily available should the need arise is probably a good idea. You don't want to find yourself knee deep in this sh__ and then waste your time finding a lawyer, making an appointment and signing a retainer. Best to get that done ahead of time, and to know what your options are as well. While a lawyer might give the very same advice being given here - i.e., pay the tenant off and have them move out - they'll make sure it's all done legally and properly. Some people here may feel that it's unnecessary but that's just my two cents.

Posted on: 2020/7/20 2:58
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Re: Short Term rental enforcement
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Quote:

MDM wrote:
Learned something today...

Check with the short term rental companies to see if your property is listed. I got a "love note" from Jersey City threatening me with $2k per day fines for an illegal short term rental.

I don't do short terms now, nor have I ever done short term rentals...

Turns out a previous tenant listed herself as the owner and was subletting a room for $79 a night. The tenant has been gone for almost 2 years, but the ad still shows up in searches.

I have been on the phone with FlipKey for the past hour trying to get this ad removed.


That's an interesting one, getting fines for listing a short term rental that doesn't exist.

So, the other question is, were you able to inform the city that that those listings on FlipKey, and who knows where else, are not your listings? I presume you actually didn't get fined yet, just warnings from the city.

Posted on: 2020/7/14 4:35
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Re: Short Term rental enforcement
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Quote:

MDM wrote:
Learned something today...

Check with the short term rental companies to see if your property is listed. I got a "love note" from Jersey City threatening me with $2k per day fines for an illegal short term rental.

I don't do short terms now, nor have I ever done short term rentals...

Turns out a previous tenant listed herself as the owner and was subletting a room for $79 a night. The tenant has been gone for almost 2 years, but the ad still shows up in searches.

I have been on the phone with FlipKey for the past hour trying to get this ad removed.


That's an interesting one, getting fines for listing a short term rental that doesn't exist.

So, the other question is, were you able to inform the city that that those listings on FlipKey, and who knows where else, are not your listings? I presume you actually didn't get fined yet, just warnings from the city.

Posted on: 2020/7/14 4:29
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Re: Evict a tenant of illegal (not zoned) apartment
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brewster wrote:
While it's not a great idea, there's many, many thousands of these illegal units in JC, many of them illegal only because of low density zoning rather than because they fail habitability or safety requirements. I have a hard time believing getting caught is that drastic. I've heard many stories of them passing inspection simply by removing the range. Poof!! It's no longer a separate apartment.


Getting caught with the illegal apartment is one thing. Evicting the problematic tenant... quite another, even if the unit was totally legal and far worse if the unit is illegal from the sounds of it. I'd be talking to a landlord-tenant lawyer now.

Posted on: 2020/7/10 14:42
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Re: Grubhub drivers dupe restaurant out of hundreds, owner says
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Unbelievable. People really have no shame, profiting from this pandemic in some of the worst ways. This is right up there with the bogus GoFundMe fundraiser after Michael Yun's death.

I guess these restaurants need to just have their own delivery people or just say to hell with it.

Posted on: 2020/4/12 17:39
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Re: Residential high-rise with school could replace 2 blocks in Downtown JC
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All fine and nice, but is the developer going to get some extortionate tax break again for building this? I'm really sick of all the tax breaks given to developers in parts of the city where developers would still make plenty of money without the tax breaks.

I'm sure a significant portion of the building will be exempt because of the school, which is perfectly fine but that should be the only real tax break, if you can call it that.

Posted on: 2020/2/14 21:11
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Re: NJ family says they received used diapers in nightmare Amazon delivery
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You know, with all the delivered packages that get stolen in Jersey City, why couldn't this have been one of them? That would certainly be justice for all the a--holes who pull this shit (literally in this case).

Posted on: 2020/1/13 3:51
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Re: JC teachers who made 99K or more in 2019
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Quote:

Yvonne wrote:
My salary was private, it did not come from the public and did not affect anyone's taxes and it was not $99K. I just saw my former neighbor's house listed in today's paper under tax lien. Reval brought up his taxes and now he is in a hole for $30,000. $7,500 goes to the public school from his $30,000. But in the meanwhile, some people live in tax abated buildings and use the public schools and have no concern about losing their homes. The issue is the affordability of living in JC and paying taxes that steals people homes. The lien list has 37 pages of people in tax lien. Secaucus is 20 percent of JC population, had eleven names in lien which would be 55 people if the same size as JC. It is about the affordability of living in this city. So, nicky, spend $1.50 on the Jersey Journal and see the results of giving some teachers $99K plus. Public education is not free, it cost people money and homes.


Property taxes are a problem for some long-term residents but I don't see how teachers who make these salaries are at fault for peoples' homes getting tax liens on them. As for the people living in tax abated buildings, what is the issue there? Should the people in those buildings voluntarily pay extra property taxes. Tax abatements are not forever, eventually those buildings pay the same property taxes as any regular building. I do agree that the city is much too liberal with that, and don't understand the need for tax abatements in the waterfront area, but again, the people who live in those buildings are not to blame for other people suffering tax liens and other financial problems.

Posted on: 2019/12/5 17:34
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Re: JC teachers who made 99K or more in 2019
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Most of the teachers on the list at the link had more than 30, 40 or even 50 years experience, which doesn't and shouldn't come cheap.

There were, however, numerous others on the list that had been working for New Jersey for far less, some less than 2 years, however, I really don't think they were just hired out of college at those salaries, no doubt they were teaching in another state before New Jersey, so it's kind of misleading in that sense. Here's the part of the link that shows the full list:

https://patch.com/new-jersey/pointplea ... who-make-99k-or-more-2019

What I don't get is exactly what Yvonne was seeking to accomplish here. Was she trying to say that these teachers earn too much and should have asked for a lower salary when they started the job? Human nature just doesn't work that way and never will.

Posted on: 2019/12/5 0:11
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Re: End of AirBnB in Jersey City?
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Quote:

val7101 wrote:
What's that sad lady from the tv commercial gonna do now? Oh I know maybe rent out her apartment to long term tenants while she lives in her second apartment?


If you're talking about that woman named Sherry, she doesn't even have to do that. She can continue to do the same as she did before, as long as she lives in the same building. These regulations didn't mean a damn thing to her! I don't think these regulations meant a damn thing to anybody featured in AirBnB's infomercials/advertorials. At the end of the day, they were just paid spokespeople with whom we were supposed to feel sympathy for. The people that this referendum did affect - people who own the buildings, rent out rooms on AirBnB but don't live in the buildings - don't present much of a sob story.

Never had a problem with AirBnB but I do have a problem with lying.

Posted on: 2019/11/6 15:20
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Re: End of AirBnB in Jersey City?
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So the big vote is today, did you see many people at the polls?

Posted on: 2019/11/5 16:03
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Re: End of AirBnB in Jersey City?
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neverleft wrote:
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Hey caj11

Found it? it was just on the Sunday morning CBS News 8:15 am so I did some more digging.

It is on their website https://www.keepourhomesjc.com/videos

Keep Our Homes Spot #4

Doing a tax look up with her last name the property is located 37-37A SHERMAN PLACE. She is the woman featured in the Keep Our Homes Spot #2 saying her house has been in the family for 3 generations. A nice brick 2 unit house so if she lives there she can short term rent that apartment 365 days a year to cover her taxes. Duh.


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The silly thing on the woman in spot #4 is that she has one unit rented out on AirBnB, and she lives on the same property. So, if I understand these proposed regulations correctly, they would have NO effect on her. They only affect people with four or more units at the same property being rented out. She shouldn't care about this at all.

Nothing but a paid spokesperson for AirBnB I guess. I don't even care about this one way or the other - I don't rent out any space on AirBnB, and AirBnB hasn't seemed to affect my neighborhood (I don't see strangers traipsing around with suitcases every Friday and Sunday, as is the common complaint). But if AirBnB is going to disseminate propaganda like this, they should be using people whose situation is truly affected by this, not some glorified sob story that essentially is a lie and can be easily verified with property records. Would make it all more convincing.

Also see this link:

https://jerseycityairbnb.com/the-problem-with-sherry-geoghan/

Not only do these proposed regulations not affect this woman or her property, the rising property taxes that supposedly hurt so many people in the last reval went DOWN for this woman!

Really, AirBnB?

(again, I don't have a problem with the AirBnB concept itself, I just have a problem with lying)

Posted on: 2019/10/28 6:02
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Re: End of AirBnB in Jersey City?
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Quote:

neverleft wrote:
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Hey caj11

Found it? it was just on the Sunday morning CBS News 8:15 am so I did some more digging.

It is on their website https://www.keepourhomesjc.com/videos

Keep Our Homes Spot #4

Doing a tax look up with her last name the property is located 37-37A SHERMAN PLACE. She is the woman featured in the Keep Our Homes Spot #2 saying her house has been in the family for 3 generations. A nice brick 2 unit house so if she lives there she can short term rent that apartment 365 days a year to cover her taxes. Duh.


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Thanks, much appreciated. I will check it out.

Posted on: 2019/10/28 0:41
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Re: End of AirBnB in Jersey City?
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neverleft wrote:
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A new low for the vote NO crew. I was watching Good Day NY this morning when a breaking news like video comes on. It is set up a like local news station piece with a bottom banner. HOL-TV I think. The news caster voice says ?JC is about to ban shot-term rentals?. The red headed woman who is in another commercial that says her family will probably lose their house that has been in the family for generations appears. This time she said she won?t be able to pay her taxes if she is not allowed to rent out an apartment. It ends with the news caster voice saying ?back to you? as the GDNY comes back on. Sad. More deception and funny if the woman wanted to save her property why not rent the apartment out long-term with no worries about finding a short-term daily booking.

PS ? I got my 8th can we count on you to vote NO call from Pennsylvania last night.


I don't suppose we can see that particular story online? I'd sure like to see it but couldn't find anything on the Fox 5 website. Sounds interesting.

Posted on: 2019/10/25 21:26
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Re: Skunks out of control in Lafayette!!! City Sides with Skunks!
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This is off on a tangent but related, since we're talking about wild animals... Did anyone ever hear raccoons mating in their back yard, or somewhere outside their home?

I did once, a few summers ago I think, in the middle of the night, it was so loud and intense it woke me up, since my bedroom faces my backyard, on the ground level and I can't say for sure the raccoons were actually mating but it sure looked and sounded like it as it had been described before. Let me tell you, it was one of those things so unique it stays permanently etched in your mind. Sounded like cats fighting, only 100 times louder with screams 100 times more intense. When they finished their business, both were covered in blood and then just wandered away. Not quite the way humans mate. I think it woke up some people in the surrounding homes too because I saw a few other lights on that night.

You just don't see stuff like this on the National Geographic Channel, or Nova. Mother Nature at her finest.

Posted on: 2019/9/12 18:04
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Re: 7 On Your Side helps keep New Jersey hot dog shop on a roll after check fraud
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
I was thinking about this story, there's just so damn many holes in it.
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he deposited it by taking a photo of the altered check which the bank cashed.


Cashing is not remote depositing. AFAIK to do a remote deposit you need an account! They require at least several forms of ID to open a bank account, and then cashing a check requires funds equal to the check to be held till it clears. Also, if "he deposited it by taking a photo of the altered check" why bother altering the physical check, just photoshop it. The whole thing doesn't add up, but it could be the usual bad reportage.


Yeah, that is rather bizarre, seems like it would be a snap to catch the person that deposited the check, as no check cashing place would accept this check.

Posted on: 2019/9/9 19:45
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Re: 7 On Your Side helps keep New Jersey hot dog shop on a roll after check fraud
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Two questions on this one -

1) Is this the sort of thing that FDIC or any other type of insurance would cover?

2) Why didn't they just pay the insurance bill online? Nearly all insurance companies allow you to pay their bills online.

A shame this all happened in any case. I hope they catch the person that did it, and yet another reason I don't write paper checks anymore unless I absolutely have to.

Posted on: 2019/9/9 14:56
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Re: Anti-gentrification activist
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It's been a while since I've posted here or looked around much, particularly since the search function no longer seems to work. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything of Devyn Manibo's anti-gentrification "campaign" lately, did it ever gain any traction?

Her anti-gentrification website is gone and they seem to keep gentrifying Jersey City, so I guess it was a flop.

I never heard so much nonsense from one person, other than perhaps our current President, talking about all the hipsters "invading her neighborhood" as if it was hers to take, among other things. There were people on this thread claiming to know her or who had met her, was wondering if she realized how silly the whole thing was.

Posted on: 2019/8/8 19:49
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Re: Neighbor illegaly paved over front yard for parking
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Quote:

135jc wrote:
I'm curious to see what happens as well. I bet after all your whining they get to keep the driveway. And all that will be accomplished is more tax money wasted


Fine then, I guess from your perspective that it's okay for anyone in the city wishing to set up an illegal driveway and add to the curb cuts in the neighborhood to do so.

Just like Herbert Hoover said "a chicken in every pot" one of the next candidates for mayor can say "a driveway for every townhouse", everyone else without a townhouse and parking space of their own be damned. Great way to get campaign contributions.

When someone, more specifically a neighbor breaks the law that potentially affects me and other in a neighborhood, exactly why am I supposed to mind my own business? Could you explain that one to me please?

Posted on: 2019/7/12 21:40
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