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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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TonyTwoPoops wrote:
Had the same commute for many years- cannot imagine using public transportation to do it compared to a car. I know that's a useless contribution because this is aboit public transport but had to chime in with everyone else about driving being a million times easier.


It's good feedback though. I am enjoying aggregating and digesting the range of opinions and experiences. I am now toying again with following commute:

- Walk to Harsimus Cove Light Rail (15 minutes)
- Take the Light Rail from Harsimus Cove to the Tonnelle station in North Bergen (20 minutes)
- Take an Uber to Harmon Meadow (15 minutes)

I figure I could send the Uber request a few minutes before I get to the Tonnelle station so the Uber arrives around the time I pull into the light rail station.

With that said, I have never counted on Uber as part of a daily commute. So that's a bit anxiety-inducing. Maybe there's a cab stand there? Sure would be nice.

It does stink that the commute time between Downtown JC and Harmon Grove doubles or triples when taking public transportation as opposed to simply driving one's own car. Hopefully I can stomach doing this without a car -- at least at the beginning.


Posted on: 2016/5/20 7:57

Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2016/5/20 8:15:05
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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Be careful with Secaucus Junction, I've only had a stop over there 3 times and all 3 times the connections left without the Hoboken train that was supposed to connect.
Had to wait a full hour for the next train. This was about 2 years ago, so maybe they fixed it.


Good to know, BeatrixKiddo. I will be on the lookout. The good news is that -- during peak times in the mornings and evenings -- trains run between Newark and Secaucus Junction every few minutes and there are no stops in between. So I figure if I miss one train, I can just grab the next one.

Posted on: 2016/5/20 7:47
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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asny10011 wrote:
I agree, it is easier to drive directly there. However, not everyone owns a car. The attendant costs of owning a car (parking, gas, tolls and insurance) is easily 400 or 500 monthly without car payments.

Perhaps this might lend itself to a car pooling situation.


Or a Vespa? I once commuted 4 miles each way on a moped.


It's an idea, Brewster, and I won't rule it out just yet. But with the wildly varied conditions of the roads in Hudson County and some of the nutjob drivers out there, I think I would feel much safer driving a car or taking public transportation.

Posted on: 2016/5/20 7:43
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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Annod wrote:
There is a bus 85 from Hoboken.

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0085.pdf



Thanks Annod. I did see that. The challenge with that bus is that it is a local route with 32 stops between Hoboken and Harmon Meadow and the bus route itself takes about 45 minutes. Plus, I would have to take the PATH or light rail from Downtown JC to Hoboken which would add to the commute. And the 85 Bus only leaves every 30 minutes.

So when I compare the Hoboken option to the Newark option, Newark seems more appealing to me and actually ends up being faster. I think I'd be OK with having a bus be part of my daily commute as long as the bus was an express or semi-express bus. For example, the bus from Newark to Harmon Meadow has only 6 stops and is mainly traveling on a highway. Much less painful than the 32 local stops with the 85 Bus from Hoboken.

I did give the 85 Bus a try on the way back from one of my interviews and the 32 stops really wore me down. It felt like I died a little inside. And when I got back to Hoboken, I couldn't believe I still needed to take the PATH home to Grove AND I needed to transfer at Newport or Exchange Place to get to Grove. I was beat.

It is nice to have so many public transportation options. So it could be a heck of a lot worse, right? I just wish the light rail went to Harmon Meadow and Mill Creek (or even Secaucus Junction!) and didn't just dead end at Tonnelle Avenue with no bus options to Harmon Meadow. I find that strange since they are geographically so close to one another.

Good times. In any case, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!





Posted on: 2016/5/20 7:37
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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asny10011 wrote:
I agree, it is easier to drive directly there. However, not everyone owns a car. The attendant costs of owning a car (parking, gas, tolls and insurance) is easily 400 or 500 monthly without car payments.

Perhaps this might lend itself to a car pooling situation.


We'll see what happens. I do have a friend I may hitch a ride with in the mornings. In the evenings, I would probably do one of the following depending on my departure time:

1. Free EZ Ride Shuttle/NJ Transit Train/PATH
2. NJ Transit Bus/PATH
3. Uber/Hudson Bergen Light Rail
4. Just Plain Uber

When I did have a car in JC, the monthly costs added up like you said:

$400 car payment
$200 insurance
$150 off-street parking
+ gas, tolls, maintenance, etc.

I grew up in the suburbs. So I know what it's like to drive anywhere and everywhere. But I've been in JC for about 15 years and have enjoyed being carless in JC for the last 8 years. I am curious to see if I can endure a carless commute to Harmon Meadow in Secaucus each day. I am going to give it a try. Time will tell!





Posted on: 2016/5/20 7:14
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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ThirdStreet wrote:
I live in the Grove Street (Liberty Harbor) and work near the Mill Creek mall which is on the other side of Harmon Meadow.

I am curious why driving there is not an option? I ask because this is one of those few situations, driving there is so, so much more advantageous in terms of time and money , it just doesn't make sense to consider anything else. The drive from Grove street area to Harmon meadow should be no more than 20 to 25 minutes depending on the traffic. The alternatives all require transfers, and take a minimum of 30 additional minutes each when all is said and done. For me, the fact I have an extra every day during working days is huge.
Also since the distance is less than 7 miles, the amount of money I spend on gas for commute is less than $60 a month.


Thanks for the feedback, ThirdStreet. I don't currently keep a car in Downtown JC, but I did years ago. If the public transportation solution to Secaucus ends up being a nightmare, I may cave in and use a car. Come to think of it, it would be nice to save some money by shopping at some of those big box retailers after work.

But strangely enough, I am also looking forward to taking public transportation to work above ground. It'll be nice to check work e-mail and personal e-mail, do online banking, read the news, check Facebook (and JC List!), look out the windows, text and make the occasional phone call. Service was rare -- spotty at best -- when taking the PATH and subway in NYC. So being above ground has its merits.

We'll see how this goes!

Posted on: 2016/5/20 6:54
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Re: Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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asny10011 wrote:
Would taking the train from Hoboken to Secaucus Junction be faster than the train from Newark?


Good question, asny10011. It's about 13 minutes by train from Hoboken to Secaucus. It's about 11 mintues by train from Newark to Secaucus. Which sounds pretty similar. But there are other complications.

To get to Hoboken, I would likely take the PATH to Hoboken from Grove Street. So I would have to transfer at Exchange Place or Newport. That's one strike against Hoboken.

The second challenge is that there aren't trains leaving Hoboken too frequently in the morning. So I would need to be really careful about arriving on time each morning.

The benefit of going through Newark is:

- PATH trains to Newark stop at Grove St. every 4 minutes in the morning.
- A ton of NJ Transit trains head from Newark to Secaucus every few minutes and there are no stops in between. Sometimes there's only 3 minutes in between NJ Transit trains passing through.
- There's a free shuttle bus from Secaucus to Harmon Meadow that runs every 10 minutes or so.

So while I like the idea of leaving from Hoboken and it looks shorter on paper, it doesn't offer the same flexibility of leaving from Newark.

Posted on: 2016/5/20 6:34

Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2016/5/20 6:57:35
Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2016/5/20 6:58:07
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Commute Advice: Jersey City (Downtown) to Secaucus (Harmon Meadow)
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I am starting a new job in Secaucus (Harmon Meadow) and commuting from Jersey City (Grove PATH area). I am looking for advice on the fastest, most efficient way to commute via public transportation. I will have a standard work day (9am-6pm / Monday-Friday).

Using Google Maps, NJTransit.com and PATHNYNJ.gov, these seem to be the best routes:

Route #1:

- Take PATH from Grove St. to Newark Penn Station
- Take NJ Transit Bus #78 to Harmon Meadow in Secaucus

Route #2

- Take PATH from Grove St. to Newark Penn Station
- Take NJ Transit Train to Secaucus Juncton
- Take Free EZ Ride Shuttle to Harmon Meadow in Secaucus

Route #3

- Take Hudson Bergen Light Rail to Tonnelle Avenue Station
- Take an Uber to Harmon Meadow in Secaucus

Anyone know if there is some sort of direct bus, shuttle or van from the HBLR Tonnelle Avenue Station to Harmon Meadow? I have been checking online, but I have been unable to find anything. I could Uber it now and again. But I am not sure I like the idea of being dependent on Uber as part of my daily commute.

I have also found bus routes via Hoboken, Journal Square and even NYC. But it does seem strange to go into NYC every day only to go back to NJ to work.

To recap, my goals are to:

- Use public transportation
- Get there quickly
- Keep transfers to a minimum
- Limit the number of stops along the way
- Reduce my costs
- Not be dependent on Uber or cab service daily
- Find a route with frequent trips (in case I just miss the previous bus or train)

Any and all helpful advice is appreciated. Thanks!


Posted on: 2016/5/19 16:05
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Re: Has Raval Closed Down?
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Spoke with the bartenders about the changes at Raval when I was there on 12/19. Here's the scoop. They will be closed 12/20 through 12/30 and will reopen for New Year's Eve. The mosaic booths in the front were awkward and not comfortable. So they are ripping them out and replacing them with high-top tables similar to the ones back by the bar. They are making some tweaks to the menu as well. They are also streamlining some of their internal processes. For example, servers will submit all orders through the bar including orders for low-top tables (i.e., non-bar patrons). Looking forward to having them reopen on 12/31.

Posted on: 2015/12/27 16:56
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Re: Wayne Street Issues
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Temporary chain-link fencing has been erected effectively shutting down Angel Ramos park on Wayne Street, and a portable toilet was also delivered.

These may be signs of upcoming renovations since the park is now closed to the public. This article from last year mentions that some site updates would be on the horizon. So maybe that's what's up.

If anyone has any more details on what's coming, please share. Thanks!

Posted on: 2015/9/25 11:35

Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2015/9/25 11:51:37
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Re: Excellent Buffalo Wings- Where can I find them?
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I've had great ones at PJ Ryan's Tavern. Utterly delicious!

Posted on: 2015/1/4 2:13
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Re: Koro Koro rice ball cafe
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Koro Koro over on Jersey Avenue has become my go-to place for fast-casual food on my way home from work.

Over the last few weeks, I have tried most of the rice balls and, so far, the Cochinita Pibil is my favorite hands-down.

Two others I liked were the Cuban (sweet and satisfying) and the Roasted Red Pepper-Mozzarella-Basil special of the day (rich and decadent).

Tip: If you order the Conchinita Pibil along with one or two other rice balls, eat it last. Why? The bold (and delicious) flavors of the Cochinita Pibil (spicy, sour, citrus, garlic, cilantro) may linger if you eat it first and your palate may not be able to appreciate the more subtle combinations offered with the other rice balls (i.e., the other rice balls may seem bland in comparison when they're actually quite tasty!).

Word on the street is Koro Koro will be open 7 days a week, which will be a nice treat.


Posted on: 2014/11/10 1:06
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Re: Ahris Kitchen: Korean food in downtown Jersey City
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icecreamarsenal wrote:
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UrbanRenewal wrote:
The menu is looking good!

I am so happy to see Bibim Naeng Myun on the menu as it's one of my favorite dishes.

As a non-Korean who is used to ordering Korean food in Korean restaurants, could you be sure to put the transliterated name of each dish on your menu?

It's really helpful when ordering in a Korean restaurant, especially when you can't read Korean.

Simply seeing Kimbap, Sundubu Jjigae, Galbi, Bibimbap, etc. helps with ease in ordering as opposed to reading the English name and trying to determine the analogous Korean dish (which is what I am currently doing with your online menu).

In K-town, almost all restaurants feature the transliterated names of each dish, but it can be frustrating and more of a guessing game when the occasional restaurant doesn't do it (like they do at Pocha 32, for example).

Another question...

Will your menu be featuring Japchae?


The romanization is up now, so that should help.
As far as dishes not on the menu currently... if we find there is enough demand, we will surely incorporate them into our menu, seasonally, in the future.
Informal polls show that jap chae, nengmyun, mandu are reasonable suspects.


Thanks for the quick response and for adding the transliteration to the menu. It's very helpful!

I will definitely swing by for a meal once your kitchen is open for business. Thanks again!

Posted on: 2014/9/20 12:41
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Re: Ahris Kitchen: Korean food in downtown Jersey City
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The menu is looking good!

I am so happy to see Bibim Naeng Myun on the menu as it's one of my favorite dishes.

As a non-Korean who is used to ordering Korean food in Korean restaurants, could you be sure to put the transliterated name of each dish on your menu?

It's really helpful when ordering in a Korean restaurant, especially when you can't read Korean.

Simply seeing Kimbap, Sundubu Jjigae, Galbi, Bibimbap, etc. helps with ease in ordering as opposed to reading the English name and trying to determine the analogous Korean dish (which is what I am currently doing with your online menu).

In K-town, almost all restaurants feature the transliterated names of each dish, but it can be frustrating and more of a guessing game when the occasional restaurant doesn't do it (like they do at Pocha 32, for example).

Another question...

Will your menu be featuring Japchae?

Posted on: 2014/9/15 2:31
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What's Going on With Barrow Street?
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In August, Barrow Street from Newark Avenue to Christopher Columbus Drive changed from a two-way street to a one-way street with the arrival of the Pedestrian Plaza.

And now it looks like the city has had a change of heart and has converted it back to a two-way street. I just noticed the street has been repainted with new lines, and the traffic lights and street signs have returned to their previous state.

I wonder if there were accidents or if businesses and/or residents were not fans of the directional shift? Interesting.

Posted on: 2014/9/7 22:41
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Re: What's going there?
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Word on the street is that the Grove Florist location, which has already been vacated, and the current Hard Grove location will serve as a new downtown branch of PNC Bank.

I believe I read that on JCList.com, actually. It's nothing too interesting or sexy, that's for sure. Unless, of course, you're a regular customer or big fan of PNC Bank.

Posted on: 2014/7/10 1:48
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Re: BurritoVille -NYC's Cheap Vegan & Vegetarian Friendly TexMex Chain Opens Downtown (Old Colony)
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I just gave them a call and they're located over by Radio Shack.

It's nice to see new businesses opening in the Pathmark shopping center as opposed to just seeing vacant storefronts. Kudos to Popeye's and Advance Auto Parts -- and now BurritoVille!

Now they need to give that whole center a facelift (like McDonald's recently did after their fire) as the sidewalks and parking lot still need some work, and the whole place could use some better lighting, trees and landscaping.

Eventually, I am sure the owners of the center will work with the city to rezone it to give it a denser layout, return to more of an urban street grid and maybe even integrate housing.

Until then (which is probably years away), it's nice to see an eatery with healthier options open in the Old Colony shopping center to serving Van Vorst Park, Liberty Harbor, Bergen-Lafayette and beyond.

Thanks for sharing, GrovePath!

Posted on: 2014/6/28 17:49

Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2014/6/28 18:06:16
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Re: Best JC Breakfast Sandwich?
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Asif wrote:

There was a Caribbean Restaurant called Lisa's Roti Shop(not sure if its still around) but they had something called doubles. They were freaking yum. It was two pieces of fried bread and in the center was chickpea/stew like filling. I am so craving that right now. Any one know of another place that sells those?


Doubles = Delicious! It's a breakfast staple in Trinidad and Tobago, but I could eat those sandwiches at any time of day or night. My co-workers of Caribbean origin introduced me to the joys of Doubles a few years back.

If you're looking for Doubles in Downtown Jersey City, you could try Nicole's Caribbean Restaurant at the corner of Jersey and Columbus which is Guyanese-owned.

While I don't think they have Doubles listed explicitly on their menu, you could order their Channa (stewed, curried chick peas) and Puri (fried bread) and assemble your own. Top your sandwich with some of their complementary house-made scotch bonnet hot pepper sauce for some intense heat.

You could also try any of the Indian or Pakistani restaurants scattered around Downtown Jersey City or near in the Little India area of Journal Square. Just order the Doubles-esque Chole Bhature.

Or make your own version of Doubles by ordering Chana Masala and Bhatura or Puri. Customize your creation with some complimentary cucumber, onion, Achaar and/or chutney (coconut, tamarind, cilantro -- or a little of each) and you have a mighty tasty vegetarian sandwich packed with flavor.

Happy eating!

Posted on: 2014/4/6 18:19

Edited by UrbanRenewal on 2014/4/6 18:47:40
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Re: Third & Vine Restaurant
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Looks like they close quite late, 12:00AM, except for Fridays and Saturdays when they close at 2:00AM.

Love the late-night hours and now I'm curious to hear when the kitchen closes.

Posted on: 2014/2/22 12:23
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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I spotted a banner mentioning that 143 Newark Avenue will be the new home of Hard Grove Cafe.

Any word as to when they are changing locations?

Or, more importantly, any word on what is moving into their current spot at 319 Grove Street?

Posted on: 2014/2/22 10:30
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Re: Virile Barber Shop
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While I like the concept, branding and renovations at Virile (and the idea of having a classic cocktail with my cut!), $50 is steep for me as well.

I usually head to X-Press Cuts on Grove Street where Leonor, the owner of the shop, cuts my hair for $20+tip.

She does a solid job, is super-friendly and professional, and the location is mighty convenient.

In any case, I wish the Virile guys luck and much success with their new location on Jersey Avenue.

Posted on: 2014/2/5 0:33
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Re: Virile Barber Shop
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Here's the website for the new barber shop on Jersey Avenue: VirileBarberShop.com

(I peered in through the window of the place on my way to Choc-o-Pain this morning as tommyc_37's post made me curious.)

The old-school look and throwback feel is pretty cool and unusual compared to other barber shops in Downtown Jersey City.

I also noticed that the Yelp reviews for their location in Bergen County are off the charts which has to be a great sign.

Quite a few stores have come and gone over the years along Jersey Avenue, but this place looks like it could be a keeper!


Posted on: 2014/2/4 6:58
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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The Powerhouse Lounge was recently sold to the owner of O'Hara's Downtown Sports Bar & Grill. Just heard it from an employee of O'Hara's.

He says the tentative plan is for the place to be similar to what Powerhouse has already been marketed as (i.e., a bar, restaurant and nightlife destination).

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tommyc_37 wrote:
Does anybody know if the Powerhouse Lounge is still for sale? I remember hearing it was for sale about a year ago, but I don't see it on any list of JC bars/restaurants for sale.


Posted on: 2014/1/22 16:04
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Re: Important resale factors to consider when buying a condo
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Great list, jerseymom!

Posted on: 2012/6/20 4:21
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Re: PHOTOS: The Polish community center is a blight on 6th Street
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jim399 wrote: It's a flophouse for young polish immigrants who rent out the basement for parties that leave the sidewalk littered with cigarette butts and empty Corona bottles.
Only empty Coronas, but no Żywiec bottles? ?Muy interesante!

Posted on: 2012/6/20 4:13
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Re: 'Jersey Shore' Spin-Off in Jersey City
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Just heard that Grace from Sushi Tango and Celeste from Made With Love Bakery & Cafe are hosting a "Snooki & JWOWW" premiere episode viewing party at Sushi Tango's bar on Jersey Avenue.

It's on Thursday, June 21, it's open to everyone and the show starts at 10pm.

I hope to swing by to view the antics and to see how Jersey City is portrayed if I'm not stuck at work too late.

(I'm sure other JC venues who will be having viewing parties as well, but I'll be heading Sushi Tango since I dig the place and it's just around the corner from my apartment.)

Posted on: 2012/6/20 4:02
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Re: Guerrero
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Just found their full menu with photos and descriptions at GrubHub.

Thanks for the Mexican food suggestion and for sharing!

Posted on: 2011/10/9 15:33
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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scout99 wrote:
I noticed on the PATH today that Whole Foods has now started DELIVERY to JC. So that's a start! Maybe they are doing it to gauge how much demand is here.

(BTW the delivery fee is $15)


Interesting development in the "Bring Whole Foods to Jersey City" saga -- thanks for sharing, scout99 (and heights and NJNJ)!

If anyone's curious, there's a mention of the new $14.95 delivery service on the Whole Foods NYC Twitter page.

Also, the just-launched deliveries from Whole Foods' Tribeca location to Jersey City are mentioned in the following Downtown Express article from earlier this month.

In addition, there's a recent shout-out in this Tribeca Citizen blog as well.

Enjoy!

Posted on: 2011/3/22 2:22
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Re: The Precinct at 769 Montgomery - buying preconstruction
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moxiebaby wrote:
We decided against moving into the building. The units we were looking at were right over the garage and the internal construction seemed very flimsy indeed. As for renting out in the future, yes, in theory, you should be able to get tenants, but you can't command rent high enough to profit based on what I see them asking, even following all the price reductions that building has been through. That is, assuming you are only putting down 20%. If you are putting down 50% the equation changes and you should be ok BUT it still looks like the building is pretty deserted.

The overall area itself is fine, but I don't like that the Soleil decided against a front entrance on Montgomery. A big turnoff for me was the entrance on Boland.


I also retract my much earlier statement I made in response to icechute, regarding only being able to afford mediocrity. In this market, I was able to get a piece of splendor.


Where did you end up moving, moxiebaby? Do tell!

(Just saw your comment above about being able "to get a piece of splendor" and it made me curious.)

Posted on: 2011/1/16 4:06
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Re: Loew's Theater could be so much more...
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Quite a few of my coworkers traveled from Manhattan and Brooklyn to Journal Square to see The Decemberists as well as to see Bright Eyes, M. Ward (of She & Him) and Jim James (of My Morning Jacket) perform at Loew's.

All of them raved about the venue as well as its easy access to the PATH.

Come to think of it, I posted something along these lines to JCList back in 2008. Let me dig it up...

Here's the link to the thread. Check out the photo of its striking lobby -- it's quite ornate!

I'm still surprised more promoters don't arrange to put on shows there, especially given that everyone from Patti LaBelle and Beck to Yo La Tengo and The Magnetic Fields have performed there to large audiences over the years.

More recently, I've seen some postings about the Loew's-Down Blues Concert Series that featured John Hammond, Shemekia Copeland, The Duke Robillard Band, etc.

Any word on if more concert events are in the works -- whether from Friends of the Loew's or from outside promoters?

Posted on: 2011/1/16 1:09
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