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Re: New PATH train schedules starting this Sunday
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To say PATH "didn't communicate well" after Sandy is like saying Sandy was just a rainstorm.

No, it's just to say they didn't discuss repairs, as they should have.

The failure to talk about the process did not actually slow down the repair process. The lack of communication was an inconvenience, not an impediment to service.


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New cars?

Yes, new cars. The entire fleet. Have you really already forgotten?


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1) Upgrade the signal system so it doesn't fail ever week

Every transit system has problems like this. PATH is no better or worse than any other system I've used.


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3) replace 1000000 yr old eqeipment

...a process that causes the kinds of delays you kvetch about


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4) Tell us the reason why lines are suspended ALL OF A SUDDEN
5) Give us ETA (E = Estimated) on when lines come back up

http://www.panynj.gov/path/alerts-advisories.html
https://twitter.com/PATHTrain

They also usually make announcements in the station when there's an unusual delay. Have you really never heard the guy with the weird accent?

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6) And if you want to charge us rates close to the MTA, how about you offer similar level of service?

They're not that far off. And again, MTA has its own problems.

Mind you, I don't think PATH is above reproach. Only that the level of vitriol aimed at actual service doesn't make sense. Things run fine the overwhelming majority of the time.

Posted on: 2013/5/12 11:13
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Re: New PATH train schedules starting this Sunday
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After 9/11 the 33rd-Jrnl Sqr line was directed thru Hoboken during weekend daytime hours. That service reduction has never been corrected.

I gotta say, based on the volume I see, I'm not sure restoration is justified. And it adds less than 5 minutes to the trip time. All 33rd Street trains use the same tunnel, which is right next to the Hoboken Station.


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now they want to reduce service again for the weekends.

The schedule changes frequently. The last one only went into effect in February. They could easily add more service in a few months.


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Fares go up

Fares always go up. There's this weird thing called "inflation," and yes, it affects transit services too.


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traveling public is bigger and service doesn't get better

So the novelty of the new cars has already worn off, eh?


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Sandy recovery was managed so very poorly.

Not really, they just didn't communicate well. Far, far worse things could have happened.

Posted on: 2013/5/11 20:52
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Re: New PATH train schedules starting this Sunday
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I've used a wide variety of public transportation systems in the US and Europe, and PATH is roughly the same service as everything else. I agree they don't communicate well, but otherwise I just really don't understand where all this antipathy comes from.

MTA is good, but also has its own problems -- e.g. no viable direct connections between Brooklyn and Queens (G train is a joke), repeated budget shortfalls, opaque financial management, disruptive repairs (especially on weekends), perpetual inability to build the 2nd Ave line, lines can flood at the drop of a hat....

PATH management isn't responsible for capacity problems during rush hour; there's only so many trains that can go through the tunnels. Christie also put the big kibosh on adding another rail tunnel, which would have helped relieve crowding. And if you want a packed train, try the 4/5/6 during rush hour some time.

By the way, the average overnight schedule on the MTA? 20 minutes.

Paris Metro? London Underground? Boston? SF? Atlanta? They close every night for about 4 hours.

This is not to say the PATH train is perfectly run. It's just nowhere near as bad as the haters proclaim. The level of vitriol would be inexplicable... if it was anywhere other than a community forum.

Posted on: 2013/5/11 11:15
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Re: Harassed by teens on Manila and 4th
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Article from February announcing demolition of some Hoboken projects

You might want to re-read the article.

They are increasing the number of public housing units from about 800 to 1000. They aren't doing it to chase "bad people" out of the neighborhood, they're doing it to replace aging buildings.

Posted on: 2013/5/1 19:35
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Re: Harassed by teens on Manila and 4th
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gstorm17, sorry to hear you got harassed.


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I almost think it makes sense to redevelop the projects along Manila based solely on the value of the land they sit on.

Why do you think these kids live in the projects?

? Filipinos own several of the private homes on Manila.

? Villa Borinquen (the high rise between 2nd and 3rd) is not a project, it's Section 8 and (afaik) mostly Hispanic. That means the building is privately owned, by the way.

? Most of the residents of the low-income housing between Manila and Marin, around 3rd and 4th, are Hispanic. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing any Filipinos there.

? We don't even know where these individuals live.

? Harassment is not the sole domain of "kids who live in the projects." There's plenty of well-off kids and adults who harass people on the street.

On a side note, low income families have just as much right to live in Downtown JC as anywhere else.

Posted on: 2013/4/29 1:49
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Re: More Traffic for Downtown
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Sorry for the late reply...

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Open space is being removed from Liberty State Park (LSP).

This is factually incorrect.

Before it was a park, it was a large industrial site. Huge swaths of LSP are currently unusable due to industrial pollution.

Sections of the park are slowly being rehabilitated for public use, such as the marsh section opened to the public in.... 2009?

I do agree that putting a small bridge at the end of Jersey Ave will increase traffic, but none of that traffic will actually go through the park, nor will any park land be lost. All the cars will be on Phillip Street.

It will also make LSP more accessible to Downtown JC residents. Really not seeing that as a bad thing.


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We have had the addition of a golf course. There is development impinging on LSP from all sides.

The golf course was also on formerly toxic landfill.

Development is picking up, but most of it is on space that is toxic and/or abandoned industrial lots. It's going to happen regardless of connecting Jersey and Phililp.

We should not take our public space for granted. At the same time, we cannot dip Jersey City in amber on the day we move to town.

Posted on: 2013/4/23 14:44
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Re: Rent basement and first floor as "duplex" - is it legal?
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Unless the unit is not up to code, I seriously doubt there are any problems.

And making the unit into a duplex doesn't necessarily increase the number of occupants. Plenty of people would like to have more space, as opposed to more people in their apartment.

So yeah, my guess is that you're stuck with it.

Posted on: 2013/4/23 14:16
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Re: Two Beautiful Trees Gone on Erie Street!
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I can't speak to the specific situation, but:

Yes, large trees can be damaging to city infrastructure. They can not only buckle sidewalks (which puts the building owner at legal risk), the roots can grow around and damage pipes.

It's unfortunate, but keep in mind that a tree-lined street enhances the value of those properties. A property owner or manager isn't going to cackle with evil glee because a pretty tree was taken down; they're going to get the tree cut down if it's necessary.

Posted on: 2013/4/20 21:42
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Re: Whole Foods IS coming!
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My friend's wife works in the Whole Foods corporate office and would be one of the people in the know about new locations. I've emailed my friend to see if she can share some information with me about what the story is with this.

No need, it's already been exposed as false. WF will not be in that location.

Posted on: 2013/4/17 16:40
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Re: Electronic Recycling
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I also recommend Best Buy or Goodwill.

FYI, Goodwill doesn't resell most of the electronics, they aren't worth much anyway. They partner with Dell to recycle them.

Posted on: 2013/4/16 13:17
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Re: New Jersey condo market is heating up: report
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Why even include other parts of JC with this bullshit....

Why is it "bullshit" to notice that the housing market in New Jersey is starting to pick up?


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This article is about condos on the waterfront not housing.

The article also points out how housing prices are up in Hudson and Bergen counties.

I really don't see any reason for negativity here.

Posted on: 2013/4/12 12:52
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Re: utilities issues . landlord does not want to help
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I also concur that unfortunately, the landlord's options are limited.

Legally, the landord can't enter an apartment without the consent of the tenant. In addition, each unit is responsible for its own utilities.

Realistically, the best thing you can do is demand that PSE&G credit you ASAP, and hammer on them to sort things out.

Posted on: 2013/4/11 2:33
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Re: Future of Newport Mall
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My point is that there is a more efficient way to use the space that the Newport Mall occupies, and to speculate on how long we think that it takes before the developers realize that the land can be used differently?

So, just to be clear. The owners should consider knocking down a 1.4 million square foot mall, which they've been renovating and increasingly going upscale, in order to improve pedestrian traffic to the Newport Station?

I agree the current pedestrian path is a hack, and I'm sure it could be improved. But I can't imagine they would take the whole thing down, as long as it's profitable and in good shape.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 12:07
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Re: Future of Newport Mall
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OK, I'm a bit confused by something.

If you want to walk around the Mall, and really can't stand walking through the garage (which I understand), all you have to do is walk a few extra blocks to 6th.

Is that really so hard?

I agree it's not the most charming walk, that Newport is not a pedestrian paradise, and it's poorly integrated into the rest of JC. But the Mall is only a small part of that; it's ingrained in the design of Newport as a whole.

Posted on: 2013/4/5 3:55
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Re: Orale Mexican Kitchen
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Orale is not a chain.

Posted on: 2013/3/25 23:33
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Re: In New Jersey, a Battle Over a Fluoridation Bill - fluoride will be added to Jersey City water
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ADA study confirms dangers of fluoridated water, especially for babies

Yeah, too bad that's not what the study actually says.

Basically, it just says that an infant who consumes water-based reconstituted formula, and use products like dentifrice, have a slightly elevated risk of mild fluorosis. (As in, very slight tooth discoloration.)

The ADA has put out that paper to help dentists make recommendations to parents. It isn't significant enough for the ADA to change their recommendation that fluoridation is safe. Nor have the CDC or FDA spoken out against fluoridation.

It's a good thing for new parents to know. It's not a cause for panic, or to stop fluoridation.

Thanks for the hysteria.

Posted on: 2013/3/24 13:01
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Re: In New Jersey, a Battle Over a Fluoridation Bill - fluoride will be added to Jersey City water
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Fluoridation is fine.

As the American Dental Association says:

"On January 25,1945 Grand Rapids, Michigan became the world's first city to adjust the level of fluoride in its water supply. Since that time, fluoridation has dramatically improved the oral health of tens of millions of Americans. Community water fluoridation is the single most effective public health measure to prevent tooth decay. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has proclaimed community water fluoridation as one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century. Approximately 72.4% of the U.S. population served by public water systems receive the benefit of optimally fluoridated water....

"Studies conducted throughout the past 65 years have consistently shown that fluoridation of community water supplies is safe and effective in preventing dental decay in both children and adults."

ADA > crank with website

It's not a toxin, it's not a poison. It's safe, and millions of people have consumed drinking water with a small amount of additional fluoride without keeling over.

Posted on: 2013/3/23 23:33
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Re: Grove PATH Bike parking
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Simply don't park a bike you care about at all there. Below is all that was left on the rack of somebody's ride. How someone can use a power grinder on hardened steel in a shower of sparks and not get noticed is beyond me.

Unfortunately, it's very easy to hack or clip a lock without getting pinched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGttmR2DTY8

I'd guess that most people don't pay attention, and the rest don't assume the person is a thief.

Posted on: 2013/2/25 22:37
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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Let's say it pollutes all of the hudson and kills a million fish as compared to giving one child lifelong health problems. I will take it polluting the Hudson any day of the week.

As far as I know, there's no indication of gas transmission lines giving children health problems.

In fact, one of the major reasons for running the new pipelines (albeit not in a specific location) is to replace the oil burners in Manhattan, which are a major source of pollution and presumably asthma rates. If you've ever seen the columns of black smoke from a building in Manhattan, that's the type of oil burner they're trying to phase out and replace with NG.


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Do you see the fallacy of your argument? You are saying, "IF IT DOES LEAK" then saying "It's not a death trap."

No, I'm openly saying "I don't know." It may be in the EIS or in FERC's documentation. Like I said, all I can do is guess.

I don't know which method is more expensive (nor am I the one to ask). Laying pipe in water is probably faster, might require fewer workers, and has less legal opposition.

What I do know is that Spectra re-routed sections of the pipeline off of land and into water for parts of northern Staten Island, and a stretch on the southern end of Bayonne. It apparently was done in response to community opposition and with input from FERC. (http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... roved_to_run_natural.html)


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Let's just assume that it's an extremely safe pipeline with only 1 error in a million pipes built....

Unfortunately, that's not the right way to assess risks.

We don't need to look at invented hypotheticals like this; we already have a good idea of the risks, based on decades of data.

Your scenario also plays up the "unlikely but spectacular" nature of this risk, rather than looking at how often lines actually do have errors. It also presumes that this extremely rare event must happen in the spot where it will do substantial damage.

More to the point is that we already live with similar risks every single day. We just don't think about them.

Posted on: 2013/2/25 22:22
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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Quite frankly, I happen to disagree with Dolomiti, and I am as against this pipeline as anyone....

Thanks, I appreciate both your comments and your civil disagreement.

Posted on: 2013/2/25 21:32
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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Dolomiti - shame on you!

I feel no shame whatsoever for being rational about assessing risk or infrastructure requirements.

Posted on: 2013/2/22 22:50
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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What risk does putting the pipeline in teh Hudson pose?

That's a good question. I can only guess that if an underwater pipeline does leak, it's going to take a lot longer, and pollute a lot more, before it can be fixed.

We've already used the Arthur Kill as a dumping ground for about a century, and the Hudson is also just getting clean. It might not be a bad idea to stop treating those waterways like big garbage cans. Just a thought.

PCB's might not be present in large amounts near Manhattan. The only PCB-related dredging that I'm aware of is much further up the Hudson.

But the more critical point for me is that I'm not regarding this as a long string of dynamite in the first place, so I don't see a pressing need to send it all underwater.

Posted on: 2013/2/22 22:31
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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Dolimiti: come clean - are you in the energy business? Do you have any affiliation with Spectra? DO you stand to profit/benefit from the pipeline in any way?

No
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Posted on: 2013/2/22 22:12
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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The point I?m making is that some things have very low tolerance for error, and a large diameter, high pressure gas transmission line.... is one of those things.

True, but the history indicates that residential gas lines -- which unquestionably will be running into those exact same areas when they're developed -- carry similar, if not the same, risks.

The same logic can be applied to the gas stations located at the Holland Tunnel entrance. Obviously if a station did go up in flames, it would shut down the tunnel (probably in both directions) for a few days. Why is it not "inevitable" that over, say, a 100 year span, one of them will catch on fire? Or, gas tankers intermittently catch on fire; over 100 years, is it not "inevitable" that one will burst into flames on the Turnpike?

Actually, the odds on that are pretty good. As in, it's already happened. In November 2011, a tanker caught on fire near Exit 18W on the Turnpike. (http://gothamist.com/2011/11/08/video ... reball_on_jersey_turn.php) And yet, we don't block tankers from driving in JC, on major highways or near critical infrastructure.


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This pipeline will most likely become an expensive hurdle standing in the way of improving our transit infrastructure over the next half century.

How?

Most of the areas near the rail lines are already slated for development. Or do you believe that in 50 years, NJ Transit will want to demolish a string of residential towers, and what is now the A&P and 18th Street, and whatever will be built next to Newport Green Park, to put in additional rail lines? Or that it is impossible to work around existing infrastructure?

There is no doubt that the Light Rail goes right over numerous residential gas lines. They successfully constructed it without causing any ruptures or explosions.

Speaking of which, keep in mind that local opposition to the Light Rail was fierce. We see this right now in Tenafly, whose residents insist they don't want it because of concerns over safety, the EIS, parking, disruption of the main shopping district... So maybe the real barrier won't be a pipe in the ground whose location will be marked, it'll be local opposition to *cough* added infrastructure.


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Unfortunately, the route seems to driven by Spectra?s profitability and their helpful industry colleagues in the FERC more than just the energy requirements of NYC.

There's no question that Spectra is trying to make its lines profitable; that's what companies do.

Putting in infrastructure is always going to be resisted, no matter what. Any citizen who loses the battle will insists that the government agencies involved are corrupt and/or the victim of regulatory capture.

That said, sinking pipelines in the Arthur Kill (once one of the most polluted waterways on the planet, and now barely eking out a recovery) and the Hudson River has its own hazards.

It also seems unwise to wait until Manhattan has completely maxed out its capacity before remotely considering allowing any improvements.


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Nuclear fission.... probably claims lives every day....

I won't say "nuclear power plants and weapons are 100% safe." The problem is that every type of fossil fuel or nuclear power has risks and costs lives.

Coal mining is dangerous, and the tailings are a huge environmental problem. Oil production is also hazardous, and sparks lots of political conflict. Both harm the environment when used to generate electricity.

Renewable energy is significantly safer, and better for the environment (although building the devices still has a carbon footprint). But generating enough energy for NYC via renewable sources is beyond our current abilities.

For example, a pilot water turbine project in the East River installed 30 turbines at a cost of $7 million, and provided power to 10,000 Manhattan residents. At current usage rates, you'd need 5,000 turbines to meet Manhattan's electricity requirements, at a cost of $1.7 trillion. If the units become twice as effective at half the cost, you're still looking at 2500 units @ $450 million. Even the most optimistic forecasts suggest that water power will cover 15% of US energy needs.


Anything we do right now carries a risk, and we constantly live with these risks. The risks of the transmission pipeline are being vastly overstated, and ultimately all that does is scare the residents, without really making their lives any safer.

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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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More worried about food poisoning... please.

OK then, why aren't you concerned about gasoline tanker trucks, which drive in and through Jersey City every day?

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How about gas stations?

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There are over 5000 fires at gas stations every year, which claim an average of two lives. 1 in 13 gas stations has a fire every year. Should we not locate gas stations near tunnels, schools, parks and highways? (http://www.nfpa.org/categoryList.asp? ... on%20safety&cookie_test=1)


I will grant you that photos of big explosions are much more dramatic than deaths by food poisoning. I mean, look at this e.coli, it's kinda neat.

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The point is: You can't determine the actual risk by looking at a scary photo. That's why we need to examine the facts and the statistics, not rely on emotional appeals.

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Really - on top of idiocy, why the hell should we take the risk for NYC gas customers? FCUK NYC, let them take the risk and pay the added cost of running it through Staten Island and the Hudson River.

Again, there is very little risk, as there are already residential gas lines running on every street and into every house.

Dozens, if not hundreds, of other communities "take the risk" so that Jersey City can get what it needs. This includes the pipelines that run to the Linden, NJ facilities; trucks that carry 12,000 gallons of gas to our gas stations; ports in Newark that receive those gas and other hazardous material shipments; and others that receive all our garbage and sewage. Many of these offer no direct benefit to those communities.

If everyone in Lambertville said "Screw Jersey City, the gas line that goes through here is dangerous for us and we don't get anything for it," where should the pipeline go? What community would not make the same calculation?

Running lines in water is not risk-free. There are environmental concerns, and the lines still have to land somewhere.

NYC is also, quite clearly, a big economic engine for JC. That should be rather obvious after Sandy disrupted PATH service. What benefits NYC indirectly benefits JC.

Posted on: 2013/2/21 18:28
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Your math is intellectually dishonest. Two people die per year in the whole country, the majority of which don't live anywhere near a gas pipeline.

Again, look at the PG&E map I linked above. There are gas transmission lines running through residential neighborhoods in every major city in the Bay Area and beyond, including San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, San Jose, Monterey, Sacramento, and so on. (Link: http://www.pge.com/myhome/edusafety/s ... as/transmissionpipelines/ )

The new line is only an extension from a huge storage facility in Linden, NJ -- which means the gas lines run through numerous dense suburban cities. Existing lines already come into NYC, which means they have to go through dense suburban areas. I believe one Con Ed facility is currently located in Hunts Point in the Bronx.

And there are residential gas lines running to almost every apartment, house and business in the US.

So, the number of people who eat every day in restaurants IS roughly equivalent to the number of people who are living right on top of gas lines.

Posted on: 2013/2/21 17:04
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And what makes you such an expert?

I'm not an expert, and I have no more information than anyone else. I've stated the facts as I know them, and it's all from public sources.

If you want to know about risk evaluation, Dan Gardner's book The Science of Fear is a decent place to start: http://www.amazon.com/Science-Fear-Sh ... ves-Greater/dp/0525950621

A Psychology Today article also summarized some recent findings on the topic. Several items mentioned in the article likely apply here. http://www.psychologytoday.com/articl ... ays-we-get-the-odds-wrong

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Who is this Dolomiti character and why is he/she supporting the pipeline?

Oh, for cryin' out loud.

I've lived in JC for over 10 years, I'm a homeowner. Heaven forbid I disagree with people on this topic... or point out that most people are terrible at evaluating risk.

Posted on: 2013/2/20 22:10
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Dolomiti -this pipeline is being built within 100 feet of an elementary school and a high school. Also my house. I have a baby. Would you like to be living within 100 feet of 30 inch highly pressurized gas pipeline?

Yes. I am categorically stating that I am not any more concerned about a gas transmission pipeline than I am any other residential gas pipeline.

I do not believe that you, or your child, or the students of the school, or myself or anyone else is facing a significantly elevated risk because of this pipeline.


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Do you think that this would be acceptable if it was being built through a densly populated Summit, NJ community?

Gas pipelines already run through many densely populated communities on their way to the Linden, NJ storage facility. Big cities like Boston, NYC, Philly and DC all need transmission lines.

Or, in California, transmission pipelines run through a variety of densely populated and affluent cities like San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Cruz, Monterey and Berkeley. (see http://www.pge.com/myhome/edusafety/s ... as/transmissionpipelines/) And those lines run right through dozens of residential neighborhoods.

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