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Re: Schundler drops mayoral bid
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I took a look at your site and don't see how it explains how I (much less all libertarians) "talk the talk, but don't walk the walk". It's such a broad and unsubstantiated claim that it amounts to mere name-calling.

I guess if I spent the time that you have to devote a site opposed to a specific politician and they bowed out of politics I would be happy to move on rather than continue obsessing about them.

I hardly agree with all of Schundler's positions but his giving back donors' money speaks very well of him, especially since he's financially strapped and it's not the normal practice.

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I'm sure that there are many other candidates but how many have done anything but leech off of taxpayer money their whole life?


I would include Schundler in that group of "candidates ...(who)leech off of taxpayer money".

Go the site of my sig to find out why Schundler's just like all you Republican/Libertarians who talk the talk, but don't walk the walk, just like BushWhack & his ilk who bled our economy dry during the last 8 years running up the greatest deficit this country has ever known while left a surplus.

Republicans/Libertarians leech off both the corporate/institutional tit as well as the taxpayer.

Good riddance to Schundler's candidacy!

Posted on: 2009/1/16 2:18
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Re: PLANE CRASH IN THE HUDSON RIVER
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O.K. - If we were allowed to hunt non-migratory geese on the ground this would never have happened.

Seriously, the pilot is a real hero. He made a safe water landing (water is much harder than one might think at 150 mph+) and then went through the plane twice before leaving to make sure everyone was out.

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CapnJon wrote:
since this is JClist... how long before people start complaining about this?

- they're polluting my river, i was here first!
- too many yuppies on the plane trying to gentrify the river!
- if there had been after school programs, there would've been no crash!


just kidding.

that pilot is a total rock star. someone had better buy him a drink!

Posted on: 2009/1/16 1:47
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Re: Schundler drops mayoral bid
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It's too bad that someone who has made his money in the productive private sector has been hit bad and can't take the risk of running for mayor. It's great that he's doing the right thing and returning contributions. Many politicians just keep the money for a future run so he's a stand up guy.

I'm sure that there are many other candidates but how many have done anything but leech off of taxpayer money their whole life?
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Don't worry Jenny, there are already announced plenty of other Mayoral candidates and more to come, viable and not.

I won't have a pity party for Schundler's loss though.

Posted on: 2009/1/13 3:18
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Re: Great Depression II
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So what. While people in financial services (the life blood of the NYC economy) are widely reviled while being either laid off or taking huge pay cuts; the UAW refuses to take a cut to save the firms they work for. Good riddance to them.

Obviously they are hoping for a big payback once Obama is in power. A lot of people are going to chip in about "fairness" once they realize that political power is more important than producing what people want to pay for in a free market.

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I might consider feeling bad for "most people" after they take a 45% pay cut, watch many around them lose their jobs, and man up so that their firm can survive. I don't see UAW workers doing this.


The goal isn't to get the UAW to "man up". It is to get rid of all unions in this country. Conservative Republicans don't negotiate to make things work better, they deem something evil and try to get rid of it altogether. Like they did with deregulation. We're seeing how well that worked.

Posted on: 2008/12/30 4:14
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Re: Great Depression II
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I mentioned folks either being laid off or dinged on their bonuses as an explanation for why the NYC metro area is in deep trouble (but nowhere near a depression).

In terms of your ignorance, "bonus" for people in financial services and related businesses is more accurately described as "variable compensation."

I might consider feeling bad for "most people" after they take a 45% pay cut, watch many around them lose their jobs, and man up so that their firm can survive. I don't see UAW workers doing this.

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mwa7368 wrote:
"Dinged On their Bonus"? Give me a break! Take your Bonus and shove it. Financial guys, reap what you sow!!

Most people don't get bonuses and this year the financial employees should not only not get bonuses but they should pay other peoples bonuses.

Posted on: 2008/12/29 3:10
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Re: Jersey City mayor releases Christmas music CD
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How about a download site? I love Christmas music (listening to Bing right now). At least our mayor has a sense of humor and is willing to put himself out and sing.

I think he just secured another term. No, I do not work for JC nor do I condone (nor condemn) public nakedness.

Posted on: 2008/12/20 4:37
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Re: Great Depression II
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You must not work in, or know people who work in, financial services. I can assure you that in this recession metro NYC is ground zero. Everyone I know is either getting dinged on their bonus or laid off. That will filter down quickly.

A lot of the media are based in NYC and therefore are extrapolating the experience of the (fellow elite) people that they know to the whole country. So I draw the opposite conclusion from yours - that well connected folks in NYC with loud microphones feel the pain and see it as Great Depression II while most of the rest of the country isn't so hard hit.

I completely agree that the sky is not falling and can't resist pointing out that unemployment was 25% in the Great Depression (now 6.7%) and many people were direly hungry. Today poor people are fatter than the rich to the point where they suffer from obesity related illnesses. Poor people eating so much that it's a health problem puts the talk of Great Depression II into perspective.

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regulator wrote:
the problem is alot of metro areas like NYC/JC aren't really suffering to the same extent alot of other areas around the country are. is the sky falling? probably not to the extent that the media would want you to believe. but is there a noticeable problem at the macroeconomic level? yes

Posted on: 2008/12/20 4:13
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Re: Great Depression II
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Getting "free" food (food stamps) != hungry.

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pazman wrote:
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Jeebus wrote:
I think the notion of another Great Depression is hyperbole. Let's not forget that during the Great Depression people went hungry and today a major health problem for the poor is obesity. That's a good illustration of how much better the standard of living is today and what's at stake (a decline in one's 401K vs. starving).


Perhaps it's hyperbole in your opinion because you don't know of any people who are hungry, but according to the following news article (and the department of agriculture, over 30,000,000 Americans are hunger or at risk of hunger. That figure is greater than the entire population of Canada.

Americans' Food Stamp Use Nears All-Time High

By Jane Black
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, November 26, 2008; A01

Fueled by rising unemployment and food prices, the number of Americans on food stamps is poised to exceed 30 million for the first time this month, surpassing the historic high set in 2005 after Hurricane Katrina.
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Posted on: 2008/12/17 5:22
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Re: What's worse for JC, Luxury Condos or Hipsters?
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This thread is very funny and makes me glad to be too old to complain about new neighbors based on their attire or means of making a living. It's not like they are a bunch of gangsters robbing and stealing.

One thing that bears mentioning is that the desire to live somewhere that is both "gritty" and has improved "quality of life" is less likely to happen than my desire to commute across the river in 3 minutes with a jet pack. Grow up.

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[snip]I never wanted it to stay a dump but rather improve the quality of life and keep its gritty charm. [snip]

Posted on: 2008/12/17 5:07
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Re: Great Depression II
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I think the notion of another Great Depression is hyperbole. Let's not forget that during the Great Depression people went hungry and today a major health problem for the poor is obesity. That's a good illustration of how much better the standard of living is today and what's at stake (a decline in one's 401K vs. starving).

More reasonable comparisons to the current recession are 1) the 1973-1975 recession and its aftermath and 2) Japan's "lost decade" in the 1990s (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/sep/30/japan.japan). The current recession is nowhere near as bad as either of these scenarios so far but that the "lost decade" began with a real estate bubble is ominous.

I'm more troubled by the government's effort to create a "solution" rather than acknowledge that what we have is a choice between taking the pain now and getting it over in a couple years or dragging it out over a decade. The notion that the government can bootstrap us out of this with public works spending (e.g. paying people to dig holes and then fill them in) is a recipe for a lost decade.

Posted on: 2008/12/17 3:13
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Re: Liberty Science Center begs Jersey City for $2.5M - Fulop: 'Bailout' by city would set bad prece
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Yea, rich and not rich people give money all the time to charities and people in the U.S. give far more to charity than other countries. Still, the trend in charitable giving is to pay close attention to how well the money is being spent. As much as I love that JC has a science museum the previous posts and LSC's low rating on charitynavigator.org are troubling. That the CEO makes $310K and costs 2.5% of their expenses yet received a bailout from the taxpayers of JC without conditions is ridiculous.

The unintended consequence of this bailout may be that even fewer potential donors will be inclined to donate.

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fasteddie wrote:
I always thought LSC was part of the state park system. I guess not. Anyway, rich people donate money all the time to universities, hospitals etc. 2.5MIL is peanuts to a rich guy(or gal). Doesn't LSC have a department that solicits gifts and donations? Yes, for big money you gotta name something after the gift giver but who cares? As long as it's not Trump. Ha, fat chance he would give anybody 5 cents.

Posted on: 2008/12/3 2:26
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Re: Hoboken's 47% Tax Rise Sparks Exodus Talk in Manhattan Option
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If the guy's taxes went from $16K to $21K that's a 31% increase, not a 47% increase. Either is outrageous, especially when there has been no credible effort, from the governor on down, to cut spending.

Posted on: 2008/12/3 1:11
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Re: Can anyone in local goverment hold thier drink (Lipski this time)?
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Ai, ai, ai, doesn't he realize that as an alcoholic he should be held to a higher, rather than lesser, standard. Some of my best friends are very functional alcoholics. The very idea of getting drunk and pissing on (even) Grateful Dead cover band fans is unthinkable. Perhaps it would be excusable for a 20 year old frat boy but a 40 something adult?!?!

Doing a great a 12 hour day, getting pissed, and doing it all over the next day is more like it.

Posted on: 2008/11/22 4:29
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Re: GANGS? -- 5 Dickinson High students charged after battling cops -- LUNCHTIME TURMOIL
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Is it illegal for law abiding people to carry machetes in self defense against the machete wielding thugs? I know we can't carry firearms but is there at least a semblance of a level playing field? Even if it's 15 on 1?

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More police were assigned to the school because of an uptick in gang violence. There was even what police described as rioting, including a machete attack and numerous arrests on Monday.

Superintendent of Schools Charles T. Epps has been the target of angry residents, including members of the Hilltop Neighborhood Association, who have for years complained about student intimidation, loitering, fighting and vandalism.

This week, Epps sounded more like a Wild West town sheriff than an educator.

"We put on extra police and are going to continue that through the week and up to Thanksgiving to insure we are going to be there, and whatever (bad) is going to happen, we are going to stop it," Epps told The Jersey Journal.

Shop owners say that some of their neighbors often shut their business doors at lunchtime, when students are released, and open again for business when school resumes after lunch.

They say there are times when hundreds of students run down the local streets to watch and cheer on fights.

How bad is it? On Monday, a 16-year-old boy and two friends were walking home when they were attacked by a pack of 15 boys, according to the police report. One of the attackers took a swipe at the boy's face with a machete but only cut his hand when he put it up to defend himself.

Epps said he's "working closely" with Police Chief Tom Comey on the issue. He said a symposium on gangs and conflict resolution for students, parents and community leaders is on tap for January.

It is a shame that a place of learning has become a center of chaos. There are students whose only concern is education and making a better life for themselves, but those in charge are having a difficult time of providing a scholarly and safe venue.

A symposium is a start. More parental participation is essential. For the time being, a constant police presence is a necessity.

Posted on: 2008/11/22 4:09
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Re: Hoboken: Local housing market relatively stable even in crisis
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The stock market decline is more like 15% since the election and about 30% since Obama's winning became a near certainty.

Anywho, just as the housing bubble continuing amazed me in 2005-6, the slow speed of price decreases amazes me now. Given how dependent the NYC metro housing market is on financial services and media (both troubled industries replete with layoffs and decreased comp; perhaps permanently as a result of failed business models) it makes me think that people in real estate only learn over a year after things happen when denial is no longer an option.

Do they really think that people with no job security and savings ravaged by a 40% stock market decline in the past year, even with a low 6 figure income, (their market) are itching to buy at anything close to current prices?

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Is Alice Galmann for real, saying that things could redound significantly between now and Spring 2009? Where has she been for the past two months!! It will be at least another year before things start to get better and it won't be significantly better.

"She said even the election of new president may help settle a volatile market, now that people know what?s ahead." Yeah, since the election, the stock market has tanked another 10%, so THAT will help the housing market for sure.

All of these realtors are drinking the Kool-Aid!

Posted on: 2008/11/19 2:17
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Re: GANGS? -- 5 Dickinson High students charged after battling cops -- LUNCHTIME TURMOIL
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GrovePath wrote:
DICKINSON TURMOIL
Epps: 3 arrested pupils put hands on cops

Tuesday, November 18, 2008
By PAUL KOEPP
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER
and JENNIFER KIM

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Another student believed the fight might have been related to an incident that happened last week.

"Last week, there were some guys from a gang that came in with machetes and guns, and it happened again today," the student said. The teens arrested yesterday were not charged with carrying weapons.
[snip]


If this is true (seems rather unlikely) - wow - machetes are kind of hard to conceal! Is this a school or The Congo?

Regardless, Epps describing it as 3 students being arrested because they "put hands on cops" seems to ridiculously downplay what happened. It makes it sound like someone put a hand on a cop's shoulder and was bogusly arrested for assault.

P.S. I don't mind the "true crime" posts at all. If one doesn't like them; don't read them or better yet post something positive.

Posted on: 2008/11/19 1:20
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Re: NYTimes Article on Loew's Jersey: Shows, and Renovation, Go On at Film Palace
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The Phantom of the Opera show was awesome. Our friends came out from NYC and we didn't mind waiting in the rain. It was great cheap entertainment for the end of another gilded era. The theater was amazingly packed.

Posted on: 2008/11/17 4:53
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Re: Latest Lipski shocker: Councilman was busted for DUI after another \'Dead Head\' tribute concert -
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DESECRATION 1: A Dead cover band show at the (new) 9:30 club.

DESECRATION 2: A JC pol repeatedly going to the 9:30 club and making a drunken ass of himself (why in DC; I wonder).

DESECRATION 3: Peeing on (even G-Dead) fans from the balcony.

Apparently, Lipski is the antithesis of the DC Straight Edge scene. Given his age he should know better.

Posted on: 2008/11/14 4:16
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Re: Extremely dangerous and irresponsible conduct of PATH train service Halloween night 2008
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To be fair, when I went through my emails this morning there was a PATH alert warning of delays at 3:00 am or so on the 33rd/HOB/JSQ line. Not that this would have helped us Saturday morning (didn't bring the Dingleberry out to party) but it's worth subscribing to if one regularly uses PATH.

I actually think the PATH is very well run compared to the NYC subway. In almost 10 years of daily commuting I can count the major inconveniences due to failures on one hand. I've had way more problems on the subway despite only using it about once a week.

Posted on: 2008/11/4 2:55
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Re: There are Three Public Questions on the Ballot This Election
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Thank you so much for explaining these questions on the ballot, which I could make neither head nor tail of by reading them on my sample ballot. Am I correct in assuming that by "questions" this means they are non-binding?

FWIW I will vote:
1) Yes - I think it's a good idea to allow voters to directly decide whether or not to fund spending via debt. Debt seems too easy an alternative for politicians than higher taxes or (gasp) less spending.
2) No - I'd rather have elected officials decide on judicial appointments than some unspecified other method.
3) Type II - While few vote in school board elections I would hope that the most informed and concerned do so. I suspect that some voters are teachers voting in their self interest but I'm not sure that having the mayor appoint the board (as potential patronage jobs) is better. If people care they should be able to vote.

Posted on: 2008/11/4 2:37
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Re: Extremely dangerous and irresponsible conduct of PATH train service Halloween night 2008
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Wow, these tales are horrible. Obviously, PATH should have been running rush hour service late into the night.

We lucked out taking the PATH to 14th St. around 8 pm, enjoying the costumed crowd, watching the parade, and going out to party and dance. I'm so glad that we went with my gf's decision to get a cab, go downtown for some post-party dive bar drinks and take the WTC PATH home.

Posted on: 2008/11/3 1:54
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Re: Gun rights group wants ACORN out of Jersey City case
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That's a great approach (celebrating the Second Amendment by buying now) and no matter what happens we will have 3 months before Obama/Pelosi take power. Our soon to be liberal overlords should keep in mind how Clinton lost the Congress in two years due to his gun prohibition laws.

The prospect of liberal hegemony probably does more to put firearms into the hands of the right people than anything else.

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Loopy

Since you are an expert on the 2nd amendment and spelling for that matter why don't you enlighten all of us on why we are so wrong on this subject.

In the meantime I'll be at Caso's Gun o rama buying more ammo.

Good luck fighting off that pack of wolves with a broomstick.

Posted on: 2008/10/31 2:29
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Re: Gun rights group wants ACORN out of Jersey City case
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Posted on: 2008/10/30 2:06
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Re: Jersey City cop's gun stolen from home safe
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Yea, sounds like bullshit to me - burgler went straight to the safe knowing where the keys were and took the gun. I wonder who the witnesses were and why they didn't call the cops quickly enough.

I wonder what a private gun owner would have to deal with if they were so careless/unfortunate.
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It sounds as if the burglar went straight for the keys and then the gun. I wonder if this crook was there just to target the gun or if the cop left his service weapon somewhere and reported it stolen before it gets used in a crime by the person that found or stole it from a place it shouldn't have been left.

It would be nice if the Jersey Journal mentioned if anything else was stolen besides the glock, holster and ammo.

Posted on: 2008/10/27 0:19
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Re: Village Voice: Best Outer Borough You Can Still Afford -- Downtown Jersey City
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Yea, one of the great things about living in JC is that one does not pay the NYC income tax of about 4%. After the credit for NY state taxes, the NJ state taxes are minimal. Cheap software like TurboTax will eliminate most of the hassle of two state tax returns. Given all this, it mystifies me why people with middle class jobs live in much crappier but not cheaper 'hoods in NYC than JC. Maybe it is a bunch of post college transplants who want to say that they live in NYC.

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Jersey City ISN'T an "outer borough.

It's a WHOLE OTHER STATE! If you live here and work in NYC you HAVE TO pay NJ state tax.


While you do have to pay NJ state tax, a big plus of JC is you don't have to pay NYC income tax (which is pretty big, on top of NY state tax.)



Actually, you only have to pay NJ state taxes on income you earned in NJ (eg interest, capital gains). If you work in NY, you pay NY state taxes and get credit for it in NJ. So you are NOT double taxed by NY and NJ. As mentioned above, you also don't have to pay NY city taxes if you live in JC. The annoying thing is having to file both NY and NJ taxes.


If you've been paying both NY and NJ state taxes, you should get an accountant to clear that up.

Posted on: 2008/10/24 2:04
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Re: Old Colony Shopping Center on Grand Street -- Robber's shotgun outmatches Wayne Street victim's bat
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Wow, the cascade of bad decisions is breathtaking.

1) You have a beef over money, the other guy shoots at you but you escape. [now would seem to be the time to call the cops given the serious felony he just committed, but no]
2) He calls you, you take the call.
3) You agree to meet him.
4) You bring a bat, knowing that he has a shotgun and has already shot at you with it.
5) You lose the confrontation and call the cops. Most likely the cops become very suspicious of your story and, if at all competent, enter you and your opponent into a database of people to be investigated/arrested in the future.

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GrovePath wrote:
Robber's gun outmatches victim's bat

Monday, October 20, 2008
By KEN THORBOURNE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A Jersey City man tried to beat his robber off with a baseball bat Friday night, but the robber flashed a shotgun and got away with $1,635 in valuables, according to police.

The 26-year-old victim, a resident of Wayne Street, told police he and the man got into a beef over money. The Wayne Street man fled when the other man fired a gun at his car, reports said. But then the man who fired the gun called the victim on his cellphone and said he wanted to meet at the Colony Shopping Center on Grand Street, reports said.

At that meeting, the Wayne Street man told police that after a brief verbal spat, the other man stuck his hands in the victim's Lexus and grabbed the keys to his car, his driver's license, $700 in cash and a black Nokia cellphone, reports said.

The Wayne Street man then pulled out a baseball bat and whacked the man until he was bleeding, but the robber staggered to his black BMW X5, pulled a shotgun from the trunk and pointed it at the Wayne Street man, reports said.

The Wayne Street man then backed off and the other man drove away, reports said.

Posted on: 2008/10/21 1:20
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Re: The New York Times: Healy pleased deadline has been set for Montgomery Gardens
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Another way of looking at this is that bad decisions tend to compound. It's not a matter of an uncontrollable external influence (the silly multiple bee sting metaphor) but bad choices feeding on themselves. As a counter example, look at how successful many poor immigrants have been by not being inclined to: "drop out of school, to have children while in their teens, to abuse drugs, to commit crimes, to not save when extra money comes their way, to not work".

I am very grateful that my parents, who came here with the shirts on their backs, were completely ignorant of liberal poverty nonsense. I'm sure that the future of our country will be well served by future immigrants ignoring such claptrap.

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"In the community of people dedicated to analyzing poverty, one of the sharpest debates is over why some poor people act in ways that ensure their continued indigence. Compared with the middle class or the wealthy, the poor are disproportionately likely to drop out of school, to have children while in their teens, to abuse drugs, to commit crimes, to not save when extra money comes their way, to not work. ...

...traditional economics just doesn't apply to the poor. When we're poor, Karelis argues, our economic worldview is shaped by deprivation, and we see the world around us not in terms of goods to be consumed but as problems to be alleviated. This is where the bee stings come in: A person with one bee sting is highly motivated to get it treated. But a person with multiple bee stings does not have much incentive to get one sting treated, because the others will still throb....Poverty is less a matter of having few goods than having lots of problems....

Karelis argues that being poor is defined by having to deal with a multitude of problems: One doesn't have enough money to pay rent or car insurance or credit card bills or day care or sometimes even food. Even if one works hard enough to pay off half of those costs, some fairly imposing ones still remain, which creates a large disincentive to bestir oneself to work at all....

Reducing the number of economic hardships that the poor have to deal with actually make them more, not less, likely to work, "


Boston Globe

Posted on: 2008/10/16 2:11
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Re: New Jersey, is one of 20 states that allow ex-convicts to reregister to vote.
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I had thought that felons lost all kinds of rights and that this was a Federal matter. Perhaps it is because "ex-convicts" does not specify the nature of the crime but aggravated assault sure sounds like a felony.

I'll bet that most of those 20 states are loyally Democratic. Gotta cater to one's constituency.

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I'm surprised that only 20 states allow this. If you commit a crime, serve the time sentenced and are released, why shouldn't you be allowed to vote? Shouldn't we as a society allow people to make mistakes and accept their punishment? Obviously a lot of criminals continue to commit crime, but I don't think we should exclude someone from their basic rights once they've completed their time.

Posted on: 2008/10/1 3:11
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Re: Urban Farming Isn't Just for Foodies - Jersey City woman grows lots of crops
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I've been growing stuff on my sundeck for years and the squirrels have made me give up on tomatoes. They infuriatingly nibble on them (and then leave them, mostly uneaten, on the ground) just as they are about to become ripe. Instead of maintaining an armed vigil, I've taken to growing herbs and flowers. Basil is very easy to grow in pots and can be saved and frozen as pesto (I leave the cheese out and add it when ready to unfreeze/eat it). Chives may be the most unkillable herbs as they are perennial and impervious to neglect. Fresh herbs are expensive so it's a good investment with a small space to grow them as well as enjoying the convenience of having them fresh for cooking. Jalapenos also do very well in pots and the squirrels leave them alone. They can also be chopped up, dehydrated in the freezer, and used later.

If one is determined to grow tomatoes one could fence the area in on all sides. It doesn't seem worth it to me but I feel for those with "squirrel rage" and recommend this for those willing to eat them: http://www.gamowhisper.com/ As much as I don't like squirrels and love shooting; it would take a lot of squirrel eating to pay back the $300 investment but money isn't everything...

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I grow herbs and tomatoes. Unfortunately, my little fuzzy neighbors, the squirrels have eaten all the tomatoes. Anyone have a recommendation for keeping the squirrels away?

Posted on: 2008/9/26 4:41
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Re: Jury says Jersey City must pay owners $18.6 million for land it seized through eminent domain.
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Good for them. A majority of other states (not NJ or NY) have banned the use of eminent domain to seize property from a private owner and hand it over to another private owner. The incentive for corruption when one private entity can get the government to give them an involuntary good deal on someone else's property is obvious.

The attempt to seize the Flamingo diner and the Golden Cicada failed, hopefully this will too. I find the argument that the property is ten years away from being developed mystifying - how is that an argument for seizing it now or ever?

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Jury says Jersey City must pay owners $18.6 million for land it seized

Jersey Journal
by Ken Thorbourne
Tuesday September 23

Byron SmithWarren Drilling operates its business on land that was seized by Jersey City through eminent domain.

The last chunk of property needed to be acquired for the Liberty Harbor development in Downtown Jersey City just shot up in price -- way, way up.

A jury sitting in Superior Court in Jersey City on Monday awarded Ronald Kerrigan, his wife Lynn, and his sister Katherine, $18.6 million for their 3.4-acre holding at the foot of Jersey Avenue, according to city officials and the family's Florham Park attorney, William J. Ward.

But it could be a while before the Kerrigans can count their riches.

Before the day was out, Jersey City Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Robert Antonicello said his agency -- which seized the property through eminent domain -- is appealing the award.

"This property is at least 10 years away from being developed," Antonicello said. "There is not even a street there."

The city's last offer for the property, which has views of Manhattan, the Statue of Liberty and Liberty State Park, was $3.8 million.

The deed to the property -- which is rented to Warren George, a drilling operation -- has already been turned over to Peter Mocco, the developer of Liberty Harbor, officials said.

And Mocco has more than a passing interest in the outcome of this compensation case.

As part of his redevelopment deal with the city, he is on the hook to reimburse the city legal fees and acquisition costs for any property being taken for the Liberty Harbor project, officials said.

Mocco was mum yesterday about the jury's award.

"This is being handled by the JCRA," he said. "I think it is inappropriate for me to make any comment."

Posted on: 2008/9/25 1:00
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