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Re: Incident at Hamilton Park
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Where does it say that the cops were not called or called?

Everyone is just jumping to conclusions AGAIN.

Jersey girl thanks for posting. I will be more cautious since I tend to go out late at night.
When I read the email that I was sent It made me feel ill to think that I was out in that area right around the same time.

Posted on: 2010/1/21 3:41
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Re: Incident at Hamilton Park
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Yes, please notify HP residents that a woman pretending a black man with a voice changer is running amok so she can gain access to condos to case them out.

The simplest explanation is generally the most likely.


Dont go jumping to conclusions or forming opinions to fast. You never know.
Kind of like the famous be-headed doxie!!!

Posted on: 2010/1/21 2:56
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Re: Incident at Hamilton Park
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Dont really know the answer to any of the above. All I can say is the person that sent me the email is very reputable. Anyways who cares...... It never hurt anyone to be alittle more cautious.
If it is true do you actually think you would see a differance in the way they patrol Hamilton Park?
I am going out to walk my dog now, I will let you know if I see a voice altering jackass.

Posted on: 2010/1/21 2:54
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Re: Periodontist
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Yes. Dr. Michael Toffler
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Posted on: 2010/1/20 22:15
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Re: Incident at Hamilton Park
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What did the cops say? Because if no one called the cops don't bother posting this kind of stuff.



Jersey Girl is relating an incident told to her by someone else. There's a good chance she has no more information than she posted. Because she doesn't know if the incident was reported or doesn't know what the cops said she shouldn't post? So now you determine who can post and who can not.

If only I were so lucky. Why not just post the email that was passed around?[/quote]


Here is the original email:

Dear neighbors: a resident of the Hamilton Park Condos passed the following msg to me.

Be careful and alert especially if you are walking alone in the evening. Do not get engrossed in your cell phones or I-pods. Pay attention to your surroundings!

Please be sure to report any incidents to the Police Department radio room. 201-547-5477 program that # in your cell phones. It goes directly to our JC radio room whereas 911 may go to another county depending on your area code and the nearest cell tower.

Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:01:32 +0000

Hi XXXX,

. I thought that I should let you know that at 8:30pm tonight, there was a distraught woman downstairs in the entrance. She said that she had been chased by a black man in a ski mask while she was walking her dog. As she described, the guy was changing his voice when he was talking to her by using some sort of speaker device. We stayed with her until her husband picked her up. She said she lived in the area.

Please notify other residents and to be alert when walking alone.

Posted on: 2010/1/20 22:11
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Re: Eyebrow waxing/styling
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Walkers Apothecary is great for eyebrows!

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I second Walkers. it is on Mercer

Posted on: 2009/12/9 21:27
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Re: Murder @ Paulus Hook Towers
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UGGGGHHHHH Yes Murder is Homicide but there IS a differance in charges. WHATEVER....
Go to jail for life or go to jail for 10 years. WHATEVER.
While you are at it google.... The differance between murder and homicide.
Homicide is not always illegal, murder is.

My thoughts are with the family and friends, and I hope this case is solved soon

Posted on: 2009/12/9 20:18
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Re: Murder @ Paulus Hook Towers
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Ho Hummm..... I think if the Husband did indeed kill the wife there would be intent there which would make the charge murder not homicide. I was responding to the post above my post.
Even though dead is dead there still is a differance in charges

Posted on: 2009/12/9 20:00
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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again, i'd encourage you to have some positive experiences with bully breeds, which you should have already if you are involved with rescue/shelters etc. .


I am lucky enough to have had nothing but positive experiences with bully breeds.

on the other hand i have been both bitten and scared by a chihuahua that weighed aprox. 4 pounds. But that has never been my point through out my posts here.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 19:47
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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phdog, I think we need to agree to disagree. Yes i have had hands on exp. with bully breeds and have in fact lived with and grown up with a bully breed during my youth. I have not a single thing against them. My problems are with the people that they are adopted out to or that they are acquired by. Go back and re-read my posts. If an owner is indeed trained and educated in the proper handling of a pit bull terrier than he/she would never put their dog in a situation that the dog could potentialy become dangerous in. Once again set up for failure. Just beacuse you ( not you per say) own a bully breed does not make one an expert. It just means you know your dog SOMEWHAT. I think we are both on the same page just have alittle different views on certain things. I respect your opinion immensely, but I also feel that as human beings there is always room for more knowledge on any subject.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 19:43
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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"Even when a pit bull is challenged by a group of humans it will not retreat. "



Anyone that has any real experience working with or training dogs will completely disagree with that statement. And i'm not talking about people who taught thier golden retriever to balance a cookie on thier nose or roll over (though both are cool tricks).

Again, this is not only false but a sweeping generalization. Its very apparent that although you claim to be a dog lover you know very little about pit bulls aside from what you read in the jersey journal or jclist. It is also somewhat arrogant to speak in (incorrect) absolutes as you are doing. I'd encourage you to come to your own conclusion through experiential learning. there are people in your community who are very involved with the breed in terms of general welfare/rescue, training and competitive sports.


and none of them would make excuses for a dog that displays unwarranted aggresion.


Not only am I involved in my community, I am also involved in rescue and shelters. I speak from both knowledge, opinion and fact. Do YOUR research. When a pit bull attacks it is almost impossible to stop the attack. You have to either kill the dog, badly injure it or your life could be in danger. The breed requires a solid foundation. Irresponsible owners make for a dangerous animal. Like i said in my earlier post, an irresponsible owner sets the breed up for failure.
Just beacuse you disagree with me, it does not make me wrong. I do not "claim to be a dog lover" I am a dog / animal lover and advocate. I also am able to seperate my feelings and thoughts from facts about certain situations.
Yes Aurrora i think your dog is cool, and I also think the beagle is cool too.

Posted on: 2009/12/9 5:21
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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"It is unfortunate that one of the original purposes of the Pit Bull was dog-to-dog combat, but this is a fact that can't be denied or ignored. It is very important that every potential Pit Bull owner understands the selective breeding that took place to make the dogs of today and the inherited characteristics that are potentially within this wonderful breed.

Pit Bulls are phenomenal animals that deserve a chance to have a good life like any other dog. However, it is important to remember that Pit Bulls are not just any other dog?they are a little more of everything a dog can be".

I think the key is they deserve a chance to have a good life.

Pit Bull owners need to have common sense and to make sure they do not set their dogs up for failure by putting them in the wrong situations.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 19:19
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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what I don't understand - and will never understand - is how, with the countless number of dogs languishing in shelters, anyone would want to have a potentially lethal dog in their home.

other dogs may bite more often, but when did you last see a headline about a 70-year-old woman losing half of her face to a chihuahua?

I know that most pit bulls are sweet, and that 99.5% of pit owners will never experience a problem with their pet. but when there is a problem, it's with a dog that has a devastating bite.

why on earth would you take that chance? is your pit bull really *that* much more awesome than the beagle in the cage right next to it?


On most occasions when these labeled bully breeds end up in a shelter the ?adoptive owner? will never find the true history of the dog and is adopting a potentially dangerous animal. I go back and forth with my thoughts on this situation and have often asked myself if I (an animal lover and advocate) would ever bring home a rescued pit bull terrier from the shelter. I have had the opportunity on numerous occasions but have always chosen not to because of other animals in my home and the fear of THE UNKNOWN, (history of the animal) and the potential that the rescued pit bull terrier could kill me and my pets. I am very grateful that there are people out there that do rescue the said animals, but also feel that any person that rescues a bully breed should be made to go thru a somewhat intense training and handling procedure before the animal is released to them. Of course that would require funding and etc? But it may make it a safer environment for both pet and owner.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 18:50
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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This is not only completely false hearsay but it (redirection) is inherently MORE common in other breeds. think about the purpose of the dogs i stated and the situation in which they were used.

ALL dogs fight, it is a natural behavior. our pets are attacked by poorly managed animals regardless of breed. is a poorly handled pit bull more likely to kill another dog as opposed to a poorly handled chihuahua? yes. but the owners of both have the same responsibility to control their animal.

I am in complete agreement with you that people are crazy for putting the life of a dog before that of a person and I also agree that the owners of these dogs should be held criminally responsible.


Communities are ill equipped to deal with wild animals capable of unstoppable aggression. We are also ill equipped to deal with dogs that demonstrate the same trait. Even when a pit bull is challenged by a group of humans it will not retreat. Wild animals, on the other hand, have self-preservation instincts. They usually flee when confronted in the same manner.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 18:41
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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dogs that fight other dogs and dogs that bite people are rarely the same animal. for 150 years organized dog fights required 3 people (2 handlers and a ref) to be in close quarters to the 2 dogs fighting. a dog that was prone to biting a person was a liability that was not acceptable and therefor removed from the gene pool.

maybe something else will make thins interesting...


Fighting breeds are inherently animal aggressive. Because of this trait, these breeds regularly attack our pets. Pit bulls are the most notorious for this crime, a crime that often goes unpunished. Advocates of these breeds say that animal-aggression does not lead to human-aggression. Yet, it nearly always does: a pit bull attacks a person's dog and the dog's owner gets injured trying to stop the attack.
I have nothing against bully breeds or bully breed owners. I understand how easy it is to turn your thoughts for a split second and have something go very wrong. It can and has happened to mothers with their children. I cannot however understand how anyone can put a human life secondary to that of an animal. This woman is suffering critical injuries at 70 years old. The person caring for these dogs was/is negligent. She needs to be charged with something. I don?t care if it is a pit bull terrier or a tiny Chihuahua once it causes those injuries it is deemed dangerous. I am a pet owner myself
(2 dogs and a very large cat). If one of my animals injured another human being to that capacity unfortunately and oh so sadly it would have to go down asap.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 16:18
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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How's this getting interesting? Where's the indication that these dogs were trained to kill, fight, or attack?


Ho Hummm. Read the above article. I believe it is titled dog fighting/neglect incident. CONVICTED. IF it is the same Jason Reid than well use your imagination.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 3:15
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Re: 70-year-old must have provoked pit bull attack, dogs' co-owner tells shelter official
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I am assuming if a dog is trained to kill, fight, or attack then the dog would be considered a deadly weapon.. This is getting interesting.

Posted on: 2009/12/8 2:55
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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It wouldn't be attempted murder because murder requires intent. This may be recklessness, required for manslaughter, since one would assume she didnt see the dogs jump the fence. Whether or not this is considered reckless would depend on the states laws and whether or not that recklessness is enough for a manslaughter charge would also depend on the states laws. I would find it unlikely though. At worst, I would expect a charge of Negligent Homicide, and even that would depend on the circumstances and states law.

Note that a civil suit, where the victim sues the dog owner for their injuries, depending on the state, they might only have to prove that it happened, not that there was any intent, recklessness, or negligence. That's called strict liability and in some states if you get injured with a deadly weapon, that's all you have to prove. now the question is???? Is a Pit Bull considered a deadly weapon in NJ?

Posted on: 2009/12/8 2:44
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Re: Woman, 70, in 'life-threatening but stable' condition after being mauled by pit bulls
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christ on a cracker, I hate this thread. i want to pee on this thread. i am currently trying to vomit on my keyboard hoping it somehow morfs into cyber-puke and goes all over this thread.

i hope all you pit bull deniers get bit by a chihuahua tomorrow whereas immediately after, your pit bull eats the chihuahua and then vomits it back up on your favorite pair of shoes when you get back home.


Oh my.... Please go outside and breathe some polluted air. It sounds like you are in the middle of a meltdown... Poor thing.

Posted on: 2009/12/7 1:59
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Re: New Resturant on Erie
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WOW... Bless JClist. How did it get to this... I just asked about the space.
Yes Vlad is a jackass, his brother is now in a hospital, Vlad beats people in the street, he once untied my dog from his fence while i was inside Basic and i almost killed him... BUT, I really just wanted to know about the space. I really don't think he is going to be involved in the resturant. From further investigation i found out that an Egyptian man is going to be opening up an Italian resturant. I am sure that some one on here will ofcourse have something smart to say about that!!!!!

Posted on: 2009/12/7 1:51
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Parkside Bistro - Hamilton Park - CLOSED
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Does any one have any info on the new resturant/store/?? that is opening on Erie ( next to Basic). I see alot of work being done there and it looks like there may be a resturant opening up soon.

Posted on: 2009/12/6 20:47

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Re: Downtown JC Churches - Reviews
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I'm toying with the idea of attending church, although I'm agnostic. I admit, the economy is getting me down and I'd just like to go somewhere and feel uplifted. It also sounds like a nice way to meet more people in the community. If there were a Unitarian Universalist church in downtown JC, that's where I'd go. Since there isn't, what are people's thoughts on the different churches downtown? What is the minister like and the congregation mix? I am considering going to either Grace Van Vorst or OLC.

Thanks!


Admittingly I am turned off by all organized religion so I must ask why a church? There are so many things that you could do that would be ?uplifting? and help connect you to your community. How about volunteering at a battered woman?s shelter? YWCA battered woman?s shelter.
( 201-333-5700)
How about a homeless shelter? 201-420-1070? I know that when I leave those places after volunteering for a few hours I feel great about myself, and I feel that I have given back to people that are down and out at this time.
Just a thought....

Posted on: 2009/11/30 5:43
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Thanks for all the work you guys do. I wish that I could be more active in my community but at this time it is simply not feasible. Look forward to actively participating in the near future.

Posted on: 2009/11/17 5:42
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Re: Downtown -- Best Bar for Singles?
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The singles are not my type ( human)
I preffer when the bar actually blows their tap lines and washes their glasses in soap.
Other than that, Yea it has charecter (s).
Sorry if i offend anyone. This simply is IMPO



i prefer when characters know how to spell, and stuff...


just my thing.


you're making some claims against the bar as if you know them to be true.


what ever i cant spell, so what. Apparently you can't read. I said IMPO ( in my personal opinion) And i have made these claims beacuse i have been there... numerous times. Hello is there anything functioning as a brain in that head of yours?

and umm wern't you the one that mis spelled Cicada in the first place????
Go have another draft beer maybe your brain will function.. What ever

Posted on: 2009/11/16 2:03
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Re: Downtown -- Best Bar for Singles?
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yeah yeah yeah....big spelling miss right there.


went to the CICADA last night, and karaoked my ass to all hours


not a singles bar, but it SHOULD be.


it has character...never noticed the draft beer being anything but good draft beer.


The singles are not my type ( human)
I preffer when the bar actually blows their tap lines and washes their glasses in soap.
Other than that, Yea it has charecter (s).
Sorry if i offend anyone. This simply is IMPO

Posted on: 2009/11/15 22:07
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Re: Downtown -- Best Bar for Singles?
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i'll tell you straight up, golden secada is the best bar in this town.


everyone should go there.


cheap drinks, GREAT FOOD, free wi-fi, nice people, and the crowd is just weird enough.


i'm loving this place.


great place to watch local football games.


NO, NO, NO, on the best singles bar. It actually can't get any worse than this place. But yes it is a very cool old time JC local bar

Posted on: 2009/11/14 1:59
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Re: Ode to my lost home/ My first posting in 11 years of living here
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I moved to Jersey City in 1998.
I moved to Jersey City in 1998 from Europe in order to work in New York City and to escape the pretense of the Big Apple.
Eleven years ago this was a \"down to earth place\". It was \"uncool\" to live here by Manhattan standard. That was exactly what I was looking for.
The last thing I wanted was uninspired white American middle class taste and the culture of entitlement that seems to be favorably exercised by millions of citizens in this country. By complaining about minor BS like toddlers about missing toys.
JC List is a wonderful example.
I never have moved to an area before and expected the area to change for me. A lot of Americans seem to have a different take on that.
In 1998 \"Hard Grove\" was a Cuban Cafe. Not the copy of


I am sure you can find some where on this earth where time stands still. Maybe a little cottage in the backwoods of some non white preppy way of life?
May i ask why you are still here if you are so unhappy?
Are you also unhappy with modern technology? Do you still use a payphone, record player, etc?

Posted on: 2009/11/14 0:49
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Re: Big Trouble On Little 8th Street
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It's always such a pleasure to walk by them in the morning on my way to work. Dont know what is worse... These guys or the language from the kids at St. Anthony's.

Posted on: 2009/10/9 18:30
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Re: Movie being filmed in downtown?
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I thought it was pretty typical. not bad. Done pretty well actually.

Cheaper to film in jersy that's for sure

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Re: Wanted: Crossing Guard; Qualifications: Must Know How to Cross Street; Salary: $31K/year
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Crossing Guards make no where near as much as a police officers. They do not work year round, they do not have details and they do not work overtime. They are there there simply to make sure the kids are safe when they are going to and from school. I dont give a hoot what they make they are needed. And as for the comment about them standing around on the corner, i assume waiting for the kids is part of their job. Alot of people are confused in thinking their job descriptions include stoping the traffic and crossing adults. It does not. They are just being nice when they stop the traffic for adults to cross.
Their job is to protect children from the crazy maniac drivers that are in Jersey City.

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