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That is the point I am trying to make. You have some (not all) that think if a crime did not happen next to a condo or brownstone it is not a concern in their neighborhood.
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Re: Greenville: AFTERSCHOOL KILLING - Teen dies in barrage of bullets near park
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I think seven or eight.
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The neighborhood you are thinking of isn't Downtown you are right, it is Lafayette south of Grand with the caged in houses. The only places to live on that side of the turnpike that is 07302 besides Booker T and New Houses is this little tree lined community north of Montgomery that doesn't have gates on there porches. It looks more like an isolated suburb since it consist of mostly duplexes with driveways and/or garages. The people that live there call it Downtown too. Google map it, that area isn't just the projects and a housing complex it has working class homes that some people forget or don't know exist.
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Bust 4 young thugs in holdup
Thursday, April 23, 2009 By MICHAELANGELO CONTE JOURNAL STAFF WRITER Four 12-to 14-year-old Jersey City boys have been charged with using a fake gun in an attempted robbery of a 13-year-old who was walking home from school Tuesday evening. Arrested at School 14 on Bayview Avenue at about 5:30 p.m. were two 12-year-olds, one of Neptune Avenue, the other of Bartholdi Avenue; a 13-year-old Morton Place boy, and a 14-year-old Garfield Avenue boy, reports said. They were charged with robbery and weapons offenses, reports said. The victim told police that at about 5:05 p.m. the four boys approached him at Bidwell and Ocean avenues and one of them asked if he had said something disrespectful about the "Park Side" street gang, reports said. The victim told them he hadn't said anything about the gang and tried to leave, but he was grabbed by the 14-year-old, who told him to "run his pockets," reports said. Then the 12-year-old Bartholdi boy pulled out what turned out to be a replica gun and threatened to strike the 13-year-old with it if he didn't give up his bicycle, reports said. But the four boys ran when they spotted a police cruiser. After interviewing the victim at his home, police drove the area with the boy and his mother and the victim recognized the four boys at the school, reports said. The four boys were arrested and the replica gun was found in a garbage can lid nearby, reports said. Park Side is a street gang based in the southwestern part of Jersey City, reports said.
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No, it is a block from the last block of MLK. It is between Danforth and Cator. Arlington Park is a couple blocks from Communipaw. Triangle Park is not really even a park it just a couple patches of grass, trees and a bench or two in the middle of a few streets that intersect.
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Re: 50 arrested in raids throughout Greenville and Lafayette sections of Jersey City
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You are right. That is the reason they never made public the amount of drugs, it probably wasn't much considering it was 50 arrest. I bet out of the 50 only a handful even have serious enough charges to see any real time. The majority probably had low bails and some probably didn't even have a high enough charge to see a county jail. It is just a show they put on, grab as many people as you can and let the prosecutor worry about the charges sticking later. These arrest have more to do with quantity then quality arrest. The arrest aren't even related to the gang war that has been in the paper the past month. That is where they should focus.
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I know it is I meant to say North. My point is that area is and always was Downtown some of the newer residents that don't want there neighborhood to be associated with the Booker T projects and New Houses (housing complex near Booker T) like to say it isn't Downtown. The same people usually try and say the same thing about the area around Holland Gardens. I bet if these areas were bulldozed and were packed with condos or brownstones they would all of a sudden be considered Downtown again.
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I like how people try to be sarcastic or correct grammar when they don't have a decent response. I didn't know this forum was secretly a test on grammar. Saying East was a mistake on my part but regardless you understood what I meant to say. When the bridge was up for the embankment in the 90s would you have not considered the section to the North of it as Downtown? I say this because walking under a bridge or turnpike doesn't change the borders of the neighborhoods of this city. Downtown is the name for the neighborhood down the hill from most of the city. I also know you are being sarcastic again but Chilltown is the nick name of this city and has been for about 30 years.
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Its officially called Downtown! Downtown is called Downtown because it is down the hill from most of Jersey City. That area has the same zipcode, ward, police precinct and school zone as the rest of Downtown. If its because its on the other side of the Turnpike would that mean if the bridges of the embankment was still up you wouldnt consider everything east of it Downtown?
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Just sell it, there worth over a million problem solved. Now stop acting like an idiot I doubt you even come close to needing any help from this organization.
Posted on: 2009/4/20 23:50
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GrovePath wrote: Terrible -- but it is the other side of the turnpike - up towards the Beacon and the housing projects -- as anyone who reads the news knows there have been many problems like this in this area. I hope they get the shooter(s). They might also want to check out who owns those two cars that were shot up.
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Shots fired near Little League practice in Jersey City; coaches dive over kids to protect them
by Charles Hack/The Jersey Journal Monday April 20, 2009, 3:40 PM Shots fired on Bright Street near the Gateway Field in Jersey City had Little League coaches diving on top of kids to keep them safe Thursday evening, police confirmed for The Jersey Journal today. Police were called to a housing complex on Bright Street between Merseles Street and Florence Street on a call of shots fired at 6:08 p.m. while the Roberto Clemente League had two teams of kids ages 7 to 14 practicing. No injuries were reported, and no arrests have been made, police said. An unoccupied silver Honda parked on Bright Street had two shots fired into its rear bumper and the tires were shot out of a white Bronco that was also parked and unoccupied, Jersey City Police spokesman Lt. Edgard Martinez said. According to league officials, coaches dived on top of kids while other children stood around not knowing what to do. One coach told the Journal he was standing on the mound of the fenced-off field with his team of 10 players ages 10 to 14 gathered around him for a huddle, when he heard a pop sound. He then heard what he realized were multiple gunshots and began yelling at the kids to drop to the ground. "I was terrified,'' the coach said. "It is one thing to help yourself but when you've got 10 kids you are looking out for it is terrifying." Shell casings were recovered from the scene in front of 272 Bright St., Martinez said. As for the league, they're not interested in returning to Gateway. Danny Rivera, president of the Roberto Clemente League, said he has instructed coaches to suspend playing there until a new location can be found.
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I was wondering what many people on here think about gentrification? Are you for or against it? What do you feel are the positives and negatives of the gentrification of Downtown?
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It could be the turkey, but if you sure its a pheasant there are wild ones that live by the train tracks and Liberty State Park.
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Change a few of those street names around and you just desribed Hoboken.
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I do like the fact that GrovePath is always posting the news articles here. I like to read what comments other locals have. I still do read all the stories on NJ.com anyway but that is because he doesnt post every article I would like to read. It seems he sometimes purposly leaves out articles that I know other people on here would like to read or comment on. Thats no big deal though because usually me or a few others just post them when we see he left them out.
I only wish he would learn the streets and neighborhoods already, he has lived here long enough. lol
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Much of what your using for arguments are exaggerations and generalizations. Did you know there are a large amount of illegal immigrants that pay income tax and sales tax? Did you know there are illegal immigrants fighting in Iraq in the US military? Should these people go back too? The health care argument is valid but not the part about them draining the prison and welfare system that is Americans. A very small percentage go to prison or use welfare. The whole point of giving them instate tuition is they will be more likely to go to college and then be able to get a higher tax paying job. In all the other states this is in place the student has to prove they went to an instate high school in the last 3 years and graduated. They can not receive financial aide and have to pay there tuition. Using the fact they got here illegally as your primary argument is not a good one since it is only a misdemeanor. Its like saying any teen that ever shoplifted should not get instate tuition. Something I'm sure you can agree with me some what on is I think all illegals that commit felonies or are repeat offenders should be deported. Both our Canadian and Mexican sides of the border should be better protected. The part I don't think you will agree on is that if they pay taxes they can stay as long as they aren't going to commit felonies. They really aren't stealing American jobs as much as people would have you think. When was the last time you seen Americans standing at the pick up spots construction and landscaping companies use? It is not like these spots are hidden or are secrets.
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Im not saying that the girl definitely is a prostitute. Those hotels on Tonnelle are used by the area teens and people there 20s for mini drinking parties. I think she was either murdered or had a overdose and the person with her got scared and left. It could be anything though. I guess we will find out either tonight or tomorrow if she was murdered or not.
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When they had the quarter system carts were still being stolen. It was common to find carts blocks away with the chain and key used to retrieve the quarter cut so they could get the quarter with out putting the cart back. The quarter system didnt work to well I guess that is why they got rid of it.
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What does a wolfpack look like then?
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CITY HALL PLANS FOR CUTS AT JCPD
5% trim might mean no new cops for year Tuesday, March 17, 2009 By AMY SARA CLARK JOURNAL STAFF WRITER The president of the Jersey City City Council might have bad news for community groups clamoring for more cops on the streets. City Council President Mariano Vega Jr. asked police brass to plan for a 5 percent cut in their 2009-10 department budget at a Feb. 26 public hearing. "I'm predicting next year's economic conditions are going to be bad. If that's going to happen we should look at what we can do," Vega said during a follow-up interview. The recession is likely to lead to a drop in Urban Enterprise Zone, hotel and parking tax revenues, he added. Vega said he plans to make the same request of all city departments. Although he agreed that reducing crime is a major priority, Vega said the only way to significantly reduce spending is to cut personnel. "The rubber hits the road with the Police and Fire departments," he said. "That's where all the money is at." Roughly 75 percent of the money the city spends on its employees it spends on police and fire personnel, officials have said. At the hearing, Police Director Samuel Jefferson said the cuts could be made up by government grants. "But in the worst-case scenario, it would be two cycles (or one year) of not hiring a Jersey City cop," Jefferson said. In a statement, Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy called the suggestion to reduce municipal spending by 5 percent "a valid one." But he added: "We will never reduce funding for public safety. We will continue to maintain the same, or greater, level of service in the Police and Fire departments to protect the lives and well-being of our residents." Earlier this month, city officials learned they would receive a $1.83 million grant from the federal stimulus package through the Department of Justice - money that would be used "to maintain the current level of service of public safety," Healy said. In 2008, the police budget was $91 million, or 19 percent of the city's overall $475.7 million budget. The proposed 2009-2010 Police Department budget is $101.5 million, or 22 percent of the $460.2 million proposed total budget. There are currently 893 police officers in Jersey City, according to city records; that's roughly 100 more than when Healy took office in November 2004.
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I doubt you would know what a "wolf pack" looks like. Knock out is a game played through out the city. I have seen and heard of kids that were involved in it of all different races, sizes, ages,personalities and styles of dress. Even people that I went to high school with that have done it you would be surprised that they all dont fit your profile of a young criminal. Some of them I heard today are Marines, Police officers, and some even work on Wall St. I have seen the police follow large groups before but if they arent committing a crime while being watched there isnt much the police can do they arent going to follow them all day.
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This sounds like the "game" knock out that is popular with kids and teens with something to prove to there friends. It has been around for a long time. They just go a round and try to knock out any person they come across. They are usually in groups of 5-30, it has been getting more violent over the years. I doubt though it would be Montgomery and Booker T projects together considering the bitter rivalry between the two projects have with each other.
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I used to come across them often over 10 years ago. The area surounding the Jersey ave light rail stop behing the Boys Club used to have a good amount of them before it was built. I used to see as many as 6 different ones some times, dozens of rabbits, ground hogs, garter snakes, salamanders and brown snakes. That area was also invested with ticks.
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A few years ago I remember seeing alot on the corner of Nelson and Leonard and seeings a sign taped next to it with a threat on it for the dog owner that the writer claimed to know who they were and where they lived. It was funny to read but you can tell the person that wrote it was serious. When I went by there after that I never saw anymore dog sh*t so I guess it worked.
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Those are the two places I have heard of being haunted the most in Jersey City. Back when I was a student at Dickinson HS there were always stories that the unused tunnels that go under the basement were haunted. A few people have reported strange sounds and have had some sightings in the tunnels. Im not sure what the tunnels were for I always thought it might be an old bomb shelters for the HS. The strangest story I ever heard regarding ghost is from one of my friends that has seen a ghost that looks exactly like him a few times in his house on Columbia ave in the Heights. He claims the ghost looks like a real person and not see through like in the movies. That is just creepy to me.
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I can agree with you on that they should get the max penalty. If they are tried as adults just off the fact it was felony murder they will be looking at 25 to life. It wouldnt surprise me if one or two were tried as juveniles in exchange for testimony against the one or ones that dealt the fatal blows that caused his death but that would depend on how strong of a case the police have. Like if the witness couldnt identify them most likely someone would be offered a deal. I think they will be made an example out of though.
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I did, it doesnt change what he was trying to say. Did you read what I said "Im not saying the crime couldnt be hate motivated, I am just saying there is no reason to jump to that conclusion just based on the suspects race."
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There are always going to be people that jump to that conclusion. That doesnt make it a hate crime even if the suspects are of a different race or ethnicity. The crime has to be motivated by hate to be a hate crime. Most of the group robberies and teens playing "knock out" choose random victims. It has more to do with the victim being in the wrong place at the wrong time then anything.
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That wouldnt mean it was a hate crime. A crime against a different race or ethnicity doesnt make it a hate crime. If they targeted him because he was hispanic or used ethnic slurs during the beating then it would be. They could have picked him at random. Im not saying the crime couldnt be hate motivated, I am just saying there is no reason to jump to that conclusion just based on the suspects race.
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