jackp wrote:
Thanks, I just joined Glad to see an interest group forming as I have never seen driving as bad as what I experience in this city.

thor800 wrote:
Recently received a Notice of Violation from Division of Housing Code Enforcement for sidewalk repairs required and getting the run around from the various city agencies (Buildings, Housing Code, Traffic & Engineering, etc).

Has anyone recently had to deal with this ?

asny10011 wrote:
No one is following rules and rules are not being enforced.

i see many drivers who go beyond the speed limit on busy streets in downtown JC (i.e., Columbus, Montgomery). Recently, I even saw one make an illegal right turn on red near the postoffice on Montgomery, whilst a traffic cop was in front of them and cop did not stop or do anything.

I also see dumb pedestrians crossing against the light while busy texting. Those are the inattentive ones who deserve to be hit. Crazy people everywhere.

Monroe wrote:
Red light cameras (championed by Whizzy, who got a lot of $ from the red light camera companies) died after the trial period showed little or no improvement of safety-but the towns LOVED it because they sucked up the cash from tickets.

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OneSkirt wrote:
Agreed, but as previously explained NJ state has outlawed both red light and speed cameras. So not an option right now. But enforcement is.

Which politicians are responsible for killing these initiatives? Pressure needs to be put on them, too.

mfadam wrote:
a few months back someone did a time lapse video at jersey and York. It got quick attention and was used on the local news.

Good video can get attention especially when it is embarrassing to the City

anonymess wrote:
I complained to the city about a month ago about drivers routinely going through the stop sign at LSP, the corner of Phillip St. and Johnston. It's very dangerous for pedestrians/cyclists going into or out of the park. The employee said he would send a police car out to observe. I'm not clear what good that did or could do, but the situation is the same.

I also volunteered to take videos of drivers going through the stop sign. I was told that videos by the general public are not admissible.

However, if enough of us did this and posted it online and to Fulop - assuming it's legal, it may have an effect. Or maybe I have my rose-colored glasses on.

ThirdStreet wrote:
As a driver, I have to say the prevailing "pedestrian can do no wrong" attitude doesn't help solve the problem at all. I see a lot of pedestrians with earbuds, crossing when they're not supposed to, taking their sweet time getting across. I think there has to be a multi pronged approach where Jay walkers are actively treated as as driver not yielding to pedestrians.

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OneSkirt wrote:
We've been trying to get the clear data you are seeking from the JCPD for awhile now. The record keeping isn't great.

Seriously? They can't tell you how many moving violations were written?!!!

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Actually, its a long held fact that once one crosses into Bayonne via JFK Blvd that you need to slow down to the speed limit or get busted for speeding. Why? Because they have always had solid and consistent enforcement in Bayonne.. Its not that hard to do and we should be demanding it from our City.

Where would one find stats to back this up? Like traffic tickets per officer or per capita? Clearly our neighbors to the N & S have better enforcement. Of course one expects the JCPD to respond "we have more crime to deal with and don't have time for traffic". Hence my proposal for a traffic division.

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Sully wrote:

You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

Yes.

The driver could easily have been driving at 30 - 35mph, and thrown the pedestrian 50 feet. Cars have a large amount of mass, and pedestrians do not. That's still speeding, but also very typical speeds not just on JFK, but on similar roads pretty much anywhere in the US. I see people drive like that all the time in the 'burbs.

http://www.mcnallyassociates.com/onlinetools/speedfromthrow.htm

Plus, I still haven't seen data suggesting that the pedestrian/cyclist fatality rate in JC is disproportionately high. If anything, that seems to be a national issue, not a local one.

I.e. suggesting that drivers suddenly lose their minds once they cross the city border does not appear to be justified.


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I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

You really shouldn't ride on JFK. Or expect the city to put real bike lanes onto JFK.

One of the goals of bicycle routes is that it encourages cyclists to avoid the roads with faster and more auto traffic.

I highly recommend you find a parallel route.

kencares wrote:
Fulop neither cares about improving traffic safety nor does he have the knowledge or skill set to do so.

We need a new mayor who truly cares about the safety of Jersey City's residents.

corybraiterman wrote:
For those rhetorically asking about crossing in the pathway and speeding, if you look at the pictures, the dude's hat and sneakers are in the middle of the intersection. This means he was probably in the crosswalk. If you're struck by a car, clothing on your extremities are subject to whiplash and tend to get knocked off right away (although the other major opportunity for that to happen is during impact with the ground, so that is a possibility). http://i.imgur.com/NkleEfD.gif for a much tamer version of this.

Also, in order for the body itself to be thrown "50 feet", the driver had to be going at a significant rate of speed, probably well over the 25 speed limit.

Obviously no idea bout crossing against or with the light because no one has any idea on that, but you can figure out the answers to two out of those three posits.

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brewster wrote:
like ticketing those at 4th & Marin who cross against the DON'T WALK

There's no crosswalk on 4th and Marin. You mean 3rd? Because that entire crosswalk area is a giant shitshow in every possible way

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Monroe wrote:
JC has drivers who don't know how to drive, pedestrians who don't follow traffic rules, bikers on the sidewalks, no one obeys traffic signs and lights.

Everyone is to blame.

I agree that all parties contribute to what can be a chaotic environment on the roads, but it's drivers going 20, 30 mph over the posted speed limits that are responsible for DEATHS in these cases.

You think this guy hit by the cab would fly 50 feet through the air if the cab were driving the speed limit, or close to the speed limit?

I walk or ride my bike on JFK 7 days a week, and it is terrifying.

Yvonne wrote:
Deaths on Kennedy Blvd increase when the county at the urging of then mayor Schundler asked the county executive to eliminate the county cops. They patrolled Kennedy and Tonnelle to stop the speeding.

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hero69 wrote:
i think more speeedbumps throughout the city would help...even on kennedy and columbus

I've said before we don't have a roadway engineering problem that requires more speed bumps and multiway stop signs, we have an enforcement problem, because there's no credible deterrent to scofflaw driving. As that recent video showed, no one stops at stop signs, so more of them are useless. The cops don't ticket, the red light cameras fell to a political campaign against them, and we never had speeding cams, which would have been awesome for JFK.

I propose a new Traffic Division in the Dept of Public Safety. NYC has this. Get people out there giving tickets and they can pay for themselves. There can also be a "human traffic cam" program, Traffic Officers with cameras, able to stop anywhere and record scofflaws. It might even make sense to make those tickets "no points" like the fixed cam ones, no need to pull anyone over, just stand there at a corner and record. Same for speeders. We have this technology, hi def cams and the whole website thing where you see yourself caught cold.

Lets think outside the box rather than make every street in JC a row of speed bumps and every intersection 4 way stop. Hoboken functions fine without them, likely because they have cops that actually enforce.

hero69 wrote:
i think more speeedbumps throughout the city would help...even on kennedy and columbus

GlitterQueen wrote:
There are multiple issues that need to be addressed along Kennedy. The drivers are a problem as are the pedestrians. I do not know if this person was crossing in the crosswalk or when they had a red light but Kennedy and the streets that run parallel have a huge issue with jaywalkers. The drivers drive way too aggressive and way to fast and a lot of people just wander into the middle of the road bc they don't want to walk to the crosswalk and wait for the light.

The walk signs need to turn to walk when the light goes red, the drivers need to slow down and stop blowing red lights (ticket the drivers), and people need to use the crosswalk and not cross against the light. JFK is super busy and I see people jaywalking with children!

Oh and we NEED Bike lanes on JFK and people please don't ride your bike against traffic it is do dangerous. I ride down Bergan bc JFK is too dangerous and I don't like riding on the sidewalk. Bergan can still be sketchy between the aggressive drivers, the busses, the double parking, jaywalkers, and bikes riding against traffic.


The safety issue is more than just the drivers.