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Healy is a chicken.
Posted on: 2009/3/28 11:43
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Don't jump to conclusions. It was his mothers rent money.
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You hit the nail right on the head.
Posted on: 2009/3/22 20:45
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Re: Political Insider: Healy fundraiser was filled with drama, but was there enough cash?
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In case you haven't noticed Jersey City is run by a bunch of drunks. Can Healy be disappointed in the same behavior he exhibits? To answer your question as to what he'll do about it; he'll have another beer.
Posted on: 2009/3/18 20:50
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Re: Property Taxes: Mayor Healy vows to fight state-imposed school tax hike
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"The way we interpreted the statute is that we did not receive the adequacy aid and as a result we are not required to exact any additional levy on the taxpayers".
Mayor Healy It don't make a whole lotta difference Mayor how WE interpreted the statute. If the state is not giving the money then WE the people are going to have to make up the difference. Chalk up another successful tax hike for our Mayor.
Posted on: 2009/3/18 20:41
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Re: Green plastic Healy beer pails - such a treasure 3.18.09 Political Insider from JJ
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Mayor Healy once sued and lost when Bret Schundler started mailing out Schundler propaganda with our tax bills. Now Healy has seemed to go Schundler one better. Not only does Healy use the same mailing of Healy propaganda with our tax bills but he uses city equipment in this case the Incinerator authority trucks for his own personal use. Remember the story about his re-election announcement where he surrounded himself using the fire apparatus and police cars. Dont forget his use of police personnel in his mailers etc.
I have a suggestion for you Mayor Healy. How's about using the newly installed emergency loudspeaker system to summon forth on behalf of the Jersey City Democratic Organization (Morlocks) the Jersey City voters (Eloi) to the polls where they can once again be fileted and barbecued to satisfy the endless tax appetite of their Morlock controllers.
Posted on: 2009/3/18 20:23
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Healy tells the public half truths. Even if we accepted his figure of 200 cops hired during his tenure consider this.There were 798 cops (not 788) in 2004. Healy takes office and according to his figures 200 are hired (See latest Healy mailer) which should come to a total of 998. Todays Jersey reports total of 893 cops. Starting with the final figure of 893 (2009 total) minus 788 (2004 figure) means a difference of 105 more than 2004. This is where the Healy math begins the half truths. Healy promoted approximately 75 Sergeants and 40 Detectives during the same period of time which impacts directly on the available patrol force by 115 cops to the negative side leaving a net decrease in patrol personnel of 10 cops. Healy also promised to increase the patrol presence by 15%. Has anyone noticed that increase. Now, Council president Vega announces there will be 5% cut in personnel. I don't know if its just me or is Healys math a little fuzzy or is it disingenuous. There is no way to make Healys figures hash out and I can only conclude that he is full of baloney.
Posted on: 2009/3/18 5:16
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Re: Teen "wolfpacks" engage in beatdowns downtown?
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Please avoid the use of the term "wolfpacks" since Mayor Healy has rid Jersey City of the wolfpacks. The politically correct term now is "pack of hyenas". Thank you for your co-operation with the JC Mayors Commission on Effective Euphemisms
Yours truly; Joseph Goebbels Commissioner of Propaganda 280 Grove St. J.C.N.J 07302
Posted on: 2009/3/16 22:10
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Maor Healy was quoted years ago in the papers when interviewed about some important issue as saying "I don't read e-mails. Believe he spilled his beer in the keyboard or something to that effect.
Posted on: 2009/3/16 21:39
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Re: Hilltop/Island Area: Man accused of trying to break into a home with a pitch fork
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As Geraldine said "The devil made me do it, ooh baby ooh.
Posted on: 2009/3/13 22:12
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Re: We can thank our Mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City
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Chances per capita per 1000 of becoming Murder victim JC is .10% as opposed to NYC .08%.. Higher by .02% in JC.
Posted on: 2009/3/12 23:53
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My suggestion would be for him to go pee in an electrical outlet. Vote anybody but Healy.
Posted on: 2009/3/12 23:15
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The silence is deafening isn't it? (Figuratively speaking)
Posted on: 2009/3/12 22:32
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Re: We can thank our Mayor for the crime problem in Jersey City
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Jersey City Crime Rates DATA DESCRIPTION FIND A REALTOR Jersey City Crime Data CRIME INDEX 16 100 is safest -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This city is safer than 16% of the cities in the US. city Annual Crimes VIOLENT PROPERTY TOTAL 2,894 8,271 11,165 annual crimes per 1,000 residents 12.06 34.45 46.51 Violent Crime Comparison per 1,000 residentsNATIONAL MEDIAN 4.7 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM in Jersey City 1 in 83 in New Jersey 1 in 282 12.06 3.55 Jersey City New Jersey Jersey City violent crimes Population: 240,055 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT REPORTED TOTAL 23 71 1,418 1,382 RATE PER 1,000 0.10 0.30 5.91 5.76 United States violent crimes Population: 296,410,404 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT REPORTED TOTAL 16,692 93,934 417,122 862,947 RATE PER 1,000 0.06 0.32 1.41 2.91 Property Crime Rate Comparison per 1,000 residentsNATIONAL MEDIAN 34.3 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM in Jersey City 1 in 29 in New Jersey 1 in 43 34.45 23.33 Jersey City New Jersey Jersey City property crimes Population: 240,055 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT REPORTED TOTAL 2,044 4,445 1,728 RATE PER 1,000 8.52 18.52 7.20 United States property crimes Population: 296,410,404 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT REPORTED TOTAL 2,154,126 6,776,807 1,235,226 RATE PER 1,000 7.27 22.86 4.17 Crimes Per Square Mile 671 61 Jersey City New Jersey NATIONAL MEDIAN 49.6 About Jersey City crime rates The crime rate in Jersey City is considerably higher than the national average across all communities in America from the largest to the smallest, although at 47 crimes per one thousand residents, it is not among the communities with the very highest crime rate. The chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime in Jersey City is 1 in 22. Based on FBI crime data, Jersey City is not one of the safest communities in America. Relative to New Jersey, Jersey City has a crime rate that is higher than 90% of the state's cities and towns of all sizes. However, compared to other communities of similar population size, Jersey City has a crime rate that is noticeably lower than the average. This means that for comparably sized cities all across America, Jersey City is actually safer than most according to NeighborhoodScout's exclusive analysis of FBI crime data. The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined. Now let us turn to take a look at how Jersey City does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in Jersey City. For Jersey City, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout's analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in Jersey City is one in 83. Significantly, based on the number of murders reported by the FBI and the number of residents living in the city, NeighborhoodScout's analysis shows that Jersey City experiences one of the higher murder rates in the nation when compared with cities and towns for all sizes of population, from the largest to the smallest. NeighborhoodScout's analysis also reveals that Jersey City's rate for property crime is 34 per one thousand population. This makes Jersey City a place where there is an above average chance of becoming a victim of a property crime, when compared to all other communities in America of all population sizes. Property crimes are motor vehicle theft, arson, larceny, and burglary. Your chance of becoming a victim of any of these crimes in Jersey City is one in 29. Jersey City Real Estate Agents Jersey City Crime Rates DATA DESCRIPTION FIND A REALTOR Jersey City Crime Data New York Crime Data CRIME INDEX 33 100 is safest -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This city is safer than 33% of the cities in the US. city Annual Crimes VIOLENT PROPERTY TOTAL 12,217 34,523 46,740 annual crimes per 1,000 residents 7.75 21.90 29.65 Violent Crime Comparison per 1,000 residents NATIONAL MEDIAN 4.7 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM in New York 1 in 129 in New York 1 in 224 7.75 4.46 New York New York New York violent crimes Population: 1,537,195 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT REPORTED TOTAL 125 313 5,344 6,435 RATE PER 1,000 0.08 0.20 3.39 4.08 United States violent crimes Population: 296,410,404 MURDER RAPE ROBBERY ASSAULT REPORTED TOTAL 16,692 93,934 417,122 862,947 RATE PER 1,000 0.06 0.32 1.41 2.91 Property Crime Rate Comparison per 1,000 residents NATIONAL MEDIAN 34.3 MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A VICTIM in New York 1 in 46 in New York 1 in 47 21.9 21.09 New York New York New York property crimes Population: 1,537,195 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT REPORTED TOTAL 5,252 25,032 4,238 RATE PER 1,000 3.33 15.88 2.69 United States property crimes Population: 296,410,404 BURGLARY THEFT MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT REPORTED TOTAL 2,154,126 6,776,807 1,235,226 RATE PER 1,000 7.27 22.86 4.17 Crimes Per Square Mile 1647 175 New York New York NATIONAL MEDIAN 49.6 About New York crime rates New York has an overall crime rate of 30 per 1,000 residents, making the crime rate here near the average for all cities and towns of all sizes in America. According to our analysis of FBI crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of crime in New York is 1 in 34. How does New York fare compared to other communities in New York of all population sizes? New York's crime rate is lower than approximately 20% of New York communities. However, NeighborhoodScout analyzed all cities and towns in America with a similar population size to New York, and we found that the crime rate in New York is one of the lowest in the nation for its size. This means New York is one of the safest places in America in which to live for its size, a very important finding. The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the seven offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies, and include both violent and property crimes, combined. Now let us turn to take a look at how New York does for violent crimes specifically, and then how it does for property crimes. This is important because the overall crime rate can be further illuminated by understanding if violent crime or property crimes (or both) are the major contributors to the general rate of crime in New York. For New York, we found that the violent crime rate is one of the highest in the nation, across communities of all sizes (both large and small). Violent offenses tracked included forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. According to NeighborhoodScout's analysis of FBI reported crime data, your chance of becoming a victim of one of these crimes in New York is one in 129. Moreover, the rate of property crime in New York ? burglary, larceny ($50 or more), grand theft auto, and arson ? is 22 per 1,000 residents. This is about average for all cities and towns in America of all population sizes. New York Real Estate Agents As you can see from the above statistics provided by a neutral source it is safer to be living in NYC than to be liviing in JC. Per capita per 1000 residents JC violent crime rate of 12.06% vs NYC violent crime rte of 7.75%. Non Violent crime rate JC 34.45% vs NYC 21.9%. Total crime rate JC 46.51% vs NYC 29.65%. Jersey City is safer than 16% of cities while NYC is listed as 33% safer on a scale of 1-100 with 100 being the safest. In 1997 Mayor Healy took out a full page ad and sent out identical mailers lambasting Bret Schundler because Jersey Citys Crime rate was higher than New York Citys. It said that Schundler kept putting out phony crime statistics and that based on the above Schundler should be replace by Healy. Well guess what Mayor Healy. Things have come full circle and crime in JC is still higher than in NYC. Based on your own reasoning and news paper ads shouldn't you be replaced? Isn't whats good for the goose good for the gander? This is like deja vu all over again!
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Another bad guy that didn't hear about Mayor Healys successful gun buy pack program. Extra shell casing was probably left over from last shooting.
Posted on: 2009/3/12 20:53
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Another bad guy who didn't hear about Mayor Healys successful gun buy back program.
Posted on: 2009/3/12 20:50
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Re: Political Insider: Healy fundraiser was filled with drama, but was there enough cash?
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I wonder how many drunks left this party and got home without incident. Newspaper reports indicated there were hundreds of people there. Most DWIs actually get home in one piece. I can't imagine what a threat to public safety an event like this causes. Statewide stats show that one in ten drivers on weekends are legally intoxicated.
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Far better off with no one steering the ship than with one of this administrations drunks.
Posted on: 2009/3/10 3:34
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Do I detect a little bit of sarcasm in your post? The point is exactly as you sarcastically stated in your post. Yes the bad guy would still have found a gun with or without Mayor Healys gun buy back program. Furthermore bad guys do not turn in their guns for the $50.00 buyback price that they are offered. The gun can get them much more than that. The gun buy back gets mostly guns from people who have them stored away in the backs of closets, have had them left to them through the death of a significant other or have somehow acquired them and are looking to get dispose of them without getting into trouble. The bad guys dont care if they threw them into a vacant lot for some kid to find. Studies on the effectiveness of police programs and methods of crime prevention were reviewed by researchers Sherman, Gottfredson, MacKenzie etc. in 1997. They found that mobilizing the community to fight inner city crime, GUN BUY BACK PROGRAMS, and block watch programs do not work. Of course in light of these findings what does our administration do but adopt them. Thank you Mayor Healy.
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Problem is that here in Jersey City they are expected and not the anomaly. The trouble starts at the top and is permeating a good deal of the administration. It is only a problem when the average resident makes the same "mistdake". Please do not infer fom this post that I am suggesting that drunk driving is acceptable behavior for either group, only that some groups think that they are immune from the consequences of their actions.
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Passed Cornelison and Florence the other day another street shrine set up. A really scary place to be after dark.
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Another example of Mayor Healys successful gun buy back program.
Posted on: 2009/3/9 20:53
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"I don't lie" "I didn't fight with the Bradley Beach cops" "I'm innocent" "I wasn't drunk, I was having a diabetic reaction" "Crime is down" "Taxes are stable" "I don't read e-mail" "There was no nepotism in hiring my cousin" Please Mayor Healy spare us the B/S!
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Saturday, March 07, 2009 in the street A Jersey City man was shot in the stomach yesterday afternoon on Martin Luther King Drive. The 19-year-old victim, a resident of Armstrong Avenue, was on the street at about 4:30 p.m. yesterday when a stranger approached him and shot him for no apparent reason, police said the victim claimed. As the gunman fled, he attempted to discard the gun under a parked car, but it bounced off the vehicle's side and landed in the middle of the street, witnesses told cops. The gun was secured by the Rev. Ronnie-Calvin Clark, who kept other people on the scene from touching the weapon until police arrived, police spokesman Stan Eason said. The Greenville victim was listed as being in stable but critical condition at the Jersey City Medical Center, Eason said. Police are recovering fingerprints from the gun and are looking for a suspect, Eason said. Clark is a candidate for City Council in Ward F, which includes MLK Drive. "I was standing there in front of 348 MLK greeting some of the business owners and the shooter dropped the gun right in front of me," Clark said. "This is why we need change in the community." RON ZEITLINGER SERGIO R. BICHAO Another success story for Mayor Healys successful gun buy back program.
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Candidates' politics of crime stats stirs public Wednesday, March 04, 2009 By AMY SARA CLARK JOURNAL STAFF WRITER About 300 people crowded into Christ the King Catholic Church last night to protest Jersey City's crime rate and hear what mayoral candidates plan to do about it. For the most part, the candidates - Phillip Webb, Daniel Levin, Assemblyman L. Harvey Smith, former Assemblyman Louis Manzo and Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy - touted similar ideas for crime prevention: more cops walking the beat, better cooperation between cops and the community, and the need to bring more jobs, youth recreation programs and drug rehabilitation programs to Jersey City. The speakers were all enthusiastically applauded after their five-minute presentations. The one area of disagreement was statistics, with rally organizers citing statistics showing that crime has gone up and Healy using other statistics to show it has gone down. "There was not a drop," said Raquel Sharper, of the Communipaw Avenue Block Association, which organized the rally with the Central Avenue Special Improvement District. Sharper pointed to such statistics as a 33 percent increase in gun-related crime between 2007 and 2008, and a 24 percent increase in burglaries during the same period. Healy countered that between 2006 and 2007, violent crime overall dropped 13 percent, and dropped 8 percent between 2007 and 2008. Manzo used the discrepancy to go on the attack. When asked his plan for improving crime prevention, he said: "I will stop manipulating crime statistics, because we are only fooling ourselves." Manzo was met by boos and hisses from the audience and a retort from Healy, who turned to the candidate and said: "Mr. Manzo, I don't lie." After the speeches, rally attendee Aleah Gathings got the mayor to promise that he would fully implement, "ASAP," the "Operation CeaseFire" model, a statewide anti-violence program that emphasizes cooperation among law enforcement agencies, community outreach, and crime prevention through initiatives such as job training. He also said his State of the City promise to increase police on the street by 15 percent between 3 p.m. and midnight would begin within days. Afterwards, rally attendees said they were impressed by all of the candidates, but no one in particular stood out. "They were all very good, and they all came from similar perspectives," said Kathleen Washington, a 61-year-old Bergen-Lafayette resident who works in marketing and communications. "It was even," agreed Norman Williams, a 45-year-old author who also lives in Bergen-Lafayette. "The mayor said we have programs and the candidates said we need more, so they kind of met in the middle." Other news accounts report that the audience in addition to the residents the audience was augmented by numerous city employees. This might explain the reports of boos and hisses. Healy has historically brought his own portable audience with him to applaud him and to boo and hiss at who ever his opposition might be.
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Glad you said "pack of hyenas" rather than "Wolf Pack". Everybody knows that Mayor Healy got rid of the "Wolf Packs" about a year ago.
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5 arrested; cache of drugs, weapons found at building Friday, March 06, 2009 By MICHAELANGELO CONTE JOURNAL STAFF WRITER A Hudson County corrections employee was arrested on numerous drug and weapons charges yesterday after Jersey City cops busted down the door of a suspected drug dealer and found the officer in bed with him, officials said. Fifty bags of suspected heroin, a 9mm handgun, a bulletproof vest and a samurai sword and sheath were confiscated from the apartment, cops said. Advertisement A rifle, clips, another handgun and ammunition were confiscated from another apartment in the building when cops smelled marijuana on their way out, police said. Juvenile Detention Officer Terea Lucas, 25, and Muddathir Muhammad, 28, both of Fulton Avenue at Kennedy Boulevard in Jersey City, were arrested at about 2 a.m. and charged with possession of heroin with intent to distribute near a school, possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and other drug and weapons charges, reports said. An investigation into Muhammad that's lasted months led narcotic officers to set up surveillance at his house Wednesday night. Officers watched as two vehicles pulled up and the drivers ran inside for a few minutes before driving off, reports said. Police got a search warrant for Muhammad's apartment at 1:22 a.m. after stopping both vehicles and finding drugs, reports said. The cops rang Muhammad's bell, but after getting no answer they busted down the door and got the couple out of bed before finding 50 bags of suspected heroin in an unoccupied child's room, officials said. They also found the bulletproof vest, the samurai sword and - inside a kitchen cabinet - a loaded 9mm handgun, officials said. As officers were leaving the apartment they smelled burning marijuana at the basement landing and found 28-year-old Ralph Durosier smoking a cigar loaded with pot and backing into his apartment, reports said. Through his open door police saw an assault rifle with a scope and a large clip of rounds laying on a sofa, reports said. Inside Durosier's apartment police also found 500 .22 caliber rounds and a revolver loaded with hollow-point bullets, reports said. He was charged with possession of marijuana and weapons offenses, including possession of an assault rifle, police said. Also arrested were the two drivers pulled over before the search: Andre Stafford, 26, of Seaview Avenue at Old Bergen Road, and Rogelio Cooper, 33, of New York, reports said. Cooper was charged with possession of marijuana, while Stafford was charged with numerous drug counts including possession of heroin with intent to distribute near a school, reports said. Guess these guys didn't hear about Mayor Healys successful gun buy back program. The gun epidemic goes on and on and on.
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