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Re: Priced Out of Brooklyn? Try Manhattan
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Sorry but Brooklyn is way colder than Jersy City even it's ghettos.


Totes. I aspire to someday relocate to a hip, artisanal shoebox in Brooklyn for the price of a JC 3-bed with parking, preferably as close to the gowanus as possible if not in the gowanus itself. And if I can't have the gowanus, I'll take Brownsville. Who's with me?

Posted on: 2015/5/28 11:19
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Re: 5.2 M condo is for sale in Hudson County
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Just went on the Market today for 5.2M! It was three units that were combined.

Taxes: $48,824

Current owner's name sounds familiar: MANNING, ELISHA NELSON & ABBY

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The tax bill for an iffy school district makes this a bad deal. It's one thing if 50K/year got you a top shelf school.

Posted on: 2015/5/21 19:16
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Actually, in that regard I give The Gannon some props. They also have street level parking, but it was done in such a way as to not seem so out of place. It is "hidden" behind garage doors (so no gaping holes to stare into) and, as far as I can remember, the doors mesh with the rest of the building aesthetics. Unless you know to look for it, the parking can actually be missed.


Glad to hear. Garages are necessary utilities and should be decorated that way. After all, everyone wants to have good sewer and drainage infrastructure but nobody wants to actually see the stuff function.

Posted on: 2015/5/21 16:33
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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I don't know why more builders aren't following the LHN model where all parking is tucked away.

See e.g., 18Park, Gulls Cove, 225 Grand, 10 Regent, et al. All streetscapes have either retail, housing, or both. There's plenty of parking in all of the buildings for rent or sale. The JC lifestyle is about transit to work with car use on weekends. It's a great alternative to the transit-only life in NYC, which is an appeal unique to JC/Hoboken this close to Manhattan.

Posted on: 2015/5/20 21:08
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Can there really be a bubble as long as interchangeable neighborhoods in Brooklyn, and now Queens, remain more expensive?

With the exception of bi-coastal couples where someone needs a car to get to a NJ job and the other works in Manhattan how often is DTJC just the cheapest choice?


I don't think it's in a bubble. It's just seeing rampant, and long overdue, investment due to a confluence of factors.

- A reversion to the mean in terms of "back to the city" living. The rest of the world doesn't generally have decaying inner cities like the US, in part because the US' experience was spurred by decades of bad govt. policy.
- A secular overall drop in urban crime rates nationwide encouraging urban-o-philes to stay put longer.
- Decent (if not great) transit access to the nearest urban core.
- Proximity to a major global (and growing) employment hub.
- NYC's destination for massive amounts of foreign capital driving up real estate prices across the board.
- Western Queens and much of Brooklyn, the traditional alternatives to Manhattan are getting out of reach for many buyers and renters.
- And even if you bake in a substantial PATH/PA "crappy transit" discount, the nicest assets in JC are trading for approximately half the price of comparably-priced property in Manhattan and parts of Bk. That is a huge arbitrage that *has* to narrow in short order.

Buy and hold I say.

Posted on: 2015/5/19 14:23
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Re: Is 'Gentrification' good for Jersey City?
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Social justice warrior. A particularly lazy variety of limousine liberal, champagne socialist, etc.

Posted on: 2015/5/16 12:12
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Re: Is 'Gentrification' good for Jersey City?
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I love liberals. If wealthy white people don't want to subsidize low income housing for the sort of people that will destroy the neighborhood and ultimately riot as in Baltimore and Ferguson, they are horrible racists and part of the problem. However, if the same white people move into black neighborhoods, they are horrible gentrifiers and also part of the problem. Heads I win, tails you lose.

By the way, this issue is needlessly racialized for political reasons. Truthfully, no one cares if a black Yale law or med or HBS grad moves in next door. However, this isn't what we're talking about. We're talking about public housing and WHOEVER lives there - whether white, black, Hispanic, etc. is going to be problematic. However, they are disproportionately black and Hispanic, so we can pretend that this is a racial issue and not a class one.


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Posted on: 2015/5/14 21:07
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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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Not true. Construction jobs attract folks from far and near -- realtors, builders, electricians, plumbers, truckers, et al. Buildings require ongoing maintenance staff, many of whom are local. Again that's doorpeople, security staff, cleaners, electricians, plumbers, repair work, designers, et al. You also attract buyers/renters, which in turns generates demand for teachers, firemen, police officers, tutors, nannies, doctors. This is basic economics.


?Not true,? isn?t an answer to a question.

Of course development is financially beneficial to many people, myself included since I work in design and construction, but when the Mayor says that he ?couldn?t be more proud of? of job creation in Jersey City in process of glad-handing a developer, I have to wonder where the hyperbole is coming from. After all, reports of the initial proposal indicated that this ~$140 million project will directly create twenty permanent jobs.


I think you're splitting hairs over politi-speak. That's like trying to look for pearls of wisdom over realtor-speak.

Posted on: 2015/5/14 16:06
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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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I can appreciate that large scale residential projects benefit developers, investors, financiers, planners, designers, contractors, and equipment/material manufacturers and vendors?a lot of people who already have jobs, very few of which are based in Jersey City?but can anyone help me understand what permanent, local jobs that are worthy of so much pride are created by them?



Not true. Construction jobs attract folks from far and near -- realtors, builders, electricians, plumbers, truckers, et al. Buildings require ongoing maintenance staff, many of whom are local. Again that's doorpeople, security staff, cleaners, electricians, plumbers, repair work, designers, et al. You also attract buyers/renters, which in turns generates demand for teachers, firemen, police officers, tutors, nannies, doctors. This is basic economics.

Posted on: 2015/5/14 13:05
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Re: Buying "Hold" Properties in JC Ghetto
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Comparing a rundown hood in the heart of Manhattan to a run down hood in Jersey City? Don't even start.


There's an Astor Place in JC on the border of Be-La and McGinley Sq. Assuming OP is referring to that one.

Posted on: 2015/5/13 13:36
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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A recent discussion on RetailWire.com explored Whole Foods Markets? new found success targeting secondary markets with smaller stores.

Whole Foods first began testing stores under 40,000 square feet in 2008, down from its traditional 50,000 to 70,000 square-foot boxes. Finding success with some as small as 25,000 square feet, the strategy was accelerated last year as part of its bold expansion plan to reach 1,000 stores.

The six new stores opened during its fiscal first quarter ended Dec. 31 averaged 38,000 square feet, yet produced a 29 percent higher sales per square foot ($776) versus the prior year?s new store quarter?s openings. New stores also produced about 450 basis points higher store contribution versus last year?s class, and in many cases benefit from lower build-out costs, lower rent, and lower utilities and taxes.

Smaller Stores


WFMI "stumbled" upon Trader Joe's model. Well done.

Posted on: 2015/5/7 16:19
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Re: What's going there?
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The A-1 Deli space on Grove! What's going in there? New desks and phones right near the windows.


If I had to guess, another real estate office!


Walked past it the other day. Appears to be street-level offices for NJ.com. That could be interesting. If I'm not mistaken, they own the Jersey Journal, which in turn put the "Journal" in "Journal Square."

Posted on: 2015/5/6 18:41
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Re: Bad idea to buy property near embankment?
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Hi,

I'm considering buying a house near the jersey city embankment. The property has a small backyard that juts up against the embankment wall. I like the privacy it gives the house, but is it a major gamble to buy over there (given that the future of the embankment is in question?)

It's nice and quiet there right now, but the idea of a busy/loud park overlooking my bedroom in say 10 years sounds pretty unsavory. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


DTJC is one giant RE play even with higher recent term pricing. We have an administration that's very bullish on development and an incoming demographic that is reasonably supportive of it. The DTJC-Western Queens/BK discount is still substantial.

Buy now, sell in a decade. You'll probably hit a wall on pricing as our current appreciation rate abates, but so long as you have the cashflow and the stomach for a near term price plateau or even a price-drop, you should be in for a win as that park gets developed.


Posted on: 2015/5/5 13:25
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Re: Downtown JC to Sandy Hook via public transportation
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Spring Lake is great, but there are very limited amenities. I'm not sure they even have public bathrooms available.


Not true. They have brand new and well kept bathrooms on the boardwalk. Visited 3 times last summer. Stay close to the pavilion toward the north end of the beach.

Posted on: 2015/5/4 0:43
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Re: Downtown JC to Sandy Hook via public transportation
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I know you said public transportation only, but the nicest beachtowns are probably best accesssed via car. Consider getting a 1-day rental from Hertz et al. They have lots of good deals. And if doing so, consider Spring Lake. Very family friendly, great clean beach, lots of parking.

Posted on: 2015/5/3 23:42
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Re: lawyer for new condo purchase
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Jeremy Scanlon of Gess, Gess & Scanlon.

Posted on: 2015/5/3 23:39
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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And cash is not a game for civilians, at least around here. Most people don't have half a mill sitting around. Out in flyover where you can buy a SFH for $25k, maybe. I've thought about doing that with my IRA.


You'll be surprised how much civilian money is sloshing around DTJC and Hoboken right now.

Posted on: 2015/5/1 15:43
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Re: $aint Peters Prep
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Was chatting with an alum, albeit a grad from 12 years ago, who spoke very highly of the place. Thinks it churned out, and still churns out, great thoughtful human beings. As an engineer, he faulted the quality of their computer instructions, but that was well over a decade ago. He couldn't vouch for their current hardware situation. Given private school prices in DTJC, and considering the size and quality of their campus and athletic programs, I'd say it's a relative bargain.

Posted on: 2015/5/1 15:33
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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We need to enact a 100% tax on non-resident property sales in Jersey City. The Australians, Chinese and other foreign investors are making it impossible for young families to buy anything in JC.


The funny thing is some may call your statement xenophobic, but other countries have even stricter policies. China for example, makes it nearly impossible for any foreigner to buy land there.

Of course, the flip side of this is it will lower property values, as you are now telling the property owner he will have to accept lower offers than he otherwise would have gotten. It's a tricky balance, but I agree the foreigners are buying up much of the good American properties, leaving many young Americans in the dust.


As an owner, I take the opposing view. It's good for my investment for there to be more competition amongst the buyer pool. And the proposed reg. does nothing to prevent straw person transactions where title is held in the name of a US citizen, while the funding comes from abroad. We also lack the ability to monitor such straw man trades.

Posted on: 2015/5/1 15:06
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Prices continue to trail Brooklyn and Queens and appear reasonable compared to those areas.



So long as DTJC is still at a discount to Queens and Brooklyn yet continues to offer up newly-built property at a rate higher than either of those two boroughs, I think we're in pretty good shape and will continue to hold values. Yes we're not on the MTA subway, but we offer other compensating amenities, namely plenty of (yes private) parking, proximity to a major international airport and the interstate, lower overall taxes (no NYC income tax which offsets the higher NJ/JC property tax situation esp. for 2-earner households), a slower pace of life, and improving retail offerings. I'm optimistic in both the short and the long term.

Posted on: 2015/4/30 20:36
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Prices are artificially inflated due to an extremely low quantity of inventory for purchase, as somebody else noted earlier. There are bidding wars on mediocre properties. There really is very low inventory, for sale. Does anybody know why there is such a reluctance to build condos in these new high rises, as opposed to making them rentals? There is obviously ridiculous demand for condos.


I recall reading a while ago that condo construction financing had dried up post financial crisis. Rental construction money was the only game in town and also happened to coincide with a massive uptick in rental demand. We're seeing that bump come to a close and condo financing and construction is making a comeback.

Posted on: 2015/4/29 2:39
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Prices are artificially inflated due to an extremely low quantity of inventory for purchase, as somebody else noted earlier. There are bidding wars on mediocre properties. There really is very low inventory, for sale. Does anybody know why there is such a reluctance to build condos in these new high rises, as opposed to making them rentals? There is obviously ridiculous demand for condos.


I recall reading a while ago that condo construction financing had dried up post financial crisis. Rental construction money was the only game in town and also happened to coincide with a massive uptick in rental demand. We're seeing that bump come to a close and condo financing and construction is making a comeback.

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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Same thing gets said about manhattan year after year yet demand stays high and vacancy is low.

Re: DTJC real estate, which is extremely different than other parts of JC, it is not a bubble. If you compare luxury high rises, 1brs in DTJC are going for the same rental prices as studio apts in manhattan, 2brs in dtjc are around the 1br pricing for manhattan.

When such a bargain still exists, there is much catching up to do..


I don't understand why you think this is a "bargain." Jersey City is an inferior good to living in Manhattan, and you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think otherwise. If you could get a comparable place in Manhattan, then I would immediately sell my JC home and acquire a similar property in Manhattan on Central Park or Riverside (two parks that are better than anything JC has to offer).


You're missing the point.

First, there's DTJC, and there's the rest of JC. The two are very different and have evolved differently. It's a bit like UES and Spanish Harlem. Close but far apart.

Second, DTJC is appealing precisely because it's not Manhattan. You can have your space, a car, quiet, some decent retail, and some transit. I liken it to a mix of Brooklyn and Queens and heckuvalot cheaper than both, with better quality and newer real estate.

The folks attracted to DTJC are often seeking a more affordable, lower scale, but proximate alternative to Manhattan, who found Brooklyn too costly.

Posted on: 2015/4/28 21:53
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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You got me, I only read half of the "Tipping Point." - That being said one may not realize a trend until well after.

Yes, the current net inflow of people clearly exceeds the outflow. My question is, what is happening to young families that are either currently or pretty close to outgrowing their 1 or 2 bedroom apartments. I wonder if there is a hidden trend that people are not focused on.



You're presuming that all young families can't afford larger homes. Many who choose to settle in DTJC are quite well-funded through some combination of family help, high personal incomes, and large savings bases to fund large down payments. Many buy, some rent, all can generally absorb the high costs.

Posted on: 2015/4/28 14:41
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Re: Newark airport monorail targeted for scrap heap, cost $354M to build
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One of the biggest problems with the current monorail is that it wasn't designed for cold weather operation. For some reason nobody thought this would be a problem. When it first opened the switches would freeze and I think even the computers would crash in the cold.


Or maybe, we should just call the PA what they really are, the Keystone Kops. Bumbling, incompetent and corrupt.

Posted on: 2015/4/28 14:04
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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Let's also not forget that white flight and urban decay was set into motion by federal housing policies that subsidized suburban home ownership and tolerated redlining.

Today you have the opposite issue. Everyone is attempting to rebuild new urbanist living. NJ in particular is very forward in what they call transit-oriented development.


Posted on: 2015/4/28 11:34
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Re: Is Jersey City Real Estate in a bubble?
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People are throwing the term "bubble" around pretty loosely here. If prices are rising rapidly, that doesn't make it a bubble, it just makes it a hot market, which could be caused by demand outstripping supply. It's only a bubble if the rising prices are baseless and fueled by speculation/flippers/etc, which I don't think is the case.

Many people are moving to JC from Manhattan and/or parts of Brooklyn where prices are also rising very rapidly, and by comparison, JC still looks like a good deal. Now whether Manhattan real estate represents a bubble, that's a very real possibility, since so much of it is buoyed by international buyers looking to stash cash. If that bubble bursts, then the outlying areas will be similarly affected.


+1. There are many well-compensated people working in NYC. Many choose to live in JC for obvious reasons around income taxes and property prices. There are also many offshore buyers seeking investment properties. All that has a knock on effect on pricing. This isn't a debt-fueled situation unlike pre-2007. Lots of all-cash deals here.

Posted on: 2015/4/27 14:14
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Re: Tilted Kilt - Pub & Eatery (&boobs) - CLOSED
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I think the Breastaurant fad is over.


Doubt it. You just can't be running out 4's and 5's and draw the clientele you want.


Good one! So true. Had they chosen hotter staff, it'd be a different story. I still wouldn't want that type of joint in my building but would have also appreciated the commercial logic.

Posted on: 2015/4/17 6:55
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Re: The $3,000 apartment, Asking (and getting) big rents is another sign the Gold Coast is booming
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What we should want to be is an alternative to ridiculous rental prices in Manhattan and Brooklyn.. not hell bent on matching them.


The only solution to high prices is, and with apologies to Sarah Palin, "Build, baby, Build!"

Posted on: 2015/4/15 17:19
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The $3,000 apartment, Asking (and getting) big rents is another sign the Gold Coast is booming
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http://www.njbiz.com/article/20150316 ... 69993/The-$3000-apartment

By Joshua Burd, March 16, 2015 at 10:45 AM

You don't need to be a real estate expert to know that multifamily on the Gold Coast is white hot.

And you might not bat an eye at the thought of a unit renting for $3,000 a month.

But when that's the average asking rent for all of Hudson County ? the county that makes up a major chunk of this booming market ? it might be time to go back and take another look.

With the county projected to reach that benchmark next year, experts say it's just another resounding sign of just how hot the Gold Coast is. And that's an average that includes less-expensive parts of the county, meaning rents along the waterfront are even higher ? bringing the number up to the $3,000 mark.

It's why insiders see no signs of a slowdown in the near future when it comes to competition among developers and investors seeking to cash in on the market or plant their flag there.

?I don't see anything that's going to derail it at this point,? said Jose Cruz, a senior managing director at the brokerage firm HFF, who notes that there are ?plenty (of buildings) where it's pushing $4 (per square foot),? which translates to $4,000 for a 1,000-square-foot apartment.

?It has a positive effect all the way around,? said Cruz, who is based in HFF's Florham Park office.

Average asking rents for Hudson County have grown every year since 2009 ? when they were just above $2,500 ? and are projected to top $3,000 in 2016, according to the New York-based research firm Reis Inc. And the firm projects that trend to continue through 2019, with average annual growth of about 2.4 percent during that period.

Those projections may be tempered by an influx of new options ? HFF tracks a pipeline of more than 10,500 new units through 2018, from Jersey City to Fort Lee in Bergen County ? but experts say demand from renters is almost eye-popping. Look no further than The Art House in Jersey City, a 119-unit property that was delivered last year by The Shuster Group and leased nearly 100 of its 119 units in three months.

Or the 11-story Warren at York, developed by Millennium Homes, which was 50 percent leased within a week of opening.

That pace is enough to catch the eye of developers and investors when they're gauging a market, said George Vallone, president of Hoboken Brownstone Co. After all it's one of the ?three key metrics? they look for when it comes to multifamily development.

?The first is, 'What's it going to cost you?' The second is 'What are you going to rent it for?' or 'What are you going to sell it for?'? said Vallone, the incoming president of the New Jersey Builders Association. ?And the third ? equally important ? is 'How fast is the market going to absorb it?'

?And the absorption rate on rental product in Jersey City has been nothing less than spectacular.?

All this adds up to a market that is only becoming more attractive to developers and investors ? one where development sites are increasingly scarce, experts say. That has forced real estate firms to both be creative with finding property and explore other neighborhoods away from the waterfront.

That's especially true in places such as Hoboken, said David Gaber, principal and chief financial officer of Bijou Properties. The firm in 2013 opened a 35-unit, six-story building known as Edge Lofts in the northwestern edge of the Mile Square City ? the neighborhood's first new residential building in recent years ? and leased up the property in about four months.

Bijou is now constructing two other buildings in Hoboken, a 135-unit project on the city's western edge known as 900 Monroe and a 212-unit, 12-story tower toward the northern end known as Park + Garden. But finding additional sites is not quite so simple.

?We're always looking and we have a few other development sites where we're in the entitlement process,? said Gaber, whose firm is based in the city. ?It's very competitive. When there is a development site that comes up in Hoboken, everybody's looking at it, everybody's bidding on it ? so the price has gone up substantially just over the last year or two.?

The competition is being felt up and down the Gold Coast, experts say, and it's becoming especially heated as well-heeled institutions increasingly look to break into the market. That's one driver for another budding trend by investors: acquiring older properties and renovating them to add value.

Cruz pointed to two recent examples from last year: JP Morgan Chase's acquisition of the 240-unit Curling Club Apartments in Hoboken and Pantzer Properties' purchase of the 351-unit Crest at Fort Lee. The deals, which both topped $120 million, were made by buyers who plan to make modest upgrades to interior units and common areas in order to achieve higher rents.

?This is the hybrid between the stable deal and the new construction,? said Cruz, who brokered both deals.

The challenge with such ?value-add? opportunities is simply finding them, he said. But he noted they could still become a growing option simply because, on the Gold Coast, buildings could be ripe for repositioning much sooner than in other markets.

?I think today that demanding renter on the waterfront wants a very nice apartment,? he said. ?And to the extent that the apartments are five, seven, 10 years old, the renter that's willing to pay more for location wants a very nice place. ? They'll pay more to have a renovated unit.?

E-mail to: joshb@njbiz.com

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