I've also been considering buying in DTJC.

However in the below discussion, two big assumptions I've seen to note...that a) a Park will be built. b) houses will be worth double in ten years? Really? Do we have new information?

really a comparison with some links to some old articles from theawl.com - interesting old JC articles.

http://www.theawl.com/2014/12/the-32- ... -order-from-worst-to-best

Absolutely agree on Edwards

I'm out for biz dinners a lot and often at Steakhouses. Over the last ten years or so, I've enjoyed Edwards as much as many of the famous NYC steak spots.

Great people working/running it as well.

Not sure of this, but is the AIDS crew affiliated with whomever was tagging "AIDS" all over personal property in JC for years?

If so, good to see the AIDS crew putting their energy to more constructive, positive initiatives.

Fintan's had an incredible recent run:

http://www.streetartnews.net/search/label/Fintan%20Magee

like most art, I like some better than others. one of the key benefits is that when a mural goes up, much of the tagging stops. tagging = vandalism...shitty graffiti is what I cannot stand.

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Fintan Magee...its called "remembering the clouds" and it looks even cooler when the lot is full of cars.

He's a great guy as well.

http://www.fintanmagee.com/

http://www.streetartnews.net/2014/08/ ... membering-clouds-new.html

http://www.complex.com/style/2014/09/ ... -august-2014/fintan-magee

couple questions/comments:

How does Tender Shoot Farm on Newark, Lee's on Grove and the other produce/flower stand up by Palace Liquors/Pharmacy feel about organic, farm fresh produce and fruit being sold twice a week down the street?

Truthfully, the only prepared food spot I've ever purchased from is Legal Beans BBQ b/c their brick and mortar location is further away. Seems like Golden Grill and Legal Beans realize the foot traffic is important and that not everyone walks up Newark Ave, Grove etc and put together a mobile stand in a great area. Works for them...

Also, with respect to the Bistro Owner - the dude is local and knew that the market has been there for years...this was not a surprise.

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I'm not thrilled with the actual operations, marketing and or ownership of the Coffee Shop, Bistro, Wine Bar etc...but I am happy that there are operating businesses where vacant stores were (save for Caldwell Banker). Also, about 15-20 years ago - getting off the PATH at 1am at Grove street presented far more frightening scenes in that "plaza!"

My hope is that now since those buildings are opened, renovated and operating with liquor licenses, perhaps current ownership will look to sell (like the did with York Street and Powerhouse Lounge) and we get more diverse, creative options in that space.

In general, with so many articles and discussions comparing Brooklyn and Jersey City, I do not think I have ever seen an article that correctly points out that a better comparison might be Brooklyn to Hudson County (Hoboken + JC, etc.)...not that the population is even that close between King's County and Hudson.

The pizza spot going into the old Sava Polish Diner is going to be called Alex's - they have menu's printed up and I believe they told me they should be opening in a week or so.

Here is what I found online:

https://www.grubhub.com/nyc/alex-pizza ... lian-restaurant-grove-st/

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Was at the Biergarten on Saturday and it was tons of fun. Probably the best time I've had there - great crowd for World Cup.

...just wish they figured out a better system for the food.

Not sure if this has been linked/posted:

http://gothamist.com/2014/05/08/toxic_waste-killing_plants.php

Controversial "Alien" Plant Species Are Fighting Toxic Waste At Liberty State Park
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(courtesy Frank Gallagher)
Bayonne-born ecologist Frank Gallagher remembers sneaking into railroad cars and diving off the docks a half century ago at what is now New Jersey's Liberty State Park, just 2,000 feet across the bay from the Statue of Liberty. The park now inspires a different sort of awe in the Rutgers University professor: native and non-native plants have formed unique communities that actually prevent toxic materials from spreading through the soil.
These "novel assemblages," as Gallagher calls them, are found in the innermost 100 of the park's 1,200 acres. Not only do the plants appear to keep contaminant metals in the soil from moving about, they stay in the soil and out of the plants? leaves so they are not ingested by birds or other animals.
The process by which plants secure toxins and prevent them from moving about is known as phytostabilization, a subspecialty within the field of phytoremediation, a discipline concerned with using plants to improve the environment.
Stephen Ebbs is a plant biologist at Southern Illinois University and the co-editor of The International Journal of Phytoremediation. Ebbs says that while using plants to improve the environment is centuries old, contemporary phytostabilization ?uses the right plants and some basic soil management strategies [for example, adding fertilizer] with the end product of keeping the contaminant from moving where it is in the soil, either moving into plants where is eaten by organisms or down out of the soil into ground water.?
Gallagher?s work represents the new frontier for phytostabilization because he works with plants that are already in a growing dynamic: his brand of phytostabilization isn't agriculture, it's ecology.
In fact, at Liberty State Park, different plant species are working together to essentially remediate a site laced with lead, copper, and other metals.
?Very few people look at this vegetation that performs important ecological services as part of urban areas,? says Harvard University urban ecologist Peter Del Tredici. ?Frank is really a pioneer in this area.?
The park is certainly a more attractive place in 2013, in no small part because of Gallagher, who began his work there when he was hired as the park's first naturalist in 1983. "I think it is a very special place," Gallagher says.
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An aerial view of Liberty State Park's rail lines in 1969 (courtesy Frank Gallagher)
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"Low resolution bleak wasteland by the abandoned Central Railroad of New Jersey Terminal. The World Trade Center and Lower Manhattan hover across the Hudson. Jersey City. March 1976." (via Andy Blair)


Liberty State Park was a former industrial dump and railcar termination point for the defunct Central Railroad of New Jersey and the Lehigh Valley Railroad. The trains and nearby industry dumped coal and toxic metals everywhere, and the industrial activity transformed this Jersey City site into an ugly backdrop for the Statue of Liberty. After the trains stopped coming in the late sixties, the area was unsafe for both humans and wildlife.
In the seventies, advocates from nearby Jersey City sought to transform the site into a place of nature and recreation for local residents. By the 1990s, a 1,200-acre scenic park had been established. Restoration at Liberty State Park was more or less conventional, with the removal and capping of toxins.
However, the innermost 250 acres of the site and a small, 36-acre section lagged behind the overall restoration. The 36-acre portion became a restored marshland called the Richard J. Sullivan Natural Area. Engineers had to remove soil riddled with hexavalent chromium, an especially carcinogenic pollutant, and deposit a layer of clay over the less dangerous contaminants.
The restoration of the park's wetlands, finished in 2008, has been successful. Many birds, including 15 duck species that pass along the Atlantic Flyway, now find the park a safe harbor. Gallagher says that this type of wetland restoration usually takes about a decade for all the elements to link. "We established a true wetland situation from the soils, from the plants, and from the fauna in a matter on three to five years," says Gallagher, "all very quickly."
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Abandoned railroad tracks, 1980 (via Steven Siegel)
The final 250 acres of the park posed unique challenges. Developers and politicians proposed commercial developments, such as a water park. Community and conservation groups were able to fend off development attempts by getting involved in the open hearings for the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection's General Management Plan. Gallagher's 100 acres lie within this area.
Greg Remaud, conservation director for the New York/New Jersey Bay Keeper, has worked with Gallagher for 20 years, and he says that conservationists trusted Gallagher and relied upon his knowledge for their understanding of Liberty State Park ecology.
"Frank had identified plant complexes and communities and folks began to realize how valuable that was for the urban natural site and also as a study to look at how a park evolves and at urban soils, and see what we can learn from them." Remaud adds, "We need to learn more about these urban sites instead of covering? or fencing [them] off."
Gallagher is pushing the model even further. Some of the plants in his area of study are non-native and considered invasive. He has noticed that species such as bush grass, mugwort, and sumac, appear very successful at phytostabilization of metals.
"We have gone out and tested the twelve different species of dominant plants and took them apart from roots, shoots, stems, and leaves, and in some cases even fruits," Gallagher explains. "The plants that seem to do well at these sites are plants that deal with the metals by either excluding them at the root zone or, if they take them up, they keep them...sequestered in the root zones. So those are the plants that do well naturally in high mineral soils. Those are the plants we want in include our assemblages because of the services they are providing."
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(courtesy Frank Gallagher)
Gallagher also emphasizes that these new assemblages of plants support key ecosystem processes, such as carbon sequestration and water filtration in addition to offering habitat for wildlife and native plants.
Using alien species for restoration is controversial. Government programs and traditional conservation efforts are typically against allowing these species to grow.
Still, Gallagher's methods have prominent supporters.
Del Tredici points out that Gallagher has demonstrated that these mixed communities can play a very important role in remediating toxic urban sites and at a relatively modest cost. "The land he has been nurturing at Liberty State Park is extremely sustainable," he says.
Ebbs adds a point about ecology: "I think we are realizing an ecological approach with multiple species is often proven to have better results that we would have anticipated 10 or 15 years ago. In fact...letting nature help out is part of what we are also learning."
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These Liberty State Park Sumac plants have leaves turning bright red just before the full autumn season. Sumac are not tolerant of metal-rich soils, so their red foliage indicates metal contamination at least below critical levels. (courtesy Frank Gallagher)
Gallagher feels that his findings at Liberty State Park are especially relevant for urban centers like New York City, where lead and other metals still pose problems. Using plants to extract them from the soils does not work, but phytostabilization can effectively sequester them at certain levels.
Laura Senkevitch manages the Training and Transitional Programs at The Fortune Society, an organization that works with the formerly incarcerated. She oversees an EPA-funded, six-week environmental remediation training program that is an intense overview of environmental health, urban agriculture, underground storage tank leakage, solid waste management, and treatment technologies, including a focus on phytoremediation projects. In 2011, they placed 53 out of 60 participants in full-time jobs with an average salary of $15.20/hour
According to Senkevitch The Fortune Society is working on securing a project in Newtown Creek that would utilize different bioremediation measures, such as using special mushrooms that digest oil spill-associated compounds.
Senkevitch foresees phytoremediation as playing a larger role in small sites, as it's the cheaper alternative to traditional remediation efforts.
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(via Scott Dunn)
To Gallagher, Liberty State Park is an illustration of the dynamic power of nature. Photosynthesis, the carbon and hydrologic cycles, the interrelationship of species occur in the city just as they do in the country, and "novel" ecological assemblages that do not reflect an area's natural history, if properly managed, can help with handling pollutants.
"We no longer should look at what is urban and man-made and what is nature," Gallagher says "but rather we should look at what is green, both inside and outside the urban systems."
Rich Blaustein is a freelance environmental journalist based in NYC
Contact the author of this article or email tips@gothamist.com with further questions, comments or tips.
Gothamist in News on May 8, 2014 12:00 pm

John's Kitchen Cafe is great for Breakfast Sammies...been there a handful of times now and always tasty and feeling.

Nice folks too.

Had some very good meals there over the years...really enjoyed the old school feel with the dance floor, live music and gangster style booths. Was a very nice option in that area of town. Will miss it.

by Vigilante on 2013/12/23 11:37:34

"In any case, I look forward to seeing him at the local bars during business hours. "


Just so I'm clear, does the above mean you also frequent the local pubs during business hours?

Was walking down Jersey Ave today and noticed that the guys from Buon Appetito are now operating out of the Wings to Go & Grande Pizza location at 520 Jersey Ave (corner of Jersey and Columbus)

"Good to see many others from the neighborhood checking on everyone from that block."

Thanks again to the JCFD and other emergency responders.

Saw the brothers this am as the buildings were being knocked down. They're great guys and it's really good food spot - they said they'd be back. Good to see many others from the neighborhood checking on everyone from that block.

I believe Edwards was for sale well before Sandy. The owner wants to retire.

I just hope that should he sell, the new owners maintain the business.

Sad to see Soul Flavors go as well.

Looks like another shitty/Friday afternoon/evening summer commute on the PATH according to all of the alerts.

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Agree 100%.

Also, class move by John's in their response.

Great news!

In the basketball world, the White Eagle is legendary. St. Anthony's practiced there for years. Happy to see it will be saved / renovated / converted and continue to be a part of JC in the future.

When did this happen...?

Terrible shame...good people work there.

It was open Thursday morning/afternoon...

I thought it recently changed ownership in the last 3 or 4 years which brought about some monir changes...

If it is for sale, I certainly hope it does not change too much. Definitely a JC treasure.

if you are all discussing the old hardware store on Jersey between Newark and Columbus, I remember when it closed I believe the structure was unsound and the roof was in danger of collapsing - I may have read that here.

I remember (maybe 97?) when Video Rent All (formerly of Railroad/Columbus - now Red Feast Liquor Store) used to be over where the main door of Grove Point is. That place was reminded of the adult stores in and around Times Sq with the people "hanging out" there...minus the live entertainment. I believe there was some sort of always closed Italian or Portuguese restaurant next door...


That area is a hell of a lot better than it was in the mid to late 90's. The few Images of America books on Jersey City provide really interesting photos of all of JC (specifically downtown) and are worth checking out.

I've learned in the last 15 years, that if I want to actually recieve my mail or packages, I have them delivered to my work address (outside of JC) and preferably not through USPS.

I have had them help me find properties and I have had them as landlords. When looking at properties, we definitely were not provided honest answers. As landlords, they were unresponsive at best.

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