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Re: Pizza dough
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I usually just buy it from the guys at Buon Appetito on Jersey and Columbus. I want to say it's about $5 for enough to make two small pies, but don't quote me on the price.

Posted on: 2017/5/16 13:21
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Re: The Lutze Biergarten - Harborside
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From jeseycityupfront:
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As for drinks ? the Lutze will have a full bar along with 16-oz. $9 draft beers (Radeberger, Weihenstephaner, Leinenkugel Summer Shandy, more), $7 can beers (Lutze Amber Ale, Sixpoint Crisp, more), $9 wine/ros?, and $9 sangria. They?ll also offer frozen margaritas at $11. You can check out the full menu here (PDF). Drink prices are actually very reasonable considering the location and the view.


Are we really supposed to think anything other than maybe the wine prices are reasonable? Especially considering a week ago I could effectively BYO and sit in those same seats or continue to do so on any part of the waterfront.

Posted on: 2017/5/3 16:05
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Re: Sites to list apartment rentals
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You'll get plenty of leads from craigslist; especially if you're listing as owner with no broker fee.

Plus a lot of the aggregators like hotpads and padmapper will scrape your listing.

Posted on: 2017/4/11 16:00
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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Open gangway cars can increase capacity by 10% and then, with said open gangway cars, you can probably add an extra train car, maybe even two. If you can just walk into the next car, trains can be longer than the stations.


Agree with the first half, though I'm not sure open gangway would survive the S curve heading into Christopher from Newport.

On the second half, people are way too stupid to be able to handle moving from one car to another to exit.

Posted on: 2017/4/7 18:21
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Re: what's the status of White Eagle Hall?
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About 3 months since the last update to this thread. Anyone hear of anything new going on? The timeline is well past comical.

Posted on: 2017/3/20 0:08
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Re: Sprout(s) at 70 Columbus
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KMont484 wrote:
third street hats... i just joined this forum as im fairly new to JC... live right near this place and was so excited to never go to shoprite again... but it just doesnt cut it

do you need to be grandfathered in here to have an opinion?


No, I don't doubt that the place is lackluster. It was simply that there were three posts in a row from users with NAME### and fewer than 5 previous posts.

It has definitely happened here before, much like on Yelp, that a place opens and competitors or friends/family try to swing public perception through false reviews.

Posted on: 2017/3/17 17:17
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Re: Sprout(s) at 70 Columbus
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What's with all the low post count accounts stopping by to dump on this place?

Posted on: 2017/3/16 21:52
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Re: Jersey City mulls changes to pedestrian plaza to address rowdy bar-goers
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terrencemcd wrote:

Should have been "nearly $2,500," so I've changed to that.

The SID is assuming two officers three days a week, working about 6 hours each at $65 an hour. That's $2,340 for the week. They think 26 weeks tops.


Gotcha. I was having trouble parsing that with Two Boots complaining about $200/yr.

Does that mean there are roughly 300 businesses in the HDSID and they would all have to contribute to this fund even if they're all the way down at Newark and 3rd or York and Grove and not open during these hours?

Posted on: 2017/3/6 21:16
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Re: Jersey City mulls changes to pedestrian plaza to address rowdy bar-goers
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I'm all for some kind of change here. I don't think that closing the plaza really solves for anything.

That said, the $3000 number quoted in the article makes no sense to me. If we just consider "warmer months" to be May - September we're talking about 60 working days and 2 officers per day.

Are we expected to believe that these off-duty cops are going to work 5-6 hour shifts for $25?

Posted on: 2017/3/6 20:48
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Re: Trump Our New President
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JCMan8 wrote:
SOS, cute deflection but more than 30 "hate crimes" supposedly committed by Trump supporters were found to have been caused by liberals in the 2 month period from Electiom Day to December 31, 2016 alone.

http://lidblog.com/top-30-fake-hate-crimes/

FAR from isolated incidents, liberals are the primary perpetrators.

Like I said, I look forward to seeing more liberals get arrested!


Great article.

The first few items on the list reference hate crime "stories" shared on Facebook, not reported by actual news organizations. There are also two or three items on the list that reference what we can assume are white, conservative Trump supporters who attempted to frame the Black Lives Matter movement.

While I don't doubt that there are plenty of stupid people out there who are more than capable of committing the acts mentioned, there is a great sense of irony that you seem to be missing. This is exactly where the concept of "fake news" comes from that the president has co-opted to label unflattering, but factually accurate articles from proper journalists.

"Fake news" are the stories and sensational tabloid articles, very much in line with what LidBlog generates, that are shared via social media and get perpetuated through the groupthink mentality enabled by the algorithms driving your Facebook feed.

This benefits no one and dumbs down the general populace on both sides such that they don't bother to vet or validate anything they read. It is lowest common denominator nonsense that preys on our most basic psychology in confirmation bias.

For anyone interested, Lidblog.com, the source cited here, is behind such objective journalism as:

A Leader of Upcoming Anti-Trump Protest is Palestinian Terrorist- Killer of 2 Students

Tucker Carlson DESTROYS Bill Nye (Who?s Not Really A Science Guy)

Don Lemon: CNN?s Proof That You Can?t Fix Stupid

122 Obama Lies That Mainstream Media Mostly Ignored (About 25% Of His Total)

The Preacher Who Obama Almost Blamed For Benghazi Attack

President Trump Is NOT An Anti-Semite (But Obama May Be One)

Posted on: 2017/3/3 21:18
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Re: Trump Our New President
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JCMan8 wrote:
Presently, the danger posed by our disgusting media is amplified by the rats in the deep state.

Here's an example:

If the language surrounding the investigation remains florid and purple, if Democrats try to please their Trump-hating constituents by screaming impeachment and liberal media tries to garner audience by jumping openly and vociferously on the bandwagon, the Trumpians will respond in kind by stirring the pot through their media and their argumentation.

The result might well be violence. Not rhetorical violence. Actual violence. Actual political violence. Actual conflicts between anti-Trumpers and Trumpers. At demonstrations. In the streets. Of our cities. Political violence of a sort we haven?t seen in 50 years, and maybe haven?t really seen in this country in the modern era. Those who believe Trump is a unique menace whose threat to our democratic way of life will be met with those who believe the elites are using illicit means to oust the legitimately elected president of the United States.

This is not a fantasy. This is one possible future. And every rational person who cares about the future of the country should be mindful of it, and should work to forestall it.

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/pol ... iggering-the-coup-theory/


I agree with the general sentiment of the article but fail to see how it argues your point. First, it is an opinion piece that sites no individual instance of its underlying conceit. The closest it gets, other than the blanket statement about Democrats that you quoted, is here:

"Already pro-Trump voices on the right are calling the leaks that led to Michael Flynn?s firing evidence of an attempted coup d?etat. The fevered use of such terms is part and parcel of the way in which social media amplifies the melodrama of daily news stories."

My opinion of the problem is that we have a president who is fanning these flames through incendiary comments such as:

"The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!"

There have been zero instances in which the administration, or anyone, has pointed to a specific story where one of these outlets got something objectively wrong. It very much feels that terms like "fake news" are used because they are simple, easily repeatable catch-phrases that lead those uttering them to think they've won an argument or are absolved of real debate.

Posted on: 2017/2/18 15:32
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Re: Trump Our New President
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TheBigGuy wrote:
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hero69 wrote:
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third_street_hats wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
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SOS wrote:
Watch Donald Trump's news conference from 2/16/2017:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politic ... day-in-history/index.html

If you haven't seen it, worthwhile to watch the entire event.



For once, we agree. I watched most of it and LOVED it. Great to see him putting the disgusting media in their place.


What specific things by which specific media entities were disgusting?


The NYTimes reporter who wasn't fired after being caught calling the First Lady a hooker? Think he'd still have his job if he'd call Mrs. Obama the n word?


Cool. Idiotic, juvenile comment by what seems like a douchey feature writer who got his job through nepotism.

Any examples of specific things that might actually impact you or I or the future of our country?
i think said reporter would justifiably be fired if he called mrs obama or anyone by the "n" word or any other derogatory term. i do not think said reporter would be fired if he called mrs obama a hooker. and btw, some escorts are very hard working and respectable people. anyway, enough of the faux outrage.


As some one who refers to President Trump as scumbag... thanks for your impartial opinion of the libel of the First Lady by another hack reporter from the NYT.


It would be libel if the nyt printed this statement as fact. It was said in conversation at a party so it is slander at best, but you know as well as I that this dude's comment will have cause zero damages for the First Lady. Again, please point to the disgusting work printed by the disgusting media that actually matter.

Posted on: 2017/2/18 13:54
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Monroe wrote:
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third_street_hats wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
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SOS wrote:
Watch Donald Trump's news conference from 2/16/2017:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politic ... day-in-history/index.html

If you haven't seen it, worthwhile to watch the entire event.



For once, we agree. I watched most of it and LOVED it. Great to see him putting the disgusting media in their place.


What specific things by which specific media entities were disgusting?


The NYTimes reporter who wasn't fired after being caught calling the First Lady a hooker? Think he'd still have his job if he'd call Mrs. Obama the n word?


Cool. Idiotic, juvenile comment by what seems like a douchey feature writer who got his job through nepotism.

Any examples of specific things that might actually impact you or I or the future of our country?

Posted on: 2017/2/18 1:28
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Re: Trump Our New President
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JCMan8 wrote:
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SOS wrote:
Watch Donald Trump's news conference from 2/16/2017:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politic ... day-in-history/index.html

If you haven't seen it, worthwhile to watch the entire event.



For once, we agree. I watched most of it and LOVED it. Great to see him putting the disgusting media in their place.


What specific things by which specific media entities were disgusting?

Posted on: 2017/2/17 21:20
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Re: Krispy Kreme to Hold Factory Hiring Event All Types of Jobs Available
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That building takes up an entire block. There is no way this store/factory will be larger than 30% even when combined with the Subway and GNC on the Grove side.

Posted on: 2017/2/3 14:14
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Re: Jersey City rally in support of immigrants
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TheBigGuy wrote:
So let me clarify The Left position on illegal immigration.... Everybody in the whole world has a right to come to America illegally.... unless you happen to be a Catholic Cuban

... those unfortunates get arrested and sent back to Cuba and probable death. Where is the global outrage for the 19 Cubans that Mexico just returned to Cuba.


Are you saying that there are people in this thread who have mentioned positions like that? If so, please add those quotes here.

And to clarify on where I think you're heading with this (correct me if I'm wrong), one can be opposed to illegal immigration and also think that building a wall as a solution is an idiotic waste of money.

Posted on: 2017/2/2 13:57
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Re: Jersey City rally in support of immigrants
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JCMan8 wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
You're parsing the effect, which was no visas were processed for 6 months.


Again, the Iraq action was tied to a specific threat that. No such threat or similar rationale has been provided for Trump's ban - just an "I don't like the looks of those guys" (to put it kindly) type of thing.

The French are very clever.


Spoken like an ignoramus who never actually read the executive order he has such a strong opinion about.


What part of the executive order do you believe JSleeze is missing?

If you are looking to educate anyone or be persuasive at all, it would be helpful to make such accusations and accompany them with the source information. That way, JSleeze can at least understand your interpretation and compare that to his own in his response.

Posted on: 2017/2/1 0:40
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Re: Trump Our New President
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TheBigGuy wrote:
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135jc wrote:
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guess what, many illegals do pay taxes and get few, if any, benefits.


Huh? Now u are just being absurd.


What do you think happens when they use a fake SSN? They pay taxes and never get any benefits. Duh.

And why do you think they get no benefits. They get WIC a cell phone child care school lunches and medical care. I'm sure I'm missing some but that is hardly no benefits


Here is what The Boston Bomber family received in between trips back "home" to Chechnya to learn how to make bombs out of pressure cookers!

http://www.bostonherald.com/news_opin ... received_100g_in_benefits


What point are you trying to make here?

Posted on: 2017/1/30 4:51
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Re: Trump Our New President
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JCMan8 wrote:
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Gallup is biased. Rasmussen is far more accurate.


Cool. We'll keep an eye on that poll. In the meantime, here are two posts where you reference a Gallup poll.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=365245

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=403895


Cool. I appreciate my fans here.


My opinion of you is inconsequential. I'm simply putting on display that you claim bias in an organization which you have used as objective justification for previous arguments.

Posted on: 2017/1/30 4:06
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Re: Trump Our New President
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JCMan8 wrote:
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Let them circle jerk in this thread with dopey Yvonne while everyone else actually works on getting this turd impeached.


How do you figure? They have control of everything, and even the "nevertrumps" have sold their souls to the Orange Mephistopheles to get their pet issues catered to. "Who cares if he's not a Christian or moral person in any way, shape or form, as long as he panders to us!"


If you did not use the orange reference, I would swear you are using right wing talking about Obama. And somehow you have respect for the opinions of nevertrumpers like failed candidates Bush, Romney, McCain, and Graham.

Meanwhile the Friday Rasmussen poll says Trump @ 59% approval.

You foolish people still have not learned that shutting down airports, tunnels or bridges will not win over the hearts and minds of the people who rejected Hillary.


The Gallup poll tells a different story:

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On Sunday Jan. 22, two days after being sworn in, 45 percent of respondents said they disapproved of Trump?s job performance and 45 percent approved. By Friday Jan. 27, the percentage who disapproved rose to 50 and percentage who approved dipped to 42.

Other national surveys show similarly low approval ratings for the President. Forty-four percent of respondents to a Quinnipiac survey released Thursday said they disapproved of his handling of the presidency thus far, while only 36 percent approved.

Gallup?s daily results are taken from telephone interviews with 1,500 adults nationwide. The margin of error is plus or minus three points.


Saturday's number upped the disapproval rating to 51%. Here's a look at recent presidents and how long they took to reach majority disapproval:

President Days
Reagan 727
Bush Sr. 1336
Clinton 573
Bush Jr. 1205
Obama 936
Trump 8


Gallup is biased. Rasmussen is far more accurate.


Cool. We'll keep an eye on that poll. In the meantime, here are two posts where you reference a Gallup poll.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=365245

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=403895

Posted on: 2017/1/30 3:03
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Re: Trump Our New President
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TheBigGuy wrote:
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brewster wrote:
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TonyTwoPoops wrote:
Let them circle jerk in this thread with dopey Yvonne while everyone else actually works on getting this turd impeached.


How do you figure? They have control of everything, and even the "nevertrumps" have sold their souls to the Orange Mephistopheles to get their pet issues catered to. "Who cares if he's not a Christian or moral person in any way, shape or form, as long as he panders to us!"


If you did not use the orange reference, I would swear you are using right wing talking about Obama. And somehow you have respect for the opinions of nevertrumpers like failed candidates Bush, Romney, McCain, and Graham.

Meanwhile the Friday Rasmussen poll says Trump @ 59% approval.

You foolish people still have not learned that shutting down airports, tunnels or bridges will not win over the hearts and minds of the people who rejected Hillary.


The Gallup poll tells a different story:

Quote:
On Sunday Jan. 22, two days after being sworn in, 45 percent of respondents said they disapproved of Trump?s job performance and 45 percent approved. By Friday Jan. 27, the percentage who disapproved rose to 50 and percentage who approved dipped to 42.

Other national surveys show similarly low approval ratings for the President. Forty-four percent of respondents to a Quinnipiac survey released Thursday said they disapproved of his handling of the presidency thus far, while only 36 percent approved.

Gallup?s daily results are taken from telephone interviews with 1,500 adults nationwide. The margin of error is plus or minus three points.


Saturday's number upped the disapproval rating to 51%. Here's a look at recent presidents and how long they took to reach majority disapproval:

President Days
Reagan 727
Bush Sr. 1336
Clinton 573
Bush Jr. 1205
Obama 936
Trump 8

Posted on: 2017/1/30 2:09
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Re: Trump Our New President
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135jc wrote:
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Yeah, the automotive lobby will totally allow this to happen and middle America will be thrilled about the lack of illegals(despite the fact that illegal crossings are at a 40 low) when their truck costs an additional $8k.

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The Cadillac Escalade EXT and SRX, Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Aveo, Chevrolet HHR, Chevrolet Silverado and Silverado Hybrid, Dodge Journey, Dodge Ram 2500, Dodge Ram 3500, Dodge Ram 4500, Dodge Ram 5500, Ford Fiesta, Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid, GMC Sierra and Sierra Hybrid, GMC Sierra Crew Cab, Honda CR-V, Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid, Nissan Sentra, Nissan Versa, Volkswagen Jetta and Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen are all assembled in Mexico. Toyota Tacomas are assembled in both Mexico and the United States.

Engines made in Mexico include those used in the Chrysler Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Ram 1500, Ford Escape and Escape Hybrid, GM Buick Lucerne and Cadillac CTS line, Cadillac Escalade Hybrid, Chevrolet Cruze and Malibu, Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid and Mazda Tribute Hybrid.

Transmissions made in Mexico include those used in the Dodge Calibur, Chrysler Jeep Compass and Patriot, Ford Shelby GT500, Nissan Altima and Maxima, and a wide range of GM vehicles.



I would imagine that this tax will be placed on Mexican produced products by Mexican companies and not directly on American companies. Of course it will limit the number of Mexican automobiles you see riding around.


Then I would argue that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation. Nearly half of the products (137B out of the total 295B in 2015) imported from Mexico are in the automobile and electronics categories(mostly TVs, computers and OEM electronics components). Virtually none of them are created by countries founded or based in Mexico.


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Re: Trump Our New President
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Yeah, the automotive lobby will totally allow this to happen and middle America will be thrilled about the lack of illegals(despite the fact that illegal crossings are at a 40 year low) when their truck costs an additional $8k. Hopefully they each get to etch their name in a brick for their contribution.

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The Cadillac Escalade EXT and SRX, Chevrolet Avalanche, Chevrolet Aveo, Chevrolet HHR, Chevrolet Silverado and Silverado Hybrid, Dodge Journey, Dodge Ram 2500, Dodge Ram 3500, Dodge Ram 4500, Dodge Ram 5500, Ford Fiesta, Ford Fusion and Fusion Hybrid, GMC Sierra and Sierra Hybrid, GMC Sierra Crew Cab, Honda CR-V, Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid, Nissan Sentra, Nissan Versa, Volkswagen Jetta and Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen are all assembled in Mexico. Toyota Tacomas are assembled in both Mexico and the United States.

Engines made in Mexico include those used in the Chrysler Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Ram 1500, Ford Escape and Escape Hybrid, GM Buick Lucerne and Cadillac CTS line, Cadillac Escalade Hybrid, Chevrolet Cruze and Malibu, Chevrolet Tahoe Hybrid, GMC Yukon Hybrid and Mazda Tribute Hybrid.

Transmissions made in Mexico include those used in the Dodge Calibur, Chrysler Jeep Compass and Patriot, Ford Shelby GT500, Nissan Altima and Maxima, and a wide range of GM vehicles.


Posted on: 2017/1/26 21:22

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Re: Trump Our New President
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Yvonne wrote:
I checked the calendar for January 20, 2009. It was a Sunday. People are off from work unlike January 20, 2016, which fell on a Friday.


Definitely a Tuesday.

Posted on: 2017/1/24 0:40
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Re: Trump Our New President
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To add on here because I cannot edit my post, I do not care about this silly mistake. It has been corrected. My response to you was only to point out that no matter the issue, you seem to be willing to tow the party line. You're being deliberately obtuse instead of saying, "Yeah, stupid mistake."

Much more significant, stances have been made on the updated whitehouse.gov pages. I tried to re-direct to one. The reason that news outlets picked up on this is because it is an easy target. They can say, "Oh look at this! They're trying to sell jewelry! Can you believe it!" No one is going to whitehouse.gov to get shopping tips, but that does not mean the First Lady should be able to have a bio that includes my jewelry line is called ____, and you can find it on here.

This is "reporters" trying to get knee jerk reactions from the anti-Trump camp on an easy story while they (hopefully) push for further detail on that abomination of an energy "plan."

Posted on: 2017/1/21 17:31
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Monroe wrote:
The First Lady is a federal employee?

And puhleeze, the other candidate was swapping favors for $'s on an epic scale, pushing a jewelry line pales in comparison.


Here's a link to a summary of the case in 93 related to "the other candidate"'s task force on health care reform which brought her status into question. You're absolutely right that "pushing a jewelry line pales in comparison."

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/06/23/us/ ... cto-federal-official.html

Posted on: 2017/1/21 17:00
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Asif wrote:
At least Trump is trying to MAKE AMERICA BEAUTIFUL AGAIN by shilling jewelry.

https://www.cnet.com/news/melania-trum ... lady-white-house-website/


It was inside her bio, she should omit it exactly why?


Because she is a federal employee and should not be able to advance her personal wealth through her position. It has since been edited to remove the name of her jewelry line and where it can be purchased.

Actually despicable and worth talking about are these contradictory statements in the "America First Energy Plan"

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For too long, we?ve been held back by burdensome regulations on our energy industry. President Trump is committed to eliminating harmful and unnecessary policies such as the Climate Action Plan and the Waters of the U.S. rule. Lifting these restrictions will greatly help American workers, increasing wages by more than $30 billion over the next 7 years.


followed by

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Lastly, our need for energy must go hand-in-hand with responsible stewardship of the environment. Protecting clean air and clean water, conserving our natural habitats, and preserving our natural reserves and resources will remain a high priority. President Trump will refocus the EPA on its essential mission of protecting our air and water.


Amazing, so you're going to maintain responsible stewardship of the environment by making no mention of wind, solar or any renewable energy source and also remove legislature that promotes those very types of energy.

Posted on: 2017/1/21 15:13
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Re: TALDE JERSEY CITY
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Permits on the front of Bell & Grey reference adding a kitchen to the space as well as installation of a "BBQ table."

Posted on: 2017/1/16 1:14
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Are you guys planning to fall in line on the issue of net neutrality as well?

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20 ... ules-as-soon-as-possible/

Posted on: 2016/12/20 20:48
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Re: Trump Our New President
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bodhipooh wrote:

No, she didn't. She won the popular vote in 20 states, while Trump won in 30 states. Washington DC voted for Clinton, of course.


Board won't let me edit a previous comment. But yes, 20 states. Thanks.

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