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Re: Woman Robbed at Gunpoint - Montgomery & West Side - 5/19 - 11:30pm
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You claimed the description is useless specifically because it omitted race?that race is ?the most important detail??not because it was otherwise vague. The issue is your conspicuous fixation with race and your use of racist speech.


And my claim was correct. Race is the most important detail as it allows you to most narrow the pool of potential suspects.


Skin color is not the most distinguishing characteristic an individual may possess, but at least you aren't subtle about what's driving you.

Posted on: 2015/5/22 18:10
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Re: Woman Robbed at Gunpoint - Montgomery & West Side - 5/19 - 11:30pm
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But that's not really the issue, we are talking about the point of publishing such a vague and useless description of the violent robber.


Not so fast. You claimed the description is useless specifically because it omitted race?that race is ?the most important detail??not because it was otherwise vague. The issue is your conspicuous fixation with race and your use of racist speech.

Posted on: 2015/5/22 15:42
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Re: Woman Robbed at Gunpoint - Montgomery & West Side - 5/19 - 11:30pm
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Again, if you think one more common adjective is the difference between a useless description and a useful one, it?s because you are not being rational.


I suppose you are right in implying it's redundant to say the violent robber is black because it's so common for that group to commit such robberies.


I neither implied nor believe any such thing, and by trying to project disingenuous ideals that you?re rightly uncomfortable claiming as your own on to somebody else, you?re being even less rational.

Posted on: 2015/5/22 15:03
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Re: Woman Robbed at Gunpoint - Montgomery & West Side - 5/19 - 11:30pm
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If you don't see a massive difference between choosing to publish a description that could apply to 50% of the population vs. 6%, you have a tenuous grasp on statistics.


Tenuous grasp on statistics indeed?the numbers you?re using to justify your perception of reality aren?t even close to being relevant for our city. Again, if you think one more common adjective is the difference between a useless description and a useful one, it?s because you are not being rational.

Posted on: 2015/5/22 14:11
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Re: Woman Robbed at Gunpoint - Montgomery & West Side - 5/19 - 11:30pm
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Amazing how the article even bothers to give a description of the robber while omitting the most important detail: his race.


I've been thinking about this, and increasingly I think it's sensible on behalf of the powers-that-be. Most people, in my experience, are not terribly observant. Given height, weight, and ethnicity, the average JC resident would probably see a dozen such individuals on their way to work, and would probably focus on the one fact that stuck with them..


Then there is no point in publishing a description at all.

Instead, we have a sanitized description which is utterly useless. Here is what the article says: "The woman described the robber as a tall and thin, and wearing dark jeans, sneakers and a sweatshirt, the police report said."


More information obviously helps form a more comprehensive picture, but if you think one more common adjective would make this particular description so much less vague that it would spell the difference between useless and useful or between sanitized and raw, it?s because you?re assigning your own conspicuously exaggerated, irrational emphasis to it.

Posted on: 2015/5/22 13:21
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Re: Jersey City councilman wants private entity to 'take over' Liberty State Park
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i agree about the lack of shade trees and have complained about that before, but someone pointed out that there are no/few trees due to ground contamination.


I don't buy that explanation, hero69. If the ground was so contaminated, it wouldn't be open to the public. And, there ARE trees planted all over the park, just small trees and in areas that are not necessarily where people would congregate (perimeter of grass areas, etc.). The last time I brought this up, I was told that the trees that are planted are expected to grow and become shade trees. Well, it's been nine years since I arrived in JC, and those trees are sure taking a long time to become shade trees. :)

They really should have invested in, and planted, more mature, fuller trees.


Environmental conditions that are less than ideal for large trees aren?t necessarily dangerous to our health.

The contamination we all talk about comes from the construction fill that was originally used to build rail beds out of brackish marshland, and then a century of messy train and rail yard operation. A layer of sand and topsoil was added to create the public areas of LSP, so exposure to the material below is probably minimal and may not be much of a factor. However, while I don?t have any expertise in soil or trees, I would be surprised if mature hardwood trees would have been able to thrive in a recently added layer of soil, even if the money existed to buy and plant them.

As far as the interior portions of the site go, there?s more information than any of us would want to know in a dissertation written by Francis Gallagher in 2008:

https://rucore.libraries.rutgers.edu/rutgers-lib/24382/pdf/1/

Posted on: 2015/5/21 13:20
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Two Boots can spend more than food truck operators and prepared food stands at the Grove St farmers market. So he can successfully get them banned and enjoy his little victory there.

But he can't outspend huge developers so he comes on here with his typical snake oil sales pitch intended to get people to do his bidding for him. Sorry Two Boots, enjoy another loss (like the proposal to limit chains downtown). I hope they extend the tower to 30 stories.


It?s unfortunate how much anonymous flak Aaron M takes because he dared to publically voice opposition to the operation of a mobile food court in very close proximity to restaurants, but that?s not the argument. I suspect most people who are aware of their environment can recognize that tall buildings integrate very poorly with a low-rise architectural landscape and the communities that surround them?it?s a simple argument.

Getting back K-Lo?s comment, I would think that political leaders and the city?s coffers don?t stand much to lose by interfering with large national retail stores in a small section of town. Developers on the other hand, make offers and form alliances that are difficult to resist for reasons we can all understand.

Unfortunately, tall buildings are the future for a great deal of Jersey City. Last call was an hour ago, and the lights are on; we?re not hot enough to be picky, and we don?t have enough cab fare to get home by ourselves.

Posted on: 2015/5/15 15:23
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Does anyone else find a bit of disconnect with the City approving every effort to 'densify' living space while attempting to maintain the Mom and Pop feel of downtown stores? I just don't get it.


Who spends more money on government and has closer relationships with political leaders?national retailers or developers?

Posted on: 2015/5/15 13:21

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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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I think you're splitting hairs over politi-speak. That's like trying to look for pearls of wisdom over realtor-speak.


I think you're right, but a politician fulfilling the stereotype may not be a good enough reason to give him or her a free pass.

Posted on: 2015/5/14 17:04
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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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?Not true,? isn?t an answer to a question.



Not true.


True... but I didn't ask a true or false question.

Posted on: 2015/5/14 17:01
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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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Not true. Construction jobs attract folks from far and near -- realtors, builders, electricians, plumbers, truckers, et al. Buildings require ongoing maintenance staff, many of whom are local. Again that's doorpeople, security staff, cleaners, electricians, plumbers, repair work, designers, et al. You also attract buyers/renters, which in turns generates demand for teachers, firemen, police officers, tutors, nannies, doctors. This is basic economics.


?Not true,? isn?t an answer to a question.

Of course development is financially beneficial to many people, myself included since I work in design and construction, but when the Mayor says that he ?couldn?t be more proud of? of job creation in Jersey City in process of glad-handing a developer, I have to wonder where the hyperbole is coming from. After all, reports of the initial proposal indicated that this ~$140 million project will directly create twenty permanent jobs.

Posted on: 2015/5/14 15:23
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Re: Ground broken at 33 Park in Liberty Harbor
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Article linked.

From the article:
"We?d like to congratulate Fisher Development, which has built some of the premier buildings in Jersey City," Mayor Fulop said. "This is another step in Jersey City leading the state of New Jersey in job creation, which we couldn?t be more proud about. We hope that Fisher Development will build here for many more years in future developments and the door is open for that."


I can appreciate that large scale residential projects benefit developers, investors, financiers, planners, designers, contractors, and equipment/material manufacturers and vendors?a lot of people who already have jobs, very few of which are based in Jersey City?but can anyone help me understand what permanent, local jobs that are worthy of so much pride are created by them?


Posted on: 2015/5/14 12:53
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Re: JUST BECLAWS
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Wow?blue crab on the menu?now there?s something to look forward to later in the season! Bring on the newspaper.

Posted on: 2015/5/13 13:30
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Re: Sprinklers
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I hope the residents of this community can appreciate this small oasis within downtown that they may come to and relax, sunbath, read, and view what we think is some of the best planted gardens in any public park within Jersey City.

-parkman


Absolutely. It?s a fantastic counterpoint to the constant background noise often dismal aesthetics of our urban environment. I would have moved years ago if it wasn?t for the park and its greenery. Thank you!

Posted on: 2015/5/13 13:12
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Re: Nail Salons of Jersey City!
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Wow. Spoken like a true apathetic person... I guess people who like to hire underage prostitutes could posit the same argument: it's the job of government (or, someone else) to look after their welfare. Your argument is weak and, really, only proves what I stated before: people LOVE to play dumb and avoid taking or accepting responsibility for how their actions and demands impact humans, animals, or the environment.


Watch those panties, bodhipooh.

I was speaking strictly of occupational health and safety, which in the case of nail salons is obviously related to the prolonged exposure to solvents and other potentially toxic chemicals. We are not experts, nor do we possess the time, resources, authority, or inclination to investigate, assess, or enforce remedies for workplace safety concerns. That?s precisely why there are government agencies tasked with those responsibilities.

Posted on: 2015/5/11 18:03
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Re: Nail Salons of Jersey City!
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Pretty funny to see people getting their panties in a bunch over this story. I guess people rather go through life playing dumb, or with their heads stuck in the sand, than face the reality of their surroundings. How could ANYONE think that any of these nail places can stay afloat and turn a profit by charging $10 for a manicure when rents are so high, and while "employing" so many individuals, unless they are cutting corners somewhere, or shafting their employees??

All of these services and conveniences of which people avail themselves at incredibly low prices are obviously coming at somebody's expense, or by cutting corners somewhere. Stop playing dumb, acknowledge it and make peace with that. Or, choose to patronize services and businesses that you know are doing the right thing, but which will cost you much more.


It?s still the job of the government to mandate and enforce occupational health and safety regulations. It?s certainly admirable and wise to care about others, but it?s not our place to insure that all people whose work we benefit from are afforded the protections to which they?re entitled. There?s already a mechanism in place for that.

Posted on: 2015/5/11 16:26
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Re: Carrino Provisions
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Eataly does a much better job of that. They don't charge sales tax on unprepared food items. I don't believe the law makes a distinction on the "trendiness" of a retailer in determining whether or not sales tax should be applied.


I was being a smart ass about the tax, and of course Eataly is also selling an image, but it follows through with a uniquely high level of care and effort that goes well beyond the appeal of trendiness.

Posted on: 2015/5/11 15:11
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Re: Carrino Provisions
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The final straw for me was today when I went in to buy a hunk of parmigiano reggiano - and they charged me sales tax on it. I asked the cashier why she charged sales tax on a grocery item that's not supposed to be taxed. She just shrugged and said they charge tax on all their items.


They?re selling a trendy image of Italian food culture as much as the products in the cases, so perhaps that makes everything taxable.

Posted on: 2015/5/11 14:07
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Re: Monty's Public House
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Regarding Hard Grove, I've heard from a reliable source that the two owners have personal differences that need to be resolved before moving forward.


That's Right!


Owners? I thought the inmates were running that asylum.

Posted on: 2015/5/8 13:51
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Re: Christie torches bill to require all new homes have sprinklers
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JCMan8 wrote:
Also, the legislative effort should be to force developers to use higher quality materials, or something that would prevent the massive Avalon Edgewater fire from repeating. Since that building had fire sprinklers, and these were useless, this proposed law was even more useless.


Sprinkler systems are useless like seat belts and motorcycle helmets are useless.

Well-designed sprinkler systems WORK, and have prevented thousands of building fires from rapidly burning out of control, and have saved many thousands of lives.

The governor?s statement is based on the reality that we have to maintain a ?balance between safety and cost,? but that doesn?t remotely imply that sprinklers for single and two-family homes are useless.

Similarly, the number of automobile injuries and fatalities would drop like a stone if our vehicles conformed to the same safety standards as race cars, but those cars would be prohibitively expensive. That's the spirit of the argument--it's not about whether sprinklers work.

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Re: Ex-Chief alleges Mayor Fulop took part in cover-up of officer DUI
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Ex Chief is a huge loaf of shit.

'nuff said


If that?s true, the Mayor poking at it with his finger may not have been a ?best practice? for dealing with the cleanup. Perhaps this unfortunate development may have been avoided through diplomacy.

Posted on: 2015/5/6 21:16
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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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The idea that any grown adult freely entering into an agreement with another party to perform work in a given arrangement is "exploitation" is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard. How little respect do you have for these drivers that you think that they are incapable of making their own choices on how to participate in the economy?


If it helps, I promise this will be my last word on the subject: sigh.

Posted on: 2015/5/1 20:38
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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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Good heavens boris, if you're unable to understand what's wrong with an increasingly large segment of the population being exploited by methods that negatively affect their ability to participate in a consumer-based ecomonic system that depends on their participation, there's nothing more worth explaining to you.

You were already off by an entire order of magnitude in the elevator discussion because of your inability or refusal to objectively comprehend the scope of the problem, so it's no surprise that the trend continues.

Posted on: 2015/5/1 20:19
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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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The most telling aspect of this discussion is we see a service that we like, the drivers see a job that they want, and you see a "corporation" that you must attack, just because it's there.

Anyway, here something that a friend of mine always says to people like you: start your own service. According to you, it's possible to charge the same as Uber or even less, while paying drivers more and with some benefits. So, if you're right, your new business will easily outcompete Uber as both a service provider and as employer. You'll prove your point, you'll do a lot of good for everyone, and you'll get rich while doing it. A trifecta!

If you believe in the things that you proclaim, you have no good reason not to do it.



People like me?? I can?t possibly know what you mean by that, so I?m going with objective? and since you?re being so generous, let?s throw in tall and good looking?you flatterer, you!

Ultimately, it?s objectivity that?s my reason for finding fault with the particular way that Uber uses independent contractors to reduce operating costs?which in turn allows them to maintain profits while simultaneously reducing the costs to consumers. A company cannot facilitate what Uber does at Uber-rate prices while playing by the same rules as a taxi company, paying the same taxes and licensing fees, and providing equitable treatment to the drivers who do all the work. That?s basically the entire point I?m making. You can disagree if you want, but there?s no point in thoroughly misunderstanding it the way you have.

Reducing costs to retain or increase profit is a proven, common-sense method for competing in the market. I do it as an engineer, and I?m sure you do it as whatever you are. However, cost cutting can turn to means that are not sustainable for our consumer-based economy, and that?s where those practices become?oh no not again?a race to the bottom.

If the consulting firm I work for required that I supplied virtually everything that permits me do my job, I would be working for a crazy bunch of pricks?but I don?t?I work for a company whose business practices are mutually beneficial, and which allow me to participate in and help stimulate our consumer-based economy. Companies like Uber and Amazon on the other hand, deliberately tilt the deck heavily in their favor which reduces their contractors? and workers? ability to do the same. It?s not about having a personal beef with these companies, it?s simply about them being poor corporate citizens and taking more from our economy than they give back. (Oh, but the low low prices, how tempting!)

Finally, and since you brought up the put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is thing, how?s your $200,000 Grove St. elevator project coming?

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Re: Attention high rise tenants and investors !
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Whether it is rational or irrational, I am still afraid of living in a high rise building. Call it phobia. Fine. It's just the way I feel. Statistics is not going to make me feel any different.


The influence of architecture and the environment on the human psyche is inescapable, so it?s no surprise that there?s plenty of research demonstrating the positive and negative effects of high rise living on development, socialization, and mental health. It?s interesting reading.

There's probably a good chance you're more aware of those effects than the average person.

Posted on: 2015/4/30 17:23
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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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The most telling aspect of this discussion is the willingness among many of you to defend an extremely wealthy and extraordinarily fast-growing corporation that employs a disproportionately small number of people worldwide. Their great wealth and meteoric growth isn?t simply due to a revolutionary method for hiring a car?in fact it?s more closely tied to the unfortunate trend of poor corporate citizenship. Simply put, Uber would not be able to concentrate such a tremendous amount of wealth in the hands of so very few if it didn?t offset much of the cost of doing business on to the shoulders of independent contractors who receive absolutely no benefits, labor protections, or profit sharing for their efforts. This growing practice among many companies is certainly profitable for a small number of people at the very top, but it is not the way to a healthy, sustainable economy.

Have a wonderful day, everyone!

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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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To all those nut jobs worried about this so called "race to the bottom" facilitated by UBER - just wait until fully automated driverless cars start hitting the streets of JC in the next decade or so.

You might as well start slitting your wrists now.


I?m all for a bit of name calling, jackass, but at least try to throw a few ideas in there. Others are making good points?can you?

Posted on: 2015/4/29 21:14
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You can call it a "race to the bottom" or whatever you want, but the fact of the matter is that labor is no longer worth much. The idea that entrenched interests or outdated business structures should be protected when better, more efficient options exist is utterly asinine, and is akin to the horse buggy industry asking mommy government to help them protect people from the dangers of those newfangled horseless carriages.

So, I will absolutely defend Uber's business practices. They are providing technology that allows people to efficiently leverage their own limited capital (their car) to make extra money if they so wish. Driving for UberX was never intended to be a career for people, but if people choose to do so, that is their own choice. In the case of the former (part-time drivers), it gives them a flexible part-time option to earn some extra money without having to worry about schedule conflicts.

This is far beyond the scope of our discussion, but there are powerful forces at work here that are going to force us to re-examine the nature of work, or at least, of unskilled work. Are we going to have to go through the same nonsense in 10 years when Uber switches to an all-automated driving force? Or, are we going to start to talk about how best to provide for those left behind by the technological revolution without inane regulations that hamstring businesses that are trying to innovate?


What insane regulations are forcing the hired car business to turn to a model like Uber?s in order to survive? In fact, what?s preventing Uber from getting into the transportation business and competing on equal terms themselves? They?ve already developed a brilliant software application for hiring cars, all they need is a fleet of vehicles and people to operate it.

There are two forms of innovation at work here?the software and what it's able to do, and then the clever ways that Uber puts the screws to labor and absolves itself from the commitment of a large capital investment. One of those is indeed progress, the other is just fuel for the race to the bottom. Yes, that?s what I?m calling it because it?s not sustainable. As millions of people become less and less able to participate in the consumer-based economy that ideally benefits us all, the effects will eventually catch up to us as well.

Also, who decided that driving a car was never intended to be full time work? I?m certain that driving a taxi is indeed full time work for people all over the world, most likely in numbers that exceed those employed in my field and yours combined.

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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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Uber is anything but the "bottom" of the hired car business in Jersey City. I don't even care that much about whether Uber costs less or more than the cabs in Jersey City. It's not even the horrific condition that so many cabs in Jersey City are in, or the fact that so many Jersey City cabdrivers refuse to turn on the meters and arbitrarily decide the fares. It's the fact that, when I need a cab in Jersey City - THERE ARE NONE AVAILABLE! You tell me what I'm supposed to do when it's pouring rain outside, I need a cab and there are none to be found.

Uber fills that void in Jersey City and to some extent in Hoboken. I find it unnecessary to use Uber when I'm in Manhattan. Unless the Jersey City cabdrivers want to get together and create an app of their own (apparently this was proposed in Hoboken some time ago and the cab businesses blew it off), I'll be using Uber whenever I need a cab within town.


?Jersey City, Jersey City, Jersey City, Jersey City, Jersey City, Jersey City, Jersey City?? Did you miss where I agree that taxis in JC suck, but how that it still doesn?t negate the consequences of certain business practices?

Consider the argument that companies like Uber?that reduce would-be employees to benefit-free private contractors who are now responsible for nearly all the costs of doing business?fit the definition of ?race to the bottom? very well. Uber isn?t the only company taking advantage of the world?s labor force in this manner, but they?re a good example.

Jcdevilsadvocate might call it ?efficiency,? but he might also lack empathy considering that he doesn?t even come close to addressing what the practice ultimately means for laborers.

Think beyond Jersey City and your own taxi rides. Think of the wider world and the ease at which we are sold on bad ideas by appealing to our selfish motives.

Or not.

Posted on: 2015/4/29 18:30
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Re: UBER - car service in Jersey City
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The second you sit down in an UberX car, Uber (the company) is providing insurance for you and the driver. This bill just deals with insurance requirements of an Uber driver when they are not transporting a passenger.

More importantly, and I know this was addressed to someone else, but why is it my responsibility to consult anything other than my own ass about the benefits of Uber....


I admit that I have not read a single legal document related to Uber?s insurance agreement, but I wouldn?t expect to find that Uber is liable for damages related to problems with the vehicles nor errors on the drivers? part. Uber doesn?t operate any vehicles nor employ any drivers so it would be absurd for them to take on so much liability. But again, I have reading to do so I could be wrong.

Now, if you want to play devil?s advocate and ask why should you care? Well, you?re effectively asking why you should care about supporting a practice that is helping your nation race to the bottom, so you figure it out.

Posted on: 2015/4/28 17:21
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