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Re: Future of Newport Mall
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Plenty of downtowners shop at the mall. You can see it and you can see it by the stores in the mall. Do you think it's people from Greenville and BL shopping at Michael Kors and Teavana? Maybe it's people from Hoboken and NYC but I'm a downtowner proud to shop there. The organic kale set can go waste their money in NYC for all I care. The mall is here to stay.

I agree it should be marketed better to NYC folks and tourists looking for deals.

And I too wondered about Sears and JCPenny. I always figured Lord & Taylor and maybe a Nordstrom Rack but a supermarket is an interesting thought.

Trader Joe's is too small for those spots...they might actually fit in Pay/Half which is also soon to be on its way out in my estimation. But Wegmans, considering its hot food selection and variety (and if they do a liquor store too) would do very, very well there.

Posted on: 2014/1/31 18:17
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Re: New Marriott coming to JC
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The entirety of Marin is downtown, with the exception of a few feet in Hoboken before the intersection at Observer Highway. So it's definitely downtown. Marin isn't the waterfront, but it's the first block away from Washington, which definitely is the waterfront.

Let's be honest, no major hotel developer is going to set up shop away from downtown except maybe right by LSP, and even then, what are they selling besides the park and golf course, unless they have some kind of access to the ferry at Port Liberte.

Posted on: 2014/1/31 17:53
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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I would consider Washington St in Hoboken or the Green in Morristown a model. Increasingly the part of George St between New and Albany in New Brunswick (but that does have a CH Martin- but just ONE discount store).

The problem isn't A discount store it's that there are so many. Do we really need 3-4 within a 3-4 block span?

And re: traffic, if you cut off Newark St permanently it will push people onto side streets that are mostly residential (aside from Jersey Ave). All of those streets are already backed up.

You can't just pretend like JC off and left for Germany and public transportation is good, cheap, and plentiful. If you live in JC and want to go somewhere not with PATH access, or any place not near an NJT train station...you are SOL. Why this board pretends like the Sbahn awaits instead of the 35 minutes apart PATH and not much better HBLR is mystifying.


RU - I go almost EVERYWHERE with public transit, including a very large number of suburban areas in NY & NJ. Public transit IS pretty good, definitely pretty cheap (often cheaper than driving), and fairly plentiful. Can you give an example of a place you are trying to go? Rural areas are hard to get to by public transit but I imagine it is the same way in Germany.

It took me years after moving to JC to make the shift. It's more of a mindset shift than anything. Much of my upbringing was suburban and the mindset in that environment is very clearly "Oh, I have to go somewhere that is not within 100 feet - let's hop in the car!".

Once I started working in Manhattan again, I slowly realized that a car was so much more of a hassle than a convenience. If I recall, you work in the suburbs. I too worked in the suburbs for about 1 year when I first moved to JC - I hated the lifestyle. Hudson County is a terrible area to have to drive to, from, or within.


When I first moved to JC I did so because I was working in lower Manhattan. 2 years later, I got offered a job with a pay raise and much more sophisticated work in Morris County. Trust me, I don't like the traffic, nor do I like the near usurious car insurance bill.

My office is about three miles from the nearest NJT train station. There are no bus stops around here to my knowledge.

My parents (and pretty much my entire family) lives in Monmouth County. My parents live closest to mass transit- which is a 20 minute ride to the train station, and probably about 1.5 miles to the bus stop. Bear in mind, the bus from JC only runs there at rush hours times during the week. No bus runs from JC or Hoboken on the weekend. I typically visit at least once a month. If I go visit my relatives in other spots, they live several miles from the bus and train. I'd have to loop into Manhattan or ask my parents to shlep 20 minutes each way to get me.

I often rent a shore house in Belmar, which is about 15 minute walk to the train. However, the train takes about double the time that it does to drive, because I'd have to transfer at Secaucus or Newark, and then the train inexplicably stops at Long Branch for a long duration. I also make other trips to the beach in the summer and face the problem. It's also more expensive.

I tailgate 7+ home games a year (including spring game this year) for Rutgers. The lot is on Busch. This would require another Newark or Secaucus transfer plus a switch to the Rutgers bus (and carrying tailgaiting supplies). It's also more expensive.

Then, I usually take a handful of road trips every year, Boston, Montreal and Ocean City Maryland among the destinations. I go to Atlantic City a few times a year. Mass transit to those places costs more, and takes more time than gassing up my car. With RU going to the B1G, I will likely be adding in a trip each year to State College or College Park.

If I wasn't going to work in the burbs...I might consider a heavy zipcar subscription (taking into account insurance and gas, it come close to wash from what I have seen but my investigation has been cursory). However, I would still have to drive and really don't want to make coming in and out of town more unpleasant than it already is.

I walk to bars, restaurants, supermarkets (I do drive to Trader Joes on my way home from work sometimes), the mall, friends' places...I take the PATH if I can, I took the train to a Jets game (which probably took close to an hour each direction which goes to show the act NJT has). I haven't driven into NYC in years. I have sat in 33rd and 9th street for seeming hours late at night waiting.

I just don't think you can expect those of us in JC who have some life in more suburban NJ (which makes a up a ton of downtowners) to sacrifice it when NJT and PATH make it quite unpleasant to do so. Christie has been frankly antagonistic towards making service better or cheaper, nevermind the PA.

I'm with you- it's just not practical in 2014 NJ.

Posted on: 2014/1/31 17:49
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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I would consider Washington St in Hoboken or the Green in Morristown a model. Increasingly the part of George St between New and Albany in New Brunswick (but that does have a CH Martin- but just ONE discount store).

The problem isn't A discount store it's that there are so many. Do we really need 3-4 within a 3-4 block span?

And re: traffic, if you cut off Newark St permanently it will push people onto side streets that are mostly residential (aside from Jersey Ave). All of those streets are already backed up.

You can't just pretend like JC off and left for Germany and public transportation is good, cheap, and plentiful. If you live in JC and want to go somewhere not with PATH access, or any place not near an NJT train station...you are SOL. Why this board pretends like the Sbahn awaits instead of the 35 minutes apart PATH and not much better HBLR is mystifying.

Posted on: 2014/1/30 21:10
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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I think the Fri/Sat option is a good one. During the week there is too much traffic. Maybe even do it periodically to test it first.

There is a dollar store at the mall. There is Target. There are bajillion discount places in the Heights.

Why does the main part of the city need so many discount stores?

Posted on: 2014/1/29 21:13
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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Exactly my point mooby. It's different from walking that way to go out to eat or for a drink once in a while. I've walked from there to Zeppelin Hall and to the former Maxwells- but I didn't do either every day.

Posted on: 2014/1/23 20:57
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Re: Christie: Have I ever been angry with Steve Fulop? 'You bet I have' but ...
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Christie plays nice with Stack in UC because he wanted the Hispanic vote. Same thing with the Harrison mayor.

JC has exactly who Christie and Republicans know won't vote for them: the city is 25% black, 25% Asian (voted for Obama in numbers in line with Hispanics), a huge gay community, and a lot of upper-middle class white people with advanced degrees who happen to also be urban- an overwhelmingly liberal constituency.

Another investigation needs to be done into the Port Authority. 3M to a place where they don't operate, how about even 1M so the PATH doesn't run 35 minutes apart at night?

When it comes to constituencies not important to national Republicans, or not part of the Norcross South Jersey machine, Christie tells you to pound sand.

It's no coincidence that he has actively punished nearly every major liberal city in the state, and taken stabs at Rutgers and other liberal bastions.


Posted on: 2014/1/17 18:20
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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I should be clear. The project is 1st-9th st + Pavonia, Bay and Newark Streets. That's more than a 10 min walk.

There's no reason that the only stores in the area with good hours should be in the mall.

Most people in HP use Newport for a reason.

Posted on: 2014/1/17 18:11
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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Grove Street is 10 blocks from the proposed project. That's not walkable on an every day basis.

Funny that people are criticizing the architechture. So true, how can we let this brick building interrupt the pleasant asthetics of the "Bayonne style" two families down Manila...

Posted on: 2014/1/16 18:11
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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Did anyone here actually read the link?

First off, it goes into detail about

1) the developer providing open space because the community wanted it- even though there literally another park a block and a half away

2) The development provides parking. And the mall also rents to HP residents to park. It's very unlikely it will add more street parking.

Second of all, I lived on Manila facing the garage. I had views of the JC skyline and the Freedom Tower, and I was on the third floor. No one is losing their view.

Third of all, did you not notice that Marin would have stores, not a garage? As someone who actually lived right there, and not like some other people that hate every new project, more places to get basic stuff are desperately needed.

It was only once the convenience store opened on 10th and Manila that there was any convenience store opened on a Sunday. Newport Pharmacy is barely open and neither is the convenience store on Erie and 9th. And the restaurant on 10th and Erie (now Vietnamese) and the 8th and Erie (Mexican and before that quasi-Middle Eastern) were constantly in flux. Which only made the mall/Newport harping by people on other side of town of more of a joke than it already was. No, it's not acceptable for us to have to walk all the way down Grove Street to get basic services.

Projects like this are NEEDED. Again- if you want to live in a bucolic suburb, this is NJ- go move there. This is a city. We should have tall buildings with people in them.

The remarks on the sewers and PATH are ridiculous. Not only does NJ specifically not subscribe to "timed growth" but the idea that the 2nd biggest city in the state with 250,000 people cannot handle 300 apartments is a joke.

For all the Brooklyn/Queens comparisons, please call me when their pols turn down development. Thankfully, there like here, the hipster, stroller pusher, force my middle America Ohio lifestyle except with organic food types are overruled by reality.

Posted on: 2014/1/15 19:07
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Re: VERY rich friend divorcing; wants 2 BR luxury rental
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I was rich I'd live in 77 Hudson, Crystal Pointe or one of the Newport highrises. Throwing in Hoboken I would consider the W.

Also re: Hamilton Park...it's not a far walk to the PATH, and it's easy to go through the mall. Yes who needs heat on their walk to work on a day like today...

And buildings with doormen...Parc Hamilton, Hamilton Square, 135 Montgomery, 700 Grove, Zephyr Lofts, and I'm pretty sure most if not all of the Newport buildings and all of the newer places in Exchange have doormen.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 20:52
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Re: Taco Bell coming soon to Jsq!
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I love Taco Bell. And I love real Mexican food. Sometimes I have Dominos and sometimes Rustique. Where can I submit myself to the authorities?

I was told by some Indian college friends that many Indian-Americans enjoy Taco Bell because they feel the spicing is similar. Not in my experience...but hey. Would explain a JSQ location.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 20:37
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Re: Ready for the worst article ever written about Jersey City?
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Yes why would we want what Hoboken has?

Who needs outsiders flooding the town to spend money?

Would much prefer the outsiders we currently have that cross from Newark to commit violent crimes. The risk of carjacking is insignificant. What we really need to avoid is people who might be loud and make noise. Get off my lawn!!!!

The lack of nightlife mainly comes from two things: the "stroller" crowd (who are trying to do the same in Hoboken) and the old timers who are afraid of becoming Hoboken- more because of the cost of the rent, not the noise.

Also Hoboken has a lots of quiet spots. It also has a main street with more bars than dollar and discount stores too.

When JC gets lumped in with Newark instead of Hoboken and NYC, some of our residents only have their own instrasigence to blame. The faster these people move to the suburbs and rail on shopping centers and affordable housing, the better it is for JC.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 20:25
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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The MTA provides bus service when its trains are out (for example when then 7 was closed on weekends).

And when the 7 was closed on weekends, Queens pols were going nuts.

OTOH- Christie orders lanes to the GW closed to punish the mayor of Fort Lee for not endorsing him.

That's the whole problem with the PATH- there is NO mechanism for accountability. Hudson County is written off as a Democratic base, many of the people in JC and Hoboken are not registered to vote there or even in NJ at all- no one cares. Where was Christie, where was Healy (or Zimmer), where was Sires, where were Lautenberg and Menendez (who lives in Hoboken)...nowhere when the PATH was shut for months...no one wants to bite the hand that feeds and the PA is a big time federal and union slush fund that claims to run the WTC, bridges, and PATH.

The Port Authority should be completely abolished and the PATH given local authority by NYC, JC, Hoboken, Harrison and Newark mayors. Perhaps fold in the HBLR. Leave the bridges and tunnels to the states.

And $2.75 is a disgrace...one that Christie and Cuomo signed off on. Damn those teachers, but the PA has a 31M "profit" that doesn't go into the PATH.

And C train...haha...the worst MTA line. Granted PATH is cleaner and doesn't reek of piss. I'd take the piss smell and no 35 minute gap between trains.


Posted on: 2013/12/26 17:33
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Re: Driving into DT at Rush Hour
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I work in Motown and I take the Pulaski or Extension depending on the day. Most of the traffic (not at this time of the year, however) is not around here.

However the morons at the DOT were kind enough to make 139 in each direction one lane for "reverse commuters" during the busiest time of the year, essentially forcing everyone onto the extension (and thru downtown). The obvious way is up Brunswick to my neck of the woods.

However, it's often jammed to make that left, so I have fashioned my own jughandle by making a right and coming up back.

If 139 is backed up, you can get on Newark Ave a couple of times.

I can't even imagine going up through the Heights- 1/9 northbound is a nightmare on weekends.

Posted on: 2013/12/23 17:43
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Re: What does the future hold for The Heights?
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The transfer to the PATH (or schlep down 100 steps through Hoboken) will stymie growth. Though people who want views will check it out. Will be interesting to see if buildings like Troy Towers or Doric up the road in UC develop in the Heights.

If I couldn't be in Downtown or Hoboken, my next choice would be JSQ- and I think most commuters would agree. 24/7 PATH to WTC and 33, right off 1/9, cheap cab to downtown or Hoboken- and some parts you can walk down Newark Ave to downtown anyway.

PATH is better for commuting than the HBLR, despite the HBLR being better run- due to the pathetically low par the PATH sets for itself.

Posted on: 2013/12/18 17:57
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Christie will never survive the primaries south of the Mason Dixon.

He thinks women, gays and immigrants should have some, but not all the rights of others. Far, far too liberal for todays' Republicans.

Not only that, but he had the audacity to work with Democrats instead of following Congressional Republicans lead of running home with the ball when you lose.

All that said, sorry but what is the defense to I didn't like what a mayor did so I decided to fark over his city by ordering a corrupt agency to ruin traffic there? How is that a defensible act?

It shows Christie is as petty and partisan as the big bad teachers union, meanwhile the PA and police unions walk all over us.

Christie is big on cutting taxes, we are told, let allowed PATH fares and tolls to rise...property taxes...HA...$24 million so he doesn't have to face Booker on the same day...

He is the tallest midget in a party where Senate candidates think women's bodies shut down rape. That's a celebrity because they have nothing else.

Who cares what Clinton did. I don't like her. But I'd vote for her over the cesspool on the other side, which isn't about less government or lower taxes. It's about right wing fundamentalist Christians and corporations and neither of whom should have any role in our government.

Posted on: 2013/12/13 18:27
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Re: Development will now be rentals, Grove Street buildings will have 99 units
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I don't mind paying for parking.

I do mind that some residents want to make JC hell on earth for drivers.

Queens and Brooklyn allow street parking free on weekends. I have the right to have guests (I know they are audacious for driving to JC instead of taking our Europe-caliber PT) and not have them have to pay to park in a garage.

Hell when I lived in Manhattan, street parking was free on Saturday nights...

24/7 permit parking would be an unfair nightmare- and it's not working in Hoboken, except if by working, you meant driving business out of town.

Get it through your heads...some people have to come to and from here by car...

Posted on: 2013/12/3 18:35
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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My rec for the re-zoning Candice.

No building/tower/apartment/office structure should be taller than 5 floors measured from ground upward within historic district - Marin Blvd to Division Street from 10th Street to Newark Avenue.

Regarding the rest of downtown (except from Brunswick to Barrow from Columbus to Bright), those are already bombarded with tall skyscrapers within Paulus Hook, Newport and along Grand Street facing Liberty State Park. Too late for those communities.

And stop Tax Abatements for developers in 07302.

If the council approves otherwise, someone is getting paid/influenced etc. etc.

Preserve Hamilton Park.


Preserve Hamilton Park? This spot has a parking lot and is next to a building that is the same height as the proposed development. It's not like they are changing the character of the neighborhood with this development.

I agree on tax abatement though, no one needs extra incentive to build downtown.


Facts have no place in this discussion.

Besides if any of them actually walks over there and sees the parking lot and old age home, they'll probably think it should be another park (after all HP is "stressed", sometimes there are two dogs in the dog run) or a kale garden, or a Whole Foods where anyone who tries to park will need to sign over their first two children to an organic collective.

Posted on: 2013/12/3 18:29
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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But it's called Jersey CITY. C-I-T-Y. Which means we should now strive to emulate what a CITY is in our small brains. Tall buildings and lots and lots of people right? You got mugged? Hey it's a CITY! A homeless person shit in your flower-pots? Hey it's a CITY! The sewer overflowed raw sewage? WTF! It's a CITY! The transportation system sucks? You said it! It's a CITY! We can do worse. No seriously, with enough effort we can definitely make it worse and we're headed in that direction.


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A homeless person shit in your flower-pots?


What messed up city have you recently visited?


I have been to Cairo and Alexandria among others, and even they don't have these kinds of problems.

The exaggeration on this board as to crowding is completely ridiculous.

Posted on: 2013/12/3 18:27
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Re: 400 Unit Development in Hamilton Park
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You don't think there is a difference between Midtown and this proposal?

You do realize all the commercial aspects there?

A 20 story office building generates a lot more traffic than a 20 story condo.

Notice the name of where we live. Jersey CITY. Not Colts Neck. Not Pine Barrens. CITY.

If you live where no towers will ever be, enjoy the inland parts of BL and Greenville. There will eventually be towers on both waterfronts for their entire length, in JSQ around the PATH, and on the cliffs of the Heights.

And that is fine...this is a CITY it should have tall buildings and should feel urban.

Posted on: 2013/12/2 17:21
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Tommy

That is a fair point. But it does seem like supermarkets do want to have parking- Shop Rite and A&P do- only Morton Williams doesn't, and it's the densest area of town. I guess Key Food doesn't either, but it's fairly small, and street parking is doable over there.

Also...remember that they are supposed to be building a HBLR stop at 18th Street. So it would be accessible for walkers, in addition to just those in HP, Newport, and southern Hoboken.

I know someone who lives in the city and shops at our Shop Rite. I don't think he's the only one. And then you have people who are local but who have big families and need a car to lug everything back.

As a single guy it's neither here or there to me. I obviously have a bias in favor of the Tunnel area because I can walk. I would probably have to drive or feel super eager to go anywhere south of Columbus.

Posted on: 2013/11/14 17:34
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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The area near Cast Iron Lofts is not convenient for anybody except maybe people in Hamilton Park, or far southwestern Hoboken.

Having a higher end supermarket in Hoboken or Jersey City is not going to draw too many people coming out of town by car. It won't be attractive to drive to Hoboken or Jersey City, over say, Edgewater. The Holland Tunnel has traffic during the times that most people go shopping. Why would anybody want to drive around there?

A nice supermarket in Jersey City will have to be in a dense area where people would walk to it. The base of 70 Columbus is actually pretty perfect. There is enough scale there to support a market. About 40,000 people live within a 12 minute walk from that location.


It's much easier to get over there than Edgewater. You can come down through the Heights or Hoboken to the north, and everyone else from JC would come up through downtown.

River Road makes 139 look like a picnic at non-rush hour times.

Posted on: 2013/11/13 18:31
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Re: Jersey City to sue Port Authority for $400 million
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The Port Authority is now being investigated because they closed down roads around the GW bridge with no notice because the Fort Lee mayor didn't endorse Christie.

They are the most corrupt political arm in the tri-state area. It seems like they may finally get some comeupance.

Instead of increasing fares, the next govenor should turn down fare increases until the salaries over there are capped and the corrupt appointees are washed out.

Posted on: 2013/11/13 18:26
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Re: Speed cameras = a great way to improve safety and raise money
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And if the pregnant lady is crossing where there isn't a speed camera?

Very few people are going faster than 25 in that area...and people get hit over there because of all the blind spots. Jersey and 8th is a great example of that.

And, there is frequently a cop on Manila by the school stopping people racing down. We already pay the police.

You want to stop people from speeding over there? Fix getting to the tunnel and move things along on Marin, with the proposed pedestrian bridge in the new condo place across from the mall.

The whole HP area is a conduit for emergencies because it's how you get to and from Hoboken and JC Medical Centers.

Posted on: 2013/11/8 21:37
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Re: Speed cameras = a great way to improve safety and raise money
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Yeah, because the whole problem in JC and NJ is not enough money in the public trough to pay no-show public employees and grow the bureaucracy.

It's moronic to have speed cameras...the pregnant wife is the perfect example of why.

Secondly, red light cameras cause more accidents. This would be the same- breaking at the last second.

And many NJ speed limits are abitrarily low. Drive through one of the hundreds of two-bit NJ bergs with 25mph on state highways and tell me how it should be "follow the law."

Red light cameras need to be banned as well.


Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:34
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Re: Soul Flavors is closing
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With the place on Erie closing, we could really use a Mexican take out place in the HP area aside from Taco Bell and Qdoba. I rarely feel like schlepping all the way down to the Grove St area just for food.

Soul Flavors was worth it though...well worth it. Damn.

Posted on: 2013/11/7 21:29
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Re: Steve Fulop says police restructuring, teen recreation, abatements policy top agenda
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LOL

Oh no abatements in JSQ. Yeah because without them, we have all those awesome bodegas and dilapidated shanties providing value to the city.

Who needs JSQ to have expensive condos with people paying PILOTS- which reality check- are probably at least 6k a year which is line with suburbs with good schools and 1/4 acre or better property. No, who needs those professionals and the new businesses they will patronize and the jobs created!

What we need is JSQ to stay as is, a bunch of old time Healyites and an Indian immigrant community bursting at the seams desperate for more space.

It amazes me how the PILOT opponents have no understanding of the system. Here's a little newsflash for you. I pay $6200 a year for a 1 bedroom condo. $6200 when no one living there will likely ever send their kids to a JC public school. My extent of using JC services them taking the garbage from the building and me driving on roads and walking the sidewalk.

Basically the message from the old school pols is this: Don't fix the neighborhoods because it will bring in more "interlopers" who are good at nothing but subsidizing our schools, our pools, and everything else that they will never use because most of them will be in Montclair in a few years. And their 6k plus a year isn't enough to pay for no-show jobs and among the worst schools in the state.

Pathetic, shameless. The gravy train has left the station guys. If you really think Fulop is protecting us interlopers with PILOTS, you are sorely mistaken. His is protecting you for now until the process is looked into and then you will get the hit you deserve- which by the way, won't be as bad with more interlopers in JSQ taking the hit on their 1 bedrooms so the parking authority can employee you and issue more useless fines, or whatever other scheme our tax dollars go to here before Fulop fixes it.

Posted on: 2013/10/10 18:35
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Re: Ginfi Mexican Restaurant - closed
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A Chinese restaurant would do great there. They need something that does good takeout business because it doesn't seem there is enough to sustain a regular restaurant business-look at the Enbankment, versus a place like Rustique that can do takeout better.

Posted on: 2013/10/10 18:19
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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I must have missed the 2.8M condo sold in Newark.

I must have missed the NYT and other publications giving Newark restaurants reviews like the ones for Satis and 30 Acres.

I must have missed Newark having nearly all the tallest buildings in the state.

I must have missed all the variety of newer establishments in Newark, from Michael Kors to Barcade to the Beer Garden to Pole Position.

I must have missed how Newark has a miles long riverfront promendade that can be used to walk to neighboring cities.

Should I go on? Should I cite the crime? Because if you try to throw in Greenville it won't be pretty for Newark.

Comparing Jersey City and Newark is like comparing Chicago and Detroit. Both have their issues, but one has a hugely vibrant and prosperous core and the other does not.

The "Newark isn't that bad" types are just concerned with the ascendance of Jersey City as the state's biggest and most important city. Newark has an airport, pastel de nata, and now Whole Foods, and then a wasteland. Doesn't even come close to what we have.

Posted on: 2013/10/10 18:09
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