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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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I think the hearing was postponed to yesterday-does anyone know what happened?

Posted on: 2009/2/28 15:20
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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL dumps CATs/KiTTENS in Lincoln Park
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Can you please post the name of the officer-i have been posting about Hector Carbajales-who stole $12K from the HCSPCA, left animals to rot at the building after he was arrested for abusing animals. To the best of my knowledge he is still an animal control officer and a scumbag.

Posted on: 2009/2/28 15:04
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Hudsonhorizons-I will relay the message to my source. In the meantime, we'll see where this ends up and what's really going on.

Posted on: 2009/2/23 12:01
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All I wrote in that post was about the court case and btw I do love animals. Not sure where the info on Kolb getting her dogs back came from but Jonathan is going to court today. Keep you updated.


I thought the courtdate was 2/20 as reported : http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... erboels_accused_in_a.html

Is there something else going on today? Grand Jury?

Posted on: 2009/2/18 18:28
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I hope you're right, but I guess we'll see what happens on Friday. They have already moved to a place with a fenced in yard in preparation for the return of these animals.

Posted on: 2009/2/18 18:17
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My understanding is that LHS was informed of the decision.

If someone from LHS would like to weigh in, I think we'd all like to know the facts.

I erroneously reported yesterday that they were finally evicted. In fact, it appears that they moved to the west side as part of a deal to have the dogs in a fenced in yard. I think that is part of the NJ statutes when a dog is found to be potentially dangerous. See NJ Statute 4:19-23. Finding to declare dog potentially dangerous; http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/st ... 9_1_4_19A_17.htm#s4_19_22

Apparently, they went right past a hearing to determine if it was vicious, potentially dangerous, or otherwise, and simply cut a deal behind the public's back. I wonder if the victim's were even informed.

To those on the West Side of JC, enjoy. They're your problem now. You can thank your local prosecutors and judges.

Posted on: 2009/2/18 14:43
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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I have it on good authority that notwithstanding the promise to prosecute this witch for assault, notwithstanding scheduled hearings to determine whether thses dogs are vicious, notwithstanding 3+ attacks on humans, and notwithstanding public outcry:

THE DOGS ARE BEING RELEASED TO KOLB.

Anyone want a puppy? Because they will need to sell a couple to make up for the cash they presumably gave to the prosecutor and judge.

THERE IS NO JUSTICE IN JERSEY CITY.

Posted on: 2009/2/18 11:45
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Your screen name is a little disengenuous. If you truly loved animals you would understand that a dog, like a child is only as good as it's upbringing. Like a child, a dog can eventually overcome it's upbringing and through love and care and alot of hardwork become a well behaved citizen. Take a look at Michael Vick's dogs for instance. Many of them have overcome the depravity that only a sick human would inflict on them. These Mastiffs should be taken away from this woman and probably seperated from each other. A good handler could easily get them to be well behaved, wonderful pets. Crying out for their blood seems a bit too much.
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The case on the 20th is Susan trying to defend her Vicious Dogs...she is trying to prove that they are not vicious and also Susan can be possibly charged with aggravated assault.


Not exactly sure why you're ripping into "loveanimals"--that statement didn't seem to be anti-animal. In any event, I understand the difference between the Vick dogs and these boerboels is that the Vick dogs were vicious towards other dogs, not people (according to the place in Utah--no personal knowledge). The boerboels go after both humans and dogs.

Posted on: 2009/2/17 16:14
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The case on the 20th is Susan trying to defend her Vicious Dogs...she is trying to prove that they are not vicious and also Susan can be possibly charged with aggravated assault.


I understand what the proceeding is, but she requested discovery. I think that is just a status hearing to determine if she is prepared to go to trial. In most courts, a trial date is set thereafter.

By the way, she won't be charged with aggravated assault based upon the Muni Court hearing though--that is a matter for the grand jury and proscutor's office, who may be waiting to see if the Muni Judge rules that they are vicious or not. If the decision is that they are not vicious, likely no criminal charges.

Posted on: 2009/2/17 16:09
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Re: Where can I find affordable Condos?
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You're sh*tting us, right? A small 1 bedroom on Communipaw for $300K????!!!??? Try $200K at most.
I'd also point out that Communipaw runs perpindicular, not parallel to, the waterfront. So I don't understand your formula for $10K for each block closer to the water.

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There are many more sh*tty blocks in JC other than MLK drive. The real pity is that Bergan/Lafayette, Bergen Hill and areas by Lincoln Park are stunning and offer affordable housing but they are just not safe.


I was thinking of Grand and Communipaw as a starting point (not on Communipaw). There are lofts right there that are nice, but in no way is that a safe area. They are $300K+. It's not like this is exactly scientific--I was being illustrative. Go calm down.

Posted on: 2009/2/17 14:35
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I am told that they were finally evicted from Hudson Point--a friend saw Kolb directing movers and a moving van--can anyone confirm? Any idea where they went? Did they skip town?

Also, there is a hearing on for this Friday--is that just a status/scheduling hearing or is that the trial to determine if (confirm that) these dogs are vicious under NJ law?

Posted on: 2009/2/17 13:49
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That's exactly what I was saying-in a much nicer way. I guess that's why I'm not in sales. Thanks avanti.

Posted on: 2009/2/16 21:22
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Yeah-my dad worked for Dixon Ticonderoga when that was their factory. Rats in the factory then and now. I will qualify my comments. If you want to live in something where you can't hear the gunshots through the walls, see my post above.

I don't even want to know what kind of $hithole u bought for $200k, even in this economy.

Although, Dixon Mills IS usually criminal on criminal violence, so you got that going for ya. Don't get caught with hollowpoints-that adds 5 years. Cheers.

Posted on: 2009/2/16 20:14
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Re: Where can I find affordable Condos?
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Great insight there ianmac47. Take your elbow out of the toilet-thats not your ass. If you have something to say, try doing so. Do you think think you get what you don't pay for? Are there magical pixies giving you condos. Take a nap-its been a long day for you.

Posted on: 2009/2/16 19:35
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You get what you pay for. For a small one bedroom, start at Communipaw at $300K and add $10K for every block until you get to the waterfront. Have you even thought of a broker? If this is where you're expecting great RE shopping advice, I'd suggest you keep renting and looking.

Posted on: 2009/2/16 18:54
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Re: NYPD: Drunken Jersey City cop mows down and kills young woman, injures man in lower Manhattan
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Here's the latest on this piece of $hit.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_dwi_death_cop_keep.html

Looks like mama wiped his nose after the hearing.

Posted on: 2009/2/13 14:06
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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Here's the latest-I don't know if 2/20 is the trial date though-probably just a status conference. Remember-the stakes are higher than whether these dogs get put down. If a judge finds that the dogs aren't vicious under NJ law, there will probably be no criminal conviction (or charges) of Kolb:

Paper shuffle puts dog case in slow-mo

Saturday, February 07, 2009
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER
The fates of two allegedly vicious South African boerboels is no closer to being decided after the case hit a snag yesterday in Jersey City Municipal Court.
The owner of the two dogs, Susan Kolb, wants a trial to defend the animals and keep them from being put down under the state's Vicious Dog Law. Kolb's dogs - one weighs 160 pounds, the other 100 - have been accused in at least three attacks on people in Downtown Jersey City.
Her lawyer, Jonathan Goodman, has been unable to obtain the police paperwork because it's been forwarded to the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office, which said a grand jury will determine if Kolb should be charged with aggravated assault.
So a judge postponed the case until Feb. 20 at 1 p.m. to allow time for Goodman and municipal prosecutors to gather the documents. Hudson County First Assistant Prosecutor Guy Gregory said yesterday the matter would be worked out.
Meanwhile, the dogs have been held at the Liberty Humane Society since Jan. 20 and Goodman says the organization has refused to allow Kolb to see them, adding that Kolb is worried that the dogs are not being exercised.
The shelter's director could not be reached for comment last night.
Jonathan L. Rodriguez, 24, of Brunswick Street, says he was injured on Jan. 19 when Kolb unleashed the dogs and they ran across a street and tore into his arm. Kolb said the dogs got away from her.
James Joyce, 24, said he needed six stitches after the dogs attacked him on Jan. 9. Kolb said Joyce was not injured.
On Sept. 21, police said, the two dogs, reportedly unleashed, knocked down a woman and the 6-month-old child she was carrying in a park. Kolb said it was an enclosed park and that she let the dogs loose because she thought it was empty.
The incidents resulted in all four people being taken to hospitals for treatment.

Posted on: 2009/2/8 16:36
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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Any idea which of the corrupt muni judges this is going in front of?

http://www.politickernj.com/wallye/27 ... -city-judge-faces-scandal

Another Jersey City Judge faces scandal

Another Jersey City Judge faces scandalBy Wally Edge
Jersey City Municipal Court Judge Wilson Campbell faces ethics charges for allegedly having an affair with his bailiff, who attempeted suicide after they broke up.
An ethics complaint has been filed against Jersey City Municipal Court Judge Wilson Campbell, who allegedly had an affair with a bailiff assigned to his courtroom. The bailiff attempted suicide last June after breaking up with the Judge, according to the complaint filed by the Advisory Committee on Judicial Conduct. The bailiff has been reassigned to another courtroom and Campbell continues to serve on the bench.

The incident occurred just weeks before former Jersey City Municipal Court Chief Judge Wanda Molina was indicted for fixing parking tickets. Molina is accused of dismissing eight parking tickets for a female companion. She stepped down last year during the initial investigation over ticket fixing, which netted half of Jersey City's municipal judges.

Three other Jersey City Judges have been charges with misconduct as part of the ticket fixing scandal: Victor Sison, Pauline Sica and Irwin Rosen. Also indicted was Virginia Pagan, a former court administrator who allegedly fixed 215 parking tickets for herself and her daughter.

While the Mayor of Jersey City appoints local Judges, with the advise and consent of the City Council, Municipal Court Judges are supervised by the Superior Court Assignment Judge. It might be interesting to see if the Assignment Judge, Maurice Gallipoli, accountable for a scandal that happened on his watch. Gallipoli interviews Campbell on June 28, 2008, two days after the bailiff's alleged suicide attempt.

Posted on: 2009/2/6 13:52
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Here's a new article with a pic of Kolb trying to control those dogs.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... owner_asks_for_trial.html

She appears to be awkwardly holding the dogs back by grasping the bench. Good control there lady.


How does the incessant denigration of this woman's character solve the larger problem? We get the point.

Here's to justice being served.


This has absolutely nothing to do with her character. All I said was that she could not control the dogs. Is that character-related? I feel sorry for her, since I think she got bullied into raising, caring and breeding these dogs by her husband, who has remained silent and absent through all of this. He is the one that's put the neighborhood on edge.

Posted on: 2009/2/4 22:31
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Oh come on, let's not get hysterical now. She's clearly just sitting on the bench and the dogs are completely relaxed - she's not "holding them back" by any means.


Like we've all seen, she wraps the leashes around stuff to stop them from dragging her to the ground (and it all too often does not work). If Jumba leans too far she falls over. That does not look like a comfortable day at the park.

But granted, it could just be a bad photo. Not trying to get hysterical.

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Here's a new article with a pic of Kolb trying to control those dogs.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... owner_asks_for_trial.html

She appears to be awkwardly holding the dogs back by grasping the bench. Good control there lady.

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Here's the latest: http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ffs_owner_appears_in.html


Bullmastiffs' owner appears in Jersey City court after Downtown complaints
by Michaelangelo Conte/The Jersey Journal Tuesday February 03, 2009, 3:44 PM

Reena Rose Sibayan/The Jersey Journal
Susan Kolb, the owner of two Bullmastiffs that police say attacked several people, appears in municipal court in Jersey City today as part of a case that will determine whether the dogs should be deemed vicious.
The two Bullmastiffs, seen in a family photo, that police say attacked several people in Downtown Jersey City, are now at a shelter.The Jersey City woman whose dogs have been impounded since being cited as vicious animals after attacks on residents Downtown was in municipal court today where her lawyer said she wants a trial to defend the dogs against the charges that could result in their being put down.

Susan Kolb's two Bullmastiffs were cited after at least three incidents that sent people to hospitals. She also faces related summonses and a number of possible criminal charges are being considered by the Hudson County Prosecutor's Office.

In court today Kolb's attorney, Jonathan Goodman of Jersey City, asked the judge for time for discovery prior to setting a date for the trial to determine if the dogs are vicious. The judge set Friday at 1 p.m. for a status hearing to assess the attorney's progress and to set a date for the trial.

"Time is of the essence," Goodman said , referencing the fact that the two dogs have been held at the Liberty Humane Society since the last incident.

In court, Kolb said she had been told she couldn't visit the dogs and asked for permission to visit do so. City animal control officers told her that was not a problem.

The incidents before the municipal court are:

*Jonathan L. Rodriguez, 24, of Brunswick Street, was injured on Jan. 19 at Washington Street and Christopher Columbus Drive when he said Kolb unleashed the dogs and they ran across the street and tore into his arm. Kolb maintains the dogs got away from her.

*James Joyce, 24, said he needed six stitches after being attacked on Jan. 9 at Warren and Morris streets. Kolb maintains Joyce was not injured. Joyce attended today's hearing.


Reena Rose Sibayan/The Jersey Journal
Li He, right, and Xiangwei Liu show a picture of their baby, Joyce, taken after Susan Kolb's dogs knocked down the woman who was carrying her.*On Sept. 21 at the park at Greene and Essex streets, police said the two dogs, reportedly unleashed, knocked down a woman and the 6-month-old child she was carrying. Kolb said it was an enclosed park and she let the dogs loose because she thought it was empty.

"I hope she will be punished," Xiangwe Liu, the father of the baby, said.

Liu attended the hearing with his wife, Li He. They brought pictures showing injuries received by their child, Joyce.

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Well Claire, if you had been subjected to harrassment, threats or attacks from the dogs or owners, maybe you'd feel different. You are one of the lucky ones, but I hope you're not saying that you think that everyone on here relating their personal experiences is lying/exaggerating, or that you think all of the people that had to go to the hospital are lying? Isn't it a more likely scenario that they treat their friends in the building better than strangers (because an incident could result in eviction).

I think the consensus is that they shouldn't get the dogs back and they should take responsibility for their actions. No one's calling for a lynching. In fact, I think most would like to see the dogs rehabilitated and out of these people's abusive and inconsiderate hands.

I commend anyone going to the court to make sure a travesty of justice does not occur and make sure they don't get the dogs back.

Posted on: 2009/2/3 0:28
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Friday's Jersey Journal reported that Susan Kolb, the owner of the Paulus Hook mastiffs who attacked a young man, will have a hearing at Jersey City Municipal Court, 365 SUMMIT Ave, on Tuesday, 2/3, at 1 pm.

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerse ... 23330036231670.xml&coll=3

Are there any members who are able to attend? This hearing is a probable cause hearing, where a judge would determine if there is enough proof for the case to proceed to a grand jury and possibly criminal court. Irene, member and lawyer, will try to be there by 1pm. This dog owner has been a problem for other law abiding dog owners.

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K-Lo, It's my understanding that the hearing in JCMC is on totally separate issues from what the HCPO presenting before the Grand Jury.

JCMC, would handle the summons for dog off leash and the state's Vicious Dog Law and any other violations they received. The HCPO gave a statement in that article: "We intend to present the matter to a grand jury for the consideration of possible charges of aggravated assault (against the owner)," Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said yesterday.


Yeah--I don't think she's even entitled to a PC Hearing because they generally takes place after an arrest and before indictment. To the best of my knowledge, no such arrest has occurred. I thought tomorrow was concerning the dogs future. It is important though that the Muni Judge not make some ridiculous ruling that might compromise the Grand Jury, like a ruling that the dogs are not vicious under NJ law. That would muck everything up.

Does anyone have specifics on location--address and courtroom #. I am going to try to attend.

Posted on: 2009/2/2 17:48
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Justice???

Cruelty charges from January 2008 were dropped recently against Zoe Carbajales. Wonderful.

Charges for creating a public nuisance and improper disposal of medical waste have been postponed until a February 20th hearing.

Don't be surprised if they sue to reclaim the old facility.


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I've been following this all along too. I am absolutely outraged that they are still doing animal control under local contracts. And the husband's supposed to be some sort of F'in Minister?! I've read that he also collects disability on the side!? Well, I hope he joins the pedophiles and sodomites in hell, because there do not seem to be any repurcusions for these abusers in Hudson County.

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I have encountered the mother and son many times in the hood and was on edge. I think this is going to be an extremely interesting legal case to follow. Why?

1. They live in a rich area. (I live here and feel poor too, but yes, it is a rich area.)

2. Son has disabilities but seemed to love his walks with these dogs.

3. Dog community will be 50/50 on their opinion.

4. Parents of children with disabilities will 100/100 on how the dogs helped the son.

5. The owner is white and presentable and some of the victims are not. (I am white and do not know any of the victims. I am calling out the media and the white voting powerful contingent on being lenient on white people.)

6. Substantially differing views of events during \"attacks\"

7. Were they really trying to breed them? Breeding large breed dogs in downtown jersey city in a small apartment is a really bad idea. Especially when you have large (plus 100 lbs) dogs in a building that only allows 45lbs dog. The building website states this.

8. If the dogs are put down, what is the effect on the son? Many groups will come out and say that his ability to \"socialize\" was a result of the daily dog walks. I know many local businesses knew them well and went out of their way to explain how great they were.

Again, I have encountered them many a time, sometimes with a toddler walking and sometimes with a stroller and I don\'t know how I feel about it. My current gut is that the dogs helped the son gain confidence, but it was the wrong kind of confidence, (dogs and him intimated people into being friendly) and the dogs were too big given that situation. The repeated \"attacks\" are not helping their situation.

I think either the owner will get out of town leaving the dogs to die, or this is going to court. Since I live in the hood and don\'t want my kids to get hurt I am okay with the dogs being put down. However, I would like to see what a jury of peers thinks.


I have similar concerns that they might get off on sympathy, which is why it's important to remember and for the prosecution and community to know that these are not therapy dogs. I think the families with disabilities are a little more up on what's right for their kids, and having giant untrained dogs in what must be a hellcircus of a home is not therapeutic. In fact, they are wholly untrained monsters. In terms of the kid, they never gave him any boundaries either, and based upon recent events, it is clear he was raised the same way by an abusive father (step?) and lying mother.

I don't really think there is a 50/50 consensus, even in the dog community, where everyone that I've spoken to feels bad that the dogs will likely be put down and would love to see an alternative like the rehab in Utah funded by Michael Vick, but in any event, no one wants to see these horrible people to get the dogs back.

Remember, this is going to Journal Square Municipal and Criminal Courts. I don't really think that being white is going to be a plus in the courts/media in JC. In terms of presentable, I don't really know about that either.

There aren't substantially differing views of what happened. There's the truth and her lies. Hand raised? Loving? More lies. How about the Giant baby!? Or telling the paper they were trained to give kisses!? those dogs were never trained to do a damn thing. And when she said that the 2nd victim was fine, did he injure himself too warranting stitches? Lies lies lies. The 3 attacks are just the ones that resulted in serious injury and were reported to the cops. They've been terrors for a long time.

Yes, they were breeding them, in their "loving caring home" (sarcasm added). See www.jumbaboerboels.com.

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Re: Dogs' owner may be charged with assault - pair of bullmastiffs involved in three alleged attacks
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A 400 lb. dog? Really? C'mon now.

Gorillas weigh 400 lbs. max. Lions weigh like 500 lbs.

These dogs sound like a menace, but exaggerating does nobody any good.

Breathe people.


I meant their combined weight, which is somewhere between 300-400lbs. (and if you want, take 100lbs off the figure--doesn't matter). When they pull, they pull together. Didn't mean to exaggerate, but sorry for the confusion.

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Re: Dogs' owner may be charged with assault - pair of bullmastiffs involved in three alleged attacks
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Toast. Between the witnesses who have come forward and her unbelievably stupid comments to the paper, DeFazio will have zero problem obtaining an indictment.

I guess comments to a reporter are hearsay....any lawyers here? But that doesn't matter in grand jury proceedings.

So friggin' stupid. Would she have been indicted anyway? Probably. But like a moron she basically taunted the victims in print, and did it so specifically that it gives a prosecutor a big fat hook to yank her with...the grand jury is going to say, "Well, I don't know if it's criminal or not, but it's obvious she's lying about aspects of the incidents, so let's just send up a true bill & let the trial jury sort it out"

So when DeFazio says "possible charges", that's just him paying a little heed to proceedure. The PO has decided to hit them with an agg assault charge. That's exactly what they're going to end up standing for or pleading down from.

Nice! I don't know how you prove intent for an agg assault charge, maybe because it was a repeated pattern you could....they let the friggin' dogs try to eat people 6 different times. But agg assault is a 2nd degree crime in Jersey, with a presumption of a custodial sentence if convicted, even if there is no criminal history at all.

Have fun, dummy!

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I will tell you how, and hope DeFazio goes this route, because it's easy. She ways about 100lbs. The dogs weigh about 400lbs. My understanding is that a dog can pull more than 4 times its weight. We in the neighborhood have all seen her brought down by these dogs. She's been dragged on her stomach and back by them. She clearly could not control them.

From there, you just have to prove that she was aware they were prone to attack someone. Well, maybe not the first, arguably (and I don't think so) not the second, but after two attacks, how could anybody (except maybe a jersey city juror) say she didn't know. Sorry for the sarcasm, but this will likely end in a plea deal. She's going to parade her autistic son in there (as she has apparently done at the shelter in an effort to get the dogs), and people will take pity. She deserves none, but it's just the reality of things.

My biggest regret is that the boyfriend/husband isn't being charged. He is the reason the dogs are aggressive. He is the reason they will likely die. And I hope if that happens, they find him in hell.

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Re: Steve Lipski not seeking re-election to his Journal Square council seat
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How about deputy mayor felon idiot kabili tayari, who makes $100K+ a year to give healy the africanamerican vote and gets to steal from the naacp and "forget" to return/pay for rental cars for months without any consequences. CORRUPT CROOK!!!!!

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Re: Christ Hospital apparently threw out dead baby's body with trash
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I agree K-lo. Anyone that thinks a hospital worker threw a baby out purposely is deranged and should be locked up asap for the good of society. They should go sell crazy somewhere else.

Of course they're going to sue. That'll make it all better-big money, fur coats and a lincoln navigator with hot rims will make everything right (note the sarcasm).

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