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Thanks for posting about the Omaha bridge, that's awesome. I just wish it was the NY/NJ area taking the lead on that kind of innovation.
Instead we have people proposing 16 mile underground highways to bring even more cars onto Long Island I'm not convinced building across the Hudson would be that much more difficult. One idea would be to incorporate a gradual gradient approach/descent ramp with a Hudson river skywalk along the river on both sides with elevators/escalators for others. But my background is in economics not engineering so....
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Here's a video fo someone who biked through the tunnel http://youtube.com/watch?v=ceCOy-RM3DU
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While I do agree that it is unlikely to happen the engineering behind it would hardly be a miracle. There are already bridges spanning the river that are tall enough for ships to get under and account for tides and wind. In fact they were built over 50 - 70 years ago, I'm sure technology and engineering has advanced since then. Quote:
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I bike from Jersey City to Manhattan 2 - 3 times a week via the GWB, I don't find it terrifying at all, in fact every time I go across it I am in awe of the view.
Posted on: 2008/1/29 0:38
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I'm not sure how expensive a pedestrian/bike bridge would be relative to other projects (PATH upgrades, new tunnel for NJ Transit etc). I imagine it would be considerably cheaper than a bridge built for car/truck traffic. The engineering wouldn't be a problem, there are plenty of bridges spanning the Hudson in areas just as wide.
It would however coincide with a number of complimentary projects. Manhattan is trying to reduce the amount of cars entering the city, Manhattan has also put a lot of resources into building the Greenway around the Island, the Federal government and private sector have donated heavily to the East Coast Greenway and such a bridge would be a vital link, especially if plans go ahead for the replacement of the Wittpenn Bridge with a multi-lane bike path (designed with the Greenway in mind). I wonder though if such a bridge existed how many people would actually use it for commuting? And also, in nicer weather the Manhattan greenway is packed with everyone from Tourists to city residents, how many of them would use the bridge to check out Jersey City/Hoboken/LSP?
Posted on: 2008/1/28 19:43
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I would like to see the Port Authority build a bike/pedestrian bridge from JC/Hoboken that connects to the West Side Greenway in Manhattan.
My impression is plenty of people would walk, bike across the Hudson right into Manhattan if given the choice/opportunity.
Posted on: 2008/1/26 13:30
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Re: Willie Flood hires son twice for $50G-plus ( Yes, that son )
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The son being charged with numerous drug offenses and then having the county downgrade the charges to simply disorderly persons....
This is a major concern I have. It seems city government has undue influence on decisions being made at the county judicial level.
Posted on: 2007/11/29 17:11
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Re: Journal Square: Attacked, robbed for his beer then attacked again next day by same four men
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Hopefully if he calls the cops they won't beat him up instead
Posted on: 2007/11/10 14:00
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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I just read over the last day the issue with 111 and I am beginning to see things a bit more clearly. There is obviously a lot of overlap and connections between developers, politicians, police force, judges and private security. Looks like if one starts pulling the thread of this drunk cop video a whole lot is going to unravel.
Posted on: 2007/10/16 11:00
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Where do you work? The issue isn't that a few off-duty officers decided to hang out on a weekend and get drunk in public. It's that they were in uniform, had guns and badges and were clearly drunk. I've stated before on this thread that I worked for over 10 years representing union workers and I can tell you that the hardest cases to defend were the ones where workers were caught drinking, drunk or on drugs while working. As many of you know it can be very difficult for an employer to fire a union worker but drinking on the job is almost always a terminable offense. What the union does in a situation like this is tries to save the worker's pension etc. And this is workers who work in warehouses and retail environments, who aren't carrying guns and haven't been empowered by the state by being given a monopoly over violence. The public holds certain professions to a higher standard. We probably wouldn't worry too much if a worker at Macy's was drinking on the job but we clearly wouldn't want our airplane pilot doing that nor someone with a gun.
Posted on: 2007/10/15 22:45
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There's a big difference between citizens drinking in quasi abandoned areas and uniformed officers with guns and badges drunk in public. This issue is also important. 2004 is not a long time ago. How the officers were or were not disciplined sheds light on how this city is run on many levels and until how the city operates is fixed many of these other issues cannot be properly addressed. There have been other incidents involving officers drinking on the job and problems with alcohol while off-duty since this incident happened. The concept of right and wrong within the confines of an organization (be it a company or police department) is informed more by the culture and incentive structure within an organization than what would be considered right and wrong by the larger public or even common sense. This wasn't the case of a lone officer sneaking away to the bar or having a beer with his/her lunch. Rather we see officers very comfortable getting sloshed around one another, not too concerned about being caught or seen by citizens. I would bet that the brazenness of their actions is the result of a culture where that kind of behavior is implicitly encouraged and common to the point where people get lazy and sloppy in how they go about it. We see something similar with half of the Jersey City Municipal Court resigning over fixing parking tickets. The average citizen exercising common sense wonders how affluent, educated individuals whose job it is to hand out justice risks their jobs, reputation and possibly freedom over something as stupid as a parking ticket. Again, the culture of the organization informed their behavior. I'm sure now they are wondering themselves how they got caught up in something so stupid.
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This is simply amazing. These officers were given a slap on the wrist.
In broad daylight, in uniform, with guns they are chugging down hard liquor and walking around trashed. The brazenness of this points to problems within the culture of JCPD. The fact that since this incident other JC police officers have been found drinking on the job shows how the light punishment handed out does little to stop other officers from doing the same. Hey who cares if I get caught, I get to keep my job and just give up a few days of accumulated sick time. As a union rep defending workers employed at distribution centers and warehouses.. drunkenness on the job was almost always a terminable offense. I would expect police officers to be held more accountable than guys unloading trucks all day.
Posted on: 2007/10/14 2:32
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I find the discussion regarding whether or not the video in question is old news or "new" news strange. Similarly why is there concern over the motives of the person who posted it? The video speaks for itself, it is not like the poster made a wild accusation not based in fact.
I asked a few posts ago if any of the long time JC residents on here know the approximate time/date this happened. I have searched through the local media going back to 2000 and haven't seen anything on this. Ive also lived here since 2000 and don't recall ever hearing about this.
Posted on: 2007/10/10 14:04
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I agree the post is relevant even if it happened a few years ago and I thank those who have posted it.
Maybe it would be a non-issue if we were not reading about police misconduct (with 2 incidents involving alcohol in the past year) all the time in the local press. It is also important for citizens of this city to know what happened to the officers involved in this video and that may shed some light as to why Jersey City seems to have a high number of incidents of police misconduct relative to the size of the force.
Posted on: 2007/10/9 14:19
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I've been searching the long-term archives and have been unable to find anything about this incident. Does anyone have more details, specific dates this would have been in the news. In my search this is all I come up with (I searched from 2000 onward, just a few quick searches):
2007/05/16 MICHAELANGELO CONTE, JOURNAL STAFF WRITER A highly decorated Jersey City police officer was found drinking a beer in his marked patrol car yesterday afternoon and was issued a summons and allowed to go on paid leave, officials said. Charles Casserly, 53, was found drinking while on duty early yesterday afternoon by Internal Affairs officers who got a tip, said city spokesman Stan H. Eason. The 28-year veteran of the department was issued a summons for driving with an...
Posted on: 2007/10/9 2:43
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Seems there is always a "plan b" or a nice safety net for the "bad cops" to fall back on.
Posted on: 2007/10/9 2:34
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When I was a union representative that handled worker grievances drinking on the job was almost always a terminable offense (it was rare that there were mitigating circumstances). In fact workers (this was at a retail distribution center) were disciplined on a number of occasions for actions they took while not clocked in.
A 60-90 day suspension seems to be a light punishment for what appears to be happening in the video. Regardless that these guys were working on a private detail they had police uniforms on, were carrying weapons and the driver seemed to be one of the ones drinking too. Again, when you see this type of brazenness it usually means there are institutional and cultural factors which engender it. Maybe a tougher attitude towards drunkenness & alcohol abuse could have saved the baby and mother who was killed by the drunk off-duty officer not so long ago.
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County prosecutor takes over case of man who says cops beat him
by Michaelangelo Conte Friday October 05, 2007, 10:48 AM The case of a Jersey City man injured by police officers responding to his call for help during a burglary was to proceed in municipal court today but the parties showed up only to learn the case has been taken over by the county prosecutor's office. "It involves an allegation touching on internal affairs and it will be reviewed for determination as to what is the appropriate venue for disposition," Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said. Mathias Bolton, 34, of Palisade Avenue, has said that on Aug. 20 he called police when he heard a noise on his roof and saw two men trying to break in. He then went down four flights to open the front door because there is no bell. At the door Bolton found Jersey City Police Officers Kevin Hill and Victor Vargas running toward him and thought they were with the burglars. Vargas and Hill apparently thought Bolton was a fleeing burglar. The cops said they identified themselves. Bolton said they did not. The officers grabbed him and knocked him to the ground after one officer repeatedly punched him in the head, Bolton says. The police report said that when police cruisers arrived, Bolton said: "Get the (expletive) off me. Who are you guys?" and that after the uniformed officers arrived on the scene, Bolton said, "OK, I give up. I'm sorry" and was taken to the police station and then to the hospital. Bolton was originally charged with aggravated assault on police officers and resisting arrest but those charges were downgraded to disorderly persons offenses and remanded to municipal court. Bolton then filed aggravated assault charges against the cops and asked the judge for a change of venue. DeFazio said his office will look into the matter to determine if the charges against the officers should be pursued as a criminal matter, or as an administrative matter only. See more in Courts, Crime, Jersey City
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