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Re: NYPD sued for the "arrest" of a Photographer...
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FERRETFERRET wrote:
Curious why the the original poster chose to put the word "arrest" in quotes in the subject line of the post.

If you'd like to editorialize, brian darling, we're all ears. Do try to be a man about it.


I put the word in quotes because some articles say he was cuffed and some didn't mention it, so I'm not sure if it's speculation or not. Please don't call me darling.

Posted on: 2007/12/8 7:37
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Re: NYPD sued for the "arrest" of a Photographer...
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This has been a topic of debate amongst many of my friends and colleagues. I was curious to see what people think about this on jclist.

Personally, I find it annoying that the cops need to step in on a photoshoot and ask to see your paperwork. But, i understand where they come from, and respect the times that we live in. The cops are just trying to do their job.

I'm a little pissed at this kid for creating such a media craze trying to make this a race issue, when myself, and many friends who are white have been stopped by police for the same reason.

I'm curious to hear the details of the arrest...
Any artist, student or professional knows that you cannot shoot in NYC on a tripod or with certain equipment without a permit. Photo permits in NY are very easy to get, it's not that big of a deal, esp. if you are a student. It's kind of idiotic, and seems shady. Besides the fact that everyone knows you can't film subway trains. If you are planning to shoot over 300 subway stations in ten days, wouldn't you look into the legality of such a big plan?

I'd be curious to see the details of the arrest. Did the kid cooperate, or was it another, "Don't tase me, bro" type of a stunt? I can see this playing out that the police approached him, and he reacted in a uncooperative manner. I've seen this happen before, where the cops will stop you and ask to see your photos. But, just as a traffic stop, if you start giving the cop lip, or start acting suspicious, or try to run, they will assume that you are up to something. Now I wasn't there, so i can't say how the kid reacted, but no article seems to mention it at all.

I agree that people shouldn't be able to take pictures of the subway system without a permit, but it might help if the city put up some signs to keep idiots like this guy from getting themselves into trouble.

Posted on: 2007/12/8 7:30
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NYPD sued for the "arrest" of a Photographer...
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NYPD sued for arrest of student photographer
Civil Liberties Union charges police targeted him because of race
by joshua rhett miller / metro new york

DEC 7, 2007
MANHATTAN. The New York Civil Liberties Union sued the NYPD Thursday, alleging that officers unlawfully handcuffed a Columbia University graduate student who was photographing a Manhattan subway station.

According to the suit, which was filed in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, Arun Wiita, 26, was detained in July after an officer spotted him using a digital camera near 207th Street and Tenth Avenue. Wiita, of New Jersey, is seeking compensatory damages and reimbursement of legal fees.

?Mr. Wiita?s arrest came within hours of his having embarked upon a carefully planned 10-day project to photograph all 468 subway stations,? the lawsuit read. ?Though he was subsequently released without formal charges, Mr. Wiita was humiliated and confused by the arrest, and he believes that he was targeted in part because of his South Asian or Middle Eastern appearance.?

The lawsuit marks the second time the NYCLU has challenged the way the city interacts with photographers. The city reached a settlement earlier this year with award-winning documentarian Rakesh Sharma, who was detained for filming with a handheld camera on a Manhattan street.

?In our society, people have a clear right to document activity in public places without being hassled by the police,? said Donna Lieberman, NYCLU executive director.

Police sources said officers question people photographing the city?s rail infrastructure on ?rare occasions,? citing instances in which law enforcement officials have identified men taking photographs of city bridges and subways as Iranian intelligence agents and suspected Pakistani terrorists who were stopped by police while taking pictures of the Brooklyn and Williamsburg bridges.

?I was surprised and upset that I could be handcuffed on the street for taking a photograph,? Wiita said. ?What was really disheartening was that I knew this has probably happened before and that it could happen again to anyone.?

Posted on: 2007/12/8 7:00
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Sefzi.

I have to say, I'm ready to agree to disagree, lol. Because I'm simply getting tired of all the back and forth.

Im not just bringing this issue up because it is personally effecting me now, I've been posting about this problem for awhile on other threads, so don't make the assumption that this issue just dawned on me last week. But it IS my home, and I'm going to fight for it. That's just the kind of person i am.

I'm not dis'ing on other neighborhoods, but looking toward the future, it would suck to have to keep moving every few years because the next apt goes up, then the next, then the next, know what i mean. Where does it end? And this problem will effect so many people in many neighborhoods. I hope it all settles fast, so the number of people displaced isn't that big.

And yeah, to be honest, i grew up in a bad neighborhood, I work my ass off, and really don't want all that hard work to put me back into that. I'm not one of those white guys who grew up in ohio and feels guilty about my upbringing, and then moves to a rough neighborhood to prove something. But for real, my main concern is commuting time. And yeah, in VVP the commute into NY is cake.

I understand your points, and where you're coming from, and i think you feel the same about my position. I think you are somewhat missing my intentions, but that's alright, it's only JC list. What would the fun be if everyone agreed with you?

I'm going to try and stick it out in JC for as long as I can. I have so much invested here, besides giving a lot back to JC, I have a ton of friends and family here. I'm jersey through and through, I'm sure i'll figure something out.

Honestly I think the next few years might be tough on many people in JC, but really thinking about it, it should flatten out, as I agree with thriftyt.

Start doing your homework, because I'm sure we'll have some nice exchanges when the election grows closer. lol.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 6:06
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Re: my pics of Jersey City's Ron English art opening
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Cool, I've been a fan of his since HS, he was a big inspiration to me when i was coming up as an artist. I used to love his billboards.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 5:31
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Re: my pics of Jersey City's Ron English art opening
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Ron English is awesome.

Does he still have a studio in JC?

Posted on: 2007/12/5 5:09
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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NO. they are 500k. Call some of the condos.
For an ex. grove pt., A studio RENTAL 500 sq ft, rents for 2100 a month. Studio condos from 480- 550k.

I'm not making it, up.

Sefzi, you're taking this personally, and it's not.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 3:06
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Sefzi.

I make the real estate joke, and yes, it's a joke, because you seemed to lash out so passionately about something that will soon effect your rent prices, eventhough I don't actually believe you when you say you rent. Because I'm sorry, no one wants to pay more for something. It's just human nature.

Yes, people all over the country commute more than 45 minutes. But it's for other reasons. I'm sure if I had a wife and two kids, my priorities with housing would be different.

Yes, it is happening fast, how can you possibly disagree? Look around at the construction in Jersey City...The JC skyline is changing by the day...I'm not making this up. And yes, my rent, personally has gone up almost 45% in less than 5 years. That's moving quickly...

Yes, Real estate companies are driving pricing changes. Are they 100% to blame, no, but they are a major part of it. They are building this community up with publicity and lifestyle ads that are attracting buyers not familiar with the community and pushing what i belive is a "fake" jersey city. Just as people love to hate on walmart for their expansion, and what it does to local communities, the real estate companies in jersey city are doing the same thing, except, they are offering higher prices instead of lower ones. All these new condos are not working off jersey city prices, they are working off NYC ones, and they are trying very hard to sell JC as an area that it hasn't developed into yet. They are the ones setting prices, all following each other. And no, people aren't buying them as fast as they thought. Some places are not even %40 full, when they've been open for a few months, and have been advertising for over 2 years. I'm pretty sure it's because their prices are too high. They aren't market prices, they are trying to inflate the market price themselves. I'm pretty sure that when these places go a few years of being half capacity, the prices will fall, But it doesn't help the situation now.

Yes, who are the people buying 500 sq ft. condos for 500k? It's not even the case of being able to afford it or not. If I hit the lottery tomorrow, and had 500k cash in hand, I WOULD NEVER buy a 500 sq ft studio apt in JERSEY CITY for that price. I ask the question because i have yet to hear from or meet someone who has. I'd be curious to hear their reasoning.

Read the rest of the thread. Read the article brewster posted. I'm not making up the fact that middle class home are vanishing from the NY area. I'm not too lazy to find them, and like I've mentioned before, the prices are getting so high in JC, they are coming too close to manhattan prices. This is only going to hurt Jersey City. If someone has the choice to live in jersey city, 30 minutes from their job, or pay $100 more and live in manhattan, most people will choose manhattan. That's why I'm saying I think JC is getting ahead of itself. And yes, middleclass people should be entitled to live close to their jobs in affordable housing. Yes, it is wrong that an entire city, and surrounding area is priced that just the wealthy can live there. And it IS destroying the fabric and history of the area.

The only luxury condos going up are on the waterfront??? NO. look at the beacon, look at the new condos in bayonne and on the west side.

Of course I'm going to look at this problem with an emotional attachment. I have an emotional attachment to Jersey City. It's where my family is from.

I like how you just had to throw in the BUSH administration. Like he is responsible for rising prices in JC. And you think I'm detached? You think things would be different if John Kerry was president? Please. Save your garbage liberal agenda for you conspiracy websites. For as much as you pat yourself on the back for raging against the machine, you seem to defend the "capitalist pigs" with an army of quotes sticking up for them. And in no way does my republican vote mean that i support kicking people out of their homes and destroying the middle class. Stop believing all that liberal propaganda. It's just their way of trying to make republicans look bad, and it's total BS.

That's great you think golf is for "A$$hole republicans". It shows how screwed up your thinking is. Like people who vote democrat don't play golf. And how everyone who doesn't vote the way you do is an a$$hole. You are a snob. You're a snob for thinking that you know more about economics than i do when your political agenda clouds your thinking. When you think you are smarter than someone just because they look at a problem from a different perspective. Your an idiot for thinking it's weird that I'm complaining about my rent going up 22% in one year. I love the fact that you think it's strange that I'm an artist and I vote republican. I wonder what you'd think if you found out i was in the army as well. You need to get over the weird, perverted propaganda from your liberal constituents and lose the romantic idea that all liberals are creatives, and vice versa.

But if you believe so strongly that the pricing should go up in JC, why not contact your landlord tomorrow and ask he or she increase your rent 22%.

Posted on: 2007/12/5 1:46
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Stefzi,

Wow, I can't disagree with you more.

What Realestate Agency do you work for ?

No seriously, how much property do you own in JC?

No, im serious, what agency do you work for, because A post like that means one of two things, you're a total snob, or you work for a realestate agency...

This whole thing isn't just about me, I'm using myself as an example to a large part of this community.

There are so many things that you said in the last post that are just BS, im not going to go through every one.

I don't care if this problem has been around for 100 years. It's a problem, and i'm going to voice my opinion about it.

I'm sorry I don't make 150k a year. SNOB. Maybe you should tell everyone under 30 to leave to make room for all your golf buddies.

I'm sorry, but that isn't what Jersey City is about. You don't tell people to leave if they complain about their rent going up. That's just being ann a$$.

The hypocrites on this site....it's amazing... THank god the people that I know personally in this city are not like the people on this site.

Posted on: 2007/12/4 4:48
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Brewster, I totally agree with you, this is not a new thing, and wow, that article is pretty funny. It could be published today and still feel relevant. And to me, there's the problem.

But again, I raise the questions of what is the breaking point. I mean, yeah the lower east side was the new soho, then willimasburg was the new les, now parkslope is the new Willaimsburg, bushwick is the new park slope, blahblah and somehwere Jersey City fits into this mess. But when does it stop, i mean, it seems this mentality won't stop until Easton, PA is the new hotspot, and? everyone is getting priced out of rhode island. But all kidding aside, there is a zero barrier, so to speak, of how far people can go. It's sort of a numbers game; if you need to be in manhattan for your job, but there is a 45 minute cloud around the city that is unaffordable for the middle class, what do you do?

And it's happening too fast. Prices are rising in NJ in some cases, not because the neighborhoods have changed, but because real estate developers are "expecting" a change or are selling the "future" of a neighborhood. Prices all over hudson county are rising drastically because of what's happening in JC, and some of those areas do not have the ease of transportation that JC boasts.

And also, like I said before, who are the people moving into the 500 sq ft studios in jc that cost 500k? I can tell you now, they aren't young professionals, like people assume.

Im glad in 1997 you made the move to JC, it was smart on your part, but still 11 years ago, there were close alternatives to manhattan that were affordable. I would have definitely jumped on that train except in 1997, i was a junior in highschool. Because of the real estate boom, there aren't any close alternatives anymore. And to me, that's killing the very spirit of the new york area. I think in a few years, the new york city area will be just people in their 40s, and a small amount of rich kids, because no one else will be able to afford it.

Look around in JC, every new building going up is a "luxury" condo building. There is nothing going up saying affordable housing. So it brings up the point, what can we do about it? Do we lobby for government assistance for middle class citizens? Do we protest? Do we demand sanctions that require a certain amount of units designated to be "affordable". It's a shame, and I know its nothing new, but the real estate developers are to blame. They aren't thinking with the people in mind, they just want to cash in and bounce. I think that everyone buying into this gold coast idea, and purchasing 500-750k condos like lottery tickets are going to be in for a shocking surprise when that "idea" doesn't materialize.

Posted on: 2007/12/4 1:08
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Re: New forum: President 2008
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I think having a forum for the election is a good way to pool all the political discussion into one place instead of having it spread through numerous posts.

But, by going out and saying that the website openly supports one candidate... Won't that somewhat influence or even degrade the concept of an "open forum" ?

I think by saying the website is Pro one way or another, might stop people who are opposed to that chain of thought from posting their ideas on this site, thus making it a somewhat biased forum.

Posted on: 2007/12/3 3:42
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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When first posting this topic, I really expected to get a response something like this... " Yeah, sorry to hear that, that really sucks, prices in this town are really getting out of control."

But instead, the majority of the posts responding seemed to stick up for the very thing most people complain about in our city, and that's rising prices. It turned into a few people taking sucker punches and trying to push their political agenda, instead of talking about a problem that can start to effect many people in the community. I enjoy debating politics, yes, and some people on this site, and myself, have gotten into some pretty heated debates, and I think that's great. But a time and a place, ya know.

I understand that some of the older people in downtown JC who "got in early", and own property are loving the fact that their "investments" are sky rocketing right now. But there is a population of people in downtown JC that are having the same issues that I am. I guess you can say we are young urban professionals, but we aren't exactly "hoboken types", if you know what i mean. I'm sure that people on the street who don't know me will probably put me into the category of the people who are part of the "gentrification" of JC eventhough i don't really consider myself part of it. I do though, feel very connected to the city; have family, and a long history here.

But all the huge luxury condos going up are overall effecting the pricing of all of jersey city in ways i never imagined. Mostly all of the "luxury" condos and apts going up in JC are well out of reach for people under 30 that don't have filthy rich parents. But this problem isn't only in JC; brooklyn, manhattan, and queens, the same thing is happening. It raises a big question to a lot of people my age. Where the hell are we supposed to live? What will it be like in 5 years? At the rate everything is going you'll have to be a millionaire to live here. I think the speed of everything is what the major problem is.

Many people I know are in the same position. People a few years out of college who work at some big companies in ny or are people driving the ny art industry are having major problems finding places to live that are close to their jobs and the culture they are a part of or help survive. Finding rental units are becoming difficult alone, as most are turning into condos that are over 4 and 500k for a studio. I mean, how many 20 somethings have 50g's to put down on a condo???
Look up rental prices in downtown JC. Look at some of the prices of the new buildings going up. Grove Point with an "e", 2100 for a 500 sq ft studio... That's just insane.

I know that this is nothing new, but I feel recently, and in the near future, the bar is being raised so high here that it will inevitably force out more people than most believe, and might come back to bite EVERYONE in the a$$. I mean, when will it all stop. Will prices ever be too high? Who is moving into these 500 square ft. condos for 500k?

To the people who have "gotten in early" would you be willing or able to move here now, with the way things are priced? Or even yet, if you were, say 25, (to take an avg) and had to live close to NY, would you be able to live here?

Posted on: 2007/12/3 3:28
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Re: Local Rental Scam you should know about
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Hey CC,
Thanks for pointing that out. It isn't something unheard of, but it seems like schemes like this always come in spurts. Thanks for giving the heads up. I hope you contacted all the websites an companies "involved" to make them aware that people are using their sites or company names for scams.

This reminds me of similar schemes on craigslist involving sporting event tickets. Where someone who claims to have tickets for an event, and then has a fake website set up that looks like a team ticket brokerage site. Red flags go up, and the majority of people don't fall for it. But some people who aren't familiar with the buying process might.

Posted on: 2007/12/3 1:33
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Matt,

Thanks for the constructive post, I appreciate it.

Posted on: 2007/11/30 20:05
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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I can show you several apt in manhattan under 2200.

The 2200 number wasn't mine, I was posting about a number someone else wrote to make an example.

Losing a home that you've lived in for 4 years sucks, bro. Thanks for rubbing salt on the wound, a$$.

Markets are markets??? Are you F'n kidding me? You seriously think it's cool that a 600sq studio "condo" on newark ave in jC should cost 550k?

I love my neighborhood, learn how to read. I was reffering to several articles in magazines and posts on this site that refer to JC as the "Hip, new cool place to live". You would get that if you had more than 12 posts, and where actually on this site for the right reasons.

I'm a freakshow because I'm an artist who votes republican? Number one, are you stalking me? Number two, what perverted, tunnel vision world do you live in where my job has to dictate which way I'm supposed to vote?

Hell yeah, I'm entitled. I'm entitled to a normal rent increase. Not something so drastic that makes it unaffordable. I'm entitled to live in my home with out having to deal with this bs. I grew up in this area, and yeah, I'm entitled to live close to my family and my job.

I'm also entitled to tell you to watch your words and your attitude, before they get you into trouble. But i guess your life is that pathetic that you have to vent somehow.

Thanks for your wonderful, constructive post. You really set me straight. I'm now going to move from my home and start voting the way you think i should.

Take your 12 posts and shove them up your A$$.

Posted on: 2007/11/30 6:28
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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2200 might be small change to the trust funders on JC list, but if you just take that number, and a little common sense about housing. Say your housing cost should be around 1 week's salary. (which is pretty much the standard). And please don't quote me on this, im just "ballparking" this idea...

But if you live in a place that costs you 2200/month. Your yearly salary should = around 114,000/year. That basically eliminates anyone under the age of thirty who can afford that and live comfortably. And definitely is considered on the high end for an apt. Granted it's not movie star money, but it's not a cop's salary either.

And yes, they may not be exactly equal, but JC prices are getting almost too close to the prices of manhattan. And for what reason? What major improvements have been made to the area in the last 5 years that justifies such a dramatic shift in pricing?

The pricing is being dictated by these fake-estate developers, and now is being followed by greedy landlords looking to cash in on an area that is deemed "cool" by everyone else except the people that live here.

For me the equation is simple, all i ask for is a place close to my work, that is relatively safe, and easily accessible to to mass transit, and now I'm probably going to be forced to move farther away from my job, away from my home, for what?

Posted on: 2007/11/30 5:30
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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I agree, I was merely trying to show that the increase is a HUGE step up in price...

Posted on: 2007/11/29 20:59
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Jcase...

Hypothetically,
Take your rent, then add almost 400 to it... Can you afford to live there now?

Posted on: 2007/11/29 20:16
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Sigh, I never said ALL of JERSEY CITY is more EXPENSIVE than ALL of MANHATTAN. WHat i AM saying is WITH THE RENT INCREASE ON MY APT, IT IS NOW IN THE PRICE RANGE OF A LOT OF APT'S IN MANHATTAN. I wasn't making a general statement about every apartment in Jersey CIty. I was simply refering to my situation.

Am i moving to NY? NO. I was trying to make the point of how greedy and obnoxious my landlord is being by trying to cash in even more on the "realestate boom" in jersey city.

Posted on: 2007/11/29 19:58
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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In regard to price, I wasn't making a general statement about realestate in Jersey CIty to Manhattan. I was talking about MY position. With a 22% increase to my rent in Jersey City, it is now > or = to living in manhattan. I don't want to get into details, but if i gave you the dollar amount, you'd understand what im talking about.

Posted on: 2007/11/29 19:51
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Re: 22% Increase, VVP section
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Thanks, I will check that out, but I don't think there are enough units in my building to fit into those laws, but i will check.

On another note: It live in JC because it's supposed to be cheaper than Manhattan, where i work. But after a 22% increase, it's now more expensive to live in jersey city, than most parts of manhattan.

Posted on: 2007/11/29 18:40
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Since Sept my entire building has been dealing with
significant issues with our heating & plumbing & and a follow-up building wide court case (Still pending). Thats the simple
version. We've learned that some of the tentant's
leases are up in January, Landlord has actually
allowed us to renew. (Much to our surprise)

We've been at this location for 4 years now, with
little event and the standard yearly rent increases
from 3%-6%.

Here comes the trick part, the increase in rent this year is 22%. Is this legal?

Posted on: 2007/11/29 18:30
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Re: Downtown: two more 48-story towers and a hotel a go - but Planning Board wants a dog run
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I am a dog owner myself, and don't get me wrong, I love my dog, but a lot of people in this city are dog crazy, and it's so annoying. I much rather have some open grass where HUMANS can throw a football around or something, than use the space for a dog run.

Posted on: 2007/11/21 0:11
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Re: Downtown: two more 48-story towers and a hotel a go - but Planning Board wants a dog run
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More dog runs for everybody! We need more dog runs. I'm telling you, bulldoze all the parking lots in jersey city and build dog runs over them. Who needs schools. They are just wasted space where dog runs should be placed.

COLD HARD TRUTH for all these people moving to JC who are used to living in rural areas. You are moving to a city! DEAL WITH IT. If you have a huge dog, don't move into a highrise apartment building and expect the city to figure out where your dog should take a crap.

Posted on: 2007/11/20 5:54
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Re: St. Lucy's Shelter
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Sal,
What a pretentious hipster response to people in the community that want to do something positive. I remember why I laugh at this site too, b/c of self richeous idiots like yourself.

Yeah, the holidays are comming up, and people want to help out ones less fortunate than themselves. I'd love to hear all the ways that you help out the homeless all year round?

Get over yourself.

Posted on: 2007/11/15 5:41
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Re: Wayne & Barrow: Gambling Bust at the Hernandez Mini Market by the Special Investigations unit
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Im curious to what type of "gambling" ring they had going on there. I think there's a big difference bewtween running numbers and booking a football pool. Maybe the cops just wanted to get in there and shake some things around and see what comes up.

Posted on: 2007/11/14 5:18
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Re: Chicago Sun Times: A 'great city' rises in Jersey
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Yeah, it's great that JC is getting some press in other areas, but Newport isn't the best representation of Jersey City...

Posted on: 2007/11/5 3:39
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Re: FBI raids Arabic deli on Grove St.
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This is why we need strict immagration laws.

The one arm man was always nice to me, but I felt like a traitor when I realized that their store was funding a terrorist group in pakistan. I think of all the money I have spent there and how it was going to fund radical islamist groups that kill innocent people.

I will never ever shop there again, and I'm surprised it is still open.

I'm also surprised that people on this site are not trying to blame this on George Bush.

Posted on: 2007/11/3 5:09
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Re: Parking Authority told not to blow "horn" while writing tickets
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Someone in my building was already booted with the new system for "Not having a Permit" but the permit is clearly visible in his car. He was forced to pay the boot and now has to go to court to "get the money back".

Parking is becoming a HUGE problem...What do we do?

Posted on: 2007/10/30 4:03
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Re: Noon Today -- Affordable housing discussion at St. Peter's College -- Thursday October 25
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Why do they have meetings like this at 12 pm on a thursday???? People have jobs....

Posted on: 2007/10/25 20:18
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