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i think you people are complaining far too much,Its public transportationand thats what you get,the public a bunch of selfish idiots that dont care about one another.

Riding public transit is one of the least selfish acts. People who drive on the publicly funded highways -- highways we all pay for whether or not we use them -- are far more selfish. Drivers are a higher risk of accidentally killing someone. They spend tax dollars on emergency response when their vehicles crash. Per mile traveled, they cost taxpayers more in new capital projects and maintenance. They use a high portion of global resources. So really it seems to me that the people riding transit are the ones who deserve the praise for their selflessness.

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Crazy_Chester wrote:
These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.

It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

Simple... you want things from government, taxes are needed to pay for those things... I want police, fire protection, schools with good teachers, properly paved roads, and all the other things that we expect from government, and I'm willing to pay my fair share.

Problem is, you're not getting any of those things from the government. Are you blind?

We were, I'll grant you it wasn't perfect. But the moment a certain Grover Norquist, and a whole party decided to make cutting taxes their only mantra, things really started going downhill.

Taxing will only get you so far, friend.

You are going to run out of other people's money.

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These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.

It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

Simple... you want things from government, taxes are needed to pay for those things... I want police, fire protection, schools with good teachers, properly paved roads, and all the other things that we expect from government, and I'm willing to pay my fair share.

Problem is, you're not getting any of those things from the government. Are you blind?

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These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.

It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

vindication15 wrote:
Life is not fair but people should strive for fairness. That is why we have a legal system here that presupposes innocence until proven guilty right?

And actually, the only thing stopping me from moving is myself and a few thousand dollars of moving money....

And Adonis - yes, f the 99%....Can you put that on a tshirt and tell me how many you can sell? So it's the addicted druggies fault because drugs are so prevalent? It's the illegals fault for wanting to come to a free country and work for 2 dollars an hour to feed a family? Don't blame the drug dealers or the employers at all....the same way we don't blame the govt for not setting a standard so every single state either pays no tax or pays tax on online purchases. That makes sense...

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It's unfair that some residents in some states pay sales tax on online transactions and others don't. Either we all pay or we all don't...

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Holy f$^k those reviews on yelp on the sweetbread... this is why NJ gets #OOPS#ing laughed at.

I'm sure there are a ton of people outside the south that have no idea what sweetbreads are.

Go into any town in the south and see how many people know what cavatelli is, or manicotti (especially when you pronounce it properly).

Yvonne wrote:
An atheist will never be elected to an higher political office. I mean President, Senate, or Governor. The masses do not trust anyone who doesn't pray to God for guidance. I personally would not want a surgeon operating on me without faith in God.

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i certainly have never implied any need for anyone to be "extra tolerant to religious people that believe in god."

I only think that everyone should be allowed to have any beliefs they want - in god, the spaghetti monster, or superman.

But it seems that (other than Rorsch, who seems openminded), the Atheists on this board don't seem to believe that anyone who is religious has the right to have their own beliefs - and to not get ridiculed for them.

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Hi MScottC!

Glad you're happily married! (isn't modern marraige a construct of religions? or do you have a civil union?)

And obviously, you're a smart guy, and I don't doubt that we'd have a great discussion.

Having said that, here are your words (not mine):
"Of course who ever claimed belief in a mythological "all powerful old man up in the sky who controls everything" was sensible? Oh wait, all you believers." Thanks for the insult.

"It also is a great method to control the masses." I'm not being controlled, thanks.

"Bullshit... Atheists have never once asked you not to believe in god. We've never stopped you from partaking in your religion. " Sure, you've never stopped me, but so far, you've continually insulted me, while i've done nothing of the sort to you.

and for: "Please don't pretend to understand what Atheists do and don't do..... And I'd tend to believe our minds are open to a whole lot more as we aren't slaves to the thoughts of the clerics ruling our lives and our thought processes." Wow - i haven't pretended anything about what Atheists do and don't do. Neither should you judge me... as for being a slave? No, not that either, once again, thanks for the insult.

"....treat others like I want to be treated. " So, you can posture as being better than others since you're an Atheist, but no one else can make a comment about Atheism? And you can insult anyone who doesn't agree with you? Hmmm... interesting beliefs!

Not here to get in a fight, I'm just pointing out where I think you're being a tad hypocritical.

Have a nice day!

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People on this website sometimes have selective memories, millions died in communist atheist country called the Soviet Union. This former empire outlawed religion, killed more than 1,200 priests, stole church property and it estimated to have murdered 20 million people. It encouraged children to turn it their members if the children discovered their families saying or teaching prayers. Neither, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini were religious figures, two of them were known atheists but they slaughter millions. The death figures are staggering over 60 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties million people died. While the Catholic Church is facing scandal now as it did in the past, more young men are entering the seminary. http://www.dioceseofnashville.com/a-priesthood-growing.htm/
Religion and alive and well!

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the day an Atheist can speak to me about their beliefs without name calling, ridiculing, or bashing religion, i'll listen.

So far, i've never met a single one who doesn't immediately jump to nastiness.




have a nice day!

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At least most other religions are based on beliefs from thousands of years ago when people didn't understand much. Pastafarianism and Jedi and all that crap are based on jokes or movies. But really, what does it matter to me what people say they worship?

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Oh, and for the record, I have no problem with anyone believing anything they want. Just don't foist your beliefs on me, and don't force your morality based on a deity on me. I'm pretty proud of the morality I already have that is based on one simple principle, treat others like I want to be treated. I'm not driven to that by fear of god, just common sense.
And while I'm 99% sure there is no god, I'm human, therefore I realize I don't know everything, and therefore anything is possible. That however means that Jupiter and Zeus are just as possible as Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Hindu, or Buddha; unlikely, but possible. I also ask you to not presume to know how or what atheists like myself think.
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I don?t presume to know what anyone literally thinks, but because atheism only rejects the existence of established belief systems and what are typically anthropomorphic deities, it doesn?t compel an individual to form or challenge their own views of the apparently unknowable. Whether that?s important to you is your business, but simply rejecting the existence what you call the ?all powerful old man up in the sky who controls everything,? is only slightly more enlightened than not believing in Santa. That?s why it?s a terribly ironic, unproductive debate.

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See, this is an ad I'm alright with. The same guys that made this one have run lots that are nice.

But stuff like "You KNOW it's a myth" is just insulting.

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I am sorry to burst your bubble but atheists can be just as nasty as the religious.

"The Khmer Rouge also classified people by religion and ethnic group. They banned all religion and dispersed minority groups, forbidding them to speak their languages or to practice their customs. They especially targeted Buddhist monks, Muslims, Christians, Western-educated intellectuals, educated people in general, people who had contact with Western countries or with Vietnam, disabled people, and the ethnic Chinese, Laotians and Vietnamese. Some were put in the S-21 camp for interrogation involving torture in cases where a confession was useful to the government. Many others were summarily executed. Confessions forced at S-21 were extracted from prisoners through such methods as raising prisoners by their arms tied behind and dislocating shoulders, removing toenails with pliers, suffocating a prisoner repeatedly and skinning a person while alive.[15]

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Atheists tend to overly simplify the nature of reality, life, and death by explaining it away with ration and science that isn?t remotely advanced or comprehensive enough, while religious zealots promote fantasies about the immortal quality of the conscious ego and the deliberate wishes of metaphysical entities. Both are reassuring to in their own ways, but dodge the most important issues.