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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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Three times in the last week or so I've been bombarded, yes I say bombarded with an aural assault of CRAP music on my ride home... Some idiot with a boom box walks into the car, turns up his boom box and starts rapping the virtues of Christ... Christian Rap... CRAP, not what I need to hear on my ride home. How can this be stopped?

Posted on: 2012/8/28 21:53
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Financial and legal information regarding an owner in a condominium is confidential. The condominium board can find itself in a lot of trouble if it arbitrarily or otherwise releases names of those in arrears. Many in our condo have asked for the names of those in in arrears and the board and management companies have stated over and over again that they just can't do it. They best they can do is deny certain amenities to residents and owners of the units. In our case, they are not allowed to use the pool or gym. However enforcement of those restrictions can be tough. And the security guards can only inform the tenants to deal with the landlords visa vis their inability to use the amenity.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 22:00
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I can't speak with any real authority, but I know that in our Condominium we have similar issues. Ours is a much larger association of around 400 units. Our board has discussed this at open meetings and I believe that they've said that they can after a certain level of legal proceedings, get to a point where they wind up collecting the rent from the tenants. You really need to have an attorney involved at this point.

Posted on: 2012/8/23 23:12
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i think you people are complaining far too much,Its public transportationand thats what you get,the public a bunch of selfish idiots that dont care about one another.


Riding public transit is one of the least selfish acts. People who drive on the publicly funded highways -- highways we all pay for whether or not we use them -- are far more selfish. Drivers are a higher risk of accidentally killing someone. They spend tax dollars on emergency response when their vehicles crash. Per mile traveled, they cost taxpayers more in new capital projects and maintenance. They use a high portion of global resources. So really it seems to me that the people riding transit are the ones who deserve the praise for their selflessness.


I agree with both statements here. Those of us who do ride mass transit are costing society the least to get from point A to point B, in almost all cases. On the other hand I hear a ton of whining going on, especially on sites like this. The name of this topic includes "PATHETIC" and if there's one thing I have to say about PATH, it is far from pathetic. It may not be perfect, but it is consistently well run most of the time. Most of the time when there are delays, they aren't really all that bad. When you consider the system was built over 100 years ago, and not designed with express tracks or alternate routing in mind, it's amazing how reliable it is.

Quite frankly, most of my problems with my daily PATH commute are some of the A**holes riding it. You know the ones who feel it's their right to block the doors. Or those who refuse to move further into the cars. Or those who hold the car doors. That being said, we have less of these issues then the New York Subway.

Again, the systems isn't perfect, but I can count the days on one hand over the last 17 years that I've been using it, that it has failed to get me to work in a reasonable time frame.

Posted on: 2012/7/27 19:39
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Search for another thread on this forum, it has already been extensively covered.

I can tell you several things. First the name "Thirty Acres" has nothing to do with the cuisine, it's a reference to an arena that was put up for a boxing match early last century in Jersey City. Second, the chef worked for the Momofuku chain of restaurants in New York City. Third, while the individual items we had were pretty good, I found the menu very limiting and we were hard pressed to find things we wanted to eat when we ate there. Based on many things I had read on this forum, I was eagerly anticipating our dinner there. I feel no compelling reason to return. JMHO.

Posted on: 2012/6/17 11:20
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Re: NJ Residents will have to pay sales tax on Amazon.com purchases
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These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.


It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

Simple... you want things from government, taxes are needed to pay for those things... I want police, fire protection, schools with good teachers, properly paved roads, and all the other things that we expect from government, and I'm willing to pay my fair share.


Problem is, you're not getting any of those things from the government. Are you blind?


We were, I'll grant you it wasn't perfect. But the moment a certain Grover Norquist, and a whole party decided to make cutting taxes their only mantra, things really started going downhill.


Taxing will only get you so far, friend.

You are going to run out of other people's money.


As Mr. Chester says, these aren't new taxes, they're just stronger way of collecting those that were already in place. But even more important, my recollection of the national economy is that the country was doing a whole lot better 14 years ago prior to the Bush era tax cuts'; that the nation's strongest economic growth occurred under even higher tax rates. And that even the republican god, Ronald Reagan raised taxes when they were needed. So yea... I do believe that having the wealthy pay their fair share will get us a whole lot further.

Posted on: 2012/6/7 23:41
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These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.


It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

Simple... you want things from government, taxes are needed to pay for those things... I want police, fire protection, schools with good teachers, properly paved roads, and all the other things that we expect from government, and I'm willing to pay my fair share.


Problem is, you're not getting any of those things from the government. Are you blind?


We were, I'll grant you it wasn't perfect. But the moment a certain Grover Norquist, and a whole party decided to make cutting taxes their only mantra, things really started going downhill.

Posted on: 2012/6/7 11:09
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These aren't "more" or "new" taxes. These are sales taxes that were owed to the state all along. I know no one pays them, but that is tax evasion.


It's still more taxes, though. How is that a good thing?

Simple... you want things from government, taxes are needed to pay for those things... I want police, fire protection, schools with good teachers, properly paved roads, and all the other things that we expect from government, and I'm willing to pay my fair share.

Posted on: 2012/6/7 2:12
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Life is not fair but people should strive for fairness. That is why we have a legal system here that presupposes innocence until proven guilty right?

And actually, the only thing stopping me from moving is myself and a few thousand dollars of moving money....

And Adonis - yes, f the 99%....Can you put that on a tshirt and tell me how many you can sell? So it's the addicted druggies fault because drugs are so prevalent? It's the illegals fault for wanting to come to a free country and work for 2 dollars an hour to feed a family? Don't blame the drug dealers or the employers at all....the same way we don't blame the govt for not setting a standard so every single state either pays no tax or pays tax on online purchases. That makes sense...


How about spending on anti-drug education, I mean real spending on anti-drug education? And penalizing employers who employ illegal immigrant labor, absolutely should be done.

But to ask each state to abide by a common tax rate is totally against The Constitution. So the only real enforcement a state has regarding taxing online purchases (and mail order prior to that) is if you have "presence" in our state, you need to apply sales tax to any purchases made by customers in our state. This has been around for decades, perhaps more than a century. States with sales taxes, for years, have tried to enforce "use taxes," the equivalent of sales taxes for mail order and online order, to very poor avail. People just don't seem to volunteer up that information that is not otherwise reported to the their states by companies from out of state. It is indeed a game, I bet, everyone has played over the years. So at this point Christie has found a way to lure in both jobs and one of the biggest potential sales tax revenue providers in one fell swoop. Bad for us big time Amazon buyers, good for him, the State of New Jersey, and its citizens.

I personally may find myself buying some items from other online retailers, assuming the total purchase price and satisfaction index make it seem like a better value. Or I may not.

Posted on: 2012/6/3 11:55
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It's unfair that some residents in some states pay sales tax on online transactions and others don't. Either we all pay or we all don't...


Nobody ever said "life was fair." Every state has its pros and every state has its cons. Only you are stopping yourself from finding the state that suits you.

Posted on: 2012/6/3 3:24
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Holy f$^k those reviews on yelp on the sweetbread... this is why NJ gets #OOPS#ing laughed at.


I'm sure there are a ton of people outside the south that have no idea what sweetbreads are.

Go into any town in the south and see how many people know what cavatelli is, or manicotti (especially when you pronounce it properly).


I never realized sweetbreads were southern... I've know about them since I was a kid. I will say they are Offal. But if prepared properly, are wonderful. Oh, and I'm a damn yankee, raised in the north, and I've spent very little time in the south.

Posted on: 2012/4/22 16:15
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Re: God belongs on the streets in Jersey City
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Asif, perhaps you are right. perhaps the accusation of "thin skinned" is right. Perhaps a combination of both. I just see and I am very scared of what's going on in this world today in the realm of politics. I'm scared of Presidents who go to war based on god's words to them. I'm also scared of the fact that one of our political parties, which used to stand for fiscal conservatism, something I believe in, has been taken over by the religious right, and wants to set back our social attitudes towards sex, sex education, birth control, and other women's rights back by decades. And I also don't like to be told what kind of person my being an atheist makes me.

Posted on: 2012/4/15 13:48
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I'm not a big fan of Hitchens, Dawkins or most other celebrity Atheists. Yes, I'm a fan of Carlin simply because he makes me laugh. But while I have my own opinion on the the reality of god, I really do understand why people need to believe. I understand that it helps them deal with issues on every level. If "god" helps you get through the day and it works for you, great. If god helps you be a better person, great. If god helps society, great.

I personally place my faith in humans, science, and technology. All do have their downsides, but to me, they're all real.

Yes, I guess I do feel the concept of god is a bit silly. On the other hand, people who care for me have told me they feel sad, pity or sorrow for me for my lack of belief. I'm okay with that tradeoff. I've got plenty of religious and spiritual friends who may joke with me about my atheism, but never condemn me for it. For those friends I'm grateful. Every human being is entitled to pull together their own experiences and form their own opinions.

All I've ever asked, as have most atheists that I'm aware of is simply don't force your religious traditions on us as individuals and on publicly owned institutions.

If by any chance I've personally offended someone, I apologize. However if you've told me I'm wrong for not believing or you've told me how you know I act and I've come back after you, well that's your problem.

I follow a group that espouses a "naturalistic worldview." In other words, a world without gods. They call themselves "The Brights." While I follow them, I can't promote them simply because I actually don't believe I'm brighter or smarter than someone who does believe in god, just of a differing opinion. I'm human, and quite frankly as a human, I know I can't know absolute truth, hence anything is possible. Some would argue that makes me an agnostic. Perhaps, but I really am sure that god doesn't exists, not undecided, which is the definition of "Agnostic."

Again, all of this is personal opinion, and till any of us can prove fact, that's all we are entitled to.

Posted on: 2012/4/15 13:28
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An atheist will never be elected to an higher political office. I mean President, Senate, or Governor. The masses do not trust anyone who doesn't pray to God for guidance. I personally would not want a surgeon operating on me without faith in God.


And I'm not sure I'd want someone operating on me who puts his faith in a myth, and not in the science that developed the knowledge and abilities to perform these procedures. I don't want a surgeon looking to a man who allegedly walked the earth 2000 years ago.

Posted on: 2012/4/14 19:23
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i certainly have never implied any need for anyone to be "extra tolerant to religious people that believe in god."

I only think that everyone should be allowed to have any beliefs they want - in god, the spaghetti monster, or superman.

But it seems that (other than Rorsch, who seems openminded), the Atheists on this board don't seem to believe that anyone who is religious has the right to have their own beliefs - and to not get ridiculed for them.


Actually Capn I believe you have every right to your beliefs. But here yet again you are presuming that almost all atheists feel you don't. You are entitled to believe in your god, just as I am entitled to not believe. All I've and many other atheist have asked for is simply that your religious beliefs not be made part of the government that belongs to all of us. So again I'll ask "Please don't presume to know what you really don't know."

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Yes, I went out of my way to be insulting because he picked on one of the things that I find insulting. His claim that marriage is specifically a religious concept. I'm tired of being told that marriage belongs to religion and its implication that I'm only in a civil union since religion isn't part of my life. So yes, I'm offended, and yes I'm continuously offended by people telling me I'm not a whole person because I don't believe in your god.

The reality is, Atheists are the least protected minority in this country. One of us, at least one of us who proclaims being an atheist, will never have the chance to to be President in my foreseeable lifetime. I'm proud to be part of a country that finally elected an African American, we've also had a Catholic President, and nominated a Jew and a woman for Vice-President. But I really doubt we'll ever see an Atheist on anyone's ticket, since the overwhelming litmus test for any political office is religion.

So yes, I find myself offended by religion all the time. I didn't start out as a militant atheist, but the moment a Latin teacher tried to force me to say the lord's prayer, the moment co-workers called me immoral for not believing in god, politicians taking away women's reproductive rights, politicians trying to force the ten commandments and other religious icons into city halls or other public spaces, the phrase "under god" in the pledge of allegiance, the statement "in god we trust," the forcing of mythology over science in our classrooms, and so many other issues have forced me into being a militant atheist.

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Hi MScottC!

Glad you're happily married! (isn't modern marraige a construct of religions? or do you have a civil union?)

And obviously, you're a smart guy, and I don't doubt that we'd have a great discussion.

Having said that, here are your words (not mine):
"Of course who ever claimed belief in a mythological "all powerful old man up in the sky who controls everything" was sensible? Oh wait, all you believers." Thanks for the insult.

"It also is a great method to control the masses." I'm not being controlled, thanks.

"Bullshit... Atheists have never once asked you not to believe in god. We've never stopped you from partaking in your religion. " Sure, you've never stopped me, but so far, you've continually insulted me, while i've done nothing of the sort to you.

and for: "Please don't pretend to understand what Atheists do and don't do..... And I'd tend to believe our minds are open to a whole lot more as we aren't slaves to the thoughts of the clerics ruling our lives and our thought processes." Wow - i haven't pretended anything about what Atheists do and don't do. Neither should you judge me... as for being a slave? No, not that either, once again, thanks for the insult.

"....treat others like I want to be treated. " So, you can posture as being better than others since you're an Atheist, but no one else can make a comment about Atheism? And you can insult anyone who doesn't agree with you? Hmmm... interesting beliefs!

Not here to get in a fight, I'm just pointing out where I think you're being a tad hypocritical.

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Marriage is a LEGAL CONTRACT which is not always religious. And quite frankly I'm sick and tired of you people of religion telling us it belongs exclusively to you. I am not in a civil union, I'm in a marriage made legal by the laws of (in my case since my wife was born there and she wanted to be married in her home town) Nevada. And since marriage is a legal contract it should belong to all people who want to make that commitment to each other. And that includes gays.

Now since you seem to want insults. I'm sick and tired of religious wingnuts calling me immoral and heathen. I know not all god believers are wingnuts, but quite a few of you are. And you seem to be one who takes the cake. I've done nothing to punish you or your people, I've just stated facts and opinions. I also don't want your mythology forced on those of us who don't believe in god, or those of us who believe in a different god or gods.

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People on this website sometimes have selective memories, millions died in communist atheist country called the Soviet Union. This former empire outlawed religion, killed more than 1,200 priests, stole church property and it estimated to have murdered 20 million people. It encouraged children to turn it their members if the children discovered their families saying or teaching prayers. Neither, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini were religious figures, two of them were known atheists but they slaughter millions. The death figures are staggering over 60 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties million people died. While the Catholic Church is facing scandal now as it did in the past, more young men are entering the seminary. http://www.dioceseofnashville.com/a-priesthood-growing.htm/
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I know people died in communist countries. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Communist countries aren't atheist because the leaders didn't believe in god, they were atheists because they didn't want their people looking to god or religion as things to distract them from being loyal to the dictators. Lack of god was never the cause of violence, it was just a means to an end. Nobody kills based on "My lack of god is better than your god."

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the day an Atheist can speak to me about their beliefs without name calling, ridiculing, or bashing religion, i'll listen.

So far, i've never met a single one who doesn't immediately jump to nastiness.




have a nice day!


Captain John, anytime you want to have a conversation, I will. I happen to be happily married to a very spiritual person, a woman who was raised both Jewish and Christian, runs online bible courses and assists at an online church. We are constantly debating the whole religious thing, and I can assure you if I were nasty, If I did all the things you accuse atheists of, she would have left me a long time ago.

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Yvonne,
No one with any sensibility ever said religion never did any good... There have been many wonderful things done by people of religion and spirituality. That however does not make god real. Nor does it eliminate all the horrible things done in the name of "my god" vs "your god."

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At least most other religions are based on beliefs from thousands of years ago when people didn't understand much. Pastafarianism and Jedi and all that crap are based on jokes or movies. But really, what does it matter to me what people say they worship?


CatDog, ever hear of the concept of "Parody"? While I can't speak of "Jedi" I can tell you that Pastafarianism is totally a parody, a joke meant to show the silliness of belief in deities. There is no one who seriously believes in the "Great Flying Spaghetti Monster."

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Oh, and for the record, I have no problem with anyone believing anything they want. Just don't foist your beliefs on me, and don't force your morality based on a deity on me. I'm pretty proud of the morality I already have that is based on one simple principle, treat others like I want to be treated. I'm not driven to that by fear of god, just common sense.
And while I'm 99% sure there is no god, I'm human, therefore I realize I don't know everything, and therefore anything is possible. That however means that Jupiter and Zeus are just as possible as Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Hindu, or Buddha; unlikely, but possible. I also ask you to not presume to know how or what atheists like myself think.
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I don?t presume to know what anyone literally thinks, but because atheism only rejects the existence of established belief systems and what are typically anthropomorphic deities, it doesn?t compel an individual to form or challenge their own views of the apparently unknowable. Whether that?s important to you is your business, but simply rejecting the existence what you call the ?all powerful old man up in the sky who controls everything,? is only slightly more enlightened than not believing in Santa. That?s why it?s a terribly ironic, unproductive debate.



Atheism doesn't reject the existence of established belief systems, it rejects the existence of deities. No atheist in his right mind will deny the existence of any of the religions out there, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hindu, etc all exist. The fact that they all exist, and they all claim to be right only adds to our claim that none of them are right. Do those religions work for you, sure, just the same as believing in Santa Claus works for children. It gives you hope, an explanation of things, and something to live or work for. It also is a great method to control the masses. If you don't behave, santa won't bring your presents, if you don't behave, you'll go to hell.

And again I ask you to not presume what I ponder, how I form my opinions and how I challenge the things I don't know.

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See, this is an ad I'm alright with. The same guys that made this one have run lots that are nice.

But stuff like "You KNOW it's a myth" is just insulting.


And "In God We Trust" on our money isn't insulting for those of us who don't believe?
And "One nation under god" isn't insulting for those of us who don't believe?
And the push to teach "Intelligent Design" in our schools isn't insulting for those of us who don't believe?
And being offered a bible to swear on in court isn't insulting for those of us who don't believe?
And EVERY politician having to prove their spirituality to have any shot at being elected isn't insulting for those of us who don't believe?

The list goes on and on.

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Oh, and for the record, I have no problem with anyone believing anything they want. Just don't foist your beliefs on me, and don't force your morality based on a deity on me. I'm pretty proud of the morality I already have that is based on one simple principle, treat others like I want to be treated. I'm not driven to that by fear of god, just common sense.
And while I'm 99% sure there is no god, I'm human, therefore I realize I don't know everything, and therefore anything is possible. That however means that Jupiter and Zeus are just as possible as Yahweh, Jesus, Allah, Hindu, or Buddha; unlikely, but possible. I also ask you to not presume to know how or what atheists like myself think.

And given the original subject, as long as public funds are not used, and coercion is avoided, any demonstration of beliefs is fine.

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I am sorry to burst your bubble but atheists can be just as nasty as the religious.

"The Khmer Rouge also classified people by religion and ethnic group. They banned all religion and dispersed minority groups, forbidding them to speak their languages or to practice their customs. They especially targeted Buddhist monks, Muslims, Christians, Western-educated intellectuals, educated people in general, people who had contact with Western countries or with Vietnam, disabled people, and the ethnic Chinese, Laotians and Vietnamese. Some were put in the S-21 camp for interrogation involving torture in cases where a confession was useful to the government. Many others were summarily executed. Confessions forced at S-21 were extracted from prisoners through such methods as raising prisoners by their arms tied behind and dislocating shoulders, removing toenails with pliers, suffocating a prisoner repeatedly and skinning a person while alive.[15]



The Khmer Rouge may have been atheists, but their carnage was not done in the name of disbelief in god. Rather like all other communist dictatorships, they put down belief in god so that god and the groups based on god beliefs could not be used to overthrow them. The downfall of communism in Poland for instance was was led by religious leaders along with unions. The point of the communist despots wasn't to get everyone to be atheists, rather it was to destroy anything their subjects could rally around.

On the other hand, Crusades and so many other wars in this world's history were the result of religious leaders trying to force people into following their religions.

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Please don't pretend to understand what Atheists do and don't do. The ONLY thing we don't do is believe in the mythology of a deity or deities. Beyond that we have no limits other than the same limits every other human being is subject to. And I'd tend to believe our minds are open to a whole lot more as we aren't slaves to the thoughts of the clerics ruling our lives and our thought processes.

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I never said "WILL understand," I said "MAY understand." I also didnt say "all," I said "much of." I also believe that there will be things we will never understand. But I accept that as well. I stand by my statement.

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Atheists tend to overly simplify the nature of reality, life, and death by explaining it away with ration and science that isn?t remotely advanced or comprehensive enough, while religious zealots promote fantasies about the immortal quality of the conscious ego and the deliberate wishes of metaphysical entities. Both are reassuring to in their own ways, but dodge the most important issues.



Really? Please don't accuse atheists of oversimplifying the nature of reality or life. Reality,including the biology of life, is very very complicated, and contains a whole host of things we don't understand. And we can accept the fact that we don't understand it all. We have faith that in time, much of what we don't understand may be explained, just as over the last few hundred years we've come to understand the solar system, electricity, how the body functions, how chemicals work, nuclear physics, etc. Science is the attempt to understand what we admit we don't know. Now I will admit to simplifying the nature of death. Simply the body or integral parts of the body cease functioning; now that is simple and clean. There is no heaven, there is no hell, there is no afterlife. Simple... In that you are right, Atheists simplify.

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This says it all on this topic.

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Hear, hear.

Atheists are the most intolerant, bigoted and disrespectful to other people's faith.

That is, of course, when they are not afraid of those other people.


Bullshit... Atheists have never once asked you not to believe in god. We've never stopped you from partaking in your religion. We've never asked you to contribute to our charities. We've never as a group organized to control your life or to convert you to our belief system. And nobody has ever killed in the name of Atheism." We've only asked for one thing, that you simply keep your religions out of a government that belongs to all of us.

I will however give you the fact that there is a good side to religion. It gives people hope, it gives people a reason to be good and in many cases people have used the call of god or the organization to achieve good in this world. But none of that goodness proves the core of religion, that a god actually exists.

"Oh, and if you are going to lay the line on that Hitler and Lenin and Stalin were atheists, that may or may not be true, but what is true, is the only reason they espoused atheism is to quash any religious leadership so the clerics couldn't rally the masses, not because they truly believed in Atheism.

Posted on: 2012/4/4 10:44
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Re: God belongs on the streets in Jersey City
Home away from home
Home away from home


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Tyler wrote:
I rather see the youth praying anytime. Most of JC high school students are smoking pot, or having unprotected sex.


It's the church that quashes teaching kids about protected sex. Kids are going to have sex... if the church has any sense of common sense about reality, it would encourage the teaching of and the use of contraception.

Of course who ever claimed belief in a mythological "all powerful old man up in the sky who controls everything" was sensible? Oh wait, all you believers.

Posted on: 2012/4/3 21:53
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