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I recently had a conference for work with someone who is an expert on building (profitable) hydroponic systems. His reaction to this JC project could best be described as:

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Did someone make a big donation to a certain campaign fund to get this project approved?

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Esther Wintner also wrote on facebook that the cost is $17.55 a pound without the cost of water and distribution. This is nothing but a Mayor Bloomberg's gig where the "nanny" state told people what to do. From what I heard, part time aides in City Hall were laid off. $17.55 makes high end gourmet stores look very cheap.

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According to this article that is $17 per pound. I don't know where you shop, but even organic veggies are not $17 per pound.


As a hobby, I setup a system on my roof a few years back, which ended, along with my free time, when my kid was born. It was nice to have fresh basil and vine ripened tomatoes available at any time, but I sure wasn't saving $$$.

These type systems (vertical gardening / hydroponics / aeroponics / etc.) for growing fruits & veggies can give you a really high quality product. The issue has to do with energy consumption (lights, pumps, cooling systems especially, heating systems, controls, CO2 generation ), which is what tends to economically kill commercial operations. To make it work, you need:

1. Access to low cost energy (NJ has very expensive electricity).
2. Economics of scale. It needs to be big.

There’s also high energy costs associated with hydroponics farming because of what’s needed to keep the temperature controlled and the lights on for long lengths of time.

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According to this article that is $17 per pound. I don't know where you shop, but even organic veggies are not $17 per pound.
https://reason.com/2020/06/09/jersey-c ... uhlqKLjoM76OS6rN1TP5eqWKs

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Excellent comment, JP

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I just found out that Fulop cut the part time staff for budget reasons but found money for this vertical garden.


So is it your position that municipal government exists to pad payrolls with unnecessary jobs?

Would explain some things, I suppose.....

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The city took away public lands from community people who grew vegetables and they are now giving a contract to a firm to grow vegetables for nearly one million.
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/06/jers ... omote-healthy-eating.html



Did you read the article. Do you have the capacity to understand it? It goes beyond the simpleton remark you made. however not surprising.


If you take one look at Yvonne, it's obvious she's in desperate need of the healthy eating resources the city is providing.

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The city took away public lands from community people who grew vegetables and they are now giving a contract to a firm to grow vegetables for nearly one million.
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/06/jers ... omote-healthy-eating.html



Did you read the article. Do you have the capacity to understand it? It goes beyond the simpleton remark you made. however not surprising.

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I just found out that Fulop cut the part time staff for budget reasons but found money for this vertical garden.


can't those fired employees collect unemployment?

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I just found out that Fulop cut the part time staff for budget reasons but found money for this vertical garden.

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The city took away public lands from community people who grew vegetables and they are now giving a contract to a firm to grow vegetables for nearly one million.
https://www.nj.com/hudson/2020/06/jers ... omote-healthy-eating.html

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