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Re: Bicycle Theft Victims Unite
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My bike was $80 from Walmart (have to say-the thing rode great) and the lock cost more than the bike itself...still stolen!

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I don't think you can clip a high-end hardened steel D-lock like the Kryptonite in Brewster's picture with bolt-cutters, not with 3' ones, perhaps with 6' cutters you could (6' bolt-cutters will snip most chains too!)

On You-Tube there are videos of cropping low-end Kryptonite locks, and even then, watch the struggle they usually have.

I think Brewster's photo has been cut with an angle-grinder or hacksaw, look how smooth the cut is, when something is cropped it will have the depression indents where the jaws bit, and be more uneven.

If someone can find evidence of a hardened D-lock being cropped I'll stand corrected, but I have not seen or heard anything first hand.

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And this guy isn't even big or strong-looking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csw5e2s0GeY

Regardless, a fancy bike is a target.
A cheap lock is a target.
Quick-release wheels or seats are targets.

Lock it or lose it. And even a spokesman for Kryptonite admitted that there are multiple brute-force methods that work relatively quickly. Read the article in the link above if you want the details-

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I don't think you can clip a high-end hardened steel D-lock like the Kryptonite in Brewster's picture with bolt-cutters, not with 3' ones, perhaps with 6' cutters you could (6' bolt-cutters will snip most chains too!)

On You-Tube there are videos of cropping low-end Kryptonite locks, and even then, watch the struggle they usually have.

I think Brewster's photo has been cut with an angle-grinder or hacksaw, look how smooth the cut is, when something is cropped it will have the depression indents where the jaws bit, and be more uneven.

If someone can find evidence of a hardened D-lock being cropped I'll stand corrected, but I have not seen or heard anything first hand.

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A pair of 3' long bolt cutters slice through those U-Locks like a pair of scissors cutting a sheet of cardboard. We're talking mere seconds and bye-bye bike. Hex chains made of hardened steel put up a fight, but not impossible. I carry the chain, despite it weighing a ton-


THIS. The U-Locks are useless for a thief that knows what they are doing. Heck, some people are still using the old U-Locks that could be pried open with a pen cap. :o

But, the chains with hexagonal links are definitely much harder to clip, which is why thieves will not bother and instead move on to the easier target of improperly locked bikes. I just came back from a quick visit to Grove Street Bikes and walked past the various bike racks in the plaza, and so many of those bikes are locked with simple cable locks... I am surprised those haven't been swiped by now.

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A pair of 3' long bolt cutters slice through those U-Locks like a pair of scissors cutting a sheet of cardboard. We're talking mere seconds and bye-bye bike. Hex chains made of hardened steel put up a fight, but not impossible. I carry the chain, despite it weighing a ton-

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I spent the extra on the Kryptonite NY Lock. I believe it came with an theft insurance plan. Also go the seat/wheel locks.

I am shocked someone was able to cut through the lock in the photo. Even making that cut, still have to be pretty strong to slip it off the frame etc.

I have not had an issue, but you never get the thought out of your head about your bike disappearing.

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Kryptonite NY lock is not peace of mind. The below lock was left at Grove St. My solution is a cheap ugly bike from Costco. Someone tried to take the rear wheel some years ago, but I still have the bike after 18 years of often leaving it at Grove. I don't understand people who feel they need to ride a $1000+ bike around the city. I've seen them locked at Grove.

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But, that's my point Brewster: the u-locks are generally useless. The Kryptonite New York series chains are completely different and much harder to cut. Any thief will go for any other of the many bikes available for stealing rather than mess around with those chunky, hexagonal links.

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Kryptonite NY lock is not peace of mind. The below lock was left at Grove St. My solution is a cheap ugly bike from Costco. Someone tried to take the rear wheel some years ago, but I still have the bike after 18 years of often leaving it at Grove. I don't understand people who feel they need to ride a $1000+ bike around the city. I've seen them locked at Grove.

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I had a kyrptonite chain lock and my bike still got stolen!


You need not be theft-proof, you just need to not be the easiest one to steal.


Nor, as iGreg pointed out, the nicest/shiniest/most-expensive bike on the block.

I've used those NY chains for many years on both bikes and mopeds and never had an issue. I just shake my head at all the "decent" bikes at Grove St PATH with el-cheapo sub-$20 locks that are basically worthless...

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I had a kyrptonite chain lock and my bike still got stolen!


What specific type and model? I have left my bike unattended (for days at a time, in some instances) all over NYC and JC and never had any issues when using a New York chain. Ultimately, there are no guarantees, but if you make your bike harder to steal than others in the area, you are ahead of the game. It's like the joke about evading zombies: you don't need to be the fastest, you just don't want to be the slowest one. You need not be theft-proof, you just need to not be the easiest one to steal.

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Lesson definitely learned...

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Here is the skinny, you want a commuter bike to actually lock up?
Better get a real low end beater w/ shitty components that will garner no more than a $10 or $20 resale.

Anything nice will get stolen and CitiBike comes in handy at that point - even though CitiBikes suck ballz when needed and you find the stations are either empty or full.







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I had a kyrptonite chain lock and my bike still got stolen! The bike thieves are terrible and there is absolutely zero repercussion. You basically just have to take getting your bike stolen on the chin. I hate it- every time I lock up my bike I mentally prepare myself for it not being there when I get back.

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I had a kyrptonite chain lock and my bike still got stolen! The bike thieves are terrible and there is absolutely zero repercussion. You basically just have to take getting your bike stolen on the chin. I hate it- every time I lock up my bike I mentally prepare myself for it not being there when I get back.

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Not to pile on, but properly locking your bike will (almost) ensure that it is not stolen. It's a sucky lesson to learn the hard way, but hopefully you will now take steps to prevent any future reoccurrence.

When locking a bike for a period of time out on a street in NYC or JC, you should use one of those Kryptonite New York series chains (not a U-lock!) to secure the frame to a fixed object (a post, or solid bike rack) and ensure both wheels are also secured by the chain, or use a u-lock to the secure the wheels to the frame. Leaving the bike in a high traffic area does not afford you any extra security. If anything, it makes it more susceptible, as people are just passing through not paying much attention to anything. You can get a Kryptonite chain at Grove Street Bikes, or via Amazon.

Stealing bikes in plain sight in NYC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGttmR2DTY8

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I couldn't find any similar topics regarding bicycle theft (aside from the 'rampant bike thievery in JSQ' thread), so apologies in advance.
I'm not sure what will come of this but right now I just want to rant.
Yesterday my bike was stolen from outside COSI in the Newport area. I was surprised because it's a pretty high traffic area, and yet still it was stolen.
I'm kind of coming to terms with it since it wasn't expensive, but aside from checking craigslist is there anything else I can do?



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I couldn't find any similar topics regarding bicycle theft (aside from the 'rampant bike thievery in JSQ' thread), so apologies in advance.
I'm not sure what will come of this but right now I just want to rant.
Yesterday my bike was stolen from outside COSI in the Newport area. I was surprised because it's a pretty high traffic area, and yet still it was stolen.
I'm kind of coming to terms with it since it wasn't expensive, but aside from checking craigslist is there anything else I can do?



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