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The WP is a great concept - as long as you know that it's also a great tool for telling lies.


You've got to flush it out!

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Since I own one web site development company (active since before 99% of all existing web sites)


stevenfulop.com powered by justjoe seems like a reasonable request to me.

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people from CIA, or Microsoft, or IBM were modifying WP in ways benefiting their employer.
Only yesterday I became aware of a controversy raging around covert editing of the Wikipedia entries about the events and deceptions that preceded the Iraq War.

Surprise, Surprise! The Orwellian changes have been traced to a computer assigned to an intern in the office of a hawkish Senator.

The WP is a great concept - as long as you know that it's also a great tool for telling lies.

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re the request for "a list of web hosting sites" in Jersey City, it is pretty common for web site developers to sell hosting either on shared servers or to own or lease one or more dedicated hosting servers.

Since I own one web site development company (active since before 99% of all existing web sites) and two web site hosting companies (with clients in 7 countries) I think that posting their names here would be blatant advertising.

I have no doubt of Steve's sincerity in wanting to promote local businesses but the current arrangement is a fairly high profile example of buying outside the community. I mean, the current supplier even promotes himself in these forums. Oversights happen and are not always based on bad intentions. Now that the issue has been brought up, I hope Steve will do some local shopping for a replacement of his current out-of-town resource.

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Damn right we'll get to the bottom of Steven Fulop register variations. Pool your resources, people.

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re "nothing is untraceable"

All web registrars offer some form of registration "cloaking." For the price of a few beers the identity of any registrant of any domain name is concealed. Only law enforcement (and maybe some other official entities) may know that identity.

That situation is commonly used to embarrass political opponents or to cause problems for a web site. A common way of preventing that is to register variations such as dotNet.

That's what I am referring to.

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Interesting bit on wiki; a friend's job for a marketing firm was to add links to product pages from relevant wiki articles. Eventually, all the these public internet access points were having their IP addresses banned; public library, an internet cafe, ect., because he was using their net access to add the product links to wiki.

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It is not as easy as it appears. I had my struggles on WP and can tell it is absolutely easy to win when you can build a rather small network. I have been on both sides and I can tell you : three people will kick your arguments and ideas out of WP ASAP - it will appear that the "community consensus" is against a stubborn jerk.
WP is a manipulation tool, as that article showed recently. I can't find it right now, but people from CIA, or Microsoft, or IBM were modifying WP in ways benefiting their employer... much like our councilman does with his online campaigns.

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If you don't like it or think it is misrepresenting then change it yourself, that is the point of Wikipedia.

justjoe, Can you send me a list of of web hosting sites in Jersey City, I couldn't find any, kthx.

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I'm curious.

With all the web designers available here in Jersey City, why would a councilman interested in supporting local businesses hire a web developer in New York and use a hosting service even further afield?

And, to be candid about it, he didn't get very good advice for whatever he spent. His inexperienced webmaster allowed the classic error of not covering his client's ownership of alternative domain names.

Hence, a domain vampire has registered "stevefulop.com" and probably is waiting to sell it to opposition when the next election goes all "jersey city" and the dirty tricks start flying. Unless he buys it up first, I'll bet you will see an interesting and totally untraceable web site under that alternative name.


nothing is untraceable

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The Wikipedia sounds like a pathetic political shill-job, with poor spelling at that.

What were your expectations? The time of writing has passed, his assistants are better at making movies. Sort of pathetic to have the assistants or some other contractor writing you a wikipedia page, when everything is happening on myspace.

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I'm curious.

With all the web designers available here in Jersey City, why would a councilman interested in supporting local businesses hire a web developer in New York and use a hosting service even further afield?

And, to be candid about it, he didn't get very good advice for whatever he spent. His inexperienced webmaster allowed the classic error of not covering his client's ownership of alternative domain names.

Hence, a domain vampire has registered "stevefulop.com" and probably is waiting to sell it to opposition when the next election goes all "jersey city" and the dirty tricks start flying. Unless he buys it up first, I'll bet you will see an interesting and totally untraceable web site under that alternative name.

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The Wikipedia sounds like a pathetic political shill-job, with poor spelling at that.


You must be a factinista.

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The Wikipedia sounds like a pathetic political shill-job, with poor spelling at that.

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Wikipedia will probably leave that one up.

Anyway, I read the article and liked what I saw. He seems like the kind of politician we need. (Unlike that crazy man in the White House.)

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It is great -- but you should know that anyone or anything (for that matter) can have a wikipedia entry.

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Just discovered it by doing a Google search on another topic. Way cool, congrats Steven!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Fulop


From wikipedia:

I hold the copyright to the information contained on www.stevenfulop.com/about.htm. I am the principal of Keymaster Productions and I am the one who actually wrote the copyrighted copy on the stevenfulop.com web site. Therefore, it is within my rights to reuse this copy to write an article about Mr. Fulop. --kmjeff

I have editted this page to try and clean it up. I am now removing the 2 tags - clean up and this reads like an advertisement from the page. If I was not supposed to do so, my apologies. --kmjeff 14:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I have once again editted this page to clean it up and remove all vestiges of copy that can be considered biased. This is a neutral article. --kmjeff 20:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

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In honor of crapkins http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Suri_Cruise_Poop.jpg Quote:
Hefe wrote: Not entirely true. If you create an article for something not deemed Wiki-worthy (i.e. - not culturally significant enough), fellow Wikipedians will call it into question and remove it. From what I understand, this happens quite often and with surprising efficiency. See Wikipedia: Your first article for more elaboration on this.

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It is great -- but you should know that anyone or anything (for that matter) can have a wikipedia entry.
Not entirely true. If you create an article for something not deemed Wiki-worthy (i.e. - not culturally significant enough), fellow Wikipedians will call it into question and remove it. From what I understand, this happens quite often and with surprising efficiency. See Wikipedia: Your first article for more elaboration on this.

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It is great -- but you should know that anyone or anything (for that matter) can have a wikipedia entry.

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Just discovered it by doing a Google search on another topic. Way cool, congrats Steven!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Fulop

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Just discovered it by doing a Google search on another topic. Way cool, congrats Steven!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Fulop

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