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@Griffin: where did you take the plumbing classes? Is that one class, or multiple?

Sounds like a good idea - like you said, I may not do the job myself after the classes, but it's a good idea at least to know what's going on...


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I took it at Hudson Technical:
http://www.hcstonline.org/portal/Info ... the-Plumbing-Academy.aspx

The course is $600 bucks but I don't know if I would take it again. I didn't learn as much as I had hoped and they concentrate a lot on manual labor that I would probably never mess with (like cutting cast iron pipes for 2-3 classes).

It was an entire semester (3hr classes twice a week) - so you still learn here and there, but it BARELY made the $600 worth it. I've learned a lot more by youtubing to be honest (after the class so I knew what to really google for...). A lot of the classmates already knew the material and just wanted the hours for their certification and licensing purposes. There is Plumbing I and II, the teacher in Plumbing I is the same as II, so he holds back a lot of information in hopes of people signing up for II (which is another 600 bucks or something).

But after all that, I definitely know a lot more now than before and have the capability of rolling my eyes at some quotes that comes in.

Then again, while this class is barely recommended, if I had taken this class 2 years ago for 600 bucks - it would have definitely saved me at least 3000 of ripped off dollars. Just depends on how much you know already.

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In my experience most people don't realize that plumbing is a very difficult trade that requires years of experience and a NJ Master plumber's license that needs to be bonded every few years.. Watching a you tube video will not help anyone come close to what a license plumber knows.
Plumbing is labor intensive and requires great skill to diagnose a problem. Too expensive is a common phrase without knowledge to back what exactly is the right price.

A high quality plumber is not cheap. Just as when you go to a doctor you do not question his expertise and the cost to see him. Just like a pair of Prada shoes are not Payless shoes.

Plumbing is a life safety industry. My old man is a master plumber and I have great respect for the trade. He is right up there with Doctors, lawyers, basketball players, stock brokers, Now those people are overpaid plenty!


What a grand oversimplification. Yes, there's knowledge that master plumbers and electricians posses that is quite arcane, but the fact is most of that pertains to system design, and much of what gets them called to a home for repair is not rocket science.

Not only that, but the plumber scene in Moonstruck is very close to the mark for in many cases. A Master Plumber in clean clothes and loafers comes and prices the job, and then sends his assistants Moe, Larry and Curly to actually do it. They may know something about plumbing, or not. I had a boiler done a few years ago, and watched the assistant bleed the air out of the bladder on the expansion tank, which is factory preset with the right pressure. When I questioned why, he insisted he "needed to get the air out so the water could get in". He was 100% wrong, as was much of the work he did, particularly on the vent which had to be completely redone.

There's nothing about repairing or replacing anything in a sink or toilet that's beyond the average homeowner. And if it's an older toilet, better to replace it. It's easily done and a terrific performing low flow Cadet 3 is ~$140 at HD. Shower/baths are trickier, but if it's just cartridges or washers it's easy.

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@Griffin: where did you take the plumbing classes? Is that one class, or multiple?

Sounds like a good idea - like you said, I may not do the job myself after the classes, but it's a good idea at least to know what's going on...

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In my experience most people don't realize that plumbing is a very difficult trade that requires years of experience and a NJ Master plumber's license that needs to be bonded every few years.. Watching a you tube video will not help anyone come close to what a license plumber knows.
Plumbing is labor intensive and requires great skill to diagnose a problem. Too expensive is a common phrase without knowledge to back what exactly is the right price.

A high quality plumber is not cheap. Just as when you go to a doctor you do not question his expertise and the cost to see him. Just like a pair of Prada shoes are not Payless shoes.

Plumbing is a life safety industry. My old man is a master plumber and I have great respect for the trade. He is right up there with Doctors, lawyers, basketball players, stock brokers, Now those people are overpaid plenty!


I'm still not saying that people should do it themselves. All I'm saying is that studying up on it will get you not as ripped off. At least if they have an idea of what's broken and what's not, they won't be oversold anything. In fact, in my plumbing class - there were at least 1 or 2 classes on "how to overcharge customers" - while not named that, all that the instructor did was to talk about how to make a job look more difficult than it is and how to take longer to fix. I'm not saying all plumbers are like that, and I'm sure it takes skill to fix things. ie. Replacing a P-trap really shouldn't cost more than 50 bucks, and most plumbers will charge a LOT more for it.

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In my experience most people don't realize that plumbing is a very difficult trade that requires years of experience and a NJ Master plumber's license that needs to be bonded every few years.. Watching a you tube video will not help anyone come close to what a license plumber knows.
Plumbing is labor intensive and requires great skill to diagnose a problem. Too expensive is a common phrase without knowledge to back what exactly is the right price.

A high quality plumber is not cheap. Just as when you go to a doctor you do not question his expertise and the cost to see him. Just like a pair of Prada shoes are not Payless shoes.

Plumbing is a life safety industry. My old man is a master plumber and I have great respect for the trade. He is right up there with Doctors, lawyers, basketball players, stock brokers, Now those people are overpaid plenty!

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I've used both Hutch and Kook&Son.

So here is my review for both.
Kook & Sons - big job, replace lead main, whole house filter, etc, fix leak in bathroom. They did a great job replacing the lead main - big project jobs. But I found them to be extremely overpriced in hindsight. But it was truly headache free, they dealt with the city, permits, showed up on the right date, and I didn't have to lift a finger. (But even considering that, they were way overpriced). But good workmanship I have to stress. HOWEVER, the bathroom leak (a small leak due to the drain caulking being bad) took FOREVER and several tries and denials and overselling for them to get it right. They initially said it was the drain pipe, and charged me for it, it still leaked, came back to "fix" about 5 times - until I had to climb up to the ceiling myself to photograph the exact leak. (The leak was so bad that it would intermittently "rain" on my 1st floor ceiling). They said they checked the drain caulking and filled it up to the top when they didn't. and after all the headache, someone from his team finally saw that it was in fact the caulking that was causing the issues. The pipe would need replacing anyway - but my god, I was stunned that no one seemed to be able to fix a leak after 5 visits but could do a large project so well and seamlessly at that. To their credit, they came back each time, until the it was fixed for sure. (But they still charged for the wrong diagnosis and replacing the entire waste pipe system). But if you use them, be aware of the price & overselling. You should study up and know a rough idea of the problem before you call. It would save you thousands.

Hutch - nice guy, quick response, trustworthy, shows up on time, professional. A little bit of oversell/salesman. He came for a drain replacement in the kitchen (apparently all my drains are crapping out), and somehow talked me into much much more. He does the job and even is reasonable in the price (a little bit high still). But boy, is he smoooooth.

Anyway, I know it's easy to hire folks, but from these experiences, I started watching YouTube videos and took a plumbing class on the side. (So that even if I couldn't do the job myself, I'd know what needed to be done and how - and at least be able to have an idea if they try to rip me off). Now looking back on how much I paid previously, I kick myself - but a lesson well learned.


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I highly recommend Byron " hutch" too, he is very knowledgeable, dependable, honest and a very kind person.

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Thanks to all who gave me roofer recommendations. We are now having to look at the plumbing of the building. The water issues just seem to be getting larger and worse.

Any recommendations for a good plumber would be appreciated.

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Thank you neighbor.

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Sure! Charles Mello. Older gentleman, works by himself, very reasonable by plumber's standards. He does a lot of work for many people I know around the VVP area.

Quick link:
http://www.manta.com/c/mmg57mc/charles-mello-plumbing-heating

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Can anyone recommend a low-overhead reasonably priced plumber to hookup a new sink, dishwasher and icemaker? I had good luck with an electrician recommended on this site.

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I was moving in on a Monday. The Saturday before I found out my water heater didn't work. The guy who was doing my floors gave me Bryon's number. Not only did he come out on Sunday to try assess the situation and try to fix it "the easy way" he was back on Monday to replace it with a better quality heater than is otherwise in use in the building. He came back Tuesday to check on the water pressure.

He speaks to you in plain terms so that you can understand what is being done and what your options are. And he REALLY means it when he says 7 days a week. Great guy, highly recommended.

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sounds like the flapper, and you may need a new handle mechanism...they loosen up/bend over time. mine took about 15 minutes to fix. my dad recently re-did his with buttons instead of handles and it completely stopped the running problems.

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Easy fix...change the flapper and clean the part it seats on.
If or when u do that and its all fixed, u owe me a 6 pack :)

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Our toilet appears to be leaking water (from the tank into the bowl, continuously). Can anyone recommend a reliable plumber for repairs?

Also, what is the fair market price for such a repair?

TIA.

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We just used Byron Hutchinson also and I was very happy with the work he did. He came the same day and fixed the problem in a little over an hour (had to remove the toilet to get a toy out). His price was very reasonable, cleaned up after he was done and explained all the work and charges before actually doing the work. He was friendly and personable - would use him again and recommend to others.

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Hi Folks,
We're looking for a few more quotes of plumbing work being done in our basement - a new sewer line needs to be run (involves removing some concrete), and a new poop trap needs to be put in....
Any recommendations of honest and good plumbers


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I've used them to replace the wax ring and flange underneath where the bowl sits, a hot water tank, and a tub snake. No regrets and priced accordingly.

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Hi Folks,

We're looking for a few more quotes of plumbing work being done in our basement - a new sewer line needs to be run (involves removing some concrete), and a new poop trap needs to be put in....

Any recommendations of honest and good plumbers?

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I have to give a recommendation (2nding Greenville Chick's rec) for Byron Hutchinson.

We had a frozen pipe this week and he came out the same day. He was professional, honest, inexpensive and just an overall nice guy.

I highly recommend calling him!
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You are a decent person to call him back. I honestly wouldn't have. We live in capitalist country. ClearFlow was available and gave you a good solution/price. ClearFlow is a good plumber - redid my plumbing in my bathroom.

Please blacklist me!

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Sorry to hear about that. Based on your story it looks as if this plumber is confusing "deadbeats" with "consumers getting competitive pricing". You might call the association to clarify the definition and get the plumber on notice if untrue.

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Carmine Aumenta threatened to put me on the local plumber’s association’s “blacklist” for deadbeat residents/(i.e. customers).

Here’s the story. Our heating system was not working properly so I called a plumber to come and give an estimate on fixing the problem. The estimate was more than I was expecting, and so I called other plumbers for alternate estimates. I first called Aumenta Plumbing and Heating, and he said that someone would be available to come by and look at the problem that same day but he couldn’t give me a specific time when. I then asked him to call me before the plumber was to arrive, to which he agreed.

Not knowing when Aumenta’s plumber would arrive, and also seeking a third estimate, I called Clearflow plumbers, who also said that someone would also be able to come by during the day and they would call before they arrived. Ultimately, Clearflow’s plumbers arrived within an hour and proposed a simpler solution after seeing the problem, and I agreed to have the work done on the spot. They completed the work within 30 minutes of arriving, and I was happy.

One hour later, my door buzzes and it is Aumenta’s plumber. I told him that I had asked for a call before they were coming, and if they had called I would have told them not to come. I thanked them for coming, and told him that the work was already completed by someone else and so I didn’t need their services. The plumbers left without any comment.

About an hour later, Carmine Aumenta (the owner of the business) calls our home. I am out of the house now so my wife picks up and Carmine is upset and tells her that _we_ should have called _him_ when the work was done by the other plumber. He said that he would be sending a bill for having his plumbers come to our house. My wife replied that we asked for them to call us before the plumber was sent, which they did not do. Carmine asked for me to call him when I returned. When I called him back, I again explained that we asked for and expected a call before the plumber was sent. He didn’t respond to this, but instead re-iterated that we should have called him. He said that I should have told him that we asked other plumbers to see our problem, and if he knew that we were calling multiple plumbers for estimates then he would have never sent his guys. He then said that he would be putting me on the local plumber association’s “blacklist” for deadbeats.

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I was wondering if anyone had used or knew of any good reasonably priced plumbers for some odds jobs around the house - like replacing a broken sink, repairing a shower, etc.

Thanks

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For what it's worth...
We used Kook before and they did a good job.

Tried to use them again on Saturday for a leaky toilet and they told us early Saturday morning that they would send someone out that day. 5 hours later they called to say they could not come. They did try to re-schedule for this morning but it could not wait.

Ended up calling Clear Flow and they had someone over in an hour and did a good job.

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I've used them recently. I had a leak from a bathroom to the floor below. They were great because they gave me two options to resolve the issue and actually recommended the much cheaper ($100) rather than that would have been $600.

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I've used Kook a few times recently: to disconnect an old sump pump, to fix a toilet that didn't flush properly, and to clean out a drain. I'd second the recommendation. Kook was easy to get in touch with, and the plumber showed up on time and did good work.

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We've used Kook and Sons for over 5 years - responsive and reliable, they stand by their work.

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I need a plumber recommendation for the Hamilton park area. I've got a leaky shower that needs some attention quick! Someone who really knows there stuff.

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We've used Rolando @ Clearflow several times. He's responsive, reasonable and trustworthy. We had tried Kook but found them incredibly expensive.

http://www.clearflowllc.com/services.html

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Tell them Sara referred you

917-559-0083 his prices and work are great!

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