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I read the ordinance. The AirBNB spokeswoman is correct about it pretty much killing the business outside of owner-occupied 1 to 3 family buildings.

Non-owner occupied properties are essentially banned (over 3 units) or severely limited (28 days max a year). With the limits and the registration fees, AirBnB becomes non economical to do, which is I think the point of the regulations.



As the next-door neighbor of an entire apartment building that's being run as an AirBNB hotel, I applaud this restriction. The developer pitched this new construction to the neighborhood and zoning board as rental apartments, and then promptly furnished them and listed them all on AirBNB and comparable overseas short-term rental sites. He lives in the Hamptons, and his neighbors get to deal with the noise and confusion of a stream of transient visitors. (Confusion because, weekly, one of them sets off the fire alarm, and our street is filled with ladder trucks. Maybe label your system more clearly, absentee concierge?)
isn't there a limit of 5 units? why doesn't the city enforce the 5 unit limit first

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I read the ordinance. The AirBNB spokeswoman is correct about it pretty much killing the business outside of owner-occupied 1 to 3 family buildings.

Non-owner occupied properties are essentially banned (over 3 units) or severely limited (28 days max a year). With the limits and the registration fees, AirBnB becomes non economical to do, which is I think the point of the regulations.



As the next-door neighbor of an entire apartment building that's being run as an AirBNB hotel, I applaud this restriction. The developer pitched this new construction to the neighborhood and zoning board as rental apartments, and then promptly furnished them and listed them all on AirBNB and comparable overseas short-term rental sites. He lives in the Hamptons, and his neighbors get to deal with the noise and confusion of a stream of transient visitors. (Confusion because, weekly, one of them sets off the fire alarm, and our street is filled with ladder trucks. Maybe label your system more clearly, absentee concierge?)

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Not surprising, but the Airbnb spokesperson in this video is very misleading and alarmist. I recommend reading for yourself (starting at about page 175 [or search for "short-term"):Short-term Rental Ordinance


I read the ordinance. The AirBNB spokeswoman is correct about it pretty much killing the business outside of owner-occupied 1 to 3 family buildings.

Non-owner occupied properties are essentially banned (over 3 units) or severely limited (28 days max a year). With the limits and the registration fees, AirBnB becomes non economical to do, which is I think the point of the regulations.

The meeting with Yun and Boggiano was interesting as both mentioned they weren't given much in the way notice or time to review the proposed ordinance. Being a cynical person, I wonder if the reason for this proposed ordinance is not "protecting affordable housing" but instead due to lobbying and $$$ donations from a group with financial interests in hotels.

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I'd love to know the real story behind Nick's rabid hatred of Neighbourhood Associations.

Owner of a a small business that was stifled? Former Vice President who lost out in a bitter power struggle over the park flowerbeds?

Robin.

We should organize a meet-up, I think alot of people would like this information. Somebody has clearly hurt him (sarcasm intended in case it's not apparent.)

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I'd love to know the real story behind Nick's rabid hatred of Neighbourhood Associations.

Owner of a a small business that was stifled? Former Vice President who lost out in a bitter power struggle over the park flowerbeds?

Robin.

We should organize a meet-up, I think alot of people would like this information. Somebody has clearly hurt him (sarcasm intended in case it's not apparent.)

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Coffee all over screen. Thanks for the morning laugh, Robin.

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I'd love to know the real story behind Nick's rabid hatred of Neighbourhood Associations.

Owner of a a small business that was stifled? Former Vice President who lost out in a bitter power struggle over the park flowerbeds?

Robin.

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To the surprise of nobody, the NA's aren't lifting a finger to inform homeowners in their areas about this, nor are they putting out any statements about it. If someone were attempting to build 1 more apartment or 1 less parking spot than the prescribed zoning, there'd be instant lawsuits, but they seem to be totally cool with their homeowners getting fucked over. I wonder what the mayor promised their board members to secure their silence.

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There's a house on my street that is a continuous Airbnb. We see people with rolling bags every day. The best part is watching people trying to parallel park tiny cars in huge spaces...and they keep blowing it. I've ALMOST offered to park for them.

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Not surprising, but the Airbnb spokesperson in this video is very misleading and alarmist. I recommend reading for yourself (starting at about page 175 [or search for "short-term"):Short-term Rental Ordinance

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A Town Hall meeting on Airbnb hosted by Councilman Yun and Councilman Boggiano.
https://youtu.be/pvHzpgG9bOk

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I am not sure where I stand on the issue but in the past year I have seen many European tourists families in places that you would previously not have expected like throughout the heights and around JSQ.

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Is that organization for property owners still around today? What was the name? The ordinance is so one-sided, it is unbelievable.

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I remember the 1985 ordinance and I went to the Hudson County Tax Board and heard a commissioner tell the city and Duda that JC cannot pass a tax increase on to tenants. The landlord receives the increase and his only solution is the tax court. I also still remember then Councilman O'Dea said, he had problems with this ordinance but he voted for it anyway. JC then had a larger rent controlled population than today. Many of those buildings owned by small homeowners became condos after the change in the rent-control ordinance. I also remember the 'public fights' between Bob Sacks of St. Johns apt and this tenant who became Councilman Buddy Brooks, ironically, Brooks died shorty after that ordinance and the city council renamed part of a street in St. Johns after him. Bob Sacks eventually started an organization for property owners and went after Mayor Bret Schundler's spending in JC. Actually, the rent control ordinance should be renamed 'I will get even Bob Sacks ordinance.'

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485 Marin is a large airbnb and is advertised as Lotus Newport on Expedia and Lotus at Marin Apartments on hotel planner website. If I lived at 485 Marin and found out it was being used as 'hotel' I would not be very happy. Kushner !!!!!!

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You are both right. They go by income and by comps. Most owners I know don’t fill out those forms providing their income information and copies of their taxes so they get stuck with assessments based on comps. If you want to increase the rents (because of the high taxes) you have to go through the rent control office and file a hardship increase. If you hire an attorney to help you through this process it would cost about 10k.

1985 is a long time. I wish they updated the ordinance and were reasonable (for both landlord and tenant). It has been a $35 charge for a late fee since 1985.

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The rent control ordinance was redone in 1985. The late Councilman Buddy Brooks lived in St. Johns apts. He always had a beef with Bob Sacks, the guy who ran the place. When Brooks won his Ward C seat, he had the ordinance changed protecting tenants. Landlords cannot pass on a tax increase to tenants. When taxes go up, they, the owners, go to tax court to win an appeal and we the public float bonds to repay them. I was a tax court with a friend recently because she did not understand the process. Before she was called, I watched the tax board reduced an assessments on a rent control building by one million, the commissioner said, other Hudson County towns allow tax pass alongs but not JC so the owner is entitled to a reduction. I have no problem with rent control but if you vote and want services especially school services, then you should pay the taxes. It is the reason why small landlords decided to sell their buildings and they are now condos. By the way, new construction is exempt from JC rent control laws.


Oh Yvonne, I've explained commercial appraisals to you many times in the past, yet you obstinately refuse to understand. A commercial property, which refers to any building of more than 4 units or having a commercial space, is appraised not by comps but by income. If you limit the income by rent control, you limit the value of the property, and thus the assessment and tax. No wonder those buildings are condo bait!!! It's the only way to get market value for the property.

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The rent control ordinance was redone in 1985. The late Councilman Buddy Brooks lived in St. Johns apts. He always had a beef with Bob Sacks, the guy who ran the place. When Brooks won his Ward C seat, he had the ordinance changed protecting tenants. Landlords cannot pass on a tax increase to tenants. When taxes go up, they, the owners, go to tax court to win an appeal and we the public float bonds to repay them. I was a tax court with a friend recently because she did not understand the process. Before she was called, I watched the tax board reduced an assessments on a rent control building by one million, the commissioner said, other Hudson County towns allow tax pass alongs but not JC so the owner is entitled to a reduction. I have no problem with rent control but if you vote and want services especially school services, then you should pay the taxes. It is the reason why small landlords decided to sell their buildings and they are now condos. By the way, new construction is exempt from JC rent control laws.

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I wish James Solomon worked on updating the rent control ordinance. I think it has been the same since the 80’s. I have “tenants” who don’t really live in the apartment and have others staying. I am sure they are subletting/Airbnb type. In NY you need to have the apartment as your primary residency. Not here.

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there are a glut of apartments in downtown jersey city. from what i have seen rents for older homes have been falling



really? could you post a few that are a part of this "glut" i have friends that are currently looking for something reasonable.
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what do they consider reasonable? What us their price range, how many beds, new or old? They should check out Craigslist, delforno or armagno, etc.

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there are a glut of apartments in downtown jersey city. from what i have seen rents for older homes have been falling



really? could you post a few that are a part of this "glut" i have friends that are currently looking for something reasonable.
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there are a glut of apartments in downtown jersey city. from what i have seen rents for older homes have been falling

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The proposed regulation differentiate between smaller owner-occupied buildings and larger non-owner unoccupied ones. I wonder what criteria they used to restrict to 3-family or below. Certainly it seems to be unfair to owner occupied 4 family buildings that already face state inspection schedules and regulations. One the topic of the licensing fee, are the proposed $500 and $300 renewal fees going to replace the ~6% tax that prevailed before? Imho it would be much simpler to have a fixed day city fee added to the rent. I have seen this working in Italy and I thought it was an appropriate way to remind folks that there are folks taking care of the city - and they should behave appropriately.

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A closer look at Jersey City’s crackdown on Airbnb and other short-term rentals
Updated Apr 25, 6:41 PM; Posted Apr 25, 5:53 PM
By Michaelangelo Conte | The Jersey Journal

On any given night, about 1,300 rental units in Downtown Jersey City are rented out through services like Airbnb, helping boost the city’s economy and bolster local tourism.

But Councilman James Solomon says Airbnb and services like it also drive up rents, making it a key reason why he and other support an ordinance severely limiting short-term rentals.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/04/a-cl ... r-short-term-rentals.html

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I don't care one way or the other about this - never stayed in one, nor have I noticed any effect from any AirBnB's in my neighborhood (have no idea if there are any) but won't Jersey City miss the nearly $2 million in added tax revenue? How do they propose to replace that money?
i too wonder how jersey city will make up for $2 milion in lost taxes. the city will likley need to raise property taxes, and this would be after the reval which has already hurt many dowtown homeowners and comes amid a glut of new apartments downtown.

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I don't care one way or the other about this - never stayed in one, nor have I noticed any effect from any AirBnB's in my neighborhood (have no idea if there are any) but won't Jersey City miss the nearly $2 million in added tax revenue? How do they propose to replace that money?

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We have been all around the world and always stayed in interesting AirBnBs. AirBnBs are cheaper than the hotels and provide a unique experience of living in a home with kitchen.
We now own 1 AirBnb apartment and we intend to grow.
AirBnBs are bringing additional tax revenues to Jersey City (1.9 million last year) and additional business/job for restaurants, cleaners and hosts. There is no abnormal evidence of any AirBnB guests causing issues for our Jersey City. At least no documented evidence is provided in favor of the ordinance. AirBnB and Uber like peer to peer businesses are the future.
Because of AirBnBs and accessibility to New York, Jersey City is now known to many tourists.
If there are issues and problems with current set-up of AirBnBs or guests in Jersey City then I am sure that they can be solved without banning AirBnBs.
I think it is wrong to ban AirBnB. If you support AirBnBs then please join this facebook page and whatsapp group.

https://chat.whatsapp.com/H13WrER4Xj79gMkkVHTrgl

https://www.jcforairbnb.com/

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I have no opinion on this, nicky. One thing is for sure, if I am missing, skip my husband, go straight to nicky. He has the serious problem.

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The mayor is apparently for this, so it would stand to reason the Queen NIMBY Yvonne would be 100% against and rallying her minions. Why is she silent on this issue since she’s always the one yammering about property rights? Did the hotel unions pay her off too?

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