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By Michael Sol Warren mwarren@njadvancemedia.com,
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In the midst of Trenton's swirling budget debate, New Jersey drew one step closer to becoming the first state to impose state-wide fees on single-use plastic and paper bags.

On Thursday night, state lawmakers approved a five-cent fee for every bag handed out at chain supermarkets and retailers. The measure applies to both paper and plastic bags. The goal of the fees is to discourage the use of single-use plastic bags and push consumers towards reusable bags instead.

"Most stores have made the change and now provide more environmentally friendly bags for customers," said Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle (D-Bergen), the sponsor of the Assembly bill. "This bill encourages more stores to get on board and move away from using the bags that are harmful to the environment."

The bill now heads to Gov. Phil Murphy's desk.

"Governor Murphy will carefully consider any legislation that aims to protect the environment in New Jersey," said Dan Bryan, a spokesman for the Governor.
https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018 ... 2box_nj-homepage-featured

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I was at the caucus meeting, it is for all items. There will be plastic for produce, but those things do fall out or there are no plastic for produce available. There are recalls of vegetables all the time due to bacteria outbreaks. JC received state funding recently for HIV, Stds, and TB listed in the agenda. We have a large population needing this service. I am pointing out that population need to be careful. So do people undergoing cancer treatment. They have a weak immune system so they must be careful and wash their cloth bags.

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JC is on the receiving list of monies from different agencies because some people here have TB, HIV, and STD and their immune system is compromise. A simple food virus can do them in. This is also a problem for cancer patients.



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People who use cloth bags should wash them often. Milk, meat and fish should not be in the same bag as fresh produce. JC is on the receiving list of monies from different agencies because some people here have TB, HIV, and STD and their immune system is compromise. A simple food virus can do them in. This is also a problem for cancer patients.

I don't think the ban will affect farmers markets, fruit and vegetable stores, or the produce isles.

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People who use cloth bags should wash them often. Milk, meat and fish should not be in the same bag as fresh produce. JC is on the receiving list of monies from different agencies because some people here have TB, HIV, and STD and their immune system is compromise. A simple food virus can do them in. This is also a problem for cancer patients.

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I hate this idea, it's the people who have to walk numerous blocks home after a long day of work with multiple bags of groceries that suffer the most from this. Hopefully they remember the same politicians that screwed them over with this idiotic ban the next election.


You act like the sky is falling. It's not very difficult to buy a reusable bag and keep it with you. Here, I found a small, affordable one for you already --> baggu.com/collections/reusable-bags


I was in Morocco recently where they've also banned plastic bags. They just had cloth ones instead, so no problems really.


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I hate this idea, it's the people who have to walk numerous blocks home after a long day of work with multiple bags of groceries that suffer the most from this. Hopefully they remember the same politicians that screwed them over with this idiotic ban the next election.


You act like the sky is falling. It's not very difficult to buy a reusable bag and keep it with you. Here, I found a small, affordable one for you already --> baggu.com/collections/reusable-bags


I was in Morocco recently where they've also banned plastic bags. They just had cloth ones instead, so no problems really.

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I have been using baggu for years because I walk over a mile home with groceries. They hold more than a grocery store plastic bag so you don't need as many too. Seriously, end the pity party.

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I hate this idea, it's the people who have to walk numerous blocks home after a long day of work with multiple bags of groceries that suffer the most from this. Hopefully they remember the same politicians that screwed them over with this idiotic ban the next election.


You act like the sky is falling. It's not very difficult to buy a reusable bag and keep it with you. Here, I found a small, affordable one for you already --> baggu.com/collections/reusable-bags

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The worse polluters of plastic bags are Asian countries. https://www.audubon.org/news/these-5-c ... biggest-plastic-polluters

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Not sure if the ban is all encompassing but I asked a bodega owner about it and had no idea of it. When I told him he just laughed and said it would never be enforced.

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I hate this idea, it's the people who have to walk numerous blocks home after a long day of work with multiple bags of groceries that suffer the most from this. Hopefully they remember the same politicians that screwed them over with this idiotic ban the next election.

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I use a cloth tote. Its re-usable. Most of the stores I grocery shop at uses paper shopping bags.
Anyway Banning is one thing enforcing is another. Lets see.

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I remember the activists going to television in the 1960s urging people to use plastic. They said the public was hurting the rain forest by using paper bags. I was skeptical at first since the bags look flimsy but unlike paper, plastic bags did not come apart in the rain. I do remember chasing can goods when a sudden storm came up and the wet paper bag fell apart.

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So I guess in the near future, I will be buying boxes of small plastic trash bags. I re-use my shopping bags as trash liners and for other purposes.

I do the same, and use reusable bags, but I think we're in the minority. I suspect the vast majority of plastic bags go right into the trash.

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So shoprite is going to stop using plastic bags? I'll believe that when I see it.

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Same here. I wonder if instead of a heavy handed approach like banning plastic bags, perhaps stores could be asked to enable customers to reuse, return, and/or recycle their plastic bags.


The ocean pollution issues are largely due to the third world (parts of Asia in particular) that lacking landfill space, just dump their trash in the ocean. Indiscriminate ocean dumping was common practice in NYC until NJ sued to get it to stop (way back in the 1920). Everything from melon rinds to dead horses were washing up on the NJ shore... which was bad for business.

The reusable bags are not the most sanitary thing in the world and have been linked to an increase in food poisoning.

We do have a litter issue in Jersey City. This is a cultural problem. We will just replace plastic with paper trash. Plastic grocery bags btw actually break down faster than paper, when exposed to sunlight (UV). If trash is being properly disposed of, being made of plastic, paper, or fairy dust isn't going to be an issue.

Recycling of plastic an industry in crisis mode right now. A lot of what is being collected is being put into landfills or incinerated. China absorbed about 60% of all the plastic collected in the world for recycling. They pretty much banned the importation of scrap plastic (and a lot of paper) starting this January. The recycling industry was causing them all sorts of major environmental issues.





Its easier / cheaper / cleaner to make new plastic, with the raw material sources here in the USA (made from cracking ethane, which we have lots of in the Marcellus and Utica shale deposits).

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So I guess in the near future, I will be buying boxes of small plastic trash bags. I re-use my shopping bags as trash liners and for other purposes.


Same here. I wonder if instead of a heavy handed approach like banning plastic bags, perhaps stores could be asked to enable customers to reuse, return, and/or recycle their plastic bags. At the Wegman's in Woodbridge, there is a large bin where people can drop off excess plastic bags and others can help themselves to them. It seems like a sensical approach that allows for plastic bags to get a second or third use. Lots of people use them as trash bags (much like yourself, or myself for that matter) and others use them as doggie bags.

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So I guess in the near future, I will be buying boxes of small plastic trash bags. I re-use my shopping bags as trash liners and for other purposes.

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