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Re: Plastic bag bans coming to Hoboken, Jersey City
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I'm sure they wouldn't refuse your finest cutlery if you actually gave a rat's ass.


On a brighter note, plastic utensils are still recyclable while bags... not so much.

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The Hoboken shelter is looking for plastic utensils.

https://hobokenshelter.org/items-needed/

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I wonder if its time to ban plastic eating utensils. i'm about to toss a bag full that Chinese delivery keeps bringing despite my requests that I don't need plastic ware

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i didn't know california had a state-wide ban on plastic bags! wow! I would have thought Cali would have returned to the dark ages!



https://www.latimes.com/opinion/editor ... rsary-20171118-story.html

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Plastics Bag.... Straws.... What about plastic eating utensils?

Ohhhhhh wait a minute.... https://nypost.com/2019/02/16/city-cou ... r&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

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We've got a pile of canvas style bags to grab when actually grocery shopping, and the little stuffsack nylon bags to (hopefully) have in your pocket or bag for a quick unplanned shop. The latter are like $2-3 each on Amazon in package of 4-8 bags.

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We had gotten a few ChicoBags as premiums from WNYC, and they're great. A little more expensive at $6 each. But they will custom print them, and someone could probably do pretty well selling ones with branding or cute locally inspired graphics.

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Keeping the large supermarket bags in your car should be easy. Maybe two folded ones in the stroller?

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LOL.... somehow I think you are totally missing the point of this green program. You do know that we have only 11 years to live before Mother Nature rightfully reclaims what is her's.

Now.... what row at Home Depot did you say you found them???



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A box of 1,000 bags is only $25. Figure I'll buy a box and keep a bunch in the car and my kid's stroller (which seconds as a shopping cart).


I found these in Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Inteplast-THW1V ... B004MDM6LC/ref=pd_cp_79_2

The reviews are fairly solid. There are other choices, but they are thinner and unable to hold much weight, according to reviews. Of course, you can always double bag them.

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LOL.... somehow I think you are totally missing the point of this green program. You do know that we have only 11 years to live before Mother Nature rightfully reclaims what is her's.

Now.... what row at Home Depot did you say you found them???



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A box of 1,000 bags is only $25. Figure I'll buy a box and keep a bunch in the car and my kid's stroller (which seconds as a shopping cart).

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A box of 1,000 bags is only $25. Figure I'll buy a box and keep a bunch in the car and my kid's stroller (which seconds as a shopping cart).

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INFORMATION ON JERSEY CITY'S BAG BAN

Jersey City will enforce a city-wide ban on single-use plastic carry-out bags STARTING JUNE 28, 2019.

The City of Jersey City Municipal Council passed Ordinance 18-065 ,which prohibits retailers from providing single-use plastic carry-out bags and non-recyclable paper bags to customers at the checkout counter of retail stores.

Instead, customers will need to bring their own bag or use an alternative bag provided by retailers.

This ordinance affects all retailers, including grocery stores, restaurants, corner stores, pharmacies, clothing shops, hardware stores, beer and liquor stores, and every other retail store that provides bags to customers at point of sale.
The purpose of this ban is to reduce litter, protect the environment, and remove hard-to-recycle bags from our waste stream.

https://www.jerseycitynj.gov/cms/one.aspx?pageId=15092347


Want to help shift the culture of disposables in Jersey City? Email an actual photo of yourself or someone you know in Jersey City-using reusables (reusable bag, coffee cup or water bottle) to makeitgreen@jcnj.org and receive a free reusable bag or other Office of Sustainability swag.

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The morning of June 28 at the local ShopRite will be fun...!

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maybe there should be a charge of $0.05 per plastic bag.

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INFORMATION ON JERSEY CITY'S BAG BAN

Jersey City will enforce a city-wide ban on single-use plastic carry-out bags STARTING JUNE 28, 2019.

The City of Jersey City Municipal Council passed Ordinance 18-065 ,which prohibits retailers from providing single-use plastic carry-out bags and non-recyclable paper bags to customers at the checkout counter of retail stores.

Instead, customers will need to bring their own bag or use an alternative bag provided by retailers.

This ordinance affects all retailers, including grocery stores, restaurants, corner stores, pharmacies, clothing shops, hardware stores, beer and liquor stores, and every other retail store that provides bags to customers at point of sale.
The purpose of this ban is to reduce litter, protect the environment, and remove hard-to-recycle bags from our waste stream.

https://www.jerseycitynj.gov/cms/one.aspx?pageId=15092347


Want to help shift the culture of disposables in Jersey City? Email an actual photo of yourself or someone you know in Jersey City-using reusables (reusable bag, coffee cup or water bottle) to makeitgreen@jcnj.org and receive a free reusable bag or other Office of Sustainability swag.

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Do you retract your statement that environmentalists are opposed to new forms of energy?

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So where is this solar, Obama gave millions? In the meanwhile, traditional sources are being stopped and more buildings are going up.

http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of- ... n-energy-solar-companies/

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Yvonne, do you know any environmentalists who oppose solar and wind power?

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While this is slightly off the topic, the environmentalists who want to ban plastic bags are also opposed to new sources of energy. I had a brownout recently, there is so much construction going on in Hudson County, especially JC, that this issue cannot be ignored. It is similar to everyone sharing the old telephone party line.

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But seriously, is the site of the project going to be in NJ?


The plan is NYC first, which has a far worse problem with municipal waste and sludge than NJ. NYC plans to be 'zero landfill use' by year 2030 and wants to have only single stream collection (one truck picks up everything instead of separate pickups for paper, cans/bottles, regular trash). So far, they are nowhere near of meeting those goals. Plus, the trash export costs have exploded ($400 million a year starting in 2019).

Right now, NYC is 100% dependent on landfills as far away as Arkansas or use waste to energy incinerators here in NJ and upstate NY. Remember the big dust-up about the garbage transfer station proposed for Greenville yards? That was part of NYC plan to send trash to the Covanta incinerator in Newark.

Plus NY state is looking at a potential electric grid collapse once Indian Point shuts down in a few years. New England is in even worse shape. The New England grid was within days of collapse during the cold snap late last December through early January. The power plants couldn't get enough natural gas and switched over to oil. Oil reserved dropped by 60% or so because the fuel was being used up faster than it could be imported. NY has the same issue.. lack of gas pipeline capacity.

The plant proposed can make electricity, liquid fuels, or renewable natural gas (or combination thereof).

There is a site in Hudson County that looks interesting (not in Jersey City) to setup shop.

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So basically, anything related to waste is in my morning news feed.


This website is a good place to start your day, then. *sad trombone sound*

But seriously, is the site of the project going to be in NJ?

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i know you can recycle plastic water bottles, but i dont think you can recycle plastic bags right?


Plastic that is a 'thermoplastic' can technically be melted back down and reused. This includes the poly bags you get at the store. The problem is even a little bit of contamination can ruin a batch of plastic.

For example: If even a few percent by weight of #5 plastic ends up with #1 and #2, the batch is completely ruined. I had this happen years back when using decking made from recycled plastic. The deck boards shattered when they were drilled into. The manufacturer sent replacements and explained their last batch of plastic scrap was contaminated from the supplier.

Contamination can also be from food waste, grease, or anything else that gets mixed in with what you are trying to recycle. Whether is be plastic or paper. For example, pizza boxes are generally not recyclable.

China put a near total ban* on scrap imports (includes plastic, paper, and electronic waste) because the trash was being separated by hand. The non-recyclable stuff was being dumped in rivers, burned, or ended up in the bellies of grazing animals. It was an environmental disaster.

* China requires all scrap imported be 99.5% free of contamination.

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Vietnam just stopped imports. In Thailand, there are 400 containers of scrap plastic, paper, and electronic waste that have been blocked by Thai customs. Some of those containers are now coming back to the USA. The Thais freaked out over practices like burning the electronic waste (with no environmental controls) to get recover the metals. The air around these plants became toxic.

With the exception of cardboard and metals (aluminum cans), recycling in the USA, Europe, and Australia has been reliant on shipping to the third world. That is now ending.

BTW: If you are wondering why I follow this news... I am on a project via work to locate a site and build a plant that resolves the above recycling issues. So basically, anything related to waste is in my morning news feed.

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i know you can recycle plastic water bottles, but i dont think you can recycle plastic bags right?


You can, but the problem is that plastic waste in the United States just isn't being recycled anymore. China decided to stop accepting foreign plastic for recycling and the US doesn't have the infrastructure to handle the waste, so basically everything you put in your recycling bin is winding up in the landfill anyway.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/29/cli ... fills-plastic-papers.html

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i know you can recycle plastic water bottles, but i dont think you can recycle plastic bags right?

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The worse problem is water bottles, which this ban does not attack.

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Some here might find this interesting (via Wattsupwiththat.com):

SAVE THE OCEANS! STOP RECYCLING PLASTICS!

https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/06/Save-the-oceans.pdf

* Most of the plastic waste comes from just a few countries, mostly in Asia and Africa.

* 25% is “leakage” from Asian waste management processes — the rest is waste that has never been collected, but is simply thrown into rivers.

* But European countries ship inject huge quantities of waste into Asian waste management streams, ostensibly for recycling. As much as 20% — millions of tons every year — ends up in the oceans and will continue to do so.

* Since the Chinese banned waste imports at the start of the year, shipments have been diverted to other Asian countries with even weaker environmental controls (Figure 1).

* EU recycling is therefore a major contributor to marine waste and increasing recycling will therefore simply increase marine litter.

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By Terrence T. McDonald tmcdonald@jjournal.com
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Plastic bag bans have now been adopted by Jersey City's and Hoboken's councils, just as New Jersey prepares to stop municipalities from enacting local bans.

Both measures, which passed with unanimous support, would largely require retailers to provide only reusable and/or recyclable paper bags to customers. There are exemptions, including bags to wrap newspapers, dry cleaning items, frozen foods, meat and fish.

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I wish 60 Minutes and other programs basically PBS would run their old shows where activists come on television telling the public to abandon paper and use plastic. They said, "We are harming the planet,"


yep and at one time cigarettes were healthy lol

stop acting low IQ. it's called evolving. try to keep up.


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I wish 60 Minutes and other programs basically PBS would run their old shows where activists come on television telling the public to abandon paper and use plastic. They said, "We are harming the planet,"

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I was at the caucus meeting, it is for all items. There will be plastic for produce, but those things do fall out or there are no plastic for produce available. There are recalls of vegetables all the time due to bacteria outbreaks. JC received state funding recently for HIV, Stds, and TB listed in the agenda. We have a large population needing this service. I am pointing out that population need to be careful. So do people undergoing cancer treatment. They have a weak immune system so they must be careful and wash their cloth bags.


The "Eww it's dirty" hang-ups are why we have so much plastic waste.

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Another tax, and another reason why people are fleeing the State of New Jersey.

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This makes a whole lot more sense than a ban on plastic bags.

funny, how things finally come around - http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... es-would-not-be-affected/

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By Michael Sol Warren mwarren@njadvancemedia.com,
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In the midst of Trenton's swirling budget debate, New Jersey drew one step closer to becoming the first state to impose state-wide fees on single-use plastic and paper bags.

On Thursday night, state lawmakers approved a five-cent fee for every bag handed out at chain supermarkets and retailers. The measure applies to both paper and plastic bags. The goal of the fees is to discourage the use of single-use plastic bags and push consumers towards reusable bags instead.

"Most stores have made the change and now provide more environmentally friendly bags for customers," said Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle (D-Bergen), the sponsor of the Assembly bill. "This bill encourages more stores to get on board and move away from using the bags that are harmful to the environment."

The bill now heads to Gov. Phil Murphy's desk.

"Governor Murphy will carefully consider any legislation that aims to protect the environment in New Jersey," said Dan Bryan, a spokesman for the Governor.
https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2018 ... 2box_nj-homepage-featured

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