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What benefits? I sent my children to Catholic schools. The schools took my tax dollars that I never used. Where is my break? Besides, the amount I paid to the county make up for is missing to the schools. Only 5% goes to the county even though tax abated buildings also receive those services.

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Yes, but JC taxpayers have enjoyed the benefits of having suburban taxpayers pay for educating their schoolchildren-billions of dollars. Your demand that they pay even more to cover JC charter schools is a non starter.

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The state of NJ was a partner in crime with JC. They allowed a changed in tax laws in 1990 introduced by the 31st District to give tax abatements to market rate housing, until the law was changed abatements were limited to low income housing. Newport was built (1980s) without tax abatements but was applied much later. The state knew exactly what was going on in every administration. The state knew no school taxes will be collected, so in essence, the state gave the matches to JC in order to burn the school tax base.

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You can’t ignore the tax rate. JC taxpayers have a sweet deal because suburban taxpayers fund its schools for them. Asking them to fund JC charter schools is insulting and absurd.

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I don't think people living downtown and paying $20K to $40K are getting away with not paying taxes. The fact that Murphy is trying to buy votes with paying for Community colleges at the expense of cutting school aid is wrong. The state allowed the laws that many JC mayors used for tax abatements knowing full well it will cut into educational funding. So, yes, the state is responsible. For many years, the Department of Community affairs approved our budgets and bonding. The state had the tools to takeover JC budget has it has done in many community including Hoboken about 15 to 20 years ago.

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Yvonne, the fact remains that JC taxpayers pay only 17% of the cost cost of educating its own children, while enjoying a local tax rate far less than the state average. Trying to pick the pockets of suburban taxpayers to pay more is a non starter. How about JC pay its fair share?

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Monroe, here is the point, charter schools started in school districts that got that cash cow (state money). Those communities that did not receive that money did not start charter schools. As I said before, Bayonne mayor and assemblyman introduced the bill and there is no charter schools in Bayonne because Bayonne did not receive the funding like JC. Murphy is paying for his community college with funds that would have gone to districts like JC.

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Yvonne, Trenton gives many suburban towns very little in school aid, not the over 80% it gives JC. And those towns pay a ton of $ in income and sales tax and see JC and Newark schools getting almost 1.5 billion each and every year. Now you want suburban towns to pay for JC charter schools? Ain’t gonna happen.

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Of course the state should, after all the state said, lottery, sales, and income tax should go to public schools. Charter schools have insisted they are public schools, Monroe. Besides, I still remember legislators coming to the Van Vorst community pushing for the state income tax saying it will replace school property taxes. They lied.

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No, they’re not obligated to-JC has known for 8 years this reduction was coming, and refused to prepare a plan to address it, and also gave away Pilots during that time.

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I am saying, former Assemblyman Joe Doria, who introduced this bill for former mayor Bret Schundler, told me Bayonne will not have charter schools because they cannot afford to spend the money. The state has the obligation to provide the funding when they pass the any laws. They took away JC extra funding so they are obliged to foot the charter school bill.

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Are you saying other taxpayers pick up the cost of charter schools AND continue to fund over $400 million for JC schools??

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This is my suggestion, have the state pay for charter schools. Only school systems that received large state aid had charter schools. Those that received little to no state aid, did not start charter schools. $67 million leaves the Jersey City school budget to charter schools. Realistically, today, if charter school laws were passed today, considering the funding problems there would be no charter schools. My comments are not an attack on charter schools but it is a realistic picture of the problem.

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I daresay the idea of taxing marijuana sales partly for our children future is a delightful proposition. Sin to Science!

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Why not JC step up and pay its fair share of educating its own kids instead of robbing others?

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I think the payroll tax is a good first step, but why not have a municipal gas tax and maybe a municipal tax on marijuana if it is ever legalized

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Public speaks out on proposed Jersey City payroll tax

JERSEY CITY — Hundreds of people filled the City Council's chambers on Tuesday night to urge the council to pass a payroll tax that is intended to fill a yawning budget gap facing the city's public school system.

Supporters of the tax plan chanted "we hope you fund our schools" before the start of the meeting. They sent children up to each council member with bags containing water bottles — a reference to the lead contamination in the schools' drinking water — and a flyer describing the district's "funding crisis."

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _jersey_city_payroll.html


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Councilpresident Lavarro introduced his own tax at .75%, less than one percent to protect the business community. He suggests the city gives them our money from the Port Authority settlement and future tax abatements. But that will not cover a shortfall of $170 million plus according to the state, the school are already short $100 million bringing the total to really $270 million. Then he suggests we audit the schools spending, Lavarro forgets under Fulop, spending increased from $585 million to $621 million. But he plans on cutting the fat from the school budget. By the way, Lavarro is ignoring the upcoming bond debt since the city bonded $170 million for Bayfront plus other bonds bringing our debt to $870 billion. That debt does not include tax appeals that is going on now.

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Is it any wonder why Amazon is bypassing New Jersey?
aren't taxes much higher in nyc than in jc or nj?


Give NJ some more time. We'll end up tops. And Amazon knows it.
i'd rather pay more taxes to live in NY/NJ area than no/low taxes to live in places like missippi or alabama or anywhere between the northeast and California.

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Give NJ some more time. We'll end up tops. And Amazon knows it.

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Is it any wonder why Amazon is bypassing New Jersey?

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Jersey City payroll tax clears hurdle amid objections

JERSEY CITY — Dozens of union workers crowded inside the City Council chambers on Wednesday to show their opposition to a proposed payroll tax, with business owners telling the council to put the brakes on a tax plan they say will devastate the business community.

Parents, meanwhile, urged council members to support the tax, saying the expected revenue is needed to stave off major budget cuts at the public school district. A form of state aid that brought the district about $170 million this year is being taken away in chunks starting in July.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _hurdle_amid_objecti.html

have I seen this play book before? Whenever wants or dislikes something, they get a bunch of union people to protest. This is BS. As JC becomes more prosperous, JC should shoulder more if it's JCBOE costs...Maybe municipalities should be allowed to have an income tax too.

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Jersey City payroll tax clears hurdle amid objections

JERSEY CITY — Dozens of union workers crowded inside the City Council chambers on Wednesday to show their opposition to a proposed payroll tax, with business owners telling the council to put the brakes on a tax plan they say will devastate the business community.

Parents, meanwhile, urged council members to support the tax, saying the expected revenue is needed to stave off major budget cuts at the public school district. A form of state aid that brought the district about $170 million this year is being taken away in chunks starting in July.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _hurdle_amid_objecti.html


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Now that this is happening - what will happen to Downtown JC, or JC as a whole, as far as property taxes?

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Jersey City payroll tax waiting for gov's signature

The proposed Jersey City payroll tax awaits Gov. Phil Murphy's signature, but it's unclear whether it will become law.

The plan, which would allow for a maximum 1 percent tax on a Jersey City business' total payroll, was dreamed up as a way to offset potential cuts in state aid to the city's public school district. Those cuts are part of a school funding formula bill proposed by Democratic state Sen. President Stephen Sweeney and also awaiting Murphy's pen.

https://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... y_payroll_tax_waitin.html



And Amazon is considering Newark for HQ2? haha.

I'm pretty sure we're screwed either way. tax and spend.

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Jersey City payroll tax waiting for gov's signature

The proposed Jersey City payroll tax awaits Gov. Phil Murphy's signature, but it's unclear whether it will become law.

The plan, which would allow for a maximum 1 percent tax on a Jersey City business' total payroll, was dreamed up as a way to offset potential cuts in state aid to the city's public school district. Those cuts are part of a school funding formula bill proposed by Democratic state Sen. President Stephen Sweeney and also awaiting Murphy's pen.

https://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... y_payroll_tax_waitin.html


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Interesting story on what percentage of your income funds your local schools. 5% is the state average, JC comes in at 2.9%. By comparison, Millburn is 5.9% (and it has the highest median income in the state, so that's a big number).

Mendham Township and Boro are 7.3 and 7.0%.

Just another example of how undertaxed JC is.

http://www.nj.com/data/2018/06/school ... up.html#incart_most-read_

Compare Jersey City with Bayonne.

JC family income is $60,703-2.9%
Bayonne income is $54,872-7.8%

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Big Brother Bezos is watching.

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