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It has occurred to me (yes, maybe I should already know this) that, given that the new assessments are supposed to be mailed out in stages until March 15, and that the first two tax bills of 2018 are based on the old assessments and tax rate, the final two tax bills of 2018 will bill not only at the new tax rate and assessment, but will also include the retroactive billing for the the first two quarters. For those with a significant tax increase, the retroactive portion added to the new bill could make for a very difficult second half of 2018, especially for long-time fixed income residents. Those who are not following closely should be made aware in order to prepare, especially if the new assessment arrives only in mid-March.

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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?


Condition A,B or C?
Room and bathroom count?
Done.
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You summed it up perfectly, I thought they were supposed to asses the hvac, condition of the bathrooms and kitchens and any renovations according to the letter I received. I guess those things matter less now.


More important for single-family home than condo. But honestly no need to inspect every home in the city.


I'm ok with the inspection as long as the assessment isn't wildly inflated. The tax dept has a history of doing this.

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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?


Condition A,B or C?
Room and bathroom count?
Done.
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You summed it up perfectly, I thought they were supposed to asses the hvac, condition of the bathrooms and kitchens and any renovations according to the letter I received. I guess those things matter less now.


More important for single-family home than condo. But honestly no need to inspect every home in the city.

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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?


Condition A,B or C?
Room and bathroom count?
Done.
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You summed it up perfectly, I thought they were supposed to asses the hvac, condition of the bathrooms and kitchens and any renovations according to the letter I received. I guess those things matter less now.

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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?


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Done.
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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?


I still have not even received an appointment card or any communication at all from the appraisers...isn't this supposed to be wrapping up by the end of next week?

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The appraiser came in to look at my condo he spent all of 2 minutes looking at the entire place. Can they really take an accurate assessment in that time?

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I may hearing this has been pushed back 6 months

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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.


I am not so sure. I did ask the appraiser about this. Although the inspection was brief he was assessing what heating system there was (ie central HVAC) whether there was parking and whether the kitchen and bathrooms had been renovated. I was told that if an inspection is not completed they will assume the answer to all their questions is "yes" and the assessment will be likely significantly over-inflated.


You obviously missed the part about being able to request an inspection after an estimate is disclosed. The process was clearly laid out earlier in this thread: if an in-person inspection can not be completed, they will leave a note and will attempt a second time. If during that second attempt they are not able to gain access, they will leave a note with an estimate of value. You can then request an interior inspection if you think the estimate is not accurate.

See the last paragraph of the last page of the brochure released by the company doing the inspections:

http://asinj.com/revaluation/docs/int ... evaluation%20Brochure.pdf



I missed nothing. I spoke to the inspector at length about this. They were not going to make a second attempt at my property for the others tenants. They leave a note for you to call and schedule an inspection (or just leave it, if preferred). Then an owner can appeal after they send the estimates out.


Before the estimated values are final and bills are sent out, there will be a period when homeowners will be informed of the estimated valuations and they will be able to review and request an inspection explanation.

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Other states have a seamless property assessment process that update annually. But of course New Jersey has to have some backward byzantine process where a property's assessment can be current market value, or the value that existed 40 years ago.


At a minimum, property assessments should be done at the county level and leave the town's out of it. It would cut out some of the self-serving BS and possible fraud with property owners being very friendly with the town assessor.

Not speaking about Jersey City specifically, just the whole process in general.

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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.


I am not so sure. I did ask the appraiser about this. Although the inspection was brief he was assessing what heating system there was (ie central HVAC) whether there was parking and whether the kitchen and bathrooms had been renovated. I was told that if an inspection is not completed they will assume the answer to all their questions is "yes" and the assessment will be likely significantly over-inflated.


You obviously missed the part about being able to request an inspection after an estimate is disclosed. The process was clearly laid out earlier in this thread: if an in-person inspection can not be completed, they will leave a note and will attempt a second time. If during that second attempt they are not able to gain access, they will leave a note with an estimate of value. You can then request an interior inspection if you think the estimate is not accurate.

See the last paragraph of the last page of the brochure released by the company doing the inspections:

http://asinj.com/revaluation/docs/int ... evaluation%20Brochure.pdf



I missed nothing. I spoke to the inspector at length about this. They were not going to make a second attempt at my property for the others tenants. They leave a note for you to call and schedule an inspection (or just leave it, if preferred). Then an owner can appeal after they send the estimates out.

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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.


I am not so sure. I did ask the appraiser about this. Although the inspection was brief he was assessing what heating system there was (ie central HVAC) whether there was parking and whether the kitchen and bathrooms had been renovated. I was told that if an inspection is not completed they will assume the answer to all their questions is "yes" and the assessment will be likely significantly over-inflated.


You obviously missed the part about being able to request an inspection after an estimate is disclosed. The process was clearly laid out earlier in this thread: if an in-person inspection can not be completed, they will leave a note and will attempt a second time. If during that second attempt they are not able to gain access, they will leave a note with an estimate of value. You can then request an interior inspection if you think the estimate is not accurate.

See the last paragraph of the last page of the brochure released by the company doing the inspections:

http://asinj.com/revaluation/docs/int ... evaluation%20Brochure.pdf


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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.


I am not so sure. I did ask the appraiser about this. Although the inspection was brief he was assessing what heating system there was (ie central HVAC) whether there was parking and whether the kitchen and bathrooms had been renovated. I was told that if an inspection is not completed they will assume the answer to all their questions is "yes" and the assessment will be likely significantly over-inflated.


But then you can informally request a review. I agree with bodhipooh and not buying this propaganda it's in the best interest to have a physical inspection.

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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.


I am not so sure. I did ask the appraiser about this. Although the inspection was brief he was assessing what heating system there was (ie central HVAC) whether there was parking and whether the kitchen and bathrooms had been renovated. I was told that if an inspection is not completed they will assume the answer to all their questions is "yes" and the assessment will be likely significantly over-inflated.

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All the properties will be assessed. Getting assessed in November instead of August doesn't offer any advantage.

The "boondoggle" was the endless delays in getting the reval started in the first place. So far, things seem to be proceeding normally.


100% agreed on this. And, yes, ultimately all that matters is that all properties be (accurately) assessed by the stated deadline.

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Anyone else find it odd that, out of all the JC neighborhoods, DTJC is the only one that has a fraction of homes assessed?

Huh?

Several neighborhoods have spotty assessment completions, and we are a long way from completion. There are big swaths around Lincoln Park and Greenville that are completely untouched.


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Given all the not-so-good optics of the tax situation prior to the reval, and all the talk of reverse robin hood scenarios, you would think that the people in charge would have wanted to quell any more talk of non-DTJC neighborhoods getting shafted. But, what do I know? This whole thing has been a boondoggle.

Huh?

All the properties will be assessed. Getting assessed in November instead of August doesn't offer any advantage.

The "boondoggle" was the endless delays in getting the reval started in the first place. So far, things seem to be proceeding normally.

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Anyone else find it odd that, out of all the JC neighborhoods, DTJC is the only one that has a fraction of homes assessed? Given all the not-so-good optics of the tax situation prior to the reval, and all the talk of reverse robin hood scenarios, you would think that the people in charge would have wanted to quell any more talk of non-DTJC neighborhoods getting shafted. But, what do I know? This whole thing has been a boondoggle.

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Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.


That's a TERRIBLE assumption. If anything, I think getting assessed sight unseen is perhaps the best possible scenario for a homeowner: if the assessment came in too low, you keep your mouth shut and enjoy the tax break. If it is accurate, then you just pay your tax bill when it shows up. And, if the estimate comes in too high, or even a little above what you think is correct, you can request an in-person inspection, or you can easily appeal when the notices with estimated levies come out. There is LITERALLY no downside to getting a blind revaluation, only potential upside.

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Hazzuh! I called the Tax Assessor's office and spoke to a very nice woman who gave me this website: http://asinj.com/revaluation.asp?p=current&id=359

Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.Quote:

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Not sure how accurate those maps are. I am at Liberty harbor I have had inspector come into my unit and inspect it. However according to the map the only thing that has been inspected in my neighborhood is that little park near Zepellin hall.


Was your inspection in the last three or four weeks? The map is accurate/updated as of September 1, 2017.

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Hazzuh! I called the Tax Assessor's office and spoke to a very nice woman who gave me this website: http://asinj.com/revaluation.asp?p=current&id=359

Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.Quote:

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Not sure how accurate those maps are. I am at Liberty harbor I have had inspector come into my unit and inspect it. However according to the map the only thing that has been inspected in my neighborhood is that little park near Zepellin hall.

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Hazzuh! I called the Tax Assessor's office and spoke to a very nice woman who gave me this website: http://asinj.com/revaluation.asp?p=current&id=359

Type in your address to see if your property is colored in, indicating it has been inspected. Obviously if it is colored in and you had no idea it had been inspected, that's bad and you should call the asinj company. For those of us not yet colored in, I was told to sit tight.Quote:

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Maybe this has already been asked and answered, but in the midst of the current property revaluation, does it make sense to refinance now, or wait for the assessment to be completed early next year? I assume the value determined by the revaluation will have no impact on an appraisal conducted by a bank for a refinancing?

We bought in DTJC in 2015 and our property value appears to have increased (although this is hard to tell with any degree of certainty until we start the refinance and order the appraisal from the bank, or wait for the revaluation to be completed).


Refinance now. Interest rates are going up along with costs. The reval will have no impact on that.

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Just rang. I work from home so happened to be in.

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JSQ here. My building was inspected yesterday.


Seconded. I'm eastern side of JSQ and got mine yesterday too.


Did you guys get notifications beforehand, or they just rang your doorbell?

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Seconded. I'm eastern side of JSQ and got mine yesterday too.

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Maybe this has already been asked and answered, but in the midst of the current property revaluation, does it make sense to refinance now, or wait for the assessment to be completed early next year? I assume the value determined by the revaluation will have no impact on an appraisal conducted by a bank for a refinancing?

We bought in DTJC in 2015 and our property value appears to have increased (although this is hard to tell with any degree of certainty until we start the refinance and order the appraisal from the bank, or wait for the revaluation to be completed).

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JSQ here. My building was inspected yesterday.

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Where are these inspected properties? I live in Journal Square and haven't gotten any postcards or updates regarding the re-eval and as far as I know, no one in my building has been inspected yet. What's the timeline to inspect Journal Square?Quote:

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Here's the latest from the state.

Approximately 50% of properties have been inspected. The work should be completed within the next few months.

Preliminary assessments will likely go out in February. Property owners will have a period to informally challenge the assessment. The final tax list will be published by March 15th. If one doesn't like that number, they can file a formal appeal within 45 days. (Double check on this.)

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Here's the latest from the state.

Approximately 50% of properties have been inspected. The work should be completed within the next few months.

Preliminary assessments will likely go out in February. Property owners will have a period to informally challenge the assessment. The final tax list will be published by March 15th. If one doesn't like that number, they can file a formal appeal within 45 days. (Double check on this.)

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Should we not expect to hear anymore from City Hall on the Reval until after the election?

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