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White House dodges term Trumpcare
With the president unwilling so far to embrace Trumpcare, critics are hijacking the branding process with Ryancare, Obamacare-lite, and Obamacare 2.0.
By MATTHEW NUSSBAUM and JENNIFER HABERKORN 03/08/17 01:46 PM EST

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i hear scumbag is looking at tweaking obama care and dodd-frank....not repealing it.


Obamacare will be referred to as "Trumpcare" with certain unnecessary provisions gotten rid of like same rates for pre-existing conditions. It's gonna be GREAT!

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Trump's first full month in office has shattered expectations, leading to the most new jobs being created in many years. I'm looking forward to 8 more years of this!

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/08/privat ... bs-february-2017-adp.html


Pretty funny watching the sublime media response to this great economic news.

The typical MO from the previous administration was to announce positive economic numbers and growth indicators with great fanfare then, weeks later, adjust everything down because of cold weather :)

All my friends suffering from TDS are very silent today on their social pages. I noticed the same lull after the Trump speech last week.


This is the same report that you qualified as being fake employment report. But now, it is just fine for you...

I called back in December on this forum that Trump supporters will start embracing this 'fake' report under Obama, after the inauguration... so predictable...

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Trump's first full month in office has shattered expectations, leading to the most new jobs being created in many years. I'm looking forward to 8 more years of this!

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/08/privat ... bs-february-2017-adp.html


Pretty funny watching the sublime media response to this great economic news.

The typical MO from the previous administration was to announce positive economic numbers and growth indicators with great fanfare then, weeks later, adjust everything down because of cold weather :)

All my friends suffering from TDS are very silent today on their social pages. I noticed the same lull after the Trump speech last week.

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See that Saudi Arabia and it's practices pose a threat to the US


I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).


I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.


Using allies over there is fine.

I'm more concerned with defense of our own country. And you can't tell me we're keeping our country safe by allowing Saudi Arabians in the country after 9/11. There's no comparison between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's a joke.


This is a silly point. Saudi Arabia will be added to the list when we don't need them anymore. Unfortunately, that probably won't be for a while.

But the perfect is not the enemy of the good.


You're missing the point. We don't need Saudis in our country period.

Yes, it's great to have a strategic ally in the Middle East. But not at the expense of keeping our border vulnerable to terrorist attacks. What happens over here is much more of a direct threat than what happens over there.



No, you are missing the point. The perfect is not the enemy of the good.

The list for the travel ban is just a good start. Of course it could be improved if other countries were added. But what we have now still is helpful.


I understand your point completely. It's not a good solution if Saudi Arabians are still able to enter our country.

This is patting yourself on the back for fixing the faucet even though you have a huge hole in your roof. Congrats, but you have much bigger problems.

Trump could have banned Saudi Arabia but didn't. He banned other countries but not Saudi Arabia. So no, he's not actually concerned with making us safe.

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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/08/privat ... bs-february-2017-adp.html


Comrades - BLAME IT ON OBAMA!

No, wait...this is GOOD news. Attribute to Trump in this instance. Good job Mr. Trump!

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Trump's first full month in office has shattered expectations, leading to the most new jobs being created in many years. I'm looking forward to 8 more years of this!

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/08/privat ... bs-february-2017-adp.html

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See that Saudi Arabia and it's practices pose a threat to the US


I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).


I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.


Using allies over there is fine.

I'm more concerned with defense of our own country. And you can't tell me we're keeping our country safe by allowing Saudi Arabians in the country after 9/11. There's no comparison between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's a joke.


This is a silly point. Saudi Arabia will be added to the list when we don't need them anymore. Unfortunately, that probably won't be for a while.

But the perfect is not the enemy of the good.


You're missing the point. We don't need Saudis in our country period.

Yes, it's great to have a strategic ally in the Middle East. But not at the expense of keeping our border vulnerable to terrorist attacks. What happens over here is much more of a direct threat than what happens over there.



No, you are missing the point. The perfect is not the enemy of the good.

The list for the travel ban is just a good start. Of course it could be improved if other countries were added. But what we have now still is helpful.

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See that Saudi Arabia and it's practices pose a threat to the US


I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).


I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.


Using allies over there is fine.

I'm more concerned with defense of our own country. And you can't tell me we're keeping our country safe by allowing Saudi Arabians in the country after 9/11. There's no comparison between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's a joke.


This is a silly point. Saudi Arabia will be added to the list when we don't need them anymore. Unfortunately, that probably won't be for a while.

But the perfect is not the enemy of the good.


You're missing the point. We don't need Saudis in our country period.

Yes, it's great to have a strategic ally in the Middle East. But not at the expense of keeping our border vulnerable to terrorist attacks. What happens over here is much more of a direct threat than what happens over there.


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Deflect, deflect.

That guy isn't the President.

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Question: What do you call a person who knowingly makes false claims, statements and accusations ?

Answer: TRUMP A liar


Actually, you call that person Khizr Khan. Exploiting his dead son for political gain wasn't enough, had to double down on the lies.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wo ... travel-may-be-unraveling/

Khizr Khan’s claim that the U.S. is restricting his travel may be unraveling

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... -moves-Kaloroma-home.html


Yeah, because more tax cuts for the wealthy and minimum wage jobs for the Trumpians won't do that?

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Question: What do you call a person who knowingly makes false claims, statements and accusations ?

Answer: TRUMP A liar

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I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).


I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.


Using allies over there is fine.

I'm more concerned with defense of our own country. And you can't tell me we're keeping our country safe by allowing Saudi Arabians in the country after 9/11. There's no comparison between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's a joke.


This is a silly point. Saudi Arabia will be added to the list when we don't need them anymore. Unfortunately, that probably won't be for a while.

But the perfect is not the enemy of the good.

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I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).


I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.


Using allies over there is fine.

I'm more concerned with defense of our own country. And you can't tell me we're keeping our country safe by allowing Saudi Arabians in the country after 9/11. There's no comparison between Iran and Saudi Arabia. It's a joke.

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I'm glad to hear a conservative say that. I've seen too many Trump fans parrot his positions without using critical thinking skills.

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I'm a huge Trump supporter and I absolutely hate Saudi Arabia.

However, for the time being they are a necessary ally, unfortunately. Both because of their oil and because they will be funding the safe zones that refugees will go to, which is a more appropriate place for them than here anyway.

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(I know Hillary/Obama fans do the same. I don't like this either).

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See that Saudi Arabia and it's practices pose a threat to the US

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There is plenty of oil everywhere. I don't buy that argument anymore.


I don't think it's necessarily oil, either.

But surely there's a reason why we support an authoritarian regime that sponsors Islamic terrorism. 79% of the 9/11 Bombers were from Saudi Arabia. Should we ban them? Nah

The fact that Iran is on the list and Saudi Arabia isn't is a complete joke.

Hopefully Trump will see it that way.


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There is plenty of oil everywhere. I don't buy that argument anymore.
there might be plenty of oil but is it coming from stable or friendly countries....where is it gonna come from? russia? venezuela? iran? libya? africa - nope, china has pretty much locked up african crude?


We have our own oil. Wasn't the criticism of the Iraq was that it was done to seize control of oil?
true..but saudi arabia remains among the top 3 exporters of crude to the us. and the type of crude that saudi arabia exports could also be a big factor. and don't forget about our allies needing all that oil. plus saudi arabia has been a piggy bank for the us, in financing wars in syria, etc

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there might be plenty of oil but is it coming from stable or friendly countries....where is it gonna come from? russia? venezuela? iran? libya? africa - nope, china has pretty much locked up african crude?


We have our own oil. Wasn't the criticism of the Iraq was that it was done to seize control of oil?

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there might be plenty of oil but is it coming from stable or friendly countries....where is it gonna come from? russia? venezuela? iran? libya? africa - nope, china has pretty much locked up african crude?

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I don't think it's necessarily oil, either.

But surely there's a reason why we support an authoritarian regime that sponsors Islamic terrorism. 79% of the 9/11 Bombers were from Saudi Arabia. Should we ban them? Nah

The fact that Iran is on the list and Saudi Arabia isn't is a complete joke.

Hopefully Trump will see it that way.

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I don't think it's necessarily oil, either.

But surely there's a reason why we support an authoritarian regime that sponsors Islamic terrorism. 79% of the 9/11 Bombers were from Saudi Arabia. Should we ban them? Nah

The fact that Iran is on the list and Saudi Arabia isn't is a complete joke.

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There is plenty of oil everywhere. I don't buy that argument anymore.

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Why hasn't Trump banned Saudi Arabians from the US - Wasn't there a number of Saudi's that crashed the planes in the WTC ... and wasn't Bin Laden a Saudi too ? Oh Siht ! We still get oil from them ... my bad.
really, you don't think trump is gonna do anything to jeopardize that oil....neither did obama or gwb for that matter.

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Why hasn't Trump banned Saudi Arabians from the US - Wasn't there a number of Saudi's that crashed the planes in the WTC ... and wasn't Bin Laden a Saudi too ? Oh Siht ! We still get oil from them ... my bad.

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Another day, another liberal arrested for committing hate crimes.

This time, right in NYC.

A 65 year old Hispanic man (Puerto Rican and Colombian) was arrested and charged with hate crimes after being caught writing “KKK” and “Mexican Go Home” on Penn Station walls. Keep it coming!

http://nypost.com/2017/03/06/man-arre ... wastikas-in-penn-station/


The article makes no mention of his political leanings but does mention him griping about Mexicans taking jobs. Are you really that ignorant that you think just because he's Puerto Rican and Colombian he can't possibly be racist against Mexicans?? ....You are aware those are all different countries right?

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Another day, another liberal arrested for committing hate crimes.

This time, right in NYC.

A 65 year old Hispanic man (Puerto Rican and Colombian) was arrested and charged with hate crimes after being caught writing “KKK” and “Mexican Go Home” on Penn Station walls. Keep it coming!

http://nypost.com/2017/03/06/man-arre ... wastikas-in-penn-station/

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Re-post ... I posted it in the 'wrong' thread and was deleted ... Hoping this is the correct one!

It's crazy with this increased military spending - Our so called 'enemies' spend very little and can at times outwit and outplay us. Military spending needs to be halved, with a focus on technology and less 'foot-soldiers', but rather small specialist soldiers then simple grunts.

I don't see ISIS or any so called threats with a massive naval armada as ours or the endless supply of tanks and planes (not to mention all the surplus crap we have). Neither China or Russia would ever invade the US; why would they? How in the hell would they be able to have an occupying force within the US? We wouldn't be able to in their countries ... All this increase will do is go to fill the pockets of government contractors and raise the incomes of senior military personal who as 'yes' men to Trump's (or any president in power) requests

The increase is stupid and 40% should be removed from the military budget and passed onto the health, manufacturing and education of this country, that's if we truly want to remain viable and competitive.

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I'm betting many of the secret service agents, senior military staff and others (his party colleagues) are all of the mind-set, that I'll provide safety and respect to the title holder of President, but not the person!

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