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Tuesday 12/13/2016 CSPAN now 8:30 pm

President elect Trump Thank You Rally in Wisconsin.

Nice to see the President elect standing in front of decorated Christmas trees and a red and white Merry Christmas USA on front of the podium.

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Tuesday 12/13/2016 CSPAN now 8:30 pm

President elect Trump Thank You Rally in Wisconsin.

Nice to see the President elect standing in front of decorated Christmas trees and a red and white Merry Christmas USA on front of the podium.

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Hey... it took Obama 4 years (2012) to earn The Time Person of the Year designation... this is hugggge that Trump did it as President Elect.

Can't wait for Trump to win the Noble Peace Prize in his first 6 months in office... just like Obama did.


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Huuuuuge? Do you mean "bigly". This of couse was uncovered to actually be " big league" but that won't get reported.

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Hey my Bro, it's payback time - the last 8 years of Republican obstructionism against Obama, the Fox News attacks, Trumps questioning his citizenship?

We'll spend the next 4 years returning the favor, it'll be fun!

Ahahahahahahahah

I was actually relieved, cause I don't have to hear your whining in the years to come! You get to hear ours!

And it's gonna be good - because Trump is an easy parody

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Now you supporters can get in line with the Donald as one of Putin's little bitches. You should be very proud that you helped a foreign government gain a foothold in the White House. While you were being distracted by Muslims and Mexicans an Oligarchy was being arranged. Suckers.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/n ... fb&utm_term=.8dd12750f5b9


Alt-left in meltdown over Trump open to a better relationship with Russia. Alt-left then goes ballistic when he plays hardball with the other commies in China. Go figure.



The only thing the repubs in Congress prevented was Obama spening us into Oblivion. This so called recovery has been a game of smoke and mirrors. Now that the fed will start to raise rates you will feel some pain. But that of course can be blamed on Trump.

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I guess BHO was special like that...
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Hey... it took Obama 4 years (2012) to earn The Time Person of the Year designation... this is hugggge that Trump did it as President Elect.

Can't wait for Trump to win the Noble Peace Prize in his first 6 months in office... just like Obama did.


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Obama was named Time Person of the Year in 2008 (as president elect). He named person of the year again in 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year

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Hey... it took Obama 4 years (2012) to earn The Time Person of the Year designation... this is hugggge that Trump did it as President Elect.

Can't wait for Trump to win the Noble Peace Prize in his first 6 months in office... just like Obama did.


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Obama was named Time Person of the Year in 2008 (as president elect). He named person of the year again in 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year

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now...let's see what congress will allow.


The Trump plan has been revised to look more like the GOP House plan. The expensing part wasn't in earlier version of the Trump plan. From what I heard from Larry Kudlow (who is a Trump advisor), the plan is to now include it.

I think Trump will get most of what he wants via the House. The Senate though will be an issue. The GOP has a bare majority and has some GOP members that aren't that conservative.

There will be some major compromises during the reconciliation process between the House and the Senate.

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Small business confidence took a big jump since the election. I think a big part of that jump is due to what is being proposed as part of the tax plan (though not finalized yet... so the actual plan may or may not have the items listed below):

1. Replacing depreciation with simple expensing. This is yuge for any business that has to make a big capital investment, in particular start-ups. Instead of a complicated set of rules where you depreciate your capital investment over 3, 5, 27.5 years, etc... you take it all at once against your revenues. If you have a loss, you carry it over for the next fiscal year.

Obama's administration got congress to pass accelerated depreciation as part of the stimulus, which has helped boost manufacturing. Looks like Trump & Co. may take this a lot further.

2. LLCs, S corps, LLPs, and other pass through corporate entities will be taxed at the lower (proposed) corporate rate of 15% instead at the higher personal income tax rates. So someone who runs an LLC, after paying themselves a salary in tune with their level of responsibility, can pass through the rest of the profit at a lower corporate rate. This is a big tax cut for the hundreds and thousands of pass through corporations out there.
now...let's see what congress will allow.

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Small business confidence took a big jump since the election. I think a big part of that jump is due to what is being proposed as part of the tax plan (though not finalized yet... so the actual plan may or may not have the items listed below):

1. Replacing depreciation with simple expensing. This is yuge for any business that has to make a big capital investment, in particular start-ups. Instead of a complicated set of rules where you depreciate your capital investment over 3, 5, 27.5 years, etc... you take it all at once against your revenues. If you have a loss, you carry it over for the next fiscal year.

Obama's administration got congress to pass accelerated depreciation as part of the stimulus, which has helped boost manufacturing. Looks like Trump & Co. may take this a lot further.

2. LLCs, S corps, LLPs, and other pass through corporate entities will be taxed at the lower (proposed) corporate rate of 15% instead at the higher personal income tax rates. So someone who runs an LLC, after paying themselves a salary in tune with their level of responsibility, can pass through the rest of the profit at a lower corporate rate. This is a big tax cut for the hundreds and thousands of pass through corporations out there.


My fishmonger said that this was the reason he was voting for Trump.

Not Russian 'interference"... (lol)


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Small business confidence took a big jump since the election. I think a big part of that jump is due to what is being proposed as part of the tax plan (though not finalized yet... so the actual plan may or may not have the items listed below):

1. Replacing depreciation with simple expensing. This is yuge for any business that has to make a big capital investment, in particular start-ups. Instead of a complicated set of rules where you depreciate your capital investment over 3, 5, 27.5 years, etc... you take it all at once against your revenues. If you have a loss, you carry it over for the next fiscal year.

Obama's administration got congress to pass accelerated depreciation as part of the stimulus, which has helped boost manufacturing. Looks like Trump & Co. may take this a lot further.

2. LLCs, S corps, LLPs, and other pass through corporate entities will be taxed at the lower (proposed) corporate rate of 15% instead at the higher personal income tax rates. So someone who runs an LLC, after paying themselves a salary in tune with their level of responsibility, can pass through the rest of the profit at a lower corporate rate. This is a big tax cut for the hundreds and thousands of pass through corporations out there.

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This one is really weird: Kanye West is meeting with Trump in Trump Tower. Without any restraints.

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Hey... it took Obama 4 years (2012) to earn The Time Person of the Year designation... this is hugggge that Trump did it as President Elect.

Can't wait for Trump to win the Noble Peace Prize in his first 6 months in office... just like Obama did.


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Let's blame Russia, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein, fake stories, alt-right, and everyone except the candidate who ran and lost. Let's add Obama to the list, we can say he did not campaign hard enough for Hillary.


“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.

"If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job,” Obama said. “Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way — or my way. That’s OK. You fight through it. You work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10 ... mp-election-rigged-229933
I think Hillary was done in by a variety of factors, especially the FBI. I have no qualms with Russia, a sovereign please, using its influence to suit it's goals but I do have a big issue with the behavior of the fbi


Exactly! Had Lynch not interfered with Comey from the start Hillary would be in jail and Biden would probably be the President elect right now.

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Published December 12, 2016 FoxNews

"President-elect Donald Trump's victories in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were certified Monday, further affirming his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton in last month's presidential election."


What a waste of time and money.

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The recount cost $9 million and resulted in 131 votes previously uncounted for Trump

That is $68,000 per new Trump vote discovered.
well, she was entitled to ask for a recount. But honestly, if she is so concerned, she should not have run as she probably took crucial votes away from hillary

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Published December 12, 2016 FoxNews

"President-elect Donald Trump's victories in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were certified Monday, further affirming his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton in last month's presidential election."


What a waste of time and money.

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The recount cost $9 million and resulted in 131 votes previously uncounted for Trump

That is $68,000 per new Trump vote discovered.

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Published December 12, 2016 FoxNews

"President-elect Donald Trump's victories in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania were certified Monday, further affirming his win over Democrat Hillary Clinton in last month's presidential election."


What a waste of time and money.

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Let's blame Russia, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein, fake stories, alt-right, and everyone except the candidate who ran and lost. Let's add Obama to the list, we can say he did not campaign hard enough for Hillary.


“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.

"If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job,” Obama said. “Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way — or my way. That’s OK. You fight through it. You work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10 ... mp-election-rigged-229933
I think Hillary was done in by a variety of factors, especially the FBI. I have no qualms with Russia, a sovereign please, using its influence to suit it's goals but I do have a big issue with the behavior of the fbi

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So Trump won because his voters had parking? Interesting idea.

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Let's blame Russia, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein, fake stories, alt-right, and everyone except the candidate who ran and lost. Let's add Obama to the list, we can say he did not campaign hard enough for Hillary.


The main reason Hillary lost is because THERE'S NO PARKING

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Let's blame Russia, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein, fake stories, alt-right, and everyone except the candidate who ran and lost. Let's add Obama to the list, we can say he did not campaign hard enough for Hillary.


“There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America’s elections, in part because they’re so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved,” Obama said.

"If whenever things are going badly for you and you lose, you start blaming somebody else, then you don’t have what it takes to be in this job,” Obama said. “Because there are a lot of times when things don’t go our way — or my way. That’s OK. You fight through it. You work through it. You try to accomplish your goals.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10 ... mp-election-rigged-229933

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Let's blame Russia, WikiLeaks, Jill Stein, fake stories, alt-right, and everyone except the candidate who ran and lost. Let's add Obama to the list, we can say he did not campaign hard enough for Hillary.

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so what if russia hacked/manipulated the us election. how many elections in other countries has the us manipulated?


Obama went after Bibi in Israel-and lost, that's the most recent.

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The Wisconsin recount has been finished. Trump gained 162 votes.

What a tremendous waste of time and money.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefin ... mp-wins-wisconsin-recount

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so what if russia hacked/manipulated the us election. how many elections in other countries has the us manipulated?

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I don't know if Russia hacked the emails, but if Russia did, then I want to say, "Thank You." The emails clearly shows Hillary had two policies and her inner circle was planning to attack the Catholic Church. Trump, the 3 timed married man won the Catholic vote. You don't interfere with our religion.


Pope Francis deliberately cautioned us to be wary of fear-mongering, even just three days before the election. He claimed it weakens us. Are you calling the Pope a liar? (I only say that in response to your recurring statement about not calling Jesus a liar, whatever that means.)

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Clinton lost because 5 million Democratic voters did not come out as they did for Obama. The DNC failed their constituents. It's time to dump them


If you’re going to waste your time looking for a rational explanation, I wouldn’t start with the party whose candidate was one of the most uniquely qualified professionals in the history of the Presidency.

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Meanwhile, an effort is afoot to influence the electors. The recounts did not work, so on to "fake news" and "Russian hacking".

http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/t ... oters-Demand-10791105.php

Next we will hear - invalidate the election!







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I don't know if Russia hacked the emails, but if Russia did, then I want to say, "Thank You." The emails clearly shows Hillary had two policies and her inner circle was planning to attack the Catholic Church. Trump, the 3 timed married man won the Catholic vote. You don't interfere with our religion.


There are some very stupid people out there spreading some nice fauxrage about how terrible it is that Russia "influenced the election."

Which begs the question, how? Even if Russia hacked the emails, they only exposed how utterly corrupt Hillary, the DNC, and the mass media were. Russia could expose videos showing Hillary killing people in her office and the Democrat response would be to investigate Russia.


The problem is the Russians also hacked the GOP. But we'll never see how utterly corrupt they are since there was no reason for the Russians to leak those emails. Fauxrage? Go have a slice of pizza...in DC. The CIA is not one of those shitty fake news sites frequently used to prove a point in this thread.


No, Russia didn't hack the RNC. That was some fake news put out by the NYT.

There was absolutely no evidence they were hacked, the RNC denied it, and the FBI disagreed with the CIA's conclusion as to Russia's motivations.

Like I said, Russia could expose videos showing Hillary killing people in her office, and people like you - desperate to deflect from indefensible acts - would be screaming about why we need to immediately investigate Russia.

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I don't know if Russia hacked the emails, but if Russia did, then I want to say, "Thank You." The emails clearly shows Hillary had two policies and her inner circle was planning to attack the Catholic Church. Trump, the 3 timed married man won the Catholic vote. You don't interfere with our religion.


Comrade, Russia did NOT hack email. Russian Federation thank you for your support! Trump best president ever!

Here is reward. 1 hour of beautiful Soviet music!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcP7TRY178

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