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Those pins were not produced by the campaign, your disingenuous ass.

As for your previous stupid post, Van Vorst did not take up arms against the Union to maintain slavery.

People like you should be ashamed of yourselves, drawing equivalence between traitorous rebels that killed more Americans than the Nazis with other figures that have something else going for them besides being Confederate generals and leaders.

Scum like you deserve the scorn you get here.

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The Bill Clinton and Al Gore Conferate flag pin. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/th ... 5/?utm_term=.e2b799b2f0cd

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Bye bye Bannon!

Also nazi-collaborators-name-be-erased-broadway-sidewalk

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Forget the subway symbols, we must destroy the graves of Confederate generals. Dump their evil remains into the ocean.

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Well you have to be stupid and obviously "sightless" not to see the hidden symbols glorifying grand old antebellum days of the South.

Can only imagine the emotional angst triggered by looking at this despicable image.... sorry MTA, they have to go!

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You mean like Donald Trump or Richard Nixon??

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Cornelius Van Vorst had slaves.


And so did the Patriarch Abraham. Timing is everything, something racists can't seem to understand. There's a big difference between owning slaves when that was the normal thing, and seceding from the US and fighting for the right to hold people in bondage.


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So this is where these antifa/communist/radicals are headed??? Delegitimize the founding principles of this country, ignoring the positive legitimate and legal progress with laws like The Emancipation Proclamation and The 19th Amendment.

Beside their #1 choice, total Anarchy, the only way to install the political correctness orthodoxy in a free society is by installing totalitarian and fascist regimes like Venezuela/Cuba or theocracies like Iran or Indonesia that can control free speech and thought.

Outside of leftist street violence and physical intimidation of people with an opposite views.... what do they intend to put in place of the Constitution or our Bill of Rights that they abhor that they claim is founded on white supremacy???

At this point, they can't use the word govern.... because they only want to live in a Utopia via "benevolent" dictatorship... and we know how they ended up with Stalin and Mao.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/08/1 ... -presidents-slave-owners/

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Cornelius Van Vorst had slaves. He also gave the rest of the farm the the village of Van Vorst which later merged with the City of Jersey City for a park. Do we rename the park? If we do I am sure his heirs which still exists might want the land back. Some Van Vorst family members were around in the 1950s.

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Please... you have been desperate to be relevant for the past two weeks. We already explained to you that the flags on display are not confederate battle flags but all the state flags of the Union.

Because YOU are offended, the equitable solution is to take down all the state flags and leave the empty flag poles. That will also placate anyone else that takes offense to any other symbolism reflected in the other state flags.

Then can we all be happy?




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What - no Trump Flag waving?

Even on Fox News, normally a redoubt of Trump support, with the anchor Guy Benson saying that Mr. Trump “lost me” when he insisted that some “very fine people” participated in the white supremacist rally.

“They were chanting things like, ‘Jews will not replace us,’” Mr. Benson said. “There’s nothing good about that.”


It should be noted that the ONLY reason that the confederate flag is emblazoned on the Mississippi state flag is due to racism (History of Mississippi state flag). They didn't start with a flag containing a flag that represents secession.

The reality is, white supremacy in all its forms needs to be wiped out. There is no place for racism.

Did we leave up the statues of Saddam Hussein in Iraq because of "history"?
Did we leave up statues of King George when declared independence because of "history"?
Do the Germans have statues of Hitler up because of "history"?

Paying homage with a public statue to people that fought for the "right" to own other human beings is unacceptable. The place for such things would be museums notating the dark history and their repugnant cause.


"Did the USA lay down when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor", Yawn...

I think you need to exam all the state flags and emblems because there are many instances of dare I say "cultural appropriation"... you can start with Arizona and New Mexico.

LET THE PURGE START IN NEW JERSEY! http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/201 ... ey.html#incart_most-read_

It really seems like the US is experiencing it's own version the Communist Chinese Cultural Revolution and you have to wonder about the extremes people will go to cleanse all vestiges of white supremacy, real or imagined.








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The British flag honors the caste system that is the monarchy! Take down the Hawaiian flag! We shouldn't honor a system where you have to bow or curtsy to a monarch!

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Consider what, the British Union Jack in the corner? Most of us have gotten over the War of 1812.


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Hmmmm. I'm fairly certain Hawaii did not exist as a state in 1812. Let me check on that and Cat back at ya.

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Please... you have been desperate to be relevant for the past two weeks. We already explained to you that the flags on display are not confederate battle flags but all the state flags of the Union.

Because YOU are offended, the equitable solution is to take down all the state flags and leave the empty flag poles. That will also placate anyone else that takes offense to any other symbolism reflected in the other state flags.

Then can we all be happy?




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What - no Trump Flag waving?

Even on Fox News, normally a redoubt of Trump support, with the anchor Guy Benson saying that Mr. Trump “lost me” when he insisted that some “very fine people” participated in the white supremacist rally.

“They were chanting things like, ‘Jews will not replace us,’” Mr. Benson said. “There’s nothing good about that.”


It should be noted that the ONLY reason that the confederate flag is emblazoned on the Mississippi state flag is due to racism (History of Mississippi state flag). They didn't start with a flag containing a flag that represents secession.

The reality is, white supremacy in all its forms needs to be wiped out. There is no place for racism.

Did we leave up the statues of Saddam Hussein in Iraq because of "history"?
Did we leave up statues of King George when declared independence because of "history"?
Do the Germans have statues of Hitler up because of "history"?

Paying homage with a public statue to people that fought for the "right" to own other human beings is unacceptable. The place for such things would be museums notating the dark history and their repugnant cause.

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Consider what, the British Union Jack in the corner? Most of us have gotten over the War of 1812.


I get very uncomfortable around talk of the War of 1812, why are you infringing on my safe space post 1812? Webmaster, please delete these triggering remarks about Hawaii.

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Consider what, the British Union Jack in the corner? Most of us have gotten over the War of 1812.

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The 50 state flags have been at the south end of the park for ages. If you are sensitive about Mississippi's flag, then also consider Hawaii's....
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Please... you have been desperate to be relevant for the past two weeks. We already explained to you that the flags on display are not confederate battle flags but all the state flags of the Union.

Because YOU are offended, the equitable solution is to take down all the state flags and leave the empty flag poles. That will also placate anyone else that takes offense to any other symbolism reflected in the other state flags.

Then can we all be happy?




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What - no Trump Flag waving?

Even on Fox News, normally a redoubt of Trump support, with the anchor Guy Benson saying that Mr. Trump “lost me” when he insisted that some “very fine people” participated in the white supremacist rally.

“They were chanting things like, ‘Jews will not replace us,’” Mr. Benson said. “There’s nothing good about that.”

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What - no Trump Flag waving?

Even on Fox News, normally a redoubt of Trump support, with the anchor Guy Benson saying that Mr. Trump “lost me” when he insisted that some “very fine people” participated in the white supremacist rally.

“They were chanting things like, ‘Jews will not replace us,’” Mr. Benson said. “There’s nothing good about that.”

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Seems like a good time to change out these confederate flags for ones with just the offending states name.


This may be off topic and it might be quite boring, but can we talk about ferry service to Brooklyn or maybe someone can post an article about how NYC emerged as the economic powerhouse?

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Seems like a good time to change out these confederate flags for ones with just the offending states name.

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I think flying that flag is perfect, it informs everyone who might not have already known what a racist, backwards place Ole Miss is.


Can the add a sign saying something to the effect that the "The views expressed are not those..."

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Inside every liberal is a dictator screaming to get out.

Please.

Conservatives frequently attempt to censor expressions they find offensive. They tried to shut down a big Mapplethorpe exhibit, defund the NEA over a handful of artist grants they didn't like, were livid over the Last Temptation of Christ (and not because of Harvey Keitel's accent). Giuliani tried to pull all the funding from the Brooklyn Museum basically because he was personally outraged over the display of one artwork by Chris Ofili.

Conservatives routinely try to ban books, especially in schools; e.g. they took aim at the Harry Potter series not too long ago. Conservatives are twice as likely to think it's a good idea to ban books and restrict movies, TV and video games than progressives. (http://www.theharrispoll.com/health-and-life/Censorship_2015.html)

Needless to say, conservatives routinely want to shut down any discussion of evolution, the cornerstone of modern biology, in actual science classes in public schools. And let's not get started on books about Islam.

Get your head out of the sand. The desire for censorship is not exclusive to one particular ideology. Not by a long shot.


So sorry to disappoint you, but I taught in Catholic schools and students were taught real science including modern biology.

The Catholic Church, to its credit, has accepted evolution. Many conservatives, including ones who are on school boards, do not.

I.e. citing one exception does not disprove the rule.


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Yep, that's what I am talking about. And lots of people don't stop at the "not my tax dollars" approach. Especially when it involves Islam or Muslims....

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Inside every liberal is a dictator screaming to get out.

Please.

Conservatives frequently attempt to censor expressions they find offensive. They tried to shut down a big Mapplethorpe exhibit, defund the NEA over a handful of artist grants they didn't like, were livid over the Last Temptation of Christ (and not because of Harvey Keitel's accent). Giuliani tried to pull all the funding from the Brooklyn Museum basically because he was personally outraged over the display of one artwork by Chris Ofili.

Conservatives routinely try to ban books, especially in schools; e.g. they took aim at the Harry Potter series not too long ago. Conservatives are twice as likely to think it's a good idea to ban books and restrict movies, TV and video games than progressives. (http://www.theharrispoll.com/health-and-life/Censorship_2015.html)

Needless to say, conservatives routinely want to shut down any discussion of evolution, the cornerstone of modern biology, in actual science classes in public schools. And let's not get started on books about Islam.

Get your head out of the sand. The desire for censorship is not exclusive to one particular ideology. Not by a long shot.


So sorry to disappoint you, but I taught in Catholic schools and students were taught real science including modern biology. However, since you brought up art, some things are art and some are not. The person who put the crucifix in a jar of urine also came to JC Museum and boasted that the paintings he was showing came from his sperm. That person who I refuse to name is not creating art, he is attacking a religion and my tax dollars should not support it.

But returning to my original statement, the State of NJ flag is ugly. Let's fix that first.

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I think flying that flag is perfect, it informs everyone who might not have already known what a racist, backwards place Ole Miss is.

If it ain't broke...don't fix it.

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I think flying that flag is perfect, it informs everyone who might not have already known what a racist, backwards place Ole Miss is.

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...but the Flag of Mississippi should be replaced with some other version - also a few other states are questionable.


What??? Are you serious? Another version? I hate to tell you, but every state only has one state flag. You open it up so you can change one flag, then I guess you can change them all. Like that damn Hawaii flag. It has the British Union Jack on it. For realz???? Them damn British with their red coats!!!!

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Inside every Trump supporter is a wannabe plantation owner screaming to get out.

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Inside every liberal is a dictator screaming to get out.

Please.

Conservatives frequently attempt to censor expressions they find offensive. They tried to shut down a big Mapplethorpe exhibit, defund the NEA over a handful of artist grants they didn't like, were livid over the Last Temptation of Christ (and not because of Harvey Keitel's accent). Giuliani tried to pull all the funding from the Brooklyn Museum basically because he was personally outraged over the display of one artwork by Chris Ofili.

Conservatives routinely try to ban books, especially in schools; e.g. they took aim at the Harry Potter series not too long ago. Conservatives are twice as likely to think it's a good idea to ban books and restrict movies, TV and video games than progressives. (http://www.theharrispoll.com/health-and-life/Censorship_2015.html)

Needless to say, conservatives routinely want to shut down any discussion of evolution, the cornerstone of modern biology, in actual science classes in public schools. And let's not get started on books about Islam.

Get your head out of the sand. The desire for censorship is not exclusive to one particular ideology. Not by a long shot.

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Confederate Flag added to Liberty State Park. All 50 state flags were just added - but the Flag of Mississippi should be replaced with some other version - also a few other states are questionable. This National Park after all is in Jersey City - which is one of the most diverse cities on earth - so we don't need this redneck flag.

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I'm not a fan of the Confederate flag, but I'm even more so not a fan of censorship. Replacing the official flag of Mississippi with some alternate version is a gross example of censorship of reality. You should strive to change the world you live in by making real efforts, not by closing your eyes, cupping your hands over your ears and screaming "la la la I can't see you!"

Grow up.


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