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Grumbling in Jersey City over parking spots lost to Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on August 02, 2016 at 4:02 PM, updated August 02, 2016 at 8:38 PM

JERSEY CITY — Bike enthusiasts are happy about the recent Citi Bike Jersey City expansion, but not everyone is thrilled about losing parking spaces for their cars.

A group of residents who live on and around Astor Place managed to delay installation of a Citi Bike station on nearby Park Street over parking concerns, while residents who live around the Danforth Avenue light rail stop are pressing the city to relocate the bike station installed there.

"They took the parking from us," said Regina Johnson Green, of Princeton Avenue

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ke_stations_leads_to.html

When oh when will the city learn to engage local residents BEFORE placing the stations? Whether you agree with the protestors or not, this is a problem that keeps happening.

Oh, I don't know... maybe because the city *knows* that all of the old timers will throw their hands up in the air and complain about loss of parking, or interlopers. I totally agree that you normally would get the best results when you engage the populace in the decision making process, but our old timers (as a group) have shown themselves to be an anachronistic bunch opposed to progress, newcomers, and change. Also, I don't think it is entirely unreasonable for government to sometimes make decisions on its own that will annoy or impact its citizens. The deployment of CitiBike racks is for the public good (perhaps somewhat controversially to some, since it is a joint private/public push) and it is not something drastic like an imminent domain land grab.

I get what you are saying, but not really the case in this issue.

Example: the rack on Kensington Ave about a 1 block from Lincoln Park that got placed without resident engagement. A location that not only took up 2-3 parking spaces, but was also off the main route and hard to find/not visible. There were several alternate good locations for that rack proposed by residents, the target users of the program - like the entrance to Lincoln Park right on West Side Ave.Imagine a bike share at a park entrance AND where commuters could easily access it/find it. BRILLIANT!!

i hear you about ill considered spots. i was looking for the bikes near the park on manhattan avenue up in the heights the other day. i did not see any so i walked to pershing field. later in the day as i was walking along kennedy, i spotted the bikes on a side street (1-2 blocks away). they were literally hidden.

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Grumbling in Jersey City over parking spots lost to Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on August 02, 2016 at 4:02 PM, updated August 02, 2016 at 8:38 PM

JERSEY CITY — Bike enthusiasts are happy about the recent Citi Bike Jersey City expansion, but not everyone is thrilled about losing parking spaces for their cars.

A group of residents who live on and around Astor Place managed to delay installation of a Citi Bike station on nearby Park Street over parking concerns, while residents who live around the Danforth Avenue light rail stop are pressing the city to relocate the bike station installed there.

"They took the parking from us," said Regina Johnson Green, of Princeton Avenue

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ke_stations_leads_to.html

When oh when will the city learn to engage local residents BEFORE placing the stations? Whether you agree with the protestors or not, this is a problem that keeps happening.

Oh, I don't know... maybe because the city *knows* that all of the old timers will throw their hands up in the air and complain about loss of parking, or interlopers. I totally agree that you normally would get the best results when you engage the populace in the decision making process, but our old timers (as a group) have shown themselves to be an anachronistic bunch opposed to progress, newcomers, and change. Also, I don't think it is entirely unreasonable for government to sometimes make decisions on its own that will annoy or impact its citizens. The deployment of CitiBike racks is for the public good (perhaps somewhat controversially to some, since it is a joint private/public push) and it is not something drastic like an imminent domain land grab.

I get what you are saying, but not really the case in this issue.

Example: the rack on Kensington Ave about a 1 block from Lincoln Park that got placed without resident engagement. A location that not only took up 2-3 parking spaces, but was also off the main route and hard to find/not visible. There were several alternate good locations for that rack proposed by residents, the target users of the program - like the entrance to Lincoln Park right on West Side Ave.Imagine a bike share at a park entrance AND where commuters could easily access it/find it. BRILLIANT!!

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Grumbling in Jersey City over parking spots lost to Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on August 02, 2016 at 4:02 PM, updated August 02, 2016 at 8:38 PM

JERSEY CITY — Bike enthusiasts are happy about the recent Citi Bike Jersey City expansion, but not everyone is thrilled about losing parking spaces for their cars.

A group of residents who live on and around Astor Place managed to delay installation of a Citi Bike station on nearby Park Street over parking concerns, while residents who live around the Danforth Avenue light rail stop are pressing the city to relocate the bike station installed there.

"They took the parking from us," said Regina Johnson Green, of Princeton Avenue

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ke_stations_leads_to.html

When oh when will the city learn to engage local residents BEFORE placing the stations? Whether you agree with the protestors or not, this is a problem that keeps happening.

Oh, I don't know... maybe because the city *knows* that all of the old timers will throw their hands up in the air and complain about loss of parking, or interlopers. I totally agree that you normally would get the best results when you engage the populace in the decision making process, but our old timers (as a group) have shown themselves to be an anachronistic bunch opposed to progress, newcomers, and change. Also, I don't think it is entirely unreasonable for government to sometimes make decisions on its own that will annoy or impact its citizens. The deployment of CitiBike racks is for the public good (perhaps somewhat controversially to some, since it is a joint private/public push) and it is not something drastic like an imminent domain land grab.

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Grumbling in Jersey City over parking spots lost to Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on August 02, 2016 at 4:02 PM, updated August 02, 2016 at 8:38 PM

JERSEY CITY — Bike enthusiasts are happy about the recent Citi Bike Jersey City expansion, but not everyone is thrilled about losing parking spaces for their cars.

A group of residents who live on and around Astor Place managed to delay installation of a Citi Bike station on nearby Park Street over parking concerns, while residents who live around the Danforth Avenue light rail stop are pressing the city to relocate the bike station installed there.

"They took the parking from us," said Regina Johnson Green, of Princeton Avenue

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ke_stations_leads_to.html

When oh when will the city learn to engage local residents BEFORE placing the stations? Whether you agree with the protestors or not, this is a problem that keeps happening.

Stringer wrote:

Grumbling in Jersey City over parking spots lost to Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
Email the author | Follow on Twitter
on August 02, 2016 at 4:02 PM, updated August 02, 2016 at 8:38 PM

JERSEY CITY — Bike enthusiasts are happy about the recent Citi Bike Jersey City expansion, but not everyone is thrilled about losing parking spaces for their cars.

A group of residents who live on and around Astor Place managed to delay installation of a Citi Bike station on nearby Park Street over parking concerns, while residents who live around the Danforth Avenue light rail stop are pressing the city to relocate the bike station installed there.

"They took the parking from us," said Regina Johnson Green, of Princeton Avenue

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ke_stations_leads_to.html

heights wrote:
I would prefer the station placed on the sidewalk as opposed to being along the curb on the asphalt /street. Take the one on Ogden Ave. off the corner of Congress St. in the Heights, docking and undocking the bike, fiddling with the credit card, and then pulling the bike out of it's docking station will put the potential rider in harms way of the oncoming traffic. The rider will be bent over jutting themselves outward with their back blindly facing into the street risking the danger of getting clipped by a moving vehicle, SUV, van, or box truck. Those side view mirrors alone can cause havoc.

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Nice how DTJC once again gets all the Citi Bike Racks.

Imagine if Jersey City had an administration that cared about the whole city.

To the contrary, when CitiBike first began talking to the City about implementing here, they only wanted to put stations downtown with a few outside of the downtown area. Several neighborhoods were allotted zero stations. Anyone who was there during the negotiations can tell you that the Mayor himself said they would not launch CitiBike unless every Ward was allotted stations.

Regarding the new stations coming online, as you can see there are new stations going in every Ward again. However, the process for choosing these was a combination of crowdsourcing and seeing where people voted for new stations, as well as where the most activity is. Downtown has the most activity (as well as the most people per square foot) so they are getting more new stations.

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Nice how DTJC once again gets all the Citi Bike Racks.

Imagine if Jersey City had an administration that cared about the whole city.

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Nice how DTJC once again gets all the Citi Bike Racks.

Imagine if Jersey City had an administration that cared about the whole city.

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Jersey City unveils locations of 15 new Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on July 20, 2016 at 12:54 PM, updated July 20, 2016 at 1:32 PM

Mary Ford loves Citi Bike Jersey City, but barely uses the bike-share station closest to her home.

Ford, 57, who lives on Garfield Avenue, would have to walk to Bayside Park to grab one of the Citi Bike bicycles stationed there and use it to get to the Downtown financial services company where she works.

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _citi_bike_locations.html

The map is incorrect: it shows an existing station at the Marin Blvd. light rail station. There is no such CitiBike station. Are there other inaccuracies?

The lack of a station at Marin light rail is a real head scratcher - Between 225 Grand, Gulls Cove, 18 Park and the Madox there are 1,200 residential units within a block of that spot and no CitiBike station anywhere nearby. Layer in the new development going in on Van Vorst along the St. Peter's Prep football field, Gull's Cove phase 2 and the high rise that is nearing completion south of 18 Park and this is a very dense, underserved area. Should have been included in the first round and somehow missed the expansion as well? And yet the photo-op site in front of City Hall (statistically the least used site downtown) remains?

Stringer wrote:

Jersey City unveils locations of 15 new Citi Bike stations

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal
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on July 20, 2016 at 12:54 PM, updated July 20, 2016 at 1:32 PM

Mary Ford loves Citi Bike Jersey City, but barely uses the bike-share station closest to her home.

Ford, 57, who lives on Garfield Avenue, would have to walk to Bayside Park to grab one of the Citi Bike bicycles stationed there and use it to get to the Downtown financial services company where she works.

Read more:  http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _citi_bike_locations.html

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Seriously fellow JC residents please do not waste $145 each and EVERY year (and bound to go up too!) for a clunky Citi Bike (which you can only utilize for 45 minutes before incurring and additional $2.50 surcharge each additional 30 minutes) when you can restriction free, effortless zip around town and beyond going EXACTLY where you want on a stylish brand new City Glide scooter! For a mere fraction of the price these fun fantastic scooters will at the very minimum will half your travel time vs walking! From personal experience let me tell you that these extremely light weight/portable scooters are undoubtedly the best way to get around town. Get to and from the PATH station in no time and then easily fold up the scooter for the train ride to/from work. Great for kids over 8 too these stylish scooters have a solid low weight aluminum frame (10 lbs) telescoping handle bars, an easy folding mechanism, fast over sized 210 mm high speed wheels and an over sized foot break. If interested 'd be happy to give you a test ride so you can see for yourself how simple & fun they are to ride so feel free to contact me via post in the classified ad section below the forum posts for additional information!

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Seriously fellow JC residents please do not waste $145 each and EVERY year (and bound to go up too!) for a clunky Citi Bike (which you can only utilize for 45 minutes before incurring and additional $2.50 surcharge each additional 30 minutes) when you can restriction free, effortless zip around town and beyond going EXACTLY where you want on a stylish brand new City Glide scooter! For a mere fraction of the price these fun fantastic scooters will at the very minimum will half your travel time vs walking! From personal experience let me tell you that these extremely light weight/portable scooters are undoubtedly the best way to get around town. Get to and from the PATH station in no time and then easily fold up the scooter for the train ride to/from work. Great for kids over 8 too these stylish scooters have a solid low weight aluminum frame (10 lbs) telescoping handle bars, an easy folding mechanism, fast over sized 210 mm high speed wheels and an over sized foot break. If interested 'd be happy to give you a test ride so you can see for yourself how simple & fun they are to ride so feel free to contact me via post in the classified ad section below the forum posts for additional information!

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Seriously fellow JC residents please do not waste $145 each and EVERY year (and bound to go up too!) for a clunky Citi Bike (which you can only utilize for 45 minutes before incurring and additional $2.50 surcharge each additional 30 minutes) when you can effortless zip around town and beyond going EXACTLY where you want on a stylish brand new City Glide scooter! For a mere fraction of the price these fun fantastic scooters will at the very minimum will half your travel time vs walking! From personal experience let me tell you that these extremely light weight/portable scooters are undoubtedly the best way to get around town. Get to and from the PATH station in no time and then easily fold up the scooter for the train ride to/from work. Great for kids over 8 too these stylish scooters have a solid low weight aluminum frame (10 lbs) telescoping handle bars, an easy folding mechanism, fast over sized 210 mm high speed wheels and an over sized foot break. If interested 'd be happy to give you a test ride so you can see for yourself how simple & fun they are to ride so feel free to contact me via post in the classified ad section below the forum posts for additional information!

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heights wrote:
Do you write for a major publication terrencemcd ? I am familiar with Bicycle Times and Momentum Magazine.

I'm the City Hall reporter for the Jersey Journal

heights wrote:
Do you write for a major publication terrencemcd ? I am familiar with Bicycle Times and Momentum Magazine.

elsquid wrote:
I'm assuming you won't mind if I put this on Bike JC's Facebook too?

terrencemcd wrote:
Hi, JC List, I'm writing a story about Citi Bike and I'm looking for anyone who uses Citi Bike and lives outside of Downtown — even if you're a casual user. Please call me 201-273-0492 or email me tmcdonald@jjournal.com. Thanks!