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Re: PATH gets United CEO fired?
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$2.75 PATH train to Newark. Transfer at Newark Penn Station and pay $8.25 for a local NJ Transit train to go ONE STOP to the AirTrain station. Followed by a cumbersome transfer to the slow-moving AirTrain to the terminal buildings.

How could you say there is no problem with the above scenario? It's not a fun trip to make with luggage. My least favorite part of the transfer is waiting for a NJ Transit train that actually stops at the airport. A bus from Newark Penn could very well be cheaper and faster.

Extending PATH one more stop to the airport would be a major time saver and convenience to both airline employees and travelers, especially for anyone traveling from lower Manhattan or along the PATH lines.

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Not sure what the problem with NJ Transit o AirTrain. I have used it with no problem a number of times.

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Not sure what the problem with NJ Transit o AirTrain. I have used it with no problem a number of times.

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The plan is to have it open to Newark so the neighborhood can use it.

In a perfect world I think the better idea would have been to somehow extend the light rail to EWR. They already have a connection to NY and Newark Penn St with the existing connections (just need to open it up to the neighborhood).



Technically speaking, the Port Authority has not confirmed that the station will have access to the neighborhood. The whole project still needs to go through the design phase. There has been a lot of debate regarding that issue and it is by no means resolved one way or the other.

The Newark Light Rail was supposed to connect to the Airtport as well as into Elizabeth. The original plan name was the Newark-Elizabeth Light Rail. For now the Elizabeth remains much like the Bergen in the HBLR: a misnomer.

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Also its a very important investment in revitalizing the city of Newark. Even though it remains unclear whether the airport station will initially be open to street (rather than just the monorail and NJTransit station), the big cost is the link, not opening it up to Newark. Once its built, lobbying to open it up to the city becomes much easier and it will serve as a catalyst to developing another area of Newark.


The plan is to have it open to Newark so the neighborhood can use it.

In a perfect world I think the better idea would have been to somehow extend the light rail to EWR. They already have a connection to NY and Newark Penn St with the existing connections (just need to open it up to the neighborhood).

While I agree it's not the perfect use of money for the PATH, given the state of investing in actual infrastructure, I'll take whatever I can get by way of increased service.

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Other areas?! LOL!!!


The second the PATH extension to Newark is killed, the money will go to the World Trade Center, LaGurdia Airport, new PABT or if it does stay in Jersey, the skyway bridge!

No, the $2 billion will not be reinvested in PATH If the EWR extension is killed. Let's take the extension and then gun for capacity improvements so the PA will have fast, reliable service between Manhattan and Newark Airport.

The AirTrain people move has reached the end of its useful life. This is an excellent opportunity to improve the link between PATH and the new AirTrain.


Also its a very important investment in revitalizing the city of Newark. Even though it remains unclear whether the airport station will initially be open to street (rather than just the monorail and NJTransit station), the big cost is the link, not opening it up to Newark. Once its built, lobbying to open it up to the city becomes much easier and it will serve as a catalyst to developing another area of Newark.

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The second the PATH extension to Newark is killed, the money will go to the World Trade Center, LaGurdia Airport, new PABT or if it does stay in Jersey, the skyway bridge!

No, the $2 billion will not be reinvested in PATH If the EWR extension is killed. Let's take the extension and then gun for capacity improvements so the PA will have fast, reliable service between Manhattan and Newark Airport.

The AirTrain people move has reached the end of its useful life. This is an excellent opportunity to improve the link between PATH and the new AirTrain.
they need to d something about getting to ewr (as well as lga and jfk). I say keep the extension or have the Newark subway extended right to the airport so that

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The second the PATH extension to Newark is killed, the money will go to the World Trade Center, LaGurdia Airport, new PABT or if it does stay in Jersey, the skyway bridge!

No, the $2 billion will not be reinvested in PATH If the EWR extension is killed. Let's take the extension and then gun for capacity improvements so the PA will have fast, reliable service between Manhattan and Newark Airport.

The AirTrain people move has reached the end of its useful life. This is an excellent opportunity to improve the link between PATH and the new AirTrain.

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The article states that "the airline was being investigated over alleged favors done for the then-head of the Port Authority, David Samson, as United was seeking public investment in the Newark Airport."

The GWB situation was unrelated.

And United received the "public investment" that they wanted in the form of a (so far) $2 billion commitment from the Port Authority to extend the PATH to Newark Airport. An extension that is completely ridiculous and unnecessary, and one that Christie championed.

If in fact it turns out that these United execs resigned in part because the PA illegally did them a favor by committing almost $2 billion of taxpayer money to this money pit, is there any chance the extension gets halted?


Do you enjoy transferring to NJ Transit in Newark? the trip to EWR would be lightning fast if the PATH extension existed.

btw - just an FYI...most of the cost of maintaining & operating the PATH system is covered by leases & fees at the shipping terminals.


I don't but it's not on the top 10 of PATH's biggest problems. It's all about opportunity cost. The $$ would be much better spent in other area.

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The article states that "the airline was being investigated over alleged favors done for the then-head of the Port Authority, David Samson, as United was seeking public investment in the Newark Airport."

The GWB situation was unrelated.

And United received the "public investment" that they wanted in the form of a (so far) $2 billion commitment from the Port Authority to extend the PATH to Newark Airport. An extension that is completely ridiculous and unnecessary, and one that Christie championed.

If in fact it turns out that these United execs resigned in part because the PA illegally did them a favor by committing almost $2 billion of taxpayer money to this money pit, is there any chance the extension gets halted?


Do you enjoy transferring to NJ Transit in Newark? the trip to EWR would be lightning fast if the PATH extension existed.

btw - just an FYI...most of the cost of maintaining & operating the PATH system is covered by leases & fees at the shipping terminals.

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Related or not the reporter felt compelled to mention it in the story... what got him canned was creating the special money losing route from Newark to SC because the PA Chairman did a lot of business down there... should have just given him a free turboprop ride to get to all those important meetings :)

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The article states that "the airline was being investigated over alleged favors done for the then-head of the Port Authority, David Samson, as United was seeking public investment in the Newark Airport."

The GWB situation was unrelated.

And United received the "public investment" that they wanted in the form of a (so far) $2 billion commitment from the Port Authority to extend the PATH to Newark Airport. An extension that is completely ridiculous and unnecessary, and one that Christie championed.

If in fact it turns out that these United execs resigned in part because the PA illegally did them a favor by committing almost $2 billion of taxpayer money to this money pit, is there any chance the extension gets halted?


Don't be retarded. The Port Authority has been talking about extending PATH since before Corzine was in office. Its part of the long term plan to connect the airport directly with another one of their valuable assets, the World Trade Center. That isn't to say Christie didn't leverage his vote to get United lobbyist money to pour into his campaign, but that extension has been part of the long term capital plans for at least a decade.

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The article states that "the airline was being investigated over alleged favors done for the then-head of the Port Authority, David Samson, as United was seeking public investment in the Newark Airport."

The GWB situation was unrelated.

And United received the "public investment" that they wanted in the form of a (so far) $2 billion commitment from the Port Authority to extend the PATH to Newark Airport. An extension that is completely ridiculous and unnecessary, and one that Christie championed.

If in fact it turns out that these United execs resigned in part because the PA illegally did them a favor by committing almost $2 billion of taxpayer money to this money pit, is there any chance the extension gets halted?

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A very odd description of the GWB... without mentioning it by name. But they got Christie's name right :)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/united- ... eral-probe-212519027.html

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