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State is walking away from potential development at Liberty State Park, DEP commissioner says

By Patrick Villanova | The Jersey Journal
on May 12, 2016 at 6:10 PM, updated May 12, 2016 at 7:04 PM

The white flag has been raised and the battle for Liberty State Park's future appears to be over. 

The head of the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection said today that he is no longer looking into ways to bring development to the park, adding that state officials never had concrete plans for the park privatization in the first place. 

"The bottom line is we made the decision that we're going to do nothing in the park," DEP Commissioner Bob Martin said in response to a question posed by state Sen. Sandra Cunningham during a Senate Budget and Appropriations hearing.

"We're not going to spend any time, any more money."

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The far-southern end is filled with picnicking families every weekend. That crowd easily surpasses 200.


On crowded days there's easiiy more than 200 cars parked in the lots at the southern end. How many people is that, 300, 400, more?

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Seriously? There are thousands in the park on nice days. Bike around sometime.

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The article says 200 people showed up for the demonstrations. I think that is the most people I have ever seen in the park outside of major holidays, such as the 4th of July. Even on weekends, you would be hard pressed a group of 200 people, outside of tourists making their way to the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island.


You should go more often. On weekends when the weather is nice, there are far more people than that in the park. Check the playground and the picnic areas. Check the kite-flying fields and the 9/11 memorial. You'll count more than 200 in no time.



The far-southern end is filled with picnicking families every weekend. That crowd easily surpasses 200.

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The article says 200 people showed up for the demonstrations. I think that is the most people I have ever seen in the park outside of major holidays, such as the 4th of July. Even on weekends, you would be hard pressed a group of 200 people, outside of tourists making their way to the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island.


You should go more often. On weekends when the weather is nice, there are far more people than that in the park. Check the playground and the picnic areas. Check the kite-flying fields and the 9/11 memorial. You'll count more than 200 in no time.

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The article says 200 people showed up for the demonstrations. I think that is the most people I have ever seen in the park outside of major holidays, such as the 4th of July. Even on weekends, you would be hard pressed a group of 200 people, outside of tourists making their way to the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island.

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What Christie will be getting in the mail from Liberty State Park advocates

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
February 15, 2016 at 7:24 PM

JERSEY CITY -- Frigid temperatures and a light snow didn't stop more than 200 people from gathering at Liberty State Park to direct a message at Gov. Chris Christie: keep the park free and green.

Sign-toting protesters met at the park's Flag Plaza for a group picture, which they plan to send directly to Christie to show how important open space is to residents in an urban area. 

In November, the state Department of Environmental Protection released a list of possible development projects, which include a hotel, amusement park, and amphitheater being built in "underutilized or neglected" areas of the park. Reports have indicated the park operates on a $3.5 million budget but generates $1.5 million in revenue. 

Sam Pesin, the president of the Friends of Liberty State Park advocacy group, said that parks are "not supposed to make money."

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Liberty State Park activist Pesin rips Christie: ‘Keep your hands off this park!’

Close to 100 protesters gathered for a photo shoot at Liberty State Park to denounce privatization plans for the park, with Sam Pesin leading the charge by shouting “Governor Christie: keep your hands off this park!”

Greg Remaud, the NY/NJ baykeeper,  believes that these protests would help push for public hearings so the Christie Administration can really hear the concerns of the community.

“What we are really waiting is public hearings, every time in Liberty State Park if there’s a big change, there’s always a public hearing, where people can come out and people can say ‘oh I like a hotel or I don’t like a hotel’,” he told Hudson County View.

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In the fight between environmentalists and $$$$, the latter almost always wins.

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We didn't stay for the concert, but there was a pretty good turnout for the ride. Well done! ($5.00 for a cup of cider though?)



But it had extra fillings like a stick of cinnamon

Nice turnout otherwise for a real cause.


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We didn't stay for the concert, but there was a pretty good turnout for the ride. Well done! ($5.00 for a cup of cider though?)

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Also do not forget that 10:30 A.M. today is the 10:30 adjusted for Daylight Savings! Did you remember to change your clocks?

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Today is the day! And this will be a great opportunity to enjoy the Park, the fall foliage, and the always terrific views of the Harbor the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. No matter how you feel about the proposed economic exploitation of this public space, its going to be a great day to visit our park. I cut and pasted this from the facebook page: Registration opens at 10:30 a.m. for the solidarity bike ride starting at noon and ending around 12:45.
Cyclists will bike two laps around the park, approximately 10K (6 miles) (or optional one 5K lap).
The route is the scenic "Liberty Walk" waterfront walkway and Freedom Way, past areas threatened with privatization.
Cyclists asked to be at least 10 years old. Helmets are strongly encouraged, although NJ law does not require helmets for those over 17.

Then Mayor Steven Fulop and NJ Senator Sandra Cunningham will join Sam Pesin, son of LSP Founder Morris Pesin and President of the Friends of Liberty State Park, will give brief remarks about our fight.

At around 1:00, we?ll ROCK AGAINST PRIVATIZATION with an eclectic lineup of local bands curated by Dancing Tony/(The) Rock-It Docket.

Wear your costume! Face painting! Food trucks! Hot apple cider! Amazing professional kite flying display at ?South Field? behind the Terminal! Yoga stretching before and after the ride (no mats)! Photo booth!

WHEN: Sunday, November 1st, 10:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.

WHERE: Historic CRRNJ Train Terminal Concourse

GPS: 1 Audrey Zapp Drive, Jersey City, NJ 07305 (east end of cobblestone road)

BRING: Family, friends, and everyone you know who cares about our urban state park. Bike, helmet, bike lock.

SCHEDULE
10:30 a.m. - Registration & yoga warm-up begins
Noon - 12:45 - Bike ride around the park
12:55 Brief remarks about the battle
1:00 The Milwaukees - @milwaukees
2:00 Karyn Kuhl Band - karynkuhl.com
3:00 DEVI - www.facebook.com/devirock
4:00 Sensational Country Blues Wonders - @SCBluesWonders

VENDORS
The Green Radish (vegetarian)
Cider Fusion (hot apple cider)

TRANSPORTATION
RIDE YOUR BIKE!
HBLR/SHUTTLE: A shuttle is available at the LSP Light Rail Station staring at 12:15, departing approximately every half hour. The last shuttle departs from the venue at 4:00.
CAR: Free parking in ferry tours lot, just say you're attending this event.
FERRY: http://www.nywaterway.com/PaulusHook-WTCRoute.aspx#weekend
UBER: Sign up with code 9zwbz for a free ride (up to $15).

Huge thanks to our supporters Bike JC, Grove Street Bicycles, and the American Kitefliers Association.

Stay informed! Get involved!
Friends of Liberty State Park: www.folsp.org
Twitter: @LibertyParkNJ, https://twitter.com/LibertyParkNJ
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/friendsoflibertystatepark
Instagram: https://instagram.com/friendsoflibertystatepark/
Email list: click on Subscribe at www.folsp.org
Volunteers & Media: Sam: 201-341-7895 or text 201-341-7900 pesinliberty@earthlink.net
For more information about this major crossroads battle for LSP, visit:
FOLSP: http://www.folsp.org/preservation/meadowlands_act.html

#SaveLSP #LibertyStatePark

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As soon as Christie found out about Kelly lying, he fired her. He couldn't summarily dismiss anyone on the PA payroll, although he could (and did) encourage them to resign.

And I won't rehash the whole traffic jam in this thread, but there still, millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of emails and texts, not a thing that comes within a mile of Christie lying or misleading the public.

Now compare that to 30,000 deleted government owned emails and a bald faced lie to the families of the dead in Benghazi and the American people-which has been proved in a couple emails that missed getting redacted-to protect Obama just before an election.

See you Sunday at the bike ride?

I would have been in for Sunday, but I'll be headed to DC for the DC United v. RBNY playoff game.

It truly is a great dissatisfaction for me that my former Friday drink spot is gone... I do miss chatting with everyone.

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As soon as Christie found out about Kelly lying, he fired her. He couldn't summarily dismiss anyone on the PA payroll, although he could (and did) encourage them to resign.

And I won't rehash the whole traffic jam in this thread, but there still, millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of emails and texts, not a thing that comes within a mile of Christie lying or misleading the public.

Now compare that to 30,000 deleted government owned emails and a bald faced lie to the families of the dead in Benghazi and the American people-which has been proved in a couple emails that missed getting redacted-to protect Obama just before an election.

See you Sunday at the bike ride?

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A small Smorgasburg style food fair would be nice, with a smaller indoor version in the winter.

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First, Christie fired everyone in Trenton instantly when he found out.

You know that this isn?t remotely close to being true (Timeline).

Let?s see?
Wildstein resigned (that?s not a firing) in December, 2013
Baroni resigned (that?s not a firing)
Kelly is fired over a month after Wildstein resigns (That?s more instant than instant coffee!)
Bill Stepien was never fired.
Samson was never fired.

Where are the ?instant firings??!

Since the investigation began in October, 2013, yes, the investigation lead to the uncovering of facts which then lead to numerous departures.

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As the NYNJPA staffers were found to have involvement they were juiced too.

Really? Samson was fired? I must have missed when that occurred!

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Whizzy and Whineys investigation had nothing to do with it. And we heard months ago from the Feds that this is going nowhere, at least as far as Governor Christie is involved.

Nothing to do with it except for the fact that if there was no investigation into the event, there would not have been firings, resignings and the truth about what actually occurred come out...

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At least Whiney has had to, very grudgingly, admit she's got nothing on Christie.

Did he want something on Christie? Sure. But nobody on the planet is stupid enough to think he was so completely oblivious to the matter. The buck stops with him. Why can?t he take responsibility for his position and putting a culture and climate in place that would make this an acceptable action (assuming that he knew nothing)?

The party of personal responsibility my ass?

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But it'll be curious to see what could be on board for LSP. There really isn't a 'family', mid priced place to eat. It's either high end or the two hot dog carts, one near the playground and the other by the Parks Building. They could put it inside the RR Terminal Building without disturbing open space, for example.

On this, I agree. I?m hopeful that this was put in place for mid-sized development. Converting some old buildings into some sort of food service location would be nice.

Heck, even some sort of mall style dining area with some quick food might be a solid option.

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The weather report is 'mostly cloudy with showers'. Is it a rain or shine event?


The forecast is now cloudy in the low sixties, let's ride!

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The weather report is 'mostly cloudy with showers'. Is it a rain or shine event?

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'Bike Ride and Bands' festival planned to oppose Liberty State Park development

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
October 28, 2015 at 1:05 PM

JERSEY CITY -- The Friends of Liberty State Park will host its Bike Ride and Band festival this weekend to oppose potential privatization in the park. 

Registration for the bike ride on Sunday will begin at 10:30 a.m. at the Historic Train Terminal Concourse inside the park. The ride will begin at noon. Mayor Steve Fulop and state Sen. Sandra B. Cunningham are both expected to speak at the event just before 1 p.m.

After a ride around the park, attendees will hear live music from The Milwaukees, Karyn Kuhl Band, DEVI and the Sensational County Blues Wonders.

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First, Christie fired everyone in Trenton instantly when he found out. As the NYNJPA staffers were found to have involvement they were juiced too. Whizzy and Whineys investigation had nothing to do with it. And we heard months ago from the Feds that this is going nowhere, at least as far as Governor Christie is involved.

At least Whiney has had to, very grudgingly, admit she's got nothing on Christie.

But it'll be curious to see what could be on board for LSP. There really isn't a 'family', mid priced place to eat. It's either high end or the two hot dog carts, one near the playground and the other by the Parks Building. They could put it inside the RR Terminal Building without disturbing open space, for example.

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I'm fine with them releasing the draft, but the state hasn't developed any plans to implement anything at this point. The firm hired would just be offering suggestions as to what would be appropriate. I don't think a 500 foot tall Ferris wheel or something similar is going to be there.

And Whiney, when are we getting the results of your Christie witch hunt that has cost millions? Or are you holding the results (which will clear him) until after the first couple of primaries for political reasons?

I thought the results were withheld due to a request by those involved in the Federal probe. However, it's not wasted millions. Corruption was found and the obvious perpetrators were forced out and could possibly face bigger problems. Sure, if it was actually a traffic study and they continued to press it would be a waste. However, Samson has likely cost the residents of NJ billions. I'm fine with spending millions to get him locked up.

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I'm fine with them releasing the draft, but the state hasn't developed any plans to implement anything at this point. The firm hired would just be offering suggestions as to what would be appropriate. I don't think a 500 foot tall Ferris wheel or something similar is going to be there.

And Whiney, when are we getting the results of your Christie witch hunt that has cost millions? Or are you holding the results (which will clear him) until after the first couple of primaries for political reasons?

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Senators want 'secret' DEP report, plan hearing on Liberty State Park's future

By Patrick Villanova | The Jersey Journal The Jersey Journal 
October 02, 2015 at  2:51 PM

A pair of high-ranking Democrats in the state Senate are calling on the Department of Environmental Protection to release its plans for potential development in Liberty State Park. 

Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg, D-Teaneck, and Environment Chairman Bob Smith, D-Piscataway, announced the senate Environment and Energy Committee will hold a hearing on the controversial issue in the coming weeks.

Weinberg and Smith are pushing the DEP to release a report detailing possible revenue-generating ventures for the state park on the Jersey City waterfront, and have also requested DEP Commission Bob Martin to attend. 

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Perhaps the Jersey Journal should mention the votes. The seven sponsors, led by Prieto of Hudson County, were all Democrats.

The State Senators voted-all 21 yes votes were by Democrats, all 12 no votes were by Republicans.

The State Representatives voted 42 in favor, 25 against. All but one yes votes were by Democrats, and all but one no votes were by Republicans.

Carry on.

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Liberty State Park bill signed by Christie has park enthusiasts concerned

By Ben Shapiro | The Jersey Journal The Jersey Journal 
July 07, 2015 at  6:49 PM

JERSEY CITY — Gov. Chris Christie has Liberty State Park advocates concerned after he signed into law yesterday a bill that keeps the park's jurisdiction under the newly formed Meadowland's Regional Commission.

Friends of the park fear this will lead the way for private development at the country's most visited state park.

"It is outrageous that Gov. Christie signed a bill that was to supposed to protect Liberty State Park but instead opens it up to private development," said Jeff Tittel, director of the New Jersey Sierra Club, in a statement. "In a shameful legislative maneuver, a bill that was to fix the problems in an earlier bill is turned upside down and actually makes things worse."

The original bill that Tittel was referring to was proposed by State Sen. Stephen Sweeney, and called for the removal of Liberty State Park from the Commission's authority.

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