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Every evening I see people with their off-leash dogs in the pet-free zones of Hamilton Park. As a dog owner, I just don't understand this. There are two dog runs. And if you still insist on having your dog off-leash, there are areas that aren't designated pet-free. Now two of the pet-free signs have been uprooted. I have no idea who did this. I'm just wondering why we can't have a couple of pet-free zones where people can sit and enjoy the park and not have to worry about sitting in dog pee.
Posted on: 2011/3/9 17:54
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I saw this tonight as well and I am appalled by this selfish act. Parkman, it might be of value to refer this to law enforcement, since the city could get $$$$ by sending someone to the park to fine people who don't follow the rules. I would tremendously value this as a taxpayer, if it replenishes city coffers for a good reason for once. If people have an issue with the pet free zoning they can petition the community for a change. The individual must belong to the "Me-Me generation".
Posted on: 2011/3/9 18:26
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I walk my dog to the dog park every morning and evening and hardly ever see off leash dogs, must be my timing. The 3-4 times I saw dogs in the pet free zone I said something along the lines of "Careful, other people will get mad and yell at you." All except 1 guy went to the pet area.
As far as ticketing goes, call the cops but I wouldn't expect much. They don't ticket for people running stop signs around here they're not gonna get out of their cars and walk in the park to ticket anyone. Maybe when the weather gets nicer. OF course on the other hand the more people call on anything the more chance they may do something about it.
Posted on: 2011/3/9 20:07
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I see folks with their dogs off leash pretty late at night - 9-10pm. Not sure it matters at that point... there are no kids and maybe a total of 10 people present.
I have been in the park plenty of times where I think some children and even a few of the adults should be on leashes.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 9:23
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It's great that you behave as a responsible dog owner. It sucks that there are so many other irresponsible dog owners that thumb their noses at the rest of the neighborhood.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 11:06
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does their poop leave with them? if not, then it matters.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 11:41
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These pricks can't even do it in the dog permitted lawns along 8th, no, they have to have it all so the dormant grass is destroyed by spring and all that will be there is dog crap just like before. It sounds like the dog scofflaws took their game plan from the Taliban: lay low for a little while after the new regime is in, then go back to your old tricks and even vandalize the signs.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 11:58
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First of all calling people pricks is extremely politically incorrect and should not be tolerated. Second, did you ever consider the possibility that the poor animal had a medical issue and could not hold it until he arrived at the "dogs are allowed to shit here area?" Maybe if this irresponsible canine were given the opportunity of a proper education he would have been able to read the signs prohibiting his offensive behavior. I suggest that if you can't find anything to do other than "sit in dog pee" bring a plastic bag to put between your buttocks and the lawn. Then when you decide to do something else pick up some dog shit with the bag if it bothers you. WhaLah problem solved.
Calling the police wouldn't be a practical solution as they are hesitant to write a ticket to an overburdened taxpayer who pays their salary. In dog parlance it would be biting the hand that feeds. Not advisable. Everybody should have these problems. There are kids going to bed hungry tonight and some people have nothing better to do than whine about a dog acting like a dog. Gotta love it.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 12:59
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right, so it has to go in the pet-free zone, rather than, oh, anywhere on the sidewalk that surrounds the entire park?! Quote:
of course. because when jerks don't follow the rules, it's up to everybody else to modify their own behavior. Quote:
translation: there will always be something worse going on in the world, so don't bother making small improvements to your community. Quote:
no, we don't.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 13:34
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Carpetbaggertil718, there is just so much wrong with your post.
1. If your dog has a "medical issue," walk him AROUND the pet-free zone on to the non-pet free zone on a leash. 2. I'm sorry that you don't enjoy the park. A lot of people like to sit on the lawn and it would be nice to have it pee-free AND green. 3. Yes, there are lots of problems in the world. Personally, I can think about more than one problem at a time. I'm smart that way.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 14:05
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The rest of your post seems to be articulately addressed already, so I'll just respond to this one. Someone who deliberately takes their dog into a zone marked "Pet Free" and releases it from the leash has no consideration for law, courtesy, or the needs of anyone but themselves. Ipso facto, a prick. Jon Stewart's favored term for people of this type is "douchebag", but I feel this unfair to a hygiene tool that I hear has it's place.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 15:50
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Last Saturday afternoon I walked pass the "pet-free" zones on my way to White Star bar. I have lived in Hamilton Park since 1998 and I have to say that I never saw so many adults and children playing in the "pet-free" zones as I did this past Saturday. It was beautiful to behold. So many children were running around on the grass either kicking a soccer ball, playing catch with their parents, playing tag, etc. It was great to see the park being used for who it was intended (i.e., human beings) and not 100% as a dog run. I'd hate to think that these kids are playing in an area full of left behind dog piss and crap.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 16:05
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actually, it's voilà , in case the rest of your post wasn't making you appear ignorant enough.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 16:12
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Guess no one realized carpetbaggertil718 is playing with you.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 16:21
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he/she must feel like a winner.
Posted on: 2011/3/10 16:31
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Many years ago, before Jersey City was the utopia it is today, one of the more common sights were the empty cocaine vials that littered the sidewalks. One day, with some amusement, I watched an odd looking fellow and his hippie girlfriend collecting the empty vials. Just to satisfy my curiosity I approached them and asked what they were going to do with all the vials. They invited me into their home and showed me some of the artwork they created with the vials and other pieces of urban flotsam and jetsam. Fabulous pieces, a revolver made entirely of crack vials, a working clock with recovered shell casings they found during their scavenger hunts as the numerals. Unbelievable creativity right in the heart of the hood.
I challenge any of you artistic types to use this new "pet peeve" in such a novel way. Take this organic raw material and with your bare hands mold a sculpture that depicts the struggle between the comforts of man and the needs of the beast. Knead it carefully and pay careful attention contrast and texture as your vision becomes a true work of art. Good luck and no need to pay homage for the idea. Now go create
Posted on: 2011/3/10 20:02
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Webmaster, can we rid the message boards of trolls?
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Posted on: 2011/3/10 22:46
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It's threads like this, to improve "quality of life" baffle me. Why are people, particularly parents, picking stupid fights mid-winter with dog owners, when no-one else even cares to use the park?
If you had have asked me 10 years ago, I was a big supporter for an equal and free education for all. Parents use and abuse their influence in politics and within the community, based simply on the fact they have procreated and feel entitled to handouts. I support legislation that stops wasting tax dollars on those "I got shagged" handouts. Christie - swing that axe - you have my vote. Sack those teachers, and make those parent's pay for their own brats :) We can also have a conversation about whether there's bigger savings on Education or dog crap/leash enforcement.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 1:30
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There are cats, skunks, possums, squirrels, all sorts of birds including sparrows, pigeons, seagulls that leave their crap and piss in the park. Any reason why dog piss and crap is uniquely dangerous? And any reason to suppose that dog crap and piss is any more dangerous than, say, what you'd find on a public door handle? Look - I agree with the dog-free zones. Just tone down the rhetoric. Live and let live a little and be good neighbors. And no, I don't let my dog off leash in HP.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 1:54
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I have never trod in a squirrel turd on the pavement and had to laboriously clean it off my shoe.
Robin.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 8:31
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possum poop smells like lavender.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 10:27
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Not uniquely dangerous. Just much more disgusting. With your logic the next time I'm in the park and have to take a leak I'll just piss in the park. Better yet, I'll go piss in the dog run. I'm sure the dog owners in the dog run will be completely understanding with that. I mean piss is piss right?
Posted on: 2011/3/11 10:32
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If you want grass in summer, you can't have dogs tearing it up in winter. It was the year round wear and tear of being a de facto dog run that made the HP west section a dustbowl before the reno. Not to mention the fact that it's unrealistic to think people will change their habits of letting their dogs run just because the weather changes and other people DO want to use the park.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 10:36
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In my experiences since park re-opened. One resident blatantly lied to JCPD after my dog peed near pathway through "pet-free zone". He told the cop that my dog had pooped and that I hadn't clean it up. Several other residents, including HPNA members, lied to me and others and said dogs were not allowed anywhere on grass in the park. One local Realtor followed me around and also lied trying to tell me I was in a "pet-free zone" when I was not. Too many "concerned citizens" have bankrupted their authenticity. The cops don't care anymore because of those citizens blatant misrepresentation of the facts. Sorry, it's OUR park too.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 11:32
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I did see a man get out of his car and pee in the park the other day. I guess because he thought it was raining no one would notice. 
Posted on: 2011/3/11 11:37
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Vigilante - your vendetta against the HPNA shows no sign of abating.
Do you even know who is on the HPNA board now? The people you had your fueds with are mostly long gone. Robin.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 11:54
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I believe the topic of dog owners ignoring the pet free zones was raised during the final design phase of the park when the size of the dog runs were raised as an issue. Mostly the concern was that not making the dog runs large enough -- particularly because the dog run spaces were divided awkwardly making the run for large breeds equal in size to the small breed run -- would not result in an abatement of off leash dogs in the other areas of the park as intended.
It seems based on the above quarrels here, those concerns are being fully realized as dog owners continue to ignore the undersized dog runs.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 12:03
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Yes, do that. The dog run is constructed to be pissed on, the lawns & plantings are not. The lack of a human bathroom in such a heavily used park is a different sore topic.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 12:04
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The dog runs have nothing to do with it. There are certain dogs that can never go into a dog run no matter how large they are built.
Posted on: 2011/3/11 12:46
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and that is the neighborhood's problem because....why?
Posted on: 2011/3/11 12:54
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