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Re: Crime-ridden Camden, N.J., cuts police force nearly in half
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What the heck does Trenton Make? Besides bad laws that raise our taxes crazy like.

Are you sure?

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They make porkroll and thats good enough for me.

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What the heck does Trenton Make? Besides bad laws that raise our taxes crazy like.

Are you sure?

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wrong city. " trenton makes the world takes "

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And Maybe once JC gets back the Battleship NJ, we can put a wall around Camden and just desert it and make one big prison or something...

Think that 80's movie escape from NY. Where Manhattan was turned into a prison cause it turned into a sh*th*le.

Besides Campbell's soup, what else is in Camden. What's that phrase on the bridge? America Makes, Camden takes?

Or did I get it backwards?

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Actually I agree with FletchFletcher.... whoever that may be.

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UNIONS ARE KILLING THIS COUNTRY!!!!!

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"It's absolutely, physically impossible to cover the same amount of ground in the same amount of time with less people," said John Williamson, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union in Camden. "Response times will be slower."


PS: I love this comment. Imagine John Williamson had made it in 1980. Then in 1950. Then in 1900. Then in 1850 and 1776. Are you rolling around the floor laughing like I am?

P-R-O-G-R-E-S-S John. The Engish have a word for you - Luddite. Go look it up.

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Crime-ridden Camden, N.J., cuts police force nearly in half

By the CNN Wire Staff
January 18, 2011 -- Updated 2354 GMT (0754 HKT)
Budget crisis hits Camden police

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
police and firefighter union officials say the layoffs will most certainly have an impact.
........
"It's absolutely, physically impossible to cover the same amount of ground in the same amount of time with less people," said John Williamson, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union in Camden. "Response times will be slower."

One local business owner, David Brown, said he does not "understand how you can do more with less."
"I don't want to be a pessimist, but I can't be optimistic."
........


These statements, and similar ones from JCPD remind me of failure excuses in golf, pool, or any sport you can name.

My question would be: Are their managers giving them any incentives to succeed? And if not, shouldn't we be hiring better managers?

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/US/01/18/new.jersey.layoffs/

Crime-ridden Camden, N.J., cuts police force nearly in half

By the CNN Wire Staff
January 18, 2011 -- Updated 2354 GMT (0754 HKT)
Budget crisis hits Camden police

STORY HIGHLIGHTS
168 police officers and 67 firefighters are laid off in Camden, New Jersey
City's mayor said she couldn't get $8 million in budget concessions to save jobs
The mayor had been asking police and firefighters for concessions
They were asked to pay more for health care and accept salary freezes or reductions

(CNN) -- The mayor of crime-ridden Camden, New Jersey, has announced layoffs of nearly half of the city's police force and close to a third of its fire department.

One hundred sixty-eight police officers and 67 firefighters were laid off Tuesday, as officials struggle to close a $26.5 million budget gap through a series of belt-tightening measures, Mayor Dana Redd told reporters. The layoffs take effect immediately.

Redd said she was unable to secure the $8 million in budget concessions that she says she needed to save the jobs of up to 100 police officers and many of the city's firefighters.
The mayor -- who said she will continue negotiations with police and fire unions -- had been asking the workers to pay more for their health care, freeze or reduce their salaries and take furlough days.

The apparent impasse has left administrators of a city with the second-highest crime rate in the nation scrambling to figure out solutions to keep residents safe. Camden is second only to St. Louis, Missouri, in annual rankings of cities based on compilations of FBI crime statistics.

Some clerical officers were demoted and reassigned to the streets, the mayor said, pledging that the cuts would not affect public safety.

"We're still going to protect our residents," said Robert Corrales, spokesman for Redd. Public safety "will remain our top concern. We'll shift our resources to be more efficient with what we have."

But police and firefighter union officials say the layoffs will most certainly have an impact.

"It's absolutely, physically impossible to cover the same amount of ground in the same amount of time with less people," said John Williamson, president of the Fraternal Order of Police union in Camden. "Response times will be slower."

One local business owner, David Brown, said he does not "understand how you can do more with less."
"I don't want to be a pessimist, but I can't be optimistic."
Camden resident and sanitation worker Gloria Valentin said she is now fearful that the city does not have enough police protection to keep people safe.

"Today is a real sad day in the city of Camden," she said.

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