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The 5 and 10 near the State Theater was called Fischer and Beers I think. Woolworths was near the Bridge/ Path trains.
Barricini candy up the Square Liss's and Cara Carson's
I remember Murray's Toy Store at Neptune and Ocean Ave
Erk's Restaurant on 3rd Street (?) The Cup and Cone on Ocean
Ave Next to the Cameo-Bowl-O Bernie's, Brummer's and
Reilettes Ice Cream soda shops. Billan's records at the Square
The Magic Id on Newark Ave, Boulevard Pool, and Roller Rink on the Bayonne City Line, The Birthday Truck, The Red Feather
Circus at Roosevelt Stadium, and 4th of July's there too. and the Western on Newark Ave.

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Oops now I get it you were looking for information on Brook Valley Day Camp sponsored by the YMCA. Carry on.

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Living in Kinnelon now and can not find the YMCA site. Spent 6 summers there and would love to know where it was. I remember Ray the bus driver.....


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Hey I remember Ray the bus driver he used to drive us there and on the way he would stop at the bakery on 23 north. We would board the old gray fish bowl bus ID #B-30 I remember seeing him about 6 or 7 years later driving route #10 Bayonne Hudson Boulevard bus line. Cool times at Brook Valley Day Camp. I often think about that place. Do you remember councilors Cathy, Luke, and the Casey brothers, and also that mean camp leader Chong ?




Hey DZ1977 here are some links about the YMCA.I don’t know the status of the project ….654 Bergen Ave

Jersey City set to transform former YMCA; mayor's opponent calls it election-year gambit

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_set_to_transform_f.html

JC press release about the project (pdf):

http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/uploa ... MCA%20press%20release.pdf


Cool JC history link…(click return to A to Z)

http://www.njcu.edu/programs/jchistory/pages/y_pages/ymca.htm

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Living in Kinnelon now and can not find the YMCA site. Spent 6 summers there and would love to know where it was. I remember Ray the bus driver.....

Hey I remember Ray the bus driver he used to drive us there and on the way he would stop at the bakery on 23 north. We would board the old gray fish bowl bus ID #B-30 I remember seeing him about 6 or 7 years later driving route #10 Bayonne Hudson Boulevard bus line. Cool times at Brook Valley Day Camp. I often think about that place. Do you remember councilors Cathy, Luke, and the Casey brothers, and also that mean camp leader Chong ?

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Living in Kinnelon now and can not find the YMCA site. Spent 6 summers there and would love to know where it was. I remember Ray the bus driver.....

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Yeah the Canton was a beautiful restaurant.

I think I may have asked this before. Down in Marion/JSq we used to play a street game called skelsies. Do any JC old-timers remember that game?

We used to have big tournaments at the end of summer vacation. Brackets, ratings, seeds, rain dates the whole deal.

You would use your "bestest" flat top filled with wax. I think the winner got a Pink hi-bounce ball and bragging rights. (chicks always dug the skelsies champ)

There are a lot of people from different parts of the tri-state area and country on JCList. Did you have a similar game? NYer's called it sully.

www.streetplay.com/sully

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To this day, when I think of really good traditional Chinese Restaurants, I often think of the Canton.

I'm not sure places like that exist much anymore. They have been replaced by urban corner, or suburban strip mall establishments that pale in comparison.

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I remember those days, properties were selling for less than $10,000 each. I know someone who picked up a property for less than $500 (five hundred) dollars. Taxes were reasonable too.

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Can't get it to embed, but here is a cool old video of "The Village" area downtown 40 years ago:

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Yeah, that's a bit young. I was at 105 Ocean Ave. Neptune at one end, and Winfield at the other. Lived over a bar called "The Rainbow Tavern"

Most of that block is gang territory now, 105 is abandoned crack house. There is not much left of the childhood home you once cherished, the city has let most of Ocean ave rot. It is currently listed at 45k.

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Yeah, that's a bit young. I was at 105 Ocean Ave. Neptune at one end, and Winfield at the other. Lived over a bar called "The Rainbow Tavern"

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I agree! I don't have many, but love to see some pictures from my childhood home.

Where was it located? Ocean ave is nothing like it was, the city has pretty much destroyed it. It is most likely an abandoned building or an open lot. If you know the address I will take a picture and post it here.

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There's still a Mr. Softee in the Heights. Same guy who rode the truck in the 80's...but I'm not sure if that's old timer enough...

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Oh my God! I remember so many of these places, and things! Moved away from Jersey in 1976. Was born in Bayonne. Moved to Jersey City at 4 or so. Started school at Ezra L Nolan/PS 40. I lived on Ocean Ave, so I know the A&P, Sodano's Chicken Market, Greenville Bakery, Schuetz Bakery, Sandler's! Both sides of street! Got OUR sneakers and BLUE Gymsuits there too! Bayonne Pool every summer, Finest Grocery Store. The Freezer Fresh and Mister Softee Ice Cream Trucks, the guy who sold fresh hot bread loaves out of his car/station wagon! Shall I continue?!!! Oh my, the stories I have about growing up in Jersey City!

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I agree! I don't have many, but love to see some pictures from my childhood home.

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Oh my God! I remember so many of these places, and things! Moved away from Jersey in 1976. Was born in Bayonne. Moved to Jersey City at 4 or so. Started school at Ezra L Nolan/PS 40. I lived on Ocean Ave, so I know the A&P, Sodano's Chicken Market, Greenville Bakery, Schuetz Bakery, Sandler's! Both sides of street! Got OUR sneakers and BLUE Gymsuits there too! Bayonne Pool every summer, Finest Grocery Store. The Freezer Fresh and Mister Softee Ice Cream Trucks, the guy who sold fresh hot bread loaves out of his car/station wagon! Shall I continue?!!! Oh my, the stories I have about growing up in Jersey City!

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No one ever remembers Rafael Torres killing his wife and 7 of their kids in the apartment behind their store at 347 Palisade Ave in 1969. I could never figure out how he managed to do it in the middle of the afternoon since most of the kids were teenagers. Only one managed to get away.

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I still mourn the passing of Jule's and Pete Ilvento's on West Side Avenue. These were Italian restaurants out of another era. Red-checked tablecloths, booths made out of plywood, and not contaminated by any hints of daylight. You'd go in, have a nice simple meal, a bottle of wine, and even on your first visit felt at home.

There's nothing that compares. Rita and Joe's is great, but a little too classy.

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Also...

If you remember when Curries was nice place to live

The stink pot way staircase

The portable pool behind 71 Merritt Street and the day someone filled it with furniture

Hitting the trains.

The sneaker factory fire in Bayonne

You could pay your Curries Woods rent in the main office.

When white people still lived in Curries Woods and everyone got along

And the old people would sit out front on lawn chairs at night

When Marion projects closed down and they all came over to Curries Woods

When they still used the incinerators to burn garbage

When the mail boxes were in the building lobbies.

Trick or treating and trying to avoid the guys with socks filled with flour.

When lighteing struck the chimney at 5 Heckman Drive and 71 Merritt Street

Sam the German Shepard from Pamrapo Avenue and the fear he spread across Curries Woods.

Diane's Dress Shop on Old Bergen Road.

The Salvage Store

The Good Humor Man

The Pizza Truck

The laundry mat at 5 Heckman Drive

Country Village was off limits to black people

When every public school kid in Curries Woods went to PS 40 (Ezra L. Nolan)

Summer time swimming at P.S. 40

Hudson Cleaners on Ocean and Gates, the A&P across the street and the pizza parlor at the corner of Gates and Old Bergen road. And when you could get a slice of really good pizza for 25-Cents

Charcoal Treat

Bay Cinema and the time when they were showing Logan's Run and when they got to brief nude scene the projectionist covered the lens so we couldn't see the screen

The Skating Rink on the Boulevard

Ebony Club parties at St. Peter's Prep.

The Omicrons

The late summer night when the Bones came to Curries Woods looking for trouble in a Volkswagon Beetle and the car broke down on Heckman Drive near 5 Heckman.

Super Saver Grocery Store on Garfield Avenue

Sinclair Gas on Garfield Avenue

The Cottilion at the Church of the Incarnation.

The house on Summitt Avenue where Black Panther meetings were held.

Vote Robinson for Mayor Row A-5

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I also remember:

Ape Day at Lowe’s Theatre when they showed all five Planet of the Apes Movies back to back

The gruff old bus dispatcher at the Greenville Bus Co. depot on Merritt Street who would gas up the busses with a cigar smoldering in his mouth

Nino’s Used Cars at Claremont and Garfield

Cameo Theatre on Ocean near Cator

When ambulances were Cadillacs

The Central Railroad of New Jersey Ferry

Hudson County Police

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I remember the bus driver. I remember the B-1 bus. And if I am correct wasn't there a B-52 bus and a B-29? On the way home, we used to kneel in the back row seat of the bus looking out the rear window and when the bus driver would hit the bumps, we would bounce up. I also remember going to the camp and just before we got to the camp, we'd make a very tight right turn onto a narrow bridge over a set of railroad tracks. And, if I remember correctly, Thursday was the one overnight at Brook Valley.

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Brook Valley Day Camp

I remember Brook Valley Day Camp sponcered by the YMCA on Bergen Ave. Do you remember Ray the bus driver he drove the old grey B1 Hudson Blvd. fish bowl bus. There were the Casey brothers and Luke who were counselers, and Chong the screaming meanie director of the camp. The camp was located up Rt. 23 in Kinnelon out in Morris County. Ray used to pull into the little outdoor mall over by the bakery so us kids could get a snack from the "long" drive.

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This is some of what I remember...

The Bones...and they were not a mythical gang...I know people who were attacked by the bones.

Sandler’s on Ocean Avenue for converse sneakers, gym shorts for boys and the one piece blue gym suits for girls.

Sodano’s Live Poultry Shop on Ocean Avenue near Gates Avenue

Two Guys on Route 440

Great Eastern on 440 near the Roosevelt Drive-in

The Bookmobile

The Showmobile

The Greenville Avenue bus when they were Green

The Bergen Avenue bus when they were Orange

The Central Avenue Bus when they were Brown

The Blvd Bus when it was Gray

The Montgomery Avenue Bus when it was Maroon

The Red and Tan Bus Line

Bay Cinema at City Line Plaza

Bay Drugs at City Line Plaza

Bayonne Pool on the Blvd

Journal square when you had to catch the busses outside because the Path Center had not yet been built

Robert Hall on Route 440

King Lincoln Mercury at Seaview Avenue and the Blvd.

When the apartment buildings on Merritt Street were considered better than those on Heckman Drive

Chips Grocery Store at Heckman Drive and Old Bergen Road

The old Italian guy who would sell vegetables and fruit on his small flatbed truck

Zimp’s Kitchen

Milt's Liquors in the Lafayette Section

Gino’s Featuring Kentucky Fried Chicken

Whimpy

Johnson’s Barber Shop on Ege Avenue

Call Me G’s on Jackson Avenue

Casino in the Park

Shop Rite on 440 before it became a Rickle’s.

Lorsch 5th Avenue at Journal Sq. Trust Bldg

Sound Machine (Record Shop on the Blvd near the Square)

The Orange Store (Candy Store on Gates Avenue across the street from PS 40)

The 99-S Bus

Brook Valley Day Camp

Finast Grocery Store on Ocean Avenue across from Bayview Cemetery

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Brummers was located in the Junction area where Communipaw Avenue meets Grand Street...


Brummer's was great. My grandparents would take me. I'd usually get a root beer float, and a sundae was a special treat. The were also a candy store, some of which was homemade.

When I heard it was closing I went back for a last visit - bittersweet. A lovely place and great memories.

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Several memories. One maybe someone can remember:
I vaguely remember between Oakland Avenue and Cook Street where now is a huge parking lot...there was a gully, a bid deep crater. In it were several rows of army-style buildings in which Black Families lived. It was bulldozed and now a parking lot for over ....55 years? Was I hallucinating or was it really there?
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Other Memories, THE GOOD: Fisher Beer was the 5 & 10 next to the State Theater.
The huge vacant lot between Summit Ave and JFK (formerly HUDSON) Blvd. Only the library and one St. John's Apts. building was there, between them...it looked like Hiroshima after the blast for a few years in the early 1960's around the time Kennedy was shot.
ACME Super Market on Hoboken and Summit Aves. where the Hudson Bank drive-in now stands.

The Rosewood Malt Shop on Bergen Ave. near Vroom ST. had swastika tyles on the floor (obviously put there long before Hitler)

Bickford's on the Square and the McGinley Square Bus Station(where the tramps hung out inside who looked like out've the Great Depression).
Coward Shoes
Thorne's Women's where owned by a former Czech movie star prior to WW 2.

The Pix Theater Saturday Matinees which showed movies later put on CHILLER THEATER on t.v.
Other Memories: THE BAD:

The Jersey Journal use to print "A Negro" if someone arrested was Black. They'd put his name, the above , his age and address. They didn't do it for any other race. They continued to do it until I think Dr. King was killed(old Microfilms at the Jersey Ave. library will prove what I say).

Kids with "funny names" that weren't Irish or Italian were open-targets for bullies. Even in the Catholic Schools. When the first Black kid came to our Catholic school (I won't say the name to avoid embarassment-you'll know which one!) the other kids jumped on him like paranas. I don't recall what happened to him. His first name was Joseph and the last name started with a T.. That's all I'll share.

Other Meories: THE UGLY:

If you were suspected to be gay in Jersey City of the Old Days you had as much of a chance as a Hassidic Jew in 1940 Berlin. Now Jersey City was ranked #3 in the state for Gay Friendly.


The Jersey Journal use to print Sodomy arrests and "suspected homosexuals" arrested on suspicion, their names and addresses in the paper. Again, check the microfilms.
Neighborhoods had "color lines" usually enforced by some checker-shirted Archie Bunker who lived on the street who hoisted the Star Spangled Banner every morning on his porch). I was told once that a little kid I invited to the wading pool in my yard had to go away because "a neighbor complained I violated the color line" to my parents.
He was a dark-complexioned Hispanic*(*that made it even worse). ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jersey City, like any place in the country or the world, has its good memories and bad. These are part of our history. What is important is what we've become and we're a vibrant multi-cultured and welcoming city now. We are not a "little red neck town frozen in the 1950's" as some New Yorkers said about us back then.
I love Jersey City and am also a historian.
Final note, a foundation of one of the towering beams for the old trolley tressle to Hoboken is still under the State Highway ramp to the Holland Tunnel, know where it is?


What you wrote is interesting. There were several people on FB's "We Grew Up in Jersey City" web page trying to convince me that ethnic relations in the '40s & '50s were great. I didn't believe them especially after reading Helen Stapinski's book "Five Finger Discount" in which she wrote about the ethnic division in JC in the early '60s & prior to this time.

I had been trying to recall the name of the 5&10 store which was next to the State Theater. Fisher Beer was still at that location in the mid-'70s, wasn't it? I lived in JC from July of '74 to June of '75.


According to photos in the book, "Jersey City 1940-1960: The Dan McNulty Collection", a Fisher Beer store was located near the State Theater in the '50s. The store that I had seen which was near the State Theater in the mid '70s was most likely another store since a Fisher Beer store may no longer have existed at that location at that time.

This 1972 photo shows Kennedy Boulevard near Journal Square.

(State Theater, Rags to Riches, Joyce Leslie, Moriel’s, Lynns, Kitty Kelly & Danny Mack shoe stores) http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?656

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Where was the Woolworth store in Journal Square located? Was it near the State Theater? I remember going to a department store which was near the State Theater in the mid '70s. The store was probably Woolworth, Lynns or Moriel's.


Woolworth was near the old Hudson Tubes (PATH) transportation Hub before the new complex was completed in 1976. Woolworth was across from the Tube Bar and pizzeria.

Across the street from the State Theater was Liss Pharmacy which was as large as a department store complete with a lunch counter. Next to the Lowes Theater was J.M. Fields which is now the C.H. Martin.



Thanks, Shadrack! I'm not sure why but someone mistakenly told me that there was a Woolworth store near the State Theater. There was probably another department store near the State Theater which I may have visited. I remember Liss Pharmacy & J.M. Fields. I used to go to Liss Pharmacy for cold remedies. I went to J.M. Fields to shop for school clothes before the school year began when I was living in JC. I left the city in late June of '75.

It could be that a Wolworth store existed near the State Theater during an earlier time period than the '70s

This 1972 photo shows Kennedy Boulevard near Journal Square.
(State Theater, Rags to Riches, Joyce Leslie, Moriel’s, Lynns, Kitty Kelly & Danny Mack shoe stores) http://bus.nycsubway.org/perl/show?656


A Fisher Beer store existed near the State Theater in the '50s according to photos in the book "Jersey City 1940-1960: The Dan McNulty Collection". There was never a Woolworth store in that location according to the research that I've done. It seems that a Moriel's store, which can be seen in the photo on the web page listed above, may have taken the place of the Fisher Beer store in the '70s.

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I recall Simonetti/Sullivan was on Monticello a few doors down from Levy's, another sports store

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We have so much in common: I played football at PREP and we practices at OLD COLONY field right across the tracks from HS field.I played in the PREP/Dickinson Thanksgiving game for 3 years and attended with classmates/teammates for years later and we went to the Captain's Table for drinks after the game before we each went home for family Thanksgiving dinner. Cas Rakowski and the Jersey Journal wrote several sports articles about me when I played at PREP. The tux place on Monticello was run by cousins by marriage ( it was called ALLEGRO's). I worked summers at the JC Print in the Lafayette section (where I lived). My grandfather owned a bar and the Westinghouse guys from the day and night shift lunch used to come over for the big sandwiches and cheap booze and I'd have to run a shuttle car for pick up and drop back at the factory. Fond memories and I loved them then as much as I recall them now.

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and Del Monte Accordian School around the corner and up the stairs in the Stanley Theatre building. My grammar school even had an accordian band- all Del Monte students!
My rewared after a successful lesson was a dog and drink at Boulevard Drinks, next to Charles mens' shop which was across the alley from the Lowes Theatre which was right next to the JM Fields. That how old an old timer I am.

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If you're talking about the Hilltop Tavern it was in the block along the side of the JC armory off Montgomery. The veal parm came in a sizzling plate with the cheese still bubbling!The bar was guys only back then. There was a restaurant attached if you wanted to take a date for pizza.

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YOU HAVE A GOOD MEMORY.....AMATO'S HAD THE BEST SEAFOOD AROUND......YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PAPA J WITH THE LOUD VOICE..IT RAN IN THE FAMILY...

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