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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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I've really been feeling left out of this thread, having lived a relatively cart-free existence.

until last night, when I arrived home to find one right in front of my stoop, blocking the way to my front door, like a shiny red sentinel.

my very own cart!

I am now a real member of the community.

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i got a photo of one on 6th and brunswick last night ....full of junk

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My block got a Target one yesterday. To my knowledge, that was a first.

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My block got a Target one yesterday. To my knowledge, that was a first.


LOL!!! True.

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Some people are bold enough to keep their very own personal carts outside for all to see

This was on Marin:

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There is like 5 in the basement of Dixon Mills.

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i saw a guy pushing one on bergen ave around claremont a few days ago.

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I saw a Lowe's cart on 6th and Coles last week. How it managed to get all the way over here, I have no idea.

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hah that's the same one i caught last week, thought it was brunswick but it was in fact coles and 6th. at first i thought it was a bj's one but it was a red lowes one.

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I just saw one on county road westbound side under the freight train overpass. that's west of 1&9

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I e-mailed the property owner and they sent my e-mail to BJ's & Shop Rite. Shop Rite manager was very nice-he said they use a security cart system that covers the perimiter of the parking lot so the wheels will lock. They also send someone out every morining to retrieve & do a cart count every 2 weeks. (I guess that's why we don't see too many of thier carts)He said BJ's use to use the same system but they removed it. I sent a note to corporate to see what's going on. Let's see what will happen.

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From the Downtown Jersey City Watch mailing list:

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From: Downtown Jersey City Watch <downtownjcwatch@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Subject: Abandonement of BJ's Carts - Pls. call
To: Downtown Jersey City Watch <downtownjcwatch@gmail.com>
Cc: Steven Fulop <fulops@jcnj.org>, Althea Bernheim_JCNJ <ABernheim@jcnj.org>, Crystal <c.fonseca@jciaonline.org>, Captain Brian McDonough <policeeast@jcnj.org>, Mayor Jerramiah Healy <mayorhealy@jcnj.org>


Hello everyone. We will need everyone's help in calling. The Jersey City Incernator Authority have been great in getting these carts picked up when people call in. However, there are too many carts.

Though there is legislation against cart theft, most people feel that having a the Police arrest a person for this pales in comparison to drug dealing, disorderly groups, drinking with open containers, or fighting. The JCIA officers should be able to fine the store for not having prevention procedures such as locked wheels, barriers, deposit carts, or trucks to pick up their abandoned carts. This approach can be more realistic. We are currently researching this with Councilman Fulop's office.

At this time, a few members have contacted BJ's and we are asking all of our members to do the same. We need your help:

1) If you see a shopping cart, please call the JCIA Dispatch office at 201-432-4645 ext. 631 or 646.
2) Call BJ's and let them know that there is a constant problem with their shopping carts. They have a truck that is suppose to pick them up but it is not picking them up.

The General Manager is Tim Hebert, the Regional Manager is Mauro Amato.
The phone number to the club is 201-798-0500.

3) Send an email to MemberCare@bjs.accentonline.com and tell them that the abandonement of BJ's shopping carts in Jersey City has been creating a lot of problems.

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Thanks for posting the contact information. I sent an email to BJ's and urge all of you to do the same.

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The JCIA officers should be able to fine the store for not having prevention procedures such as locked wheels, barriers, deposit carts, or trucks to pick up their abandoned carts. This approach can be more realistic. We are currently researching this with Councilman Fulop's office.


To those who will be involved in these discussions: "trucks to pick up their abandoned carts" is not a prevention procedure. Neither is "deposit carts". Anyone who needs a cart to get things home will be willing to abandon a quarter for the convenience. The deposit cart was devised to encourage customers to return the cart to a central staging point after they've loaded their car. It reduces parking lot clutter; it does not prevent cart theft. Wheel locks are being used successfully by other big stores in the area and barriers by at least one.

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Hi All,
I spoke with BJ's regional manager Mauro Amato about 2 weeks ago and he said they are going to install 1 front wheel anti-theft lock and 1 back wheel anti-theft lock on all there carts to prevent people from stealing their carts. When the 2 wheel lock carts are pushed over an in-ground sensor BOTH wheels will lock up preventing the carts from leaving their lot. He also said they tried single wheel locks but people would just tip the carts back, lifting the single front locked wheel off the ground, and then wheel the carts passed the sensors thus defeating the locks. Mauro seemed just as frustrated by the cart situation as we residents claiming that he has to pay someone $500 a week just to drive around in a truck to retrieve all BJ's carts. We should all place a follow up call to Mauro...here is his number:1-845-803-2208

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Also, you could email The Consumerist, ( tips@consumerist.com ), they are often effective at convincing large corporations to do the right thing by publicly shaming the company.

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http://curbed.com/archives/2008/07/16 ... _city.php#reader_comments

Also, you can "Digg it" here:
http://digg.com/travel_places/BJ_s_Allows_Carts_to_Litter_City

My feeling is the more people read about how BJ's is letting their shopping carts roam the streets, the more likely they are to do something. Or the more likely the city will. Or both.

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Awesome. Finally maybe something might actually get done! Well done Jaah!

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Thanks for the link ianmac47, looks like the word is getting out! We, the residents of downtown JC need to keep getting the word out and make everyone aware of this persistant problem. By working together we can keep this problem in the public eye, there is power in numbers!! We have to bring about a new way of thinking for our neighborhoods.... dumping shopping carts on our streets and sidewalks will NOT be tolerated. I think some people actually thinks having these carts all over is acceptable, like part of the urban landscape. Some people are probably so used to seeing them they almost DON'T even notice them!! Keep up the good fight eveyone!

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Spotted one this evening behind the new Vespia dealership on 10th Street. Looked like it had been there a long time.

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I see this guy in a white van on my block today (2nd & Jersey) who looked like he was picking up stray carts. Had a few in his van and was pushing a BJ cart toward it. When I came back 1/2 hour later, the red plastic part of the cart was on the sidewalk and he appartently just took the metal part to scrap...

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one in front of paradise deli tonight... got a pic of it, i just need time to upload the collection i have of them

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I see this guy in a white van on my block today (2nd & Jersey) who looked like he was picking up stray carts. Had a few in his van and was pushing a BJ cart toward it. When I came back 1/2 hour later, the red plastic part of the cart was on the sidewalk and he appartently just took the metal part to scrap...


While it sucks that the scrapper left the red plastic part, its probably ultimately better for someone to be collecting these things and selling them for scrap. As long as collecting the carts every few days or weeks provides BJ's with enough carts for their customers, the incentive to control the problem is pretty low. On the other hand, if the shopping carts are being stripped and taken out of the pool of available shopping carts, eventually there won't be any carts left.

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Friends & Neighbors,

As I am sure you are aware, our neighborhood has a problem with shopping carts left in our neighborhood, particularly with carts from BJ's.

BJ's does collect them, and we need to encourage them to do so in a more timely manner while we figure out a more permanent solution to keeping the carts in the parking lots where they belong.

If you see a cart, call BJs at (201) 798-0500 and tell them exactly where the cart is so they can collect it. The general manager at our local BJs is named Tim Hebert. I also encourage you to email MemberCare@bjs.accentonline.com to let them know that this is a problem in our neighborhood.

You can also call the Incinerator Authority at 201-432-4645 ext. 631 or 646.

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I rather the scrap collector pick them up. Anyone have an email address for him?

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Here is the email response that I received today from the general manager:

I am pleased to inform you that within the next two weeks BJ's Wholesale
Club will be installing a new and improved wheel locking system on our
shopping carts. I apologize for the inconvenience these carts have
caused the community and share in your aggravation. Hopefully the new
wheel lock system will solve this issue once and for all. We do
currently employ a cart retrieval service that is out in Jersey City 5
days a week retrieving our carts. However, Jersey City is a big town so
please be patient as we collect our strays. Please feel free to call me
if you see any carts that linger for a day or two.

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Here is the email response that I received today from the general manager: I am pleased to inform you that within the next two weeks BJ's Wholesale Club will be installing a new and improved wheel locking system on our shopping carts.


Reminds me of the movie "The Money Pit" with Tom Hanks.

"How long will it take to fix my home?"
"Two Weeks!"

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I recieved a call today from Tim Hebert as well confirming the installation of an improved wheel lock system for their carts. The installation and retreval of abandoned carts will take aproximately two weeks. To assist in the retreval of the carts please call Tim when you see one so BJ's can pick it up as soon as possible.

Thanks to everyone!

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I recieved a call today from Tim Hebert as well confirming the installation of an improved wheel lock system for their carts. The installation and retreval of abandoned carts will take aproximately two weeks. To assist in the retreval of the carts please call Tim when you see one so BJ's can pick it up as soon as possible.

Thanks to everyone!

Jim


That's great news indeed! Thank-you Jim and thanks to all for bringing this issue into awareness. In the meantime, as Jim said, anytime you see a cart call BJ's 201-798-0500 then dial #0 and report them for a pick-up. Hopefully the new wheel locks will prevent the widescale cart dumping we all see but we all still need to be observant and vigilant in reporting stray pick ups!!

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BJ's has a contractor picking up carts in the neighborhood 5x a week, but it hasn't been enough.

So, by the end of July, their carts will be fitted with special wheel locks to prevent their carts from going astray.

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Friends & Neighbors,

As I am sure you are aware, our neighborhood has a problem with shopping carts left in our neighborhood, particularly with carts from BJ's.

BJ's does collect them, and we need to encourage them to do so in a more timely manner while we figure out a more permanent solution to keeping the carts in the parking lots where they belong.

If you see a cart, call BJs at (201) 798-0500 and tell them exactly where the cart is so they can collect it. The general manager at our local BJs is named Tim Hebert. I also encourage you to email MemberCare@bjs.accentonline.com to let them know that this is a problem in our neighborhood.

You can also call the Incinerator Authority at 201-432-4645 ext. 631 or 646.

Thanks

Eric Fleming
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Friends & Neighbors,

As I am sure you are aware, our neighborhood has a problem with shopping carts left in our neighborhood, particularly with carts from BJ's.

BJ's does collect them, and we need to encourage them to do so in a more timely manner while we figure out a more permanent solution to keeping the carts in the parking lots where they belong.

If you see a cart, call BJs at (201) 798-0500 and tell them exactly where the cart is so they can collect it. The general manager at our local BJs is named Tim Hebert. I also encourage you to email MemberCare@bjs.accentonline.com to let them know that this is a problem in our neighborhood.

You can also call the Incinerator Authority at 201-432-4645 ext. 631 or 646.

Thanks

Eric Fleming
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Eric,
FYI, Bj's is taking action in a way that we are hoping IS a permanant solution. They are going to install an anti-theft wheel lock on 1 front and 1 back wheel of every cart. When the carts are rolled over an in ground sensor the wheels lock up prevent the carts from leaving the lot. We all must still be vigilant in calling BJ's whenevr we see a cart so they can pick them up. Thank-you for restating the numbers. Hopefully all these abandoned carts will be a thing of the past!!

Jaah

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


clearly this wouldn't be an issue if you would return the flippin' cart to the store you got it at scumbag

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


clearly this wouldn't be an issue if you would return the flippin' cart to the store you got it at scumbag


You should be more careful about making libelous statements. I'm giving you the opportunity to retract them before I take legal action, but I have no such responsibility.

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


Are you really this dense? Firstly, its illegal to "take" the carts home. Its called stealing. It has never even crossed my mind to take one home because thats not what they are there for. I do not have a car and somehow manage to get all my groceries home without ever stealing a cart. Does it suck? Yes. Do I steal carts to make it easier on myself? NO. You think shopping carts add to the charm? They do NOT.

Your answer to everything is "Just leave Jersey City" Why not try and actually make it better? What do you have against making the city a nicer place? I have lived here for 10 years and have seen vast improvements in many areas. Its a quality of life thing. If you want it to stay the same, go to Newark. But the tides of change have come to JC and the decent people will soon outnumber the short-sighted people like you.

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


Why don't you go out and buy a black folding cart and use it to push your groceries home instead of littering downtown JC with the cart you stole?

You consider red BJ's carts strewn about downtown charming? Wow.

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Jclxz –

I said it before and I’ll say it again. What planet do you live on?

From what information I gathered each BJ’s cart costs them approximately $125.00ea. Tim has worked at the store for a year and a half and has reported that over 1000 carts have disappeared. That’s a grand total of $125,000.00. At even 1 cart at $125.00 I assume that it would be considered petty larceny, a term used for theft of objects usually under $500.00. Guess what? Taking a BJ’s cart is theft, period. If you need to get your groceries home from BJ’s then plan a little better or, heaven forbid, purchase a granny cart. Act responsibly.

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


Hard to believe that IGNORANCE like this actually exists in this world!! Simply stunning! I'm at a loss for words.

Jaah

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JClxs, if you will share your home address with the yuppie scum of JClist, we will happily wheel over all of the charm we find parked in front of our houses.

as a bonus, you can even have the trash that's filling the charm.

that way, you can have all the richness of the urban landscape to yourself, while we settle for a more miserable, charm-free existence.

it's win-win, really.

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Yuppie scumbags.


Get a job.

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Yuppie scumbags.


Get a job.


Errr... don't you mean "Get a car." or "Get a granny cart." ??

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Yuppie scumbags.


Get a job.


Errr... don't you mean "Get a car." or "Get a granny cart." ??


Or just, "don't be a douche."

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JClxs, if you will share your home address with the yuppie scum of JClist, we will happily wheel over all of the charm we find parked in front of our houses.

as a bonus, you can even have the trash that's filling the charm.

that way, you can have all the richness of the urban landscape to yourself, while we settle for a more miserable, charm-free existence.

it's win-win, really.


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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


clearly this wouldn't be an issue if you would return the flippin' cart to the store you got it at scumbag


You should be more careful about making libelous statements. I'm giving you the opportunity to retract them before I take legal action, but I have no such responsibility.


really? I have something to retract when you've refered to all the "complainers" as yuppie scumbags? don't think so, why don't you tell us where you live and I'll be happy to roll ALL the carts I find laying around up to your door so you'll never be at a loss for one!

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I've never considered myself to be a yuppie scumbag, but if I have to be one b/c I think bright red plastic carts filled with trash have no place in ANYONE's neighborhood, then please tell me where I can buy a "Hello, I'm a Yuppie Scumbag" badge.

Also, even if you forgot your granny cart at home, couldn't find a cab service, and had no way of carrying everything you just bought home and absolutely HAD to borrow a cart, why is it so difficult to return them? I've never seen anyone pushing an empty cart to the store, though obviously most shoppers plan on returning at some point, right? I think what most people are taking issue with is the ignorant, "Oh, I'll just leave it on the street (or in my hallway!) and somehow it will magically disappear."

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I hope that each one of you that complained take a shopping trip to BJ's, find that you can't get a cab to take you back in a timely manner (most of the cab services will not reliably show up at the supermarkets), and have no way to push the shopping cart home.

I also further hope that you have to buy a car for the sole purpose of grocery shopping.

I also further hope that once you have removed another tiny piece of the charm of Jersey City without it being replaced with something legitimate and positive, you find it a more and more miserable place to live.

Yuppie scumbags.


That'll be me honking as I roll through your intersection.

BEEP BEEP!

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...please tell me where I can buy a "Hello, I'm a Yuppie Scumbag" badge.


I can totally hook ya up.

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really? I have something to retract when you've refered to all the "complainers" as yuppie scumbags? don't think so, why don't you tell us where you live and I'll be happy to roll ALL the carts I find laying around up to your door so you'll never be at a loss for one!


You'd better get a lawyer now if you don't realize that "yuppie scumbag" is not a libelous statement, but knowingly falsely accusing someone of a crime is.

I'm still willing to accept a statement that you did not intend to accuse me of criminal activity. It does not need to reach the level of an apology.

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really? I have something to retract when you've refered to all the "complainers" as yuppie scumbags? don't think so, why don't you tell us where you live and I'll be happy to roll ALL the carts I find laying around up to your door so you'll never be at a loss for one!


You'd better get a lawyer now if you don't realize that "yuppie scumbag" is not a libelous statement, but knowingly falsely accusing someone of a crime is.

I'm still willing to accept a statement that you did not intend to accuse me of criminal activity. It does not need to reach the level of an apology.


Just as an anonymous poster making a generalized accusation about another anonymous poster is not libel, because your identity is protected. Genius.

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