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Re: Graffiti - Downtown
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Anyone else noticing a wave of tagging? I've been tagged both downtown and in the heights recently. It's been years since there's been much of this on my property.


If you don't stand still long enough, it's hard for them to get their tag on you.

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Anyone else noticing a wave of tagging? I've been tagged both downtown and in the heights recently. It's been years since there's been much of this on my property.

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ThirdRail, they actually removed it

Im glad

Posted on: 2007/10/24 21:14
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yep, that's it. it's eyecatching for sure!

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sorry for the name misspelling... i'm a bad speller.

as for this:
I'm pretty sure that by definition all graffiti is vandalism.
If it is legally sanctioned, it becomes graffiti-style art or something.


i totally agree.

there's some wherehouse backlot/corner i've seen in queens or the bronx, where artists are allowed to paint the buildings... it's really amazing to look at. and yeah, i sort of consider graffitti "artists" and taggers, not.


thats in Queens. Its called 5 Points. It's really quite amazing.

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sorry for the name misspelling... i'm a bad speller.

as for this:
I'm pretty sure that by definition all graffiti is vandalism.
If it is legally sanctioned, it becomes graffiti-style art or something.


i totally agree.

there's some wherehouse backlot/corner i've seen in queens or the bronx, where artists are allowed to paint the buildings... it's really amazing to look at. and yeah, i sort of consider graffitti "artists" and taggers, not.

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I never refuted the vandalism claim.

I just took langdonalger's comment as a sort of elitism from a fan of so-called "graffiti art". It seems as though he/she claims that this "honky's begone" is too rudimentry or something to be considered graffiti.

I'm pretty sure that by definition all graffiti is vandalism.
If it is legally sanctioned, it becomes graffiti-style art or something.

Oh, and it's reggay, not reggae. Like my namesake, the popular semi-fictional band, the Reggays, not like the musical genre, mon. Okay. I and I gotta go.

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hey Reggae, if you had looked up vandalism while you were in M-W.com - you'd see they define vandalism as:

willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property

Posted on: 2007/10/24 14:11
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It's world wide:

http://www.graffiti.org

And as old as history:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti

but I still get mad when it happens around me.

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I don't see the beauty in stuff like the fence on Erie around 4th street where someone spray painted "Honky Begone". It's been there a while.

I imagine if someone spray painted a swastika, or a racist term for any other group of people, it would cause some sort of hue and cry and get removed, no?


I saw that "Honky Begone" grafitti and I left. I guess that incantation worked!!!


Crap like this isn't graffiti, it's vandalism.


According to Merriam Webster, Graffiti is " unauthorized writing or drawing on a public surface "

What's your definition? Where does it come from?


any and all graffiti is form of vandalism of property

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I don't see the beauty in stuff like the fence on Erie around 4th street where someone spray painted "Honky Begone". It's been there a while.

I imagine if someone spray painted a swastika, or a racist term for any other group of people, it would cause some sort of hue and cry and get removed, no?


I saw that "Honky Begone" grafitti and I left. I guess that incantation worked!!!


Crap like this isn't graffiti, it's vandalism.


According to Merriam Webster, Graffiti is " unauthorized writing or drawing on a public surface "

What's your definition? Where does it come from?

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I don't see the beauty in stuff like the fence on Erie around 4th street where someone spray painted "Honky Begone". It's been there a while.

I imagine if someone spray painted a swastika, or a racist term for any other group of people, it would cause some sort of hue and cry and get removed, no?


I saw that "Honky Begone" grafitti and I left. I guess that incantation worked!!!


Crap like this isn't graffiti, it's vandalism.

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I don't see the beauty in stuff like the fence on Erie around 4th street where someone spray painted "Honky Begone". It's been there a while.

I imagine if someone spray painted a swastika, or a racist term for any other group of people, it would cause some sort of hue and cry and get removed, no?


I saw that "Honky Begone" grafitti and I left. I guess that incantation worked!!!

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On the SE corner of sussex and warren, someone wrote resist. It was in blue paint on the sidewalk in cursive.

I will contact the AGTF!

Posted on: 2007/10/22 12:36
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Anyone want to report this?

I tried once

No disrespect. This is like a mini memorial, but its not appealing to the city.

The can have all the things there, but not write it on the wall.

(By the way, every night like 10 peopel hang out there, i guess showing respect. If its removed, it might come back)





I tried in the past to have graffiti from a memorial removed and was told that because it's a memorial, the police need to be involved. The IA couldn't just go out there and paint over it. Needless to say, the maintance crew for the building painted over it a week or so later with no help from the city.

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Anyone want to report this?

I tried once

No disrespect. This is like a mini memorial, but its not appealing to the city.

The can have all the things there, but not write it on the wall.

(By the way, every night like 10 peopel hang out there, i guess showing respect. If its removed, it might come back)


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Hello all.

Last time, I sent out a photo of graffitti/tagging, someone
actually recognized the name as a dance group. So please take a look and let me know. Also, if you have been tagged, please let Jersey City Incinerator Authority know since they handle these matters.

If you can take a photo of the graffitti, I will report it to the
Community Relations Officer as well as the other Community Relations Officers. They have a relationship with the gang unit so they can follow up. Also, I will clarify with the Police whether or not they want us to call the 201.547.5477 number. Thanks!

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Well, you've made me see the light! Graffiti is cool! I hate not knowing who walked past my house/car/business and who loves who... what's your home address? I want to come by and leave you a nice multi-colored thank-you note courtesy of Krylon.

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On Saturday Night 9/15 at 9PM I observed two kids tagging in Hamilton Park. Here's a description - two white males age about 12 to 14. One 5' tall wearing a gray hoodie an the other 5'6" with a black hoodie and carrying a messenger pack - probably filled with markers/spray paint.

We reported it to the non-emergency # 201-547-5477, but by then they were long gone.

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go be productive and stop all whining people.
waaaaambulance is on the way


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Some of the graffiti is beautiful... but if I got to my store one day and my gates were covered with it I'd be pissed...


That would be the reason for creating some kind of "We like graffiti symbol," along with a, "No Graffiti!" symbol.

Example: a shop owner that liked art graffiti could stamp a blank wall with "Graffiti OK - 1 Month." A graffiti artist could put graffiti art on the wall, knowing it would be safe from the owner replacing it or erasing it for a month. The artist could then put up graffiti art and put an expiration date in the corner, so the next artist would know when it was OK to paint over the graffiti.

Maybe the building owner could supplement the stamp with the note "No racist/no sexism/no profanity" or something like that.

The problem with this approach is that some artists and gangstas would be jerks, but at least the system would give mellow graffiti artists and building owners a chance to find one another.

Another possible approach: maybe Craigslist could create a real estate subsection for building owners who want graffiti art on their buildings and artists who want to paint it. (If there is already a section like this on Craigslist, never mind.)

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Some of the graffiti is beautiful... but if I got to my store one day and my gates were covered with it I'd be pissed... it's not the look or the style that I want on my private property... if they'd like to do it on a big canvas or piece of plywood and leave it leaning against the front of my house, then I wouldn't mind so much.... I could find a proper place to display it. :) I'd also like some guitar bodies done btw.... ;)

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pieces = (street) art, and take a lot talent... tags are also ok depending on a writers hand style... the list goes on and on for my favorite writers around the world... but for JC specifically, cease, kaws, loser, tdee, what 4, just to name a few... msk crew has some good writers...

i know a lot of graffiti writers who work for big name designers... nike, adidas, phat farm, echo, gap, etc... so graf writers have talent... as far the little tags, from hoodlums that don't know anything about graffiti... i could agree...

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I don't see the beauty in stuff like the fence on Erie around 4th street where someone spray painted "Honky Begone". It's been there a while.

I imagine if someone spray painted a swastika, or a racist term for any other group of people, it would cause some sort of hue and cry and get removed, no?

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Ok guys.. there is a difference between "pieces" like the ceaze one featured in this string, and wack shit that kids (toys) write that take less than a minute to write and have no style or thought put into it. We live in a CITY if you cant see the beauty in it then move to the burbs. Or at least watch Style Wars or Wild Style to understand that this is a form of urban expression. Artists make a living doing work like that in this string. Ceaze is a very accomplished artist, along with his crew.

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Dogs_rule, that's 5 Pointz, LIC.

JCIA just came by Brunswick & 1st with the paint rollers.

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Ever take the 7 train out of manhattan and see that buliding thats covered in it. It awesome, I just saw it again yesterday. I gotta snap some shots of it.....

check out this link for some grafitti around the world, and some in JC too. theres a map and all...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8978154@N08/

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Most kids graffitti on buildings for people to see... To get their name out.

"Tags" or simple signatures are put in the most visible places.

For larger "pieces" its the same thing but of course it takes longer to finish so they need someplace visible but also safe for them to do their "work".

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From the light-rail, you can see graffiti on top of Target's. How did the kids climb up there?

Posted on: 2007/9/13 10:45
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I wish there were a way to distinguish between gang tagging, 7-year-olds who are getting silly with Magic Markers, and graffiti as art.

It seems to me that the graffiti in this picture is really beautiful. If I owned a building in Jersey City, I'd pay kids to do something like that.

Do graffiti artists insist on forcing graffiti on unwilling building owners because that's part of the fun, or do the artists just pick buildings randomly because they're too lazy or shy to contact the building owners?

If the latter: maybe it would be good if building owners could create some kind of "graffiti friendly building" and "no graffiti" signals, so graffiti artists would know which buildings were fair game and which they ought to avoid.

Another thought: some of the Jersey City schools that were built in the 1960s and 1970s look drab and hideous. I wish the school board would hire graffiti artist kids to cover all of that excrement brown brick with graffiti art.

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