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9/23/2016: Washington (CNN) Ted Cruz endorsed Donald Trump for the presidency Friday afternoon, a stunning turn of events after a contentious primary filled with nasty personal attacks and a dramatic snub at the Republican National Convention.

"After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump," Cruz wrote in a Facebook post.


Just another sniffling, self-serving failed candidate looking not to be shafted after the elections. Unfortunately his only option is to support Trump, who in turn will sink the Republican ship for many ... Note: Trump has changed his political allegiance 5 times since the 80's ... Trump swings his allegiance as often as he does his prospective partners / wives !
this kind of talk is tragic and unacceptable. it will not be tolerated!

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The next Cruz family meeting is going to be awkward.


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9/23/2016: Washington (CNN) Ted Cruz endorsed Donald Trump for the presidency Friday afternoon, a stunning turn of events after a contentious primary filled with nasty personal attacks and a dramatic snub at the Republican National Convention.

"After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump," Cruz wrote in a Facebook post.


Just another sniffling, self-serving failed candidate looking not to be shafted after the elections. Unfortunately his only option is to support Trump, who in turn will sink the Republican ship for many ... Note: Trump has changed his political allegiance 5 times since the 80's ... Trump swings his allegiance as often as he does his prospective partners / wives !

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Obama is in a jam when Nancy Pelosi will vote to override the veto.



It is well known that Obama and the democrat house leadership never really got along... building that bridge was part of Biden's job.

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Washington (CNN) Ted Cruz endorsed Donald Trump for the presidency Friday afternoon, a stunning turn of events after a contentious primary filled with nasty personal attacks and a dramatic snub at the Republican National Convention.

"After many months of careful consideration, of prayer and searching my own conscience, I have decided that on Election Day, I will vote for the Republican nominee, Donald Trump," Cruz wrote in a Facebook post.

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I love how Trump's new wife wanted to sue over remarks about 'suspectly' working as an escort, yet Trump himself, makes slanderous and derogatory remarks about others with total disregard - By the way, how is that case going for Ms Trump?


Like most things the Trumps do, it was successful, and the media outlet apologized for their slanderous remarks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... nia-Trump-retraction.html


The newspaper people are playing the same game as Trump - lie through your ass, then give a quick apology afterwards.

Possibly our new first lady in the white house - The world will be laughing their asses off on how stupid people must be in the US to have elected Trump !

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Naw ...you are pretty ignorant about the world view on attractive first ladies and monarchs... Maggie Trudeau Canada Grace Kelly Momaco, Queen Of Jordan, Spain, Netherlands.... check out the woman who married the king of Thailand. Not to mention Jackie Kennedy Onassis. I have always thought Michelle had great arms.... remember that foolish liberal BS during the first term of Obama.

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Possibly our new first lady in the white house - The world will be laughing their asses off on how stupid people must be in the US to have elected Trump !

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But they won?t be laughing at us if Hillary gets elected right? Her husband the ex-President and possibly future first man was getting BJ?s from interns in the Oval Office. The same Oval Office that President Hillary may be sitting in come January. LOL

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An affair of state

At the heart of Kenneth Starr's explicit but coldly clinical report is a furtive sex drama

The sexual encounters between the President and Monica Lewinsky are rendered in explicit though chilly language. While graphic descriptions may be necessary for Kenneth Starr to prove that Clinton had sex with the former intern under any definition (and thus committed perjury), the referral's bald, footnoted narrative reveals even more complex human intimacies. Initiated the week a budget impasse shut down the government, the furtive, sterile affair has brought Washington to a standstill once again. Excerpts from the report:

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1998/09/14/affair.state.html



Most of the world was shaking their head that a BJ in an office could be such a big deal in the US then, they still don't care now.

The BJ did not bring the country politically to an halt. The silly massive story Republicans made out of it did.

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O-blame-a. The self proclaimed most transparent president in history. Just vetoed a bill to allow 9/11 families from suing the Saudis. You guys want more of this????


I actually agree with the president, but to your point:

"Mr. Obama issued the veto behind closed doors on Friday without fanfare, reluctant to call attention to a debate that has pitted him against the families of terrorism victims. Not long before he did so, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee who had previously backed the measure, confirmed that if she were in the Oval Office, she would sign it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/24/us/ ... to-saudi-arabia-9-11.html

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Possibly our new first lady in the white house - The world will be laughing their asses off on how stupid people must be in the US to have elected Trump !

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But they won?t be laughing at us if Hillary gets elected right? Her husband the ex-President and possibly future first man was getting BJ?s from interns in the Oval Office. The same Oval Office that President Hillary may be sitting in come January. LOL

(juicy stuff no pun intended)

An affair of state

At the heart of Kenneth Starr's explicit but coldly clinical report is a furtive sex drama

The sexual encounters between the President and Monica Lewinsky are rendered in explicit though chilly language. While graphic descriptions may be necessary for Kenneth Starr to prove that Clinton had sex with the former intern under any definition (and thus committed perjury), the referral's bald, footnoted narrative reveals even more complex human intimacies. Initiated the week a budget impasse shut down the government, the furtive, sterile affair has brought Washington to a standstill once again. Excerpts from the report:

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1998/09/14/affair.state.html



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Obama is in a jam when Nancy Pelosi will vote to override the veto.

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O-blame-a. The self proclaimed most transparent president in history. Just vetoed a bill to allow 9/11 families from suing the Saudis. You guys want more of this????

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FAB, you sound very bitter. Don't be.

Trump will fix a lot of the problems caused by liberals and Make America Great Again!


Seriously now, are you on drugs, need drugs or taking too much drugs. As a swinging voter, Trump is at the bottom of my list to get a vote ... I'm waiting for a 'dark horse' to raise their head, that will prove to be a better option then the two who are grabbing the highlight.

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FAB, you sound very bitter. Don't be.

Trump will fix a lot of the problems caused by liberals and Make America Great Again!

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I love how Trump's new wife wanted to sue over remarks about 'suspectly' working as an escort, yet Trump himself, makes slanderous and derogatory remarks about others with total disregard - By the way, how is that case going for Ms Trump?


Like most things the Trumps do, it was successful, and the media outlet apologized for their slanderous remarks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... nia-Trump-retraction.html


You crack me up! Say things enough time and it makes it true? Failure? He wasn't good at running casinos, and left taxpayers with the tab. Overall he did a very poor job with the gaming properties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyr ... p-atlantic-city.html?_r=0

And Melania - the NYPost leaked the nude photos of Melania during a difficult time for Trump as a distraction - AND NOBODY CARED! It was hysterical. Such a transparent and shameless ploy that turned out to be a dud.

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Did the president of France have a wife and girlfriend? I forgot which one met the Obama and his wife, was it the girlfriend or the wife?

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I love how Trump's new wife wanted to sue over remarks about 'suspectly' working as an escort, yet Trump himself, makes slanderous and derogatory remarks about others with total disregard - By the way, how is that case going for Ms Trump?


Like most things the Trumps do, it was successful, and the media outlet apologized for their slanderous remarks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... nia-Trump-retraction.html


The newspaper people are playing the same game as Trump - lie through your ass, then give a quick apology afterwards.

Possibly our new first lady in the white house - The world will be laughing their asses off on how stupid people must be in the US to have elected Trump !

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I love how Trump's new wife wanted to sue over remarks about 'suspectly' working as an escort, yet Trump himself, makes slanderous and derogatory remarks about others with total disregard - By the way, how is that case going for Ms Trump?


Like most things the Trumps do, it was successful, and the media outlet apologized for their slanderous remarks.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic ... nia-Trump-retraction.html

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Hillary started the birther movement and she voted for the invasion of Iraq. Just a reminder


Here's a fairly meaty assessment of that vote for anyone interested. I do think Clinton is a bit of a hawk, but it was not as though she was gung-ho about launching into an invasion.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_an ... ut_her_iraq_war_vote.html



Hillary didn?t directly start the birther movement but her supporters did back in 2008 before the DNC convention. It was the PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) group. From what I read Trump started it up again in 2011 he wasn?t satisfied with Obama releasing his short ?certification of live birth? in 2008 to stop PUMA and the lawsuit. So in 2011 Trump got involved and pushed for a release of the long form birth certificate which was eventually released in April 2011. "I've accomplished something nobody else was able to accomplish," Trump said.

Here's a piece on the start of the birther movement from back in 2008...

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By - The Washington Times - Thursday, August 28, 2008

Pennsylvania?s former deputy attorney general and Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton supporter Philip J. Berg has filed a lawsuit in federal court in Pennsylvania accusing presumptive Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama of lying about his U.S. citizenship, which would make him ineligible to be president.

Mr. Berg is one of a faction of Clinton supporters who haven?t heeded the party?s call for unity, filing the suit just days before the opening of the Democratic National Convention, which will nominate Mr. Obama as the party?s presidential candidate.

The suit, filed in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia last week, also names the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission and says Mr. Obama?s mother went to Kenya late in her pregnancy and ended up giving birth there. It also claims that later in life, Mr. Obama declared himself a citizen of Indonesia.

The Obama campaign has firmly said the Illinois Democrat is a natural-born citizen. Last month, the campaign posted on Mr. Obama?s Web site a copy of his ?certification of live birth.? It says he was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, two years after Hawaii was named the 50th state.

Mr. Berg said he was contacted about filing the lawsuit by a member or associate of the group PUMA, which was formed to support Mrs. Clinton shortly after she withdrew from the race. Its mission includes denouncing the Democratic Party and Mr. Obama?s nomination.

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Here's a fairly meaty assessment of that vote for anyone interested. I do think Clinton is a bit of a hawk, but it was not as though she was gung-ho about launching into an invasion.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_an ... ut_her_iraq_war_vote.html

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I love how Trump's new wife wanted to sue over remarks about 'suspectly' working as an escort, yet Trump himself, makes slanderous and derogatory remarks about others with total disregard - By the way, how is that case going for Ms Trump?

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You keep saying that without proof as if it will suddenly come true, yet you can't say anything about how birtherism launched Trump's political career. It is rather childish.

Yeah, she voted for the Iraq war and so did many others. Even Trump was for the war before he changed his mind when it was no longer convenient. Sound familiar?

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The difference is As a businessman who has filed bankruptcy you feel Trump should be jailed. In Clintons case there is documented evidence of her criminal acts.


I'm not the one saying he should be in jail but many people do. He has enough scandals going on without even touching on the bankruptcies.

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)


Could you link to the NY times article? I have seen $96M to $17M, not the numbers you mentioned.
Anyway, that makes you wonder how is Trump spending his campaign money. I know he is spending a lot of his donors money to pay himself for his plane, his hotels and his offices but he couldn't spend it all on it. Could he?

Regarding Hillary Clinton appearance at the debate, I don't know what the over/under is but I am willing to bet she will be there. Ready to take the bet? how much?


I have the copy I the car, I'll get it later-I'm used up on the free online reads.

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)


Could you link to the NY times article? I have seen $96M to $17M, not the numbers you mentioned.
Anyway, that makes you wonder how is Trump spending his campaign money. I know he is spending a lot of his donors money to pay himself for his plane, his hotels and his offices but he couldn't spend it all on it. Could he?

Regarding Hillary Clinton appearance at the debate, I don't know what the over/under is but I am willing to bet she will be there. Ready to take the bet? how much?



?And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump.?

(I posted this somewhere without a link to it. It is amazing she is spending all of that money and is behind or tied in most polls. It was supposed to be an easy win for Clinton)

POLITICS SEP 20 2016, 8:21 AM ET
First Read: Clinton Outspending Trump 5-1 on the Air
by CHUCK TODD, MARK MURRAY and CARRIE DANN

Clinton is outspending Trump over the airwaves by a 5-to-1 margin

Hillary Clinton and her allies continue to dominate Donald Trump and pro-Trump outside groups in the 2016 advertising race. According to ad-spending data from NBC partner Advertising Analytics, Clinton's campaign has spent $96.4 million in ads in the general election, versus $17.3 million for Trump's campaign. That's more than a 5-to-1 advantage for Clinton. And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump. That's almost a 5-to-1 advantage.

Here are the numbers through this week:

Clinton camp: $96.4 million
Pro-Clinton outside groups: $60.2 million
Total Team Clinton: $156.6 million

Trump camp: $17.3 million
Pro-Trump outside groups: $16.3 million
Total Team Trump: $33.6 million


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first ... ing-trump-5-1-air-n651106






I forgot. FiveThirtyEight (poll of polls) put her ahead so not sure about the "is behind or tied in most polls" statement.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2 ... -forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)


Could you link to the NY times article? I have seen $96M to $17M, not the numbers you mentioned.
Anyway, that makes you wonder how is Trump spending his campaign money. I know he is spending a lot of his donors money to pay himself for his plane, his hotels and his offices but he couldn't spend it all on it. Could he?

Regarding Hillary Clinton appearance at the debate, I don't know what the over/under is but I am willing to bet she will be there. Ready to take the bet? how much?



?And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump.?

(I posted this somewhere without a link to it. It is amazing she is spending all of that money and is behind or tied in most polls. It was supposed to be an easy win for Clinton)

POLITICS SEP 20 2016, 8:21 AM ET
First Read: Clinton Outspending Trump 5-1 on the Air
by CHUCK TODD, MARK MURRAY and CARRIE DANN

Clinton is outspending Trump over the airwaves by a 5-to-1 margin

Hillary Clinton and her allies continue to dominate Donald Trump and pro-Trump outside groups in the 2016 advertising race. According to ad-spending data from NBC partner Advertising Analytics, Clinton's campaign has spent $96.4 million in ads in the general election, versus $17.3 million for Trump's campaign. That's more than a 5-to-1 advantage for Clinton. And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump. That's almost a 5-to-1 advantage.

Here are the numbers through this week:

Clinton camp: $96.4 million
Pro-Clinton outside groups: $60.2 million
Total Team Clinton: $156.6 million

Trump camp: $17.3 million
Pro-Trump outside groups: $16.3 million
Total Team Trump: $33.6 million


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first ... ing-trump-5-1-air-n651106





That is the numbers I have seen as well.

As mentioned before, Trump is getting a lot of earned media (free) so he does not need to spend a lot on TV. Earned media is one thing he is really good at.

He is raising a lot of money as well so he must be spending it somewhere else that makes more sense for the type of campaign is running.

According to the article below, Clinton out-spent Trump $48M to $30M so he is spending but not as much on TV:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/po ... o-where-did-the-money-go/

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)


Could you link to the NY times article? I have seen $96M to $17M, not the numbers you mentioned.
Anyway, that makes you wonder how is Trump spending his campaign money. I know he is spending a lot of his donors money to pay himself for his plane, his hotels and his offices but he couldn't spend it all on it. Could he?

Regarding Hillary Clinton appearance at the debate, I don't know what the over/under is but I am willing to bet she will be there. Ready to take the bet? how much?



?And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump.?

(I posted this somewhere without a link to it. It is amazing she is spending all of that money and is behind or tied in most polls. It was supposed to be an easy win for Clinton)

POLITICS SEP 20 2016, 8:21 AM ET
First Read: Clinton Outspending Trump 5-1 on the Air
by CHUCK TODD, MARK MURRAY and CARRIE DANN

Clinton is outspending Trump over the airwaves by a 5-to-1 margin

Hillary Clinton and her allies continue to dominate Donald Trump and pro-Trump outside groups in the 2016 advertising race. According to ad-spending data from NBC partner Advertising Analytics, Clinton's campaign has spent $96.4 million in ads in the general election, versus $17.3 million for Trump's campaign. That's more than a 5-to-1 advantage for Clinton. And then when you factor in outside groups, it's $156.6 million for Team Clinton, and $33.6 million for Team Trump. That's almost a 5-to-1 advantage.

Here are the numbers through this week:

Clinton camp: $96.4 million
Pro-Clinton outside groups: $60.2 million
Total Team Clinton: $156.6 million

Trump camp: $17.3 million
Pro-Trump outside groups: $16.3 million
Total Team Trump: $33.6 million


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first ... ing-trump-5-1-air-n651106




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So she made a BS claim of being broke, that somehow makes her a criminal? You even state the money is reported income so where is the criminality? She released her tax returns, yes? Where is Trump's?

The whole 'she should be in jail' nonsense can be said about both candidates. It's all wishful garbage when we know they are too powerful to be held accountable. All we can judge them with is with their own words and while Hillary can be slimy, the slime emanating from Trump is beyond ridiculous. The guy doesn't care if you know about it, he brags about it and he never once apologized for it.


The difference is As a businessman who has filed bankruptcy you feel Trump should be jailed. In Clintons case there is documented evidence of her criminal acts.

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You mean the screw-up of lying about Obama not being born in the United States? That's like 7 years too late dude.

But seriously, you think Trump, who brags about bribing politicians will somehow end the corrupt practices the freely admits to doing?


Hillary started the birther movement and she voted for the invasion of Iraq. Just a reminder

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)


Could you link to the NY times article? I have seen $96M to $17M, not the numbers you mentioned.
Anyway, that makes you wonder how is Trump spending his campaign money. I know he is spending a lot of his donors money to pay himself for his plane, his hotels and his offices but he couldn't spend it all on it. Could he?

Regarding Hillary Clinton appearance at the debate, I don't know what the over/under is but I am willing to bet she will be there. Ready to take the bet? how much?

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The New York Times reported today that Hillary and pro-Clinton supporters have spent $145 million dollars on tv and radio ads, vs $4 million by Trump and his supporters.

Her return on the dollar is making Jeb's wasted $100 million dollar campaign look great!

(btw, do we have an over/under whether Hillary has to postpone the debate next week?)

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So she made a BS claim of being broke, that somehow makes her a criminal? You even state the money is reported income so where is the criminality? She released her tax returns, yes? Where is Trump's?

The whole 'she should be in jail' nonsense can be said about both candidates. It's all wishful garbage when we know they are too powerful to be held accountable. All we can judge them with is with their own words and while Hillary can be slimy, the slime emanating from Trump is beyond ridiculous. The guy doesn't care if you know about it, he brags about it and he never once apologized for it.

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