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If you know history, then you will know at its beginning Islam was spread by the sword. Northern Africa had a large Christian community. Several popes were from there as well as St. Augustine. It also spread into Spain, Portugal, and southern Italy. There were many battles to throw it out of Europe. Did those countries invade the Middle East, the answer is no? I still remember the Saudi king offering bin Laden to President Clinton in the late 1990s. But Clinton turned down his capture. As extreme as Saudis are, bin Laden was even more extreme. France did nothing to Islam except not being a Islamic country. Stop blaming western civilization for this problem.


And Christianity has not been spread by the sword???

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To briefly step away from the Muslim-bashing bigotry and address the original thread topic, here is an article in which folklorist looks into the origin of Trump's big lie.

How the lie that American Muslims cheered on 9/11 began


I'd love to see if you were this obsessed over Hillary's many, many lies. Somehow I doubt it.

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As Trump isn't a politician, has not been elected to any office or is a public servant who is paying for the police security that is constantly around him in media photos - why should taxpayers money be spent on this nobody until such time he is officially elected ... could any business person demand such free police security ... I'm sure Trump can pay his own way when it comes to security and allow these police officers to work for the community instead!

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To briefly step away from the Muslim-bashing bigotry and address the original thread topic, here is an article in which folklorist looks into the origin of Trump's big lie.

How the lie that American Muslims cheered on 9/11 began

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Will we have to look forward to this now with the influx of Syrian refugees too? We already have enough to worry about the sleeper cell Syed Farooks living in the USA as it is.


"This is for Syria... blood will be spilled': Terror comes to London after knifeman threatening revenge for airstrikes slashes man at Tube station and is filmed being Tasered by police as families flee
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As long as we keep intervening in the Middle East, well yes.


If you know history, then you will know at its beginning Islam was spread by the sword. Northern Africa had a large Christian community. Several popes were from there as well as St. Augustine. It also spread into Spain, Portugal, and southern Italy. There were many battles to throw it out of Europe. Did those countries invade the Middle East, the answer is no? I still remember the Saudi king offering bin Laden to President Clinton in the late 1990s. But Clinton turned down his capture. As extreme as Saudis are, bin Laden was even more extreme. France did nothing to Islam except not being a Islamic country. Stop blaming western civilization for this problem.

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How do you explain the triple suicide bombing in Chad today?
It was 3 women ISIS suicide bombers , by the way. Chad is not a Westernized country either. And don't forget Libya was attacked by ISIS a day before the Paris attack. I don't recall Libya is a Western Country as well.


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Will we have to look forward to this now with the influx of Syrian refugees too? We already have enough to worry about the sleeper cell Syed Farooks living in the USA as it is.


"This is for Syria... blood will be spilled': Terror comes to London after knifeman threatening revenge for airstrikes slashes man at Tube station and is filmed being Tasered by police as families flee
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As long as we keep intervening in the Middle East, well yes.

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No, we shouldn't ask for Trump to be "punted out". As long as he's performing, it's the best thing to happen for Democrats. At some point, the real money behind the GOP will try to oust him, he's going to fight back and the Republican National Convention 2016 will be the best political circus you've ever seen.

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No State alone can make any substantial impact on gun control - It has to be a national effort. Any knucklehead can jump in a car and buy a siht load of weapons and bring them back to ANY State ... There are no State boarder controls in place as we do for national boarder ones, thus California's controls are lame on their own but you have to give them credit for trying!

However, this has nothing to do with TRUMP being a total knucklehead and should be punted out of politics or be given any media time, with his 'hair-brain' solutions and opinions!

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No State alone can make any substantial impact on gun control - It has to be a national effort. Any knucklehead can jump in a car and buy a siht load of weapons and bring them back to ANY State ... There are no State boarder controls in place as we do for national boarder ones, thus California's controls are lame on their own but you have to give them credit for trying!

However, this has nothing to do with TRUMP being a total knucklehead and should be punted out of politics or be given any media time, with his 'hair-brain' solutions and opinions!

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Will we have to look forward to this now with the influx of Syrian refugees too? We already have enough to worry about the sleeper cell Syed Farooks living in the USA as it is.


"This is for Syria... blood will be spilled': Terror comes to London after knifeman threatening revenge for airstrikes slashes man at Tube station and is filmed being Tasered by police as families flee
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As long as we keep intervening in the Middle East, well yes.

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Right. Exactly. We should #OOPS# practice Religion Control Instead of Gun Control.

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Please note California has one of the strictest gun control in the nation. Yet these terrorists still got it and used it.

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TO THE JERSEY CITY POSTERS HERE:

Please note California has one of the strictest gun control in the nation. Yet these terrorists still got it and used it.

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Will we have to look forward to this now with the influx of Syrian refugees too? We already have enough to worry about the sleeper cell Syed Farooks living in the USA as it is.
"This is for Syria... blood will be spilled': Terror comes to London after knifeman threatening revenge for airstrikes slashes man at Tube station and is filmed being Tasered by police as families flee
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The standard argument about gun control can apply to Syrian refugees .....

Guns don't KILL, individuals do
Refugees don't KILL, individuals do


Except the terrorist in California also had 12 pipe bombs, thankfully not functional, maybe the next terrorist will have functional bombs.

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The standard argument about gun control can apply to Syrian refugees .....

Guns don't KILL, individuals do
Refugees don't KILL, individuals do

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Will we have to look forward to this now with the influx of Syrian refugees too? We already have enough to worry about the sleeper cell Syed Farooks living in the USA as it is.


"This is for Syria... blood will be spilled': Terror comes to London after knifeman threatening revenge for airstrikes slashes man at Tube station and is filmed being Tasered by police as families flee
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Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered when Trump failed in his Presidential Bid

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This is very chilling .... (no doubt there are some posting here are supporters but that's another topic)


300 American ISIS Supporters Help Islamic State Recruitment, Propaganda On Twitter

No fewer than 300 American sympathizers are helping the Islamic State terrorist group recruit potential members and spread propaganda via Twitter, according to a new report from George Washington University's Program on Extremism. The report drew on court records, media reports, interviews and other sources to find that U.S. supporters of the group, aka ISIS, ?spasmodically create accounts that often get suspended in a never-ending cat-and-mouse game.?

The FBI has increased its surveillance of known ISIS supporters in the U.S. since terrorist attacks claimed 130 lives in Paris last month. 56 Americans have been arrested on ISIS-related charges this year, the Wall Street Journal reported, and concern about the group's influence has grown since ISIS expanded its breadth of attacks. Now, in a report published Tuesday, researchers have pointed out hundreds of Twitter users based in the U.S. who are helping ISIS spread its message, including a number who ?cultivated and later strengthened their interest in ISIS' narrative through face-to-face relationships.?

Researchers tracked users by using Twitter's geolocating tools, analyzing their use of language or cultural references and found many who self-identified as Americans, either in their Twitter handle or in their conversations. Roughly one-third were women, and both sexes tended to use black flags or other ISIS iconography in their avatars. Experts warned that while not all of those identified pose threats to U.S. national security, American ISIS supporters tend to congregate in small cells that are difficult for authorities to identify.

" Experts warned that while not all of those identified pose threats to U.S. national security, American ISIS supporters tend to congregate in small cells that are difficult for authorities to identify."

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The countries where ISIS finds support, in two charts

The San Bernardino, Calif., massacre is bringing even more attention to Islamic State?s frighteningly rapid global growth, and where around the world it has found traction ? not just in terms of territory gained, but in support.

Even with many details of the case still unknown, law-enforcement officials see a chilling terror danger from extremist sympathizers who, unnoticed by authorities, are able to amass deadly arsenals to attack vulnerable gatherings anywhere in the U.S., writes the Wall Street Journal.

A study out of the Brookings Institution used Twitter to shine some light on this, comparing the countries where tweets from ISIS supporters originate. The study dealt with a sample size of 20,000 and found that Saudi Arabia is the top location claimed by Twitter users supporting ISIS in 2015. Syria follows, Iraq rounds off the top three and the U.S. takes fourth place.

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The world according to TRUMP

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There have been 21 States with ISIS arrests. San Bernardino Terrorist Attack was the only one successful, thus far. That's JACKED UP!


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United States need a 3rd Party. A Federalist Party!

Adopt Switzerland's model! This is the only way to clean this f'd-up country. Perhaps, gun violence, immigration, life, health will improve.

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U.S.A. should also adopt Switzerland's immigration policy.
That is the ONLY WAY to stop this nonesense with immigration who should be here, who shouldn't be here, who are terrorists, who's not? bla bla bla.

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U.S.A. needs to be Federalist
We need to adopt Switzerland's model.
That is the ONLY WAY to stop international terrorism in our shores.

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Speaking of Trump and Putin and since the thread is about Trump's lies, one of my favorite Trump lies is that Trump "got to know [Putin] very well because we were both on ?60 Minutes, we were stablemates, and we did very well that night.?

Of course, Putin and Trump were 4,666 miles apart. Each man was interviewed separately Trump was in his New York penthouse and Putin was in Moscow.

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?I got to know him very well because we were both on ?60 Minutes,? we were stablemates, and we did very well that night,? Trump said during the Republican debate hosted by Fox Business Network and the Wall Street Journal on Nov. 10.

The two did appear on the same ?60 Minutes? episode, which aired on Sept. 27. But journalist Charlie Rose traveled to Moscow for the two-hour interview with Putin, and Trump was interviewed by Scott Pelley in Trump?s Fifth Avenue penthouse in Manhattan.


Trump vs. Fiorina: Who Knows Putin Best?

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Obama had been afraid to bomb ISIS oil trucks for fear of killing civilian drivers, and oil fields for environmental reasons. Now he's leafleting oil convoys telling drivers to leave the trucks. Meanwhile, Putin is just hitting ISIS cities and Great Britain is hitting oil fields. I think what Trump didn't say was to pull ISIS families out and shoot them, but to attack without total regard for collateral damage.

Of course, when Obama drones associated civilians with targets he's been doing the same thing as Trump proffers.


That's a myth. Putin is primarily bombing Torkmen and Kurds so as to shore up Assad as the only practical alternative to ISIS. The Right Wing is shameful in promoting a "tough guy" since it's a leader cult without its own leader, so it praises bombings that are counter productive.

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And per Trump, we just need to bomb them more, right? Because that works?


Trump made the point of cutting off ISIS's cash flow, which right now is primarily coming from captured oil wells in Syria (yes.. Syria does have oil). To quote Cicero, "The sinews of war are infinite money". You can't feed, supply, or pay soldiers without it.

Until recently, we didn't target their oil infrastructure (afraid of air pollution? I have no idea what the reason is). The Russians are primarily concentrating on non-ISIS anti-Assad forces.

When we did starting hitting them, we would leaflet the ISIS fighters to warn them to run away before the air strikes came in.


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Trump - hate him or love him he has been on point.

San Bernardino TERROR ATTACK was indeed linked to ISIS.
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It starting to look like the wife was the instigator. She came over recently on a K-1 Visa. So much for the background check keeping out potential terrorists.

BTW: I went through the K-1 process with my wife. Unless the woman committed a crime back in her home country, the check won't find anything.

At no time, were any checks or inquires made on political or religious background when my wife went through the process.

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Trump - hate him or love him he has been on point.

San Bernardino TERROR ATTACK was indeed linked to ISIS.
Everything Trump argued and pointed out came to light thanks to the SB Terror Attack. There are more terror cells in our midst, won't be shocked if many here who posts are supporters of muslim terrorists but that's another topic.

Farook was a US citizen of muslim faith. He lived the american dream. he went to school and graduated college. Got a good job. Assimilated , at least, by doing the American way of getting an education and career only to attack the country his parents adopted.

Say what you all will about this, however, San Bernardino was the deadliest attack by an international terror org (supporters or members alike) who successfully attack on US soil since 9/11 and Boston Bombers.


And per Trump, we just need to bomb them more, right? Because that works?

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Monroe, he specifically said 'kill their families' so WTF are you talking about truck drivers for and bringing Obama into this? We have been bombing ISIS for months to the point that we are actually running out of bombs!

Now I'm waiting for the first Trump supporter to actually murder a 6 month old child because their fearless leader told them so. They're just stupid enough to do it too.


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Trump - hate him or love him he has been on point.

San Bernardino TERROR ATTACK was indeed linked to ISIS.
Everything Trump argued and pointed out came to light thanks to the SB Terror Attack. There are more terror cells in our midst, won't be shocked if many here who posts are supporters of muslim terrorists but that's another topic.

Farook was a US citizen of muslim faith. He lived the american dream. he went to school and graduated college. Got a good job. Assimilated , at least, by doing the American way of getting an education and career only to attack the country his parents adopted.

Say what you all will about this, however, San Bernardino was the deadliest attack by an international terror org (supporters or members alike) who successfully attack on US soil since 9/11 and Boston Bombers.

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Biggest Bush donor to run anti-Trump ad:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/g ... onor-to-run-anti-trump-ad

It's entertaining to see fights among pathetic Republicans.

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