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Yvonne, you must know that you and the Reverend are the biggest Debbie Downers that Jersey City has. There's no pleasing you, I'm sure. Who would you rather see as Mayor of Jersey City?

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Bravo to the author below! Someone formally made all the valid points I've made on here. Too many stupid people enamored by a great PR machine elect empty suits like Booker and Fulop to positions they haven't earned.

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If Father Santora said something that was a lie, I would agree, but he pointed out how McGreevey can work a crowd, while Fulop is busy texting, not engaging with people. Santora also pointed out that Fulop changed his policy on abatements once he became mayor. These are valid points, there are no attacks here, just the facts.

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The Reverend Santora's father was a prizefighter, so it is in his blood to go after things. Santora's Park, on Grand St, near P.S #4 is name after the fighter.

That's no excuse.

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It sounds to me like the Reverend is obsessed with Mayor Fulop.

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I agree Alex is and has been a fighter and he has always put the best interest on the city first. In his letter he attached the sacred cow, St. Steven! Shame on him for calling the mayor out!!

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The Reverend Santora's father was a prizefighter, so it is in his blood to go after things. Santora's Park, on Grand St, near P.S #4 is name after the fighter.

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I think the Reverend should learn some manners.

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I don't care much about this issue one way or another.

But I want say that many of the points that Rev. Santora views as a negative for a politician are a positive in my book. Especially socially awkward and inexperience as a politician.

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By THE REV. ALEXANDER M. SANTORA
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Talk of Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop running for governor after a little more than one year in office makes me wonder what qualifies one to run for higher office. In Fulop?s case, it?s seems to be simply that he was elected mayor.

I am still mystified how Fulop, socially awkward, even got elected. I know he was somewhat of an iconoclastic councilman. But throwing out good ideas does not make a good city manager. Plus, he has done some 360 on abatements, pay-for-play and cozying up to state bigwigs to feather his nest. His abandonment of his former Jersey City Board of Education members is playing nice to the JCEA. We can?t trust what he does because it doesn?t seem in the best interests of the city but his own personal ambitions.

He comes across as a dilettante. He shows up ? anywhere, anytime, at anything. Recall the photos you see in the newspaper. He?s getting his blood pressure checked by Dr. Oz when he visited Jersey City; going down a slide in a new children?s park; or cutting endless opening business ribbons.

When former Gov. Jim McGreevey hosted a conference on post-prison life at St. Peter?s University, earlier this year, Fulop was there. McGreevey was working the crowd: hugging, back slapping, glad handing and pumping them up. Fulop stayed up front: standing, sitting, texting, walking and then, well, repeat. He gave a listless talk on helping ex-prisoners that could have been delivered by a criminal justice major. He hardly connected with the audience, got a polite applause and sat down. He never once engaged a person, like McGreevey, on his own but waited for people to come to him. And then the encounter was perfunctory.

Fulop needs to drop this gubernatorial quest and run a city with a myriad of problems for the long haul. Just look north to Mayors Brian Stack and Richard Turner, who have served for years and have made Union City and Weehawken, respectively, successful cities. Both are as political as the next but live out their commitments.

We?ve seen this hubris before. Sen. Cory Booker, seemed to have one foot out the door in Newark just as he set one foot in, as mayor. And the city suffered for that ambition. Gov. Chris Christie has had his head swell, not even two years in office, as a potential presidential candidate and hasn?t stopped grasping. The state?s in one big mess during his travels around the country.

Last Thursday, this newspaper published an unscientific poll on whether Fulop should run for governor with 59.06 percent voting "yes," 40.84, "no." It could be that people are beginning to realize that he should vacate Jersey City so we can elect a mayor who wants to stay and govern.

EDITOR?S NOTE: The Rev. Alexander Santora is the pastor of The Church of Our Lady of Grace & St. Joseph, Hoboken, and he can be reached by email at padrealex@yahoo.com. Santora also writes the Faith Matters column for The Jersey Journal.

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Thanks you for the clarification but if anyone seriously thought that Fulop was behind the website, I have a great inherence of million dollars that I just need you to sent me one time of $500 to get money unlocked then sent to you. Contck me as soon as possilbe.



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Goldman Sachs, Ambassador, New Jersey Governor?

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Monday, November 10, 2014, 11:26 PM

NEWARK, N.J. -- Here?s a name you?ll be hearing a lot about over the next three years in New Jersey politics: Philip D. Murphy.

A former Goldman Sachs executive and national finance chairman for the Democratic National Committee, Murphy was U.S. ambassador to Germany from 2009 to 2013.

On Monday, he officially launched a nonprofit advocacy organization called New Start New Jersey, which says it wants to strengthen the state?s economy ?from the middle class out.?

In doing so, Murphy also unofficially launched a shadow campaign for governor. Murphy hasn?t hidden his ambitions -- he told my Statehouse colleague Matt Friedman of the Star-Ledger in May that he?s ?very serious? about considering a run for governor

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new ... .html#JzqBpylFYxLJ4fQ1.99

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the Redevelopment Agency. They're giving choice properties away to developers without them having to use public auctions. Schundler gave LeFrak a lot of property in the Newport area that should have been used for a greater use, like a park.


How are they "giving" these properties away? Does the City own them? Or is the city imply giving rights to build on them?

The City owned them and gave them to the JCRA who is NOT putting them out to the highest bidder.


**Literally** owned the properties? And no form of bidding process at all? That's terrible.

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the Redevelopment Agency. They're giving choice properties away to developers without them having to use public auctions. Schundler gave LeFrak a lot of property in the Newport area that should have been used for a greater use, like a park.


How are they "giving" these properties away? Does the City own them? Or is the city imply giving rights to build on them?

The City owned them and gave them to the JCRA who is NOT putting them out to the highest bidder.

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the Redevelopment Agency. They're giving choice properties away to developers without them having to use public auctions. Schundler gave LeFrak a lot of property in the Newport area that should have been used for a greater use, like a park.


How are they "giving" these properties away? Does the City own them? Or is the city imply giving rights to build on them?

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.

If you think that's bad, take a look at the Redevelopment Agency. They're giving choice properties away to developers without them having to use public auctions. Schundler gave LeFrak a lot of property in the Newport area that should have been used for a greater use, like a park.

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Then Fulop should say something, instead he is allowing others on this forum to speak for him.

I doubt if Fulop knows about it. It's not like JCList has a massive following and is the go-to place for current events. The analyticals show on average only 18 unique visitors to this site. Yvonne, you probably have a bigger following.


Where are you getting these "analyticals" from? I think you are full of it.

Also, it is well known that both Fulop and Candice Osbourne have posted on this board before, under their own names.


Ask me if I care if you think I'm full of it. The answer, in case you're not smart enough to figure out, is 'No'.

Analytics are available on the internet. Just Google, 'JCLIST Analytics'. If you need help with anything else that's obvious, let me know.

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.


Are the downtown abatements your biggest concern?

As a resident of almost 10 years, this is my list:

1. My biggest issue is the RE taxes I pay relative to the education system residents get in return. From a business/economics perspective, it's a joke. Either cut my taxes or bring education up to levels that correspond throughout the tristate area. (I hate to be a cynic--but in other words, they have to cut taxes.)

2. The state of the police department. The police in JC roam around like a gang of entitled thugs with a select group getting outlandish compensation. Meanwhile, there is widespread sentiment from the folks living outside of the downtown area that they are literally being occupied by an outsider force. I must admit that I'm not in the "know", but from what I have read, Fullop seems to be sensitive to and addressing these issues at least to some degree. I also have to say that the downtown area is safe--I'm just not so sure the police should get credit for that.

3. The leash laws are virtually never enforced. That may be a small point in the grand scheme, but some of the best parks (with incredible views) are literally unusable by actual people because of this.

4. I have heard many many times that doing construction or opening a store or restaurant in JC is a living hell. The city needs a third party outsider organization to do interviews with JC's entrepreneurs and developers and observe the permit and approval process. And then make recommendations to the city counsel on how it can be streamlined and where formal investigations should be conducted to weed out direct and indirect fraud and bribery, and other criminal activities.

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Fulop is in the mold of another reformer, Schundler, although not an elected official when he became mayor, he often attacked abatements then gave the city away as mayor. Fulop like Schundler used the office to run for governor. Both used education as a theme while mayor.
Schundler privatized water and the rates increased, Fulop is taking the excess profits and transferring it to the budget instead of returning it to rate payers.
Both wanted a garbage transfer station in Greenville, although Schundler's contract was for more money per ton than Fulop's proposed contract.

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In 2012, some Republicans want Christie to enter the presidential race, he immediately said no. What do we hear from Fulop? Nothing. He is using using this to test the waters without taking the responsibility of the results. It is probably the reason Fulop so much time outside JC, he is building his base and bringing in the same people that McGreevey used when McGreevey ran for office. There is no hoodwinking on my part.


Yvonne, all things considered, do you think Fulop is an improvement over past JC mayors?

I realize that's not setting the bar high (in my view anyway). So a "yes" response wouldn't at all mean that you think he's doing a good job--clearly I can see that you don't think he is. But I am curious about how you think he is fairing compared to others who have done the job--I'd be surprised if you said he was even worse.

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I will give Fulop credit for one thing: He has neighborhood groups banning together to fight him on EMS and transfer station. I haven't seen this much activity in a long time. These groups are now on alert.

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I have a simple solution, why don't you just ask Fulop? After all, it is a website that bears his name and your name is your brand.


Someone spent money to buy a domain name and host the web site. Perhaps, someone paid for the web design. Why would anyone one do this unless they are part of the Fulop team? I still don't hear Fulop denying he is running for governor.


I liken this "why won't he deny" shtick to the birther logic around the Prez. Create fake controversy, seek engagement by questioning lack of denial, use lack of denial as somehow evidence of truth. Classic conspiracy theory logic.

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Not even taking into account that Fulop would have a much more informed and widespread polling/testing method and professional firm working on his analysis, this website is clearly shoestring budget and poorly done. It's kind of like when you get spam that has typos and misused words. You know it's not a serious attempt.
...and really who cares if Fulop does want to be Governor or Senator? I think he'd do a better than Christie or Booker. I don't blame him and I'd be proud to say that he was the Mayor of JC back in the day. I believe that he will be a political success and not go down in a blaze of drunken useless shame like the last Mayor.
I think that if he runs for another term as Mayor we should consider ourselves lucky to have such an effective and efficient action taker in office.
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Yvonne, you do yourself an injustice by making these statements. I honestly think that you are smarter than that.

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I have a simple solution, why don't you just ask Fulop? After all, it is a website that bears his name and your name is your brand.


Someone spent money to buy a domain name and host the web site. Perhaps, someone paid for the web design. Why would anyone one do this unless they are part of the Fulop team? I still don't hear Fulop denying he is running for governor.

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I have a simple solution, why don't you just ask Fulop? After all, it is a website that bears his name and your name is your brand.


Someone spent money to buy a domain name and host the web site. Perhaps, someone paid for the web design. Why would anyone one do this unless they are part of the Fulop team? I still don't hear Fulop denying he is running for governor.

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Yvonne, you do yourself an injustice by making these statements. I honestly think that you are smarter than that.

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I have a simple solution, why don't you just ask Fulop? After all, it is a website that bears his name and your name is your brand.

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At least Booker won in a predetermined rigged election against Jeff Bell.


Silly me, I thought Bell won a Republican primary. Are you paranoid righties now claiming that the Dems are selecting your candidates?

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Come on now guys. We all know Fulop is going full-Cory Booker. He's made it no secret. The only shame is people would actually elect him before he accomplished anything of substance ( a la Booker). The power of a strong PR machine is staggering, equally as staggering as how stupid some voters are to fall for such a farce.


At least Booker won in a predetermined rigged election against Jeff Bell. A guy who hasn't lived here for 30 years, wants a return to the gold standard, and is against women's birth control because it makes them too promiscuous.

I think Fulop would actually have a real election if running for Governor.

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Come on now guys. We all know Fulop is going full-Cory Booker. He's made it no secret. The only shame is people would actually elect him before he accomplished anything of substance ( a la Booker). The power of a strong PR machine is staggering, equally as staggering as how stupid some voters are to fall for such a farce.

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