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Don't worry, we can all get the vaccine the National Institute of Health Developed five years ago. Oh, wait, that's right. Conservatives cut funding to NIH, so they didn't have money for a vaccine.


Sorry, pal, you'd be disappointed to know that your leaders have been lying to you again.

Washington Post: The absurd claim that only Republicans are to blame for cuts to Ebola research, they award it "4 Pinocchios" and that from the decidedly left publication that needed years to figure out that "you can keep your insurance" was a lie.

Basically, they explain two things. First, the "cut" was proposed by Obama. Second, you can't seriously blame the problem on that small cut, because Clinton and Bush did greatly increase the overall budget over years and that "cut" was not all that big, more like a hiccup.

Other articles on the same subject. No math knowledge is required, you can just take a look at the nice pictures that illustrate the spending:
CATO: Centers for Disease Control Spending
Reason: Can You Blame Ebola Outbreak on "Republican Cuts" to Health Budgets?

Also, you'd be interested that people who complain that they didn't have enough money to study Ebola, somehow managed to find resources to study things like the sex drive of Japanese quail. You can google a lot more stories about what the NIH and the CDC do have money for.



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Sure the market will provide, possibly after an extinction event. I was just listening to Big History where he describes the old idea of Gaia Hypothesis, the idea of the earth as an organism with regulation and defense mechanisms. Virus as antibody to a 10,000 year old human infection....


Sorry, pal, you'd be happy to know that you are very uninformed.

Here is a NYPost How the feds block Ebola cures, with stories about some private firms that do tons of interesting things that could have helped. Alas...





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The NY Daily News is reporting that the doctor took the A, 1 and L subway lines Wednesday night.

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Don't worry, we can all get the vaccine the National Institute of Health Developed five years ago. Oh, wait, that's right. Conservatives cut funding to NIH, so they didn't have money for a vaccine.


Nice one. In the news: that now that there's Ebola hysteria Big Pharma is seeing dollar signs in a vaccine. Couldn't care less before. A finer argument for "big government", and against "the market will always provide" would be hard to find.

Sure the market will provide, possibly after an extinction event. I was just listening to Big History where he describes the old idea of Gaia Hypothesis, the idea of the earth as an organism with regulation and defense mechanisms. Virus as antibody to a 10,000 year old human infection....

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Another stellar Obama move-let's put a well known Democrat lobbyist/shill/mouthpiece with zero experience in public health issues in charge of the response to a virus that kills 75% of those who get infected. Oh, he's great as a doctor, though-a spin doctor weeks ahead of the mid term elections-so it's a great pick!

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This thread is a laff riot.
Biggest lol was Morone thinking Obama should appoint a really big doctor to oversee all this.
Is there anything the JClist white pride crew won't pin on a black man?
Reality check, Bozos. There are a mere 8 confirmed cases in the US.

why is there no surgeon general spearheading this?

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He was following the new CDC/Obama protocol, wasn't he? Fly in from the swamps of Ebola, go about your life, and check your temps and report in if/when you get a spike. This is exactly proof that we need to lock down travelers from those countries, as the 'new' CDC guidelines issued this week can't/didn't address Ebola in this case. And, since he's a Dr working in this field who should know how to avoid exposure himself, we can now be scared that perhaps it's easier to become infected than our government 'experts' say it is.
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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/


I gotta say, I generally share your sentiment about Doctors without Borders but have you read about what this doctor did? He started feeling off on Tuesday, but decided to go bowling, rode the subway, and took Uber cabs on Wednesday. A doctor is this fucking stupid?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/health/ ... ble-ebola-case/index.html

If you want to spread ebola in our area, that's exactly how to do it. It can live on surfaces for days if not weeks. Seems to me he switched from doing God's work to the Devil's work.


Don't worry, we can all get the vaccine the National Institute of Health Developed five years ago. Oh, wait, that's right. Conservatives cut funding to NIH, so they didn't have money for a vaccine.

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He was following the new CDC/Obama protocol, wasn't he? Fly in from the swamps of Ebola, go about your life, and check your temps and report in if/when you get a spike. This is exactly proof that we need to lock down travelers from those countries, as the 'new' CDC guidelines issued this week can't/didn't address Ebola in this case. And, since he's a Dr working in this field who should know how to avoid exposure himself, we can now be scared that perhaps it's easier to become infected than our government 'experts' say it is.
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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/


I gotta say, I generally share your sentiment about Doctors without Borders but have you read about what this doctor did? He started feeling off on Tuesday, but decided to go bowling, rode the subway, and took Uber cabs on Wednesday. A doctor is this fucking stupid?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/health/ ... ble-ebola-case/index.html

If you want to spread ebola in our area, that's exactly how to do it. It can live on surfaces for days if not weeks. Seems to me he switched from doing God's work to the Devil's work.

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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/


I gotta say, I generally share your sentiment about Doctors without Borders but have you read about what this doctor did? He started feeling off on Tuesday, but decided to go bowling, rode the subway, and took Uber cabs on Wednesday. A doctor is this fucking stupid?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/health/ ... ble-ebola-case/index.html

If you want to spread ebola in our area, that's exactly how to do it. It can live on surfaces for days if not weeks. Seems to me he switched from doing God's work to the Devil's work.

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Sure. You can thank god for everything - including Ebola. Cheers to you, too.

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M?decins Sans Fronti?res (MSF) is an international, independent, medical humanitarian organisation that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural disasters and exclusion from healthcare. MSF offers assistance to people based on need, irrespective of race, religion, gender or political affiliation.

Our actions are guided by medical ethics and the principles of neutrality and impartiality.

A worldwide movement


Type 'God' into the search box of MSF and you'll get countless hits where the recipients of their work thank God for the support they've received. Truly God's work in the eyes of those whose lives have been saved.


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M?decins Sans Fronti?res (MSF) is an international, independent, medical humanitarian organisation that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural disasters and exclusion from healthcare. MSF offers assistance to people based on need, irrespective of race, religion, gender or political affiliation.

Our actions are guided by medical ethics and the principles of neutrality and impartiality.

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Type 'God' into the search box of MSF and you'll get countless hits where the recipients of their work thank God for the support they've received. Truly God's work in the eyes of those whose lives have been saved.


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I hope the experts on JCList can solve this.

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M?decins Sans Fronti?res (MSF) is an international, independent, medical humanitarian organisation that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural disasters and exclusion from healthcare. MSF offers assistance to people based on need, irrespective of race, religion, gender or political affiliation.

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This dude was in contact with Ebola patients, why wasn't he quarantined for 21 days before he could travel to the US?!

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And next will be his fianc?e-he just returned from Africa, so you figure they got 'busy' upon his return. And he took a Uber car to go bowling, they're checking his Metro Card, he lived in an apartment building . . . way to go, Obama!


This is really unfucking believable. 100% preventable but Obama is too cowardly to institute a travel ban like he should. If anyone in our area gets infected as a result, this blood is on Obama's hands.

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No, you put God into the conversation - I don't think MSF is a faith based organization.

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A 'Doctor's without Borders' hater? Now I've seen everything.

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"God's work?" maybe "God" shouldn't have allowed Ebola to manifest at all.


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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/

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A Harlem doctor went bowling in Brooklyn before he was hospitalized for possible Ebola.

The shocking revelation that Dr. Craig Spencer was roaming around town ? after sources said he first told authorities he self-quarantined himself ? emerged after the medic was hauled off Thursday to Bellevue Hospital in a protective suit with symptoms of the deadly disease.

Spencer, 33, who recently returned from the disease-wracked West African county of Guinea, was suffering from nausea and had a 103-degree fever, sources said.

Preliminary results of tests that would determine whether Spencer has the city?s first confirmed case of Ebola were expected overnight, the city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene said in a statement.

Mayor de Blasio tried to reassure New Yorkers.

?It is our understanding very few people were in direct contact with him,? the mayor said. ?Every protocol has been followed. We're hoping for a good outcome for this individual.?

Doctors Without Borders, with whom Spencer was working in Guinea, said in a statement their doctor ?notified our office this morning to report having developed a fever.?

Dr. Craig Spencer was reportedly suffering from nausea and a high fever before being rushed to Bellevue Hospital. Above, he dons protective robes in Belgium, a connector hub between the U.S. and West Africa.

Dr. Craig Spencer was reportedly suffering from nausea and a high fever before being rushed to Bellevue Hospital. Above, he dons protective robes in Belgium, a connector hub between the U.S. and West Africa.

And New York-York Presbyterian Hospital Columbia, where Spencer is on staff, insisted ?he has not been to work at our hospital and has not seen any patients at our hospital since his return from overseas.?

But Spencer hit the lanes in Williamsburg on Wednesday and he used Uber taxis to get around, sources said.

He was at The Gutter on N. 14th St. and the Brooklyn Bowl on Wythe Ave. on Wednesday, they said.


When a reporter went by The Gutter on Thursday, it was closed and a promoter said the bar area, where a concert was supposed to be held wasn't opening due to "unforeseen circumstances."

Brooklyn Bowl, on its Facebook page, said they have not been contacted by authorities.

"We are aware of the reports that an individual who may possibly be infected with Ebola attended an event in Williamsburg last night,? it read.

NY DAILY NEWS - MORE

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And next will be his fianc?e-he just returned from Africa, so you figure they got 'busy' upon his return. And he took a Uber car to go bowling, they're checking his Metro Card, he lived in an apartment building . . . way to go, Obama!

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Unfortunately, the doctor has tested positive for Ebola.

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A 'Doctor's without Borders' hater? Now I've seen everything.

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"God's work?" maybe "God" shouldn't have allowed Ebola to manifest at all.


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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/

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"God's work?" maybe "God" shouldn't have allowed Ebola to manifest at all.


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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/

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Ebola in NY might wake some people up. Here's to hoping the good doctor, who was doing God's work, will survive.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/

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Monroe, you so stoopit. Ebola is whitey's plot to make up for what crack didn't accomplish. Duh!

(Psst, to the sensitive types...that's a joke!)


I see you are now pre-emptively labelling your inanity a joke after I owned you into pretending your similar comments on the Newark Ave building thread were in jest.


If that paltry asinine rebuttal you had back then makes you happy, run with it. My comments are a direct reflection of your stupidity in these discussions (I'm rubber, your glue, blah blah blah).

If you're too stupid to see and recognize sarcasm, you really should just go play in traffic now, Mr. Kill Whitey.

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Monroe, you so stoopit. Ebola is whitey's plot to make up for what crack didn't accomplish. Duh!

(Psst, to the sensitive types...that's a joke!)


I see you are now pre-emptively labelling your inanity a joke after I owned you into pretending your similar comments on the Newark Ave building thread were in jest.

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Nah, since ebola doesn't discriminate it should properly be set up in the most diverse city in NJ!

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Maybe Christie should close New Jersey's borders.


I'd rather see NJ open a dedicated infectious diseases unit away from densely populated areas. How about a quarantine center in Milburn or Short Hills?

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At no point was the bridge closed, and besides, after millions of taxpayer money wasted by Whizzy and Whiney, there is no proof but the truth he didn't know anything about the couple of orange cones anyway.

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I think he does, or his close buddies at PA can. They shut a bridge for him.
It doesn't matter anyway, there's no way this guy has Ebola. Nobody is at risk, but people are making money from it, just like post 9-11 security, the prison industry and Y2k. They distract you with phantom enemies and rob your pockets.

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He doesn't have the ability to close down international airports, otherwise he'd be smart to do so for people who have visited the western Africa countries afflicted with Ebola.


Monroe, you so stoopit. Ebola is whitey's plot to make up for what crack didn't accomplish. Duh!

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I think he does, or his close buddies at PA can. They shut a bridge for him.
It doesn't matter anyway, there's no way this guy has Ebola. Nobody is at risk, but people are making money from it, just like post 9-11 security, the prison industry and Y2k. They distract you with phantom enemies and rob your pockets.

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He doesn't have the ability to close down international airports, otherwise he'd be smart to do so for people who have visited the western Africa countries afflicted with Ebola.

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Maybe Christie should close New Jersey's borders.

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