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Re: Shooting on Newark Ave - Miss Saigon parking lot?
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there is no competition that BL or greenville would come close to beating dtjc in...except in homicides.

Greenville and BL own the dangerous activity department.


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Jordan's has a fine line to walk between not admitting anyone who might cause a problem, and not admitting anyone.

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They kick people out of Zeppelin and Surf City early lest someone who buys a condo next to a bar hear noise, so I don't understand why they can't do the same for gunshots and violence.

It's my experience that cops like easier targets. Drunk 20 somethings are easier than people being violent.

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They kick people out of Zeppelin and Surf City early lest someone who buys a condo next to a bar hear noise, so I don't understand why they can't do the same for gunshots and violence.

It's my experience that cops like easier targets. Drunk 20 somethings are easier than people being violent.

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Are you crazy? 3 incidents in DTJC is NOT the same as the 6 or so homicides in BL and Greenville.



wait...there's a competition?


no competition. there is no competition that BL or greenville would come close to beating dtjc in...except in homicides.

my issue is with the statement:

So while Fulop has locked up 111 people in JC, Downtown is witnessing more dangerous activity.

3 bar incidents is not dangerous activity. Greenville and BL own the dangerous activity department.



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We have the same problems with a bar here in BeLa on the corner of Communipaw and Halladay. Every night that they are open the crowd is out on the street and sidewalk drinking, yelling, peeing and fighting. Cars park illegally along the whole block (there is no parking allowed on that side of the block because the fire engines need that space to turn)

How many times do cops have to be called to scenes like this before the bar owners can be forced to shut down??

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Are you crazy? 3 incidents in DTJC is NOT the same as the 6 or so homicides in BL and Greenville.



wait...there's a competition?

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I'm new to this particular block. I use to live closer to Grove, so I wasn't familiar with Jordan's Lounge. Now I realize the shots were probably attributable to the lounge crowd after it closed.

On Wednesday night (1:20-1:45am) there was lots of loud noise and dancing in the parking lot outside of the lounge. I was really surprised that Jersey City police didn't stop it immediately. I wouldn't think that loiter outside of a bar like that would be allowed at the Beer Garden or on Grove Street.

Anyway, I called the cops that night and they did arrive to clear the scene.

Anyone in the area that would like to work with me to reduce this disturbance, please get in touch. I've already discussed working with my neighbor to at least petition for a patrol at closing each night. Seems like a logical solution.


Are you crazy? 3 incidents in DTJC is NOT the same as the 6 or so homicides in BL and Greenville.

Which leads me to say it is safer being homeless in DTJC than owning property in greenville or BL

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Jordan's lounge has the most restrictive entry requirements of any bar downtown; IIRC the minimum age is 25 or 27 or something like that. It's not enough. Maybe the minimum age should be 50.

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IF they are doing something illegal, they deserve to be shut down. You can't shut down someone because they are a nuisance to you.

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More police activity last night near Jordan's Lounge.

At 3am, we witnessed 2 ambulances, 1 police car.
The ambulance took someone away on a stretcher (not in a hurry), so either they were ok or completely not. The crowd was again very large and disturbing the peace.

This is the 3rd incident on this block since July 27. So while Fulop has locked up 111 people in JC, Downtown is witnessing more dangerous activity.

I will be looking into the process for petitioning to shutdown Jordan's Lounge. Please stay tuned for details soon.

Anyone with experience with JC City Hall, appreciate your support.

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IF they are doing something illegal, they deserve to be shut down. You can't shut down someone because they are a nuisance to you.

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More police activity last night near Jordan's Lounge.

At 3am, we witnessed 2 ambulances, 1 police car.
The ambulance took someone away on a stretcher (not in a hurry), so either they were ok or completely not. The crowd was again very large and disturbing the peace.

This is the 3rd incident on this block since July 27. So while Fulop has locked up 111 people in JC, Downtown is witnessing more dangerous activity.

I will be looking into the process for petitioning to shutdown Jordan's Lounge. Please stay tuned for details soon.

Anyone with experience with JC City Hall, appreciate your support.

Thanks
Concerned Downtown JC Family

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More police activity last night near Jordan's Lounge.

At 3am, we witnessed 2 ambulances, 1 police car.
The ambulance took someone away on a stretcher (not in a hurry), so either they were ok or completely not. The crowd was again very large and disturbing the peace.

This is the 3rd incident on this block since July 27. So while Fulop has locked up 111 people in JC, Downtown is witnessing more dangerous activity.

I will be looking into the process for petitioning to shutdown Jordan's Lounge. Please stay tuned for details soon.

Anyone with experience with JC City Hall, appreciate your support.

Thanks
Concerned Downtown JC Family

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Re: Shooting on Newark Ave - Miss Saigon parking lot?
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Difference is most of the patrons are from out of town. Remember the old Sandbar?

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As far as I know, there is no bar downtown that creates as much violence and necessitates as much police activity as Jordan's lounge. There must be something different about it.

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As far as I know, there is no bar downtown that creates as much violence and necessitates as much police activity as Jordan's lounge. There must be something different about it.

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I'm new to this particular block. I use to live closer to Grove, so I wasn't familiar with Jordan's Lounge. Now I realize the shots were probably attributable to the lounge crowd after it closed.

On Wednesday night (1:20-1:45am) there was lots of loud noise and dancing in the parking lot outside of the lounge. I was really surprised that Jersey City police didn't stop it immediately. I wouldn't think that loiter outside of a bar like that would be allowed at the Beer Garden or on Grove Street.

Anyway, I called the cops that night and they did arrive to clear the scene.

Anyone in the area that would like to work with me to reduce this disturbance, please get in touch. I've already discussed working with my neighbor to at least petition for a patrol at closing each night. Seems like a logical solution.


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where's crazy Dave (the previous gun store owner in that area) when you need him?


Hahaha! I rented my first apt from Dave. Good times.

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maybe people should stop renting out places to young reckless teens for private parties in the d/t area. what kind of citizen would throw a party and then fight, stab, kill, and steal. .you cant even walk past some places at night without being bothered by these young men......so confused.... who could be doing this?????? what kind of parent raises this type of person??? oh my for the life of me I cant figure it out................. unreal...........surely it cant be our upstanding citizens.....let all just keep pretending that we don't know anything.... what the hell it worked for healy for 8 years

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where's crazy Dave (the previous gun store owner in that area) when you need him?

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An investigative journalist or resident could do the same by placing their own car in a position to capture footage without being there. The footage could be sold to the media and/or have a great footage for a great news report!

A cheap $50 investment could help the community reclaim their neighborhood or have an excellent evidence for a journalist - The camera (link below) can be placed in the back or side window of a car to capture behavior that the community wants changed or addressed by police.

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The police need to place a hidden camera inside an unmarked car parked in front of Jordans (and other problem bars) and just monitor it closing times (note it was 2:45 am) -- and capture what all goes on every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night.

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Gunman in Jersey City shoots two rounds into the air, reports say

By Rafal Rogoza / The Jersey Journal
on July 27, 2013 at 5:12 PM,
updated July 27, 2013 at 5:20 PM

A gunman opened fired this morning in Jersey City and shot two rounds into the air before fleeing from the scene, police say.

Police responded to an area bar on Newark Avenue around 2:45 a.m. to reports of shots being fired. Witnesses told police they heard two shots near the intersection of 1st and Cole Streets, police reports say.

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... rts_say.html#incart_river

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I was walking by on Newark and Coles and i believe it was over by Jordan's Lounge. Something definitely happened and it sounded like gunshots to me. I got out of there before I saw any cops roll up but I did hear sirens.

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My neighbor and I both heard shots late last night July 27th outside of the Miss Saigon Bar/Restaurant on Newark Ave.

Did anyone else hear it? Did the police show up?

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